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Emma Watson Leaked Photo Threat Was a Plot To Attack 4chan
ideonexus writes: After Emma Watson gave a speech on the need for feminism (video) to the United Nations, 4chan users threatened to release nude photos of the Harry Potter star in retaliation, setting up the emmayouarenext.com website with a countdown clock. Now it has been revealed that the site was an elaborate hoax intended publicize a movement to shut down 4chan.
Means that she probably did take some nudies at some point.
She basically claimed to the UN that there no countries in the world where women had equal opportunities (not OUTCOMES, OPPORTUNITIES). She must have missed pretty much the whole western world where the vast majority of women nearly always get equal or preferential treatment.
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"Join us as we shutdown 4chan and prevent more pictures from being leaked."
Yeah, that is definitely going to prevent anyone from posting any more photos.
I agree- we should shut down 4-Chan. And all of the other sites posting naked pictures of women without their consent. And all of the sites demeaning women or ethnic minorities. And the forums providing a conduit for homophobia and racist slurs and.......guys......anyone still there?
or it didn't happen.
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It was a fake plot to fake plot to shutdown 4chan, perpetrated by 4chan. Get your facts straight.
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Ray Rice
The company that wants 4chan shut down also doesn't seem to exist; it looks like this was a publicity stunt by a social media agency.
http://www.theguardian.com/fil...
No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
They are all in a single place and mostly keeping to themselves. Do you really want that kind of people roaming around without a place made to accommodate their behavior?
It's like destroying a prison to stop crime.
. By displaying the results front and center and tweeting about emmayouarenext.com's viral success, the campaign's organizers are perhaps more focused on promoting their own brand and services than issues of privacy and gender equality.
Forget the brand, forget the event, and forget this firm ever existed. We're talking about a fairly controversial site but what needs to be respected is the tenacity and seemingly endless realm of their users. after a cat was abused, they tracked down a fourteen year olds full name and address in under 24 hours. They tracked down a bomb threat in 2007 to a student in a High School in Pflugerville, Texas in under 6 hours and have a laundry list of relatively high profile internet attacks. Both Verizon and AT&T have banned the site at some time during its existence. Speaking as someone who works in hosting, What this ad agency fails to realize is once you become a target of 4chan we questionlessly invoke our right to terminate your service at any time. Its either a chargeback at worst on our credit card processing or we watch everything from signup to shared/vps hosting go up in flames.
Good people go to bed earlier.
1) Declare yourself a feminist hero
2) Create some fake posts or a fake website attacking yourself with vile and threatening language (the worse the better)
3) Run to the liberal press with copies of these "attacks" and declare yourself oppressed,
4) Demand public sympathy and support
5) Call any critics or skeptics misogynists
4) Goto 1
SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
Maybe it was an elaborate hoax to publicize 4chan by publicizing an elaborate hoax to attack 4cahn.
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I bet she even showers naked...
"4chan holds Emma in high esteem, and while most of us would fap like crazy to real nudes, it's not us hacking the cloud."
Couldn't happen to a nicer site.
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4chan, emma? who cares.
Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
In order to try to convince everyone that there exists a threat to women on the net they create a threat to women on the net? All they have shown is that feminists are a greater threat to women.
Katie Collins's article was delusional and offensive. Using "men's rights" as a euphemism for misogyny was pure sexism on her part. Her repeated use of the word "shame" also indicates that it is her who wants women to feel shame about their form. There are many reasons why it is wrong to take a person's computer files. Shame over one's body or archaic attitudes about sexuality is unrelated.
I said it before and I'll say it again, it's just trolls trolling trolls.
That's kind of like planting evidence of tax evasion on a convicted murderer.
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Those users move on, find another site, and rise up again. Or, they just go on a spree with no central site at all.
Did shutting down P2P sites stop torrents? Shutting down 4chan as a site won't help, we need to address the underlying social issues.
Why do men make x amount more than women per hour at the same kinds of jobs? Oh... that's right... because when a big ocean liner runs into a glacier it's "women and children first!" Women want equality, but they don't want the same kind of laborious jobs that men are relegated to. Women want equality, but they don't want to spend the same amount on taxes. Women want equality, but they still want free drinks at a bar. Women don't know what equality is.
Once 4chan is shut down, there will be no way for leaked photos to be made available on the Internet.
What the world really needs to realize is that David Goldman (AsiaTimes' Spengler)'s Law of Gender Parity, not feminism, accurately describes intersex relations. Paraphrasing: in each country, in all eras, the men and women deserve each other. Women get the men their behavior and attitudes demand; men get the same from women, at a societal level.
She did the same thing to take heat off her due to "Gamergate". When caught with your pants down, blame 4chan!
Its like the pedo stories they used to do on tv news shows. Lure offenders to a home and take pictures of their creepy activities and show them to the public. The only thing they didnt do was show who the creepy offenders are. Why 75% of slashdotters want to debate feminism and womens rights in the workplace only shows just how uncomfortable people are discussing this issue. The 25% who are discussing the actual article are apparently the creeps she/they are trying to expose (or at least awaken their moral compass)
From TFA:
Instead visitors to emmayouarenext.com were pointed to a marketing company's homepage, its black background bearing a crossed-out version of 4chan's four-leaf clover logo, and the hashtag #shutdown4chan written in large white letters. The site was a hoax, designed to draw as many eyes as possible not to actual pictures of Watson but to an apparent campaign set up to attack 4chan.
Wow! IANAL, but I'd think that anyone intentionally trying to shut down another business could be guilty of restraint of trade, various competition law violations like the Sherman Antitrust law.
I guess when they get shut down and assets liquidated to cover fines, legal costs and damage awards, moot is going to get some new server hardware to host more image boards.
Have gnu, will travel.
And no, I didn't read the article.
Especially if you are white. I would know, I'm one of them and I love it. Don't be surprised if someone wants a bit of your pie. It's not like you worked that hard to get it.
why is some teen actor giving speeches at the UN representing women, is the little girl that played a witch really the best representation they can come up wit?
Hey lady celebs stop helping you just strip causes of credibility and make it hard to see it as anything other than an idea your publicist came up with.
Why do feminist hate women so much?
Seriously?
Do they think that every women wants to be away form their children all day and slave for same scum bag corporation?
Do they think that every women wants to look like a bloke, have a short haircut and grow a few thick hair moustache?
Why do feminist hate femininity so much?
What is the real agenda of feminists? Are they as fake as "protect the child" racket, that pumps hundreds of millions out of taxpayer pockets while spreading F.U.D and resolving nothing?
The 4chan crowd ain't known for its ability to take stuff like that lightly. If I was that marketing company, I'd make sure my servers are hardened against any kind of onslaught.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Yeah, the society it's not equal because we actually have gender discrimination but it's actually favoring woman and feminists are all alright with it. Is this the fair system they preach about?
How can we support quotas that make shitty professionals get in front of more qualified ones, just because they are woman and we need to fill quotas? Where is the fairness in this?
I don't see woman asking for conscription quotas when a 1st world country that doesn't make gender discrimination goes to war. I don't see them to get the same percentage of incarcerated people. You may say it's ridiculous that we expect the same number of woman and men to be incarcerated since that depends on their attitude and they don't commit so many crimes. But why exactly isn't it ridiculous to expect the same number of woman and men to have top administration jobs? Seriously, why do we accept a difference in attitude for incarceration, but not for leadership or any other are where we start to have more and more quotas demands?
What's more ridiculous it's that men actually support them, or at least shut up about the fact, since the social and media pressure is so high for them to support this completely unfair system that they can't actually state their mind.
Nobody it's capable of stating the simple truth that most woman simply don't give so much to their job as men do. Sure, it's true, they get pregnant and that takes an heavy toll on them physically and psychologically some times. But that's the thing. They are not equal, and they claim benefits (even better) for them when they are pregnant... but what's the reverse of the medal? Shouldn't there be one? We are only allowed to make exceptions for woman when that favors them even if unfairly?
Funny thing is that Slashdot it's all about technology. But we don't even see the obvious. Why are there so much more project in new technologies, in new IT services, in start ups for new ideas and application in this area made by men than by woman? All you need is some hard work, a computer and knowledge. So what, are we going yet again to blame society in some way for this and forget the obvious, that perhaps it's just because they don't invest as much time as men in this?
And nobody is seeing all these harassment cases being used as a weapon? I mean, they don't even need proof, they have some problem at work, here it comes an harassment suit, even if totally made up and the social pressure is so high that even if the guy it's innocent, there the woman get's what she wants. Just think about what happened to Strauss Kahn (not that the guy wasn't an idiot), but still there weren't' profs about anything, but everyone in the media automatically sided with the girl and the guy had to ask for his resignation even without a trial.
shutdown 4chan and leaked photos no longer have a place to live on the internet? news flash little miss Granger celeb nudes leaked used to round the world via dial up modem on BBS', when a hot slut is dumb enough to let her nudies get out, they will find a way.
That she didn't call their bluff...
Means that she probably did take some nudies at some point.
She is not obliged to call anyone's bluff.
Not everyone has a mind as adolescent as the geek who mods up craptastic sexist comments like yours as "Interesting."
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if i had mod points i'd untroll you but i'm out this though an unpopular opinion is a sad truth most people can't see because they're blinded with social acceptability
Bill Burr explains it well... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
I see how this obviously has outraged many into the typical argument about men vs women in the workplace. We all agree that women are paid less, all studies show it. The reasons why are only assumptions, as each case is different. No point in getting upset over this, just do what you can to make it a non fact in all real-world scenarios that you can, and that's all we can do.
Now the real point of me commenting: Are there nude photos of this beautiful woman, or not? And if so, where are they?
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Not if she's working the same hours and has the same experience, she's not. Men get paid more because they work more.
Isn't Emma Watson already the most photoshopped nude celeb on the Internet already??
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At first I'm thinking that's a pretty insightful way to get attention. The people who set this up must be pretty savvy when it comes to internet issues. Then I think they must be naive idiots for thinking that if they successfully shut down 4chan it would accomplish anything. All the activities done there would simply show up somewhere else.
Great advertising for a cause that will be utterly ineffective if successful.
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The world is burning - ISIL, Ebola, regional strife like that at Ukraine, etc. etc. And UN now is mostly SJW feminist projecting overtly on womyn issues.
Great going UN. World will be soon go to peaces.
It's amazing to me how badly everyone hates the idea of government regulation. Don't get me wrong, it's important to restrict what we allow government to do. But it CAN be a force for good. Why everyone balks at the idea right from the start and refuses to even CONSIDER a government solution to any problem is beyond me. This (the gender equality issue) CAN be solved by government, at least to a greater degree than any private entity can. And it can be solved the same way as any other problem: with money. 1) Restrict federal grants to AS/BS/sciences degrees instead of arts degrees, or at least skew them 70:30 in favor of sciences majors. Forbid grant recipients from changing their majors once grant money is accepted. America doesn't need more writers, artists, and poets. We need more engineers. There is way more than ample precedent for government steering people's decisions with money. 2) Give women preference for these grants just like minorities already do. Why this isn't already the case, I cannot fathom. The sad fact is that if a low-income family has access to a single grant, and they have both a son and a daughter, they're almost always going to choose their son to get the grant, because they're playing the numbers, and the numbers say the son will make more money. You HAVE to solve this problem at the root. Give them a good reason to pick the daughter by making her more likely to receive the grant. 3) Mandate the separation of "trade schools" and "community colleges." This was a mistake on day one and it remains one. AC Repair Men and Research Lab Technicians should not be trained in the same building. Women often simply don't want to spend 4 years being hit on by gruff idiots going to school to learn how to rebuild a car engine. And they shouldn't have to. While we're at it, the guy trying to rebuild car engines shouldn't be forced to learn Biology 101 in order to get a certificate in car repair, so this benefits everyone. 4) Enact strict penalties for police officers for improperly handling rape accusations, and equally enforce existing laws for making false accusations. There are already laws against making false accusations of any criminal offense, rape included. These should be prosecuted to thew fullest extent of the law, and yes, lairs should go to jail. On the other hand, there is no equivalent law or regulation to counter this. Genuine rape victims have the deck stacked against them. If a cop tries to convince them not to file charges, they have no recourse against that cop. Nor do they have any recourse against their aggressor if the cop outright refuses. This is wrong. With the alarming rise in campus rape in the past 10-15 years, this problem is only getting worse, and I can imagine a woman might very well choose not to attend college for safety reasons alone. Handling this is a simple matter of enacting guidelines - which the president or attorney general can do themselves without congress - that create penalties against any officer of the law if they pressure a rape victim not to press charges. These are a few simple, specific solutions that can tackle a large part of the problem. This could be done by a dozen men in Washington in a single day. Why it hasn't been done is unfathomable.
So many fedoras in this thread. Much wow.
First they attack the gamers with the whole gamergate thing. All of which was shown to be a scam by political elements using every dirty trick they could think of to get power... literally sleeping with people to gain influence... extortion... bribery... baiting people to attack them and then playing the victim.
Second, they go after 4chan which while a wretched hive of scum and villainy is hardly worth a national campaign.
I mean seriously... wtf? Who the fuck are these people are do they really want to the nerd culture to respond in kind? Because... if they want to be stalked... we have stalkers... we have people that can trace all their silly little stories back to the roots... keep spreadsheets on all their activities... and cross reference all claims. Do they really want to start a fight with millions of aspi under employed men? It just seems like pissing on a bee hive.
I've decided to stop wasting my time responding to AC trolls/sockpuppets... so if you want a response from me... login.
Instead of impersonating 4chan, why not impersonate an imposter? It would be a lot easier...
Trying to ruin 4chan's rep. Hilarious. They must be new to this internet thing.
Years ago, british tabloids documented that Emma "Hermione" Watson is a serious shop-a-holic. Therefore I think there must exist hours, if not days worth of nude Emma Watson videos, straight from CCTV of high street fashion shop wardrobe cubicles. (Whoever thinks those anti-theft videos are deleted after 72hrs, as required by law, is fooling himself.)
On the other hand, why would straight man look at the nude imagery of an arrogant lesbian? Remember that feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice. Pixy cuts think womenkind can be sustained without the man-weapon. Artificial insemenation maybe or potteresque magic?
She's gorgeous, talented, AND intelligent; the only thing I find questionable about this, is her (re)defining the term "feminism". If it's all about equality, shouldn't it be called "Equality"? It sounds awfully gender-centric to just one of the two. Imagine if there were a movement called "Masculinism".
Other than that, carry on, Miss Watson.
Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
...believed 4chan when it came to GamerGate. When it came to the massively unfair, unethical, immoral, and repugnant "Reporting" practices of the games industry - but you were so quick to white-knight and presume that women can do no evil. Here we see what is likely the SAME group of people - the extreme leftists and "feminists" who are not egalitarian - who are willing to burn books and hubs of information and opinion - all in the name of equality, and you supported them. For all of you who disagreed with GamerGate because you dismissed the evidence, I hope you feel like you've been slapped. Your perspectives, your ethics that you so "valiantly" defended, and your presumptions about 4chan being nothing but a cesspool were entirely wrong - for all of your keyboard-warrior prowess and mod points. Your support led to the censorship of 4chan regarding the gamergate issue on ALL boards - new moderators that worked (for free) for m00t after he spoke with Anita Sarkeesian were perma-banning people (myself included) who posted in or about GamerGate on grounds of "child pornography" because that's one of the most offensive and pungent ways to perma-ban somebody on the website. All of this, the majority of the Slashdot wise-men supported. I'm sickened.
As a single dad, I've got to say that's by primary caregiver has these problems. It's not sexism, necessarily, except in the sense that women are still the most common primary caregivers.
I can't believe you got a "+3 insightful" for this mess of grammatically questionable nonsense. Are you seriously claiming that things would only be fair if equal percentages of men and women were in jail? Really? That's something you want to base your argument on?
Making a claim that "most woman simply don't give so much to their job as men do" is just silly. Do you have a wide ranging empirical study to support this view, or are you just making up a claim to justify your viewpoint? The fact that you see pregnancy as some sort of "benefit" for female workers is stupid. Wouldn't the logical thing be to support equal family leave policies so both men and women could have sufficient time off for major family moments?
You are likely taking a narrow view of "opportunities".
A couple simple examples:
Girls can take a carpentry class in High School, but odds are pretty good that their guidance councilor won't suggest it, and may discourage it.
A Girl can play sports... so long as she plays on a girl's team. When's the last time you heard about a High School or University's champion Girl's Football team.
A Girl can major in Computer Science, if she doesn't mid hearing "OMG a Girl Who can code will you go out with me?" ate least once per semester.
Basicly, equality of opportunity isn't satisfied by just there existing the possibility of doing the same thing. Rather the level of encouragement needs to also be comparable, and it really isn't in a lot of out society.
Hundreds of comments questioning whether women are still second class citizens* and nobody comments on the apparent fact that SocialVEVO trolled the entire internet, terrorising both Emma Watson and threatening hundreds of thousands of other women involved in activism are still trolling us, having duped everyone from the BBC to /. a second time.
*They are, it's bloody obvious and you're an ignorant douche if you say otherwise.
And I have to wonder if it wasn't ultimately part of the #HeForShe campaign.
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I used to work as a dev manager at a software company a few years ago. A young Asian woman was hired as a developer, fresh out of school. She did not seem to have any idea of the dress norms in the US and would come to work dressed in cocktail dresses and high heels. During the first 3 months, she reported two of our long-time developers for sexual harassment. Top management was so sensitive to the issue that they fired the guys pretty much immediately. This despite the fact that there had been no complaints about them from anybody till then, and the one other woman in the group claimed that they had never said or done anything that was even remotely questionable in her presence.
The woman in question resigned about 6 months after she had been hired; she had an offer at another company for a 50% bump in salary which we could not match.
We don't know whether the two guys really did anything bad or whether she was over-sensitive. But look at the cost to the company; over the period of 6 months, she contributed nothing to the company (was mostly ramping up) and was at least indirectly responsible for us losing two valuable developers who had a blemish-less record until then.
I don't get why men are fighting so hard against these sorts of things. The world is messed up beyond belief and we are a huge part of it. I'm disgusted by my own sex and its unwillingness to give an eff about 50% of the population. Preferential treatment? You must be kidding.
Worldwide, who abuses women the most... men
Who abuses children the most... men
Who abuses men the most... other men.
What is the gender of the majority of murderers and serial killers... men.
Be a part of the solution. Stand up to your buddies when they are being terrible human beings. What's the worst that can happen.. lose a friend? If they would dump you for calling them on their BS then they are probably not good people in the first place.
I don't see woman asking for conscription quotas when a 1st world country that doesn't make gender discrimination goes to war.
Actually, here in Norway last year we became the first country in Europe and NATO to introduce gender-neutral conscription. It was quite amusing to see how first those opposing it was accused of feminism by grabbing all the perks but not doing the same duties of being a citizen. Then as the public opinion turned those in favor were accused of feminism by disregarding the differences between the sexes and weakening our military through physically less able women, like they were only there to fill a gender equality quota. If you didn't want military service you were a feminist, if you wanted military service you were a feminist. Go figure.
I think we made the right choice though, whether you're male or female if you're young and fit you're certainly "good enough" for military service. We're not training people for the elite specials division here, most of them will go into our version of the National Guard and have one or two refresher sessions a year, just enough to remind people what end to shoot the bad guys with. And there's plenty jobs in a modern military that takes more brains than brawn. Yes, I know carrying equipment and supplies still matters but the type of service should go by physical requirements, there'll be something for everyone.
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Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm pretty sure TMZ or one of those other tabloid rags released a pantiless upskirt shot of her years ago. So what's the big deal about releasing her nudes anyway? Next they'll be threatening to release Kim Kardashian's nudes... oh noes, what will we do?
Nice platoon of straw... people you've deployed there.
Who "made up these stories"? Some anonymous 'viral marketing' wanker. Had nothing to do with feminism, s/he is just desperate for attention.
Who said anything about quotas? Certainly not Emma Watson. As for conscription - there are several countries that apply it to both sexes, including most of those (that have it) that could be called first-world, democratic countries.
If you read Watson's speech to the UN, she's in favour of equality. She thinks men and women should have the same rights and obligations to access and provide for their children. She thinks men should be able to take time off work for childcare, just as much as women. She's one of the good guys.
But you can't help but project every feminazi stereotype onto her, just because she's female.
I felt compelled to log in and comment, as I recently saw this for the first time in my life a few weeks ago. I know this is only my one small anecdotal story, however it is true, and has made me reconsider how widespread the problem actually is.
I was out drinking with a small group of friends a few weeks back. Out camping. We'd done this many times before, and were really good friends. One is a single female, and she hangs with our group because she can drink beer and shoot the shit with guys pretty damn well, although you wouldn't be able to tell looking at her. As it turns, one night she drank too much (as we all did), and started crossing the line with one of my friends, who is married. She just got drunk and couldn't control herself. She was all over my friend, kissing his neck and they ended up making out. Maybe a little nudity involved. Anyway, somewhat awkward but not a big deal to us as it was pretty tame (relatively) and hey, people do stupid things they don't normally do when drunk. However, I could tell SHE was extremely ashamed by her actions.. she remembered what she did, I could tell in her eyes. We had no problems, SHE was visibly upset by HER behaviour. Things were fine for the rest of the trip, but when we got back she threatened to press assault charges if we ever told anyone what happened. She used this tactic just to avoid the embarrassment of anyone hearing what she did (she was quite a 'conservative' girl).
Long story short, I hate to say this but women will do extreme things when they feel shamed or hurt. I'm sure anyone who's had a long term relationship or especially a divorce knows this. Thinking about it, though I was a pure gentleman the entire weekend, and none of us would ever hit on this girl, she could have caused significant damage to me with the mere accusation. We are all too ready to point fingers and take sides on these issues. People ARE to quick to judge.
You assume an awful lot there, which I think is more telling of your attitude than anything. Maybe it's time you dropped the victim angle and tried to address the actual issue being discussed here.
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I bet they're French! They probably have choices words about our mothers and elderberry reeking fathers!
Some of what you said was persuasive, but you definately lost me with this. There are all sorts of very large scale victimizations going on in the world, where powerful people get to purchase their way above the laws of the lower class. I don't know the reality of what happened in this case, but as someone who has read many news articles, this one sounded like it was legit. I forget the details, but the timing of key events in the legal procedural aftermath were very suspiciously coinciding with other political 'power upheavals'.
Now, if you want a substitute example that better bolsters your point (not that I agree with it), you should bring up Julian Assange. Of course in that case, based solely on speculation of paranoid perceptions of mainstream media, I tend to suspect that Mr. Assange is guilty of _something_. But rather a hell of a lot less than would warrant the threats that now face him on the edge of his asylum.
So, some minor celebrity wanna-be pays a scummy online marketing scammers to troll 4chan with a Hoax.
I can see this going down well.
Awesome!
Who will be giving the speech on masculinity?
...where people who find games depicting antisocial behavior & graphic violence acceptable can be so censorious & hot under the collar at the possibility that there may be nude photos of a woman in the vicinity.