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Han Solo To Get His Own Star Wars Movie Prequel
New submitter alaskana writes: According to Starwars.com, Han Solo will be getting his own movie prequel. The film will purportedly tell the story of a young Han Solo and how he came to be the wily smuggler that shows up in Star Wars: Episode IV A New Hope. The film is set to be directed by Christopher Miller and Phil Lord (of The Lego Movie fame) and written by Lawrence and Jon Kasdan. Get your popcorn and tickets ready, as the movie is set to debut May 25, 2018.
Fuck that! I want Jar Jar Binks' background story, and how he came to have the death sentence placed on him by Boss Rugor Nas.
Can you imagine a movie populated completely by Gungans! Meesah think it vewry vewry good!
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So you're thinking this would be a thinly-veiled allegorical retelling of Ron Paul's life? Maybe it can include a "staffer" writing anti-Wookie rants in Han's newsletter.
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I thought Lucas was now basically just a consultant, and didn't have much involvement in actual story development; sort of a Gene Roddenberry, except he ended the Great Bird of a Galaxy Far Far Away ended up being many times richer than the mere Great Bird of our humble galaxy.
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As long as the have the Kessel Run, we'll all be satisfied.
"I am a protocol droid versed in six million forms of..."
"Fuck that Golden Rod, tell that garbage motivator that I want twelve tons of sewage dropped on Lando's head."
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[knock, knock, knock on bathroom door]
Young Han: Mom! I'm busy! Go away!
Are they going to incorporate anything from the Brian Daily prequel books (Han Solo at Stars' End, Han Solo's Revenge, Han Solo and the Lost Legacy) and the like, or are they going to start with a clean slate and write a new history? While I enjoyed the books, either direction would be fine by me as I'm not a rabid purist. I just am interested in knowing what they plan to do with the story.
Because if I recall (though I haven't read it in forever), the previously-official-but-not-anymore Han Solo prequel story was actually a pretty fun story. It wasn't the Thrawn trilogy, but it was still pretty decent, and I would totally support there being a movie adaptation of it: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki...
But again, not as much as I wanted to see Thrawn on the big screen. Star Wars the no-longer-extended-universe-that-has-no-Timothy-Zahn-in-it-anywhere is dead to me.
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A likely sanitized version of Han Solo? No thanks.
I tend to agree. The Star Wars (And Star Trek) Universe needs to be put to an end.
Star Trek was a reflections of the 1960's and 1970's
Star Wars is a Reflection of the 1970's and 1980's
Star Trek TNG, Was a reflection of the 1980 and 1990's
Star Trek vs TNG, did a decent job modernizing they did it by in essence mostly ignoring the original series (especially after the first season, where it was a bit too much like the original)
But as time went on they kept on building new and new additions and created a universe that is now dated by today's standard.
When they made Star Wars Episodes 1-3 they sucked, because we had to try to implement a modern style to an old film.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
I have a bad feeling about this...
(sorry...)
Come on, somebody make a good movie about a space smuggler. Licensed Star Wars is ruined. Does Disney own all space smugglers yet?
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> When they made Star Wars Episodes 1-3 they sucked, because we had to try to implement a modern style to an old film.
Hm. And why did we have to do that?
They sucked for a variety of reasons -- casting, plot, dialog, but they also sucked because there seemed to be a rule that every square inch of screen needed to be squirming with cutesy protoplasm or cutesy robotics. Agreed, the original Star Wars was a 1970's take on 1930's SF serials, but the prequels were... I dunno what. Really expensive self parody, I guess. And not the good kind.
Ignoring all the other things for a minute, a "style" like the original film -- sparse, concise, with callbacks to older serials but without overdoing it, might have been less unpleasant to watch.
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Put in more little robots! And I want cutesy creatures here, and here, and here and here and here and here and here. The main character has to grab a fruit with his tongue! Kids love that!
The main character is human, George.
Well, make him something else then. With a funny accent. Kids love that.
Shut up, George.
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> When they made Star Wars Episodes 1-3 they sucked, because we had to try to implement a modern style to an old film.
... you were able to narrow it down to one reason?
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Make more theme worlds, because apparently the universe is populated by jungle worlds, metal worlds, forest worlds, magma worlds, ice worlds and desert worlds.
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Point. If Lucas properly understood scale, the entire series could have taken place on one planet.
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Personally, I suspect this means we can expect to see Batman make an appearance.
Every time I watch them, I come up with another reason to loathe them. Mind you, it's been about five years since the last viewing of any Star Wars film, so I'll probably have forgotten half the reasons the prequels stunk so very very badly.
I remember clearly watching The Phantom Menace and realizing the extent of the suckage when C3PO turns out to be Darth Vader's droid. I was still reeling from the midichlorians nonsense, and then that. Of course, by the time pod-racer video game advertisement had taken up most of the second act, I realized that George Lucas wasn't just a greedy bastard, but well and truly had no fucking idea how to make an at least enjoyable film anymore. Two more prequels and the last Indiana Jones movie convinced me that Lucas was done even as an action-adventure director (the latter demonstrated that he had lost even the basic concept of pacing).
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I can't wait for the musical numbers!
God, I really hope they follow the Han Solo Trilogy, 1: because I must have read them 10 times each as a teenager, and 2: because they are pretty decent, as far as Star Wars novels go, and did a good job of retconning all the weird shit Lucas did (the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs for example)
I've decided to Diversify my Holdings. I've divided my cash between my left and right pockets, instead of all in one.
> Bark less. Wag more.
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Then why did you keep watching them? I've seen each of the original three once and have no desire to watch them again. I don't find them that good. I last at most 10 minutes into Episode 1 when it was on TV.
The movie was called "Serenity"
None of the Disney Star Wars movies have come out yet, and I already feel sick of them. Why don't they try just one movie first and see how it does?
And it was much better than the latest Star Wars.
I'm just happy they never made sequels to The Matrix; I mean, how weird would that have been, right? :)
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Nuff said. :)
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I was thinking the same thing, those three books by Brian Daly were pretty good although they take place after Han escapes from the mines with Chewie but before episode 4.
My main concern is who are they going to get to play Han, and frankly the idea that Chris Pratt could play either Indiana Jones or Han Solo; that guy is just like Will Ferrell, a dope no matter how you slice it and he doesn't have the chops to play either character convincingly.
But Lucas put multiple theme worlds in each film. Episde IV had two, Episode V had 3, Episode VI had two. I'm trying to remember the prequels, I think Episode I had three, Episode II had three, and I can't even remember how how many Episode III had.
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The Han Solo prequel could have been good, if only they'd hired Vince Gilligan to write it.
If Lucas had been interested in realism, the entire series would've been boring. You want the asteroid chase in a realistic asteroid field where you never see an asteroid the whole time? Several years passing while they try to make it from Hoth to Bespin on sublight engines? Star Wars isn't speculative fiction, it's space opera.
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Then go Machete order, or at least go with The Phantom Edit.
Why was this marked troll? Anybody who has actually watched any of the "behind the scenes" stuff on Lucas knows 1-3 might as well have been parody as it was done by someone who no longer understood his own films and was as clueless as any ad exec!
I mean you thought the ALIENS in Crystal Skull was bad? Lucas wanted to make the movie in a Haunted House, like a 1940s slapstick! Picture Indy with a bumbling black sidekick doing the "lawdy I sees a spook!" bit and that is about the level we are talking here. I'm sure you can find Spielberg talking about it on YouTube, and just look at his face when he mentions it, its that "DaFuq was he thinking?" look times ten.
Look I really REALLY liked classic Lucas, hell I even enjoyed Howard The Duck for its 80s cheesy goodness but lets face facts folks....too many years with too much money just killed whatever creative spark the man had. Seriously watch the behind the scenes stuff on the prequels, the man just didn't have what it takes to cook up good sci-fi by that point and it showed. You don't have to watch Mr Plinkett to see that damned near every shot in that movie was just plain bad, bad dialog, bad blocking, too much filler in the background, bad script, I'm sorry but the talent that came up with 4-6? Just wasn't there anymore.
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...that Shia LeBeouf is going to play young Han Solo!
Full title: "The Han Solo Lego Movie"
I sympathise with most Lucas complaints, but this is a pretty weird one. Are you suggesting that, because our particular planet has a lot of diversity (and do I need to point out that pretty much all of the other planets we've discovered are NOT diverse at all?) that all space operas should take place on a single planet? You don't think that might diminish the epicness a tad? You don't think that changing a planet-destroying weapon to, I don't know, a continent-destroying weapon would have been a tad lame?
The SW universe being too big is not a problem. In fact, its sense of size is one of the biggest things it had going for it, and it is precisely Lucas's unhealthy devotion to self-referential character-recycling smallness that drags things down--the main characters are all laboriously and ridiculously connected/related/cloned so that they are present or connected to all critical characters and all critical plot points. Boba Fett was a neat little background character that developed a strong cult following, so Lucas... decides to make him *the* clone of the mysterious 'clone wars', which is ridiculous from pretty much every single angle except the angle that he gets to prominently include a fan favorite in the prequels.
I'm sorry but the talent that came up with 4-6? Just wasn't there anymore.
The talent that made 4-6 was Kasdan, even though he wasn't there for 4. What was the best Indy film? The only one Kasdan was involved in. Kasdan is back, and that might just save the franchise.
Lucas's defence for Crystal Skull was that viewers didn't understand his source material, and that's true, but in a way irrelevant. Lucas grew up reading adventure comics that mixed magic and aliens and mysticism and everything else on a whim -- the legacy of that lives on in Marvel's current cinematic line-up where the god of thunder works alongside a man in a homemade robotic exoskeleton, a WWII hero on steroids and a bloody archer to fight off a menace from another world who have interbred with humans to create an ancient bloodlne of superpowered beings. Head to the comic world and you could even add in a sorcerer and a genetic mutant, then send them all through time to face off against the grandfather of the devil. I like to think of Crystal Skull as the sequel to Temple of Doom. You remember Temple of Doom, right? Using a life-raft as a parachute/sledge combo, a ridiculously twisty mine shaft booby-trapped with an ugly great boulder etc. That wasn't Kasdan -- that was Lucas. What we all rmmber as Indy is Raiders of the lost Ark, where Kasdan really paid homage to the source material while constructing a genuinely good film. Over-the-top Nazis, wisecracks and character interplay, even the scene with the creepy gestapo guy reaching towards the camera after burning his hand -- all pulled straight from pulp comics, and deftly done. Crucially, it kept all the magic and mysticism to the very end, and Jones cynical to the last, so there was some kind of reveal and change. The Last Crusade was a sequel to Raiders, but somewhat formulaic and slightly overplayed. But again, Nazis, and no magic until the end, after facing all sorts of mechanical pseudo-magic.
So I have some hope for the Star Wars sequels. However, I'm not sure about a Han origin story. Han shot first. Han was rehabilitated by Luke and Leia. So Han should be a bastard, but current Hollywood narratives don't work that way. Now there are goodies and baddies.
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Lethal Lava Land was the best bit of Ep3
A New Hope had three. Tatooine (sand world), the Death Star (artificial world) and Yavin IV (forest moon).
The Empire Strikes Back had three. Hoth (ice world), Dagobah (swamp world) and Bespin (gas giant world).
Return of the Jedi had four. Tatooine (sand world), Dagobah (swamp world), Endor's moon (forest moon) and the Death Star II (artificial world).
The Phantom Menace had three. Naboo (Earth-like world), Tatooine (sand world) and Coruscant (city world).
Attack of the Clones had four. Coruscant (city world), Kamino (water world), Naboo (Earth-like world) and Geonosis (rocky world).
Revenge of the Sith had twelve. Coruscant (city world), Utapau (plains and sinkhole world), Kashyyyk (forest world), Mygeeto (city world?), Felucia (jungle world), Cato Neimoidia (sky world), Saleucami (swamp world), Mustafar (magma world), Polis Massa (asteroid), Naboo (Earth-like world), Alderaan (mountain world) and Tatooine (sand world).
Lucas was trying to analyse his own writing in a technical way. A New Hope was Hidden Fortress + WWII dogfighting. He tried to make... I don't know, something + Ben Hur chariot racing for EpI. But then he made it very unlike the Ben Hur chariot race. Why was the scene in Ben Hur so powerful? Because it was realistic -- in order to get the riders to take more risks, the stunt director turned it into a real race by offering prize money to the first finisher. Several horses were killed because of that. Yet Lucas went out of his wy to make the pod race entirely unrealistic. All that remained of the chariot theme was the stupid little pods that were tethered in a way vaguely reminiscent of horses. He also managed to tell us that the rebels and the Empire were complete morons for manning their fighter fleets with the species with the worst reactions in the galaxy, a species who can't even win a bloody car race if they're not blessed with a demi-god level of Jedi powers.
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The deranged presentation is genius. It takes what would otherwise be a very dry, academic, and accurate dissection of the complete turds that are the three prequel movies and manages to make it entertaining.
I disagree. At least for Star Trek. That setting is wide (not to say bland...) enough to allow for any type of story. Heck, they managed to mash a Picard-Die-Hard-Action-flick and a Back-To-The-Future-comedy into a single movie and it worked!
Each ST series had a unique style and tone. TOS with their "monster of the week" 60's-Sci-Fi, TNG ("we have the moral duty to...") and Ds9 with the longer, almost soap-like story arcs. Add to this the regular oddball-episode dabbling into absolutely non-Science Fiction areas. (VOY combining the worst of the now boring "monster of the week" with Picards worst speeches about moral dilemmas)
You could have made tons of movies and series that could have stood on their own, but in a desperate try to tap into the fanbase by adding charackters with the same name as TOS crew, they went down the "prequel"-trap that rewrites canon an turns a endless, open playground story-universe into a tightly tangled mess of alternative "timelines".
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Couldn't agree more. I thought the Thrawn trilogy was very entertaining, tied into the cannon in an excellent way and would have been great as movies. Too bad that will (probably) never happend.
Nah. Why wait when you can jump ;)
Bark less. Wag more.
A Kasdan penned Han Solo movie? Yes, please!
Except rather than make a whole movie about the younger backstory they just made it the beginning of the movie...
Junior!
From someone who saw what is now known as "A New Hope" in theaters 4 times in the 70's (not really a brag, that just means I was alive then. The lines were literally around the theaters every showing), this is a frigging great idea. I don't know why it took so long to come up with it, but I'm grateful it didn't happen until after Lucas.
On a side note, whoever's idea it was to make the "department" on this post a quote from Kosh on Babylon-5, 50 points to your house. (Hufflepuff I'm guessing). And may the odds be forever in your favor. Always.
Will he still be the type to shoot first?
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Sure, they could have set it all on Alderaan. As a bonus, the ending writes itself.
When someone says, "Any fool can see
> Lucas's defence for Crystal Skull was that viewers didn't understand his source material, and that's true, but in a way irrelevant. [...]
Enh. In the seventies and eighties I developed a taste for '30's pulps, adventure stories and early "golden age" science fiction. (Doc Savage, The Avenger, various works by A E Van Voight and Doc Smith, lots of others) (This also led to "hard boiled" detective novels, which resulted in reading all the works of Hammett and Chandler, and by extension ("Perchance to dream") now delving into Robert Parker. Side issue. Never mind.) Anyway, I'm very familiar with the genre he was trying to exploit. I thought the movie was a mishmash of painfully executed tropes that didn't really fit well together. There was no "aha" moment, (which the film DESPERATELY needed) and way too many "WTF" moments.
Let me be clear: This is not the fault of the tropes he was trying to execute. It was because they didn't really fit together, and because he executed them clumsily and in a rather ham-fisted manner. Everything about this film seemed ... I dunno, unfinished. (Especially the script.) Even the digital effects were not up to the state of the art at the time.
So no, the issue with the fourth Indiana Jones film was not that it was about ancient aliens in south america (oops, spoilers) but that it was a stupid story about ancient aliens in south america.
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I agree with you on that. Kasdan wrote good stories... Lucas didn't. That's the main thing. However, I do think using aliens was misjudged, because Indy is Indy, not its source material.
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> Lucas can't write dialog. He got help with that for Empire and Jedi, but by the time the prequels were being written and filmed, people were too awed by his earlier success to be willing to actually *remind* him that he needed help writing dialog.
This is absolutely true, but I'm not sure I agree with your other assertions. Casting: Hayden Christensen. Jake Lloyd. Must I go on? Plot: Trade agreements. Senate sub-committees. Dialog: "Yippee".
So yeah, we agree on the dialog. And we agree on *why* the dialog sucked. And why, say, one of the actors, or crew, didn't step in and say "Hey, George. Nobody speaks like this." But I can't agree that this was the only issue.
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God, I really hope they follow the Han Solo Trilogy, 1: because I must have read them 10 times each as a teenager
It's some nice memories of your childhood you have there. It would be unfortunate if someone came along and ruined them for you.
"That'ssss a very nice memory you have there, it would be a shame if ssssomething happened to it"
Well, Shia LaBeouf ofcourse!
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
Soundrels would also make an excellent movie... Alas, Star Wars will never be in the public domain in our lifetimes in order to make the movies on our own.
Yes it's an anecdote! Were you expecting original research in a Slashdot comment?
Han Solo being chased by Minions? Oh wait, Minions is Universal...
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From its Wiktionary entry: "The quality or state of being epic."
The split infinitive argument really has the potential to be much more fun, though, so I'd prefer you address that one. There's really no possible way to be against them without falling back on some very silly authoritarian and/or Romantic ideas.
For the last time, having some instances of agglutination in a language doesn't mean you can construct any old form you like as agglutinative languages allow you to do.
Saying "English is agglutinative" is not the same thing as saying "English is first and foremost an agglutinative language" or "English is primarily categorized as agglutinative." It is roughly the equivalent of saying "English has [some] instances of agglutination." That was my intention at the time and it's clear that I was arguing for agglutination re: suffix attachment and not the exotic stuff, and so... by admitting that English contains valid instances of agglutination, you've completely agreed with me on every primary topic in this little tangent and pointedly ignored the rest (epicness being widely used and found in modern dictionaries, coinage of new words such as assassination, the split infinitives you refuse to discuss, etc.)
So, I'm calling this a win. Get back to me with something interesting or intelligent if you want; otherwise, I do believe I'm done here.