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Chris Christie Proposes Tracking Immigrants the Way FedEx Tracks Packages
PolygamousRanchKid submits the news that New Jersey governor (and Republican presidential candidate) Chris Christie said yesterday that he would, if elected president, create a system to track foreign visitors the way FedEx tracks packages. The NYT writes:
Mr. Christie, who is far back in the pack of candidates for the Republican presidential nomination, said at a campaign event in New Hampshire that he would ask the chief executive of FedEx, Frederick W. Smith, to devise the tracking system."At any moment, FedEx can tell you where that package is. It's on the truck. It's at the station. It's on the airplane," Mr. Christie told the crowd in Laconia, N.H. "Yet we let people come to this country with visas, and the minute they come in, we lose track of them." He added: "We need to have a system that tracks you from the moment you come in."
Adds the submitter: "I'm sure foreign tourist will be amused when getting a bar code sticker slapped on their arm."
I'm somewhat interested in visiting the US, but this kind of bullshit would absolutely kill any desire to go there.
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Just prosecute the ones that violate their visas and if they violated them to make money, asset strip them. How many Mexicans do you think would come here illegally if CBP or local law enforcement had an explicit grant to use civil asset forfeiture to take everything they own?
This really isn't feasible. It's a waste of government money and I can't imagine how to realistically track visitors to the US anywhere they go. It seems like it would take a lot of government employees to make this happen and I'm sure we've got better things to spend our money on. But it's also not addressing another big issue, which is all the visitors it won't track. There are legitimate reasons to want to prevent undocumented "visitors" to the US, but they're not going to sign up to be tracked. Let's be honest, Christie knows all of this, too. He wouldn't seriously do such a thing. Rather, it's something to fire up the conservative Republican base.
Christie would make the ideal VP for Trump. They're both ignorant bigots.
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..and make them wear yellow bages
I dunno, I've been watching the rise of the SJW phenomenon online over the last few years, mostly with distaste - in particular for unabashed hate movements like feminism - but when it comes to racism I've slowly been forced to conclude that quite a lot of Americans really are racists to a surprising degree. Now that doesn't mean unchecked immigration is a good thing, but what Trump and company are smoking out of the bushes are a huge population of genuine xenophobes.
The other thing I've noticed is the degree to which SJWs actually cause the reactions they want to claim are reactionary. If they weren't out there shrieking about white privilege and telling white people to kill themselves, it seems likely that Trump and Christie wouldn't be getting the support they're getting. The SJW approach is less to support the downtrodden than to attack whoever they feel is oppressing others, which in turn causes the "oppressors" - who for the most part aren't anything of the sort - to become radicalised and polarised. SJWs creat the monster they claim exists, and it didn't have to be that way at all.
I think Morgan Freeman has the best approach to dealing with racism, and that is to just stop talking about it.
"I'm sure foreign tourist will be amused when getting a bar code sticker slapped on their arm."
Yeah i am sure amused to be tracked all the time like cattle with a tag and not having a private moment. Being treated like an animals sound fun. Why don't you start first Chrissie sweetie. How about we attach a gps tag on your ankle. That sound fun right ?
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America has been put in a bad position. There are laws of the land concerning who may enter and remain in the country. Yet as we've seen, the enforcement of these laws has been quite lax. We see third-worlders streaming into America, typically from its southern border, in violation of these laws. There are severe economic consequences of this. There are political consequences. There are social consequences. It's absolutely awful for the migrants who came to the US legally. These people did things properly, jumped through many hoops, and then are forced to watch as the worst of the third-worlders bypass all of the laws and get preferential treatment.
Had the laws been enforced, and illegal aliens prevented from entering or removed after they had been found, then America wouldn't be in the position it is currently in. So it's not totally unreasonable for there to be tracking of visitors. It doesn't have to apply to all visitors, obviously. Just those who are a risk for violating American law. The Japanese business executive who is in America for several days for business meetings does not need to be tracked. The Nicaraguan with no job, no education, no English skills, and much to gain by illegally remaining in America probably should be tracked.
Yup, playing to the unwashed masses. Same as Hillary saying the Republican party is a "terrorist group".
Wouldn't it be easier to implant a microchip into everyone who crosses the border?
FedEx packages are travelling through a confined system of checkpoints. Unless Christie wants to put checkpoints all around America and have everyone showing their papers to TSA agents on every public highway, it just won't work.
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Sounds like Christie was inspired by last week's news from Austria.
Like so very many problems, this one becomes much simpler once you stop thinking of "them" as people.
Sure, FedEx can tell you exactly where a package is, until they can't anymore. It's not like they don't lose packages. The only reason they can track them as well as they do is because they are going to a limit number of areas where they are scanned going in and out of each. And they still lose them sometime. Unless we are going to have immigrant get scanned in everywhere they go, there isn't a way to track people the same way we track packages.
"Information wants to be expensive" - Stewart Brand, the same guy who said "Information wants to be free"
have their heads so up their asses they don't even realize how unattainable and even how ridiculous their proposals are. the worst is that these morons can say whatever they want and people will still vote for them. country of morons.
Make it 2.
Why not add an easy to see identifier, like a yellow star. . .
i have a counter-proposal: every american voter exits the voting booth with a tattoo across their forehead with the name of their presidential vote.
no more of this BS anonymous polling that leads to elementary school opinions favoring playground bullies - what will it take for voters to grow up and take their responsibility seriously?
whatever it is, i'm shocked that all evidence to the contrary, we aren't already beyond this point.
This guy want to number people just like jews where tagged during the holocaust, or did i miss something?
I am sure Chrissie sweetie would cream his pant at the idea of attooing or putting tag on tourist/visa visitor, but the idea is quite old : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... and it was done efficiently too.
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Ha ha ha. I call bullshit.
I usually get three or four status updates when I track a package: The first is usually something like "package left Wichita, Kansas facility." Two or three days later I see "Arrived in Marieta, Georgia facility." Then "package is out for delivery." A couple hours after delivery there's a "package delivered" update.
That's a damn far cry from knowing where it is at any given moment.
They should do it to themselves FIRST.
They still would come because they have nothing to lose, most of them have net assets of close to zero. The first generation tends to live hand to mouth. The people who make the money are the American factory owners and farmers who employ them. These are the people you would need to asset strip to stop employment of immigrants but if we think politicians are going to go after these people (their biggest donors) we are naive. Incidentally if the U.S. did manage to deport all 11 million of them it would cause a massive economic implosion due to a drop in demand for basic goods. It would likely also cause a closure of US factories and increase the offshoring of US industry.
How do fucktards like this even get to be a governor? People in this country who vote are really fucked in the head.
And there are a lot of us out there who would vote Republican again if only they would lose that crazy shit, and get back to real conservative principles, like watch the money, but pay the bills, and to let people alone.
What is amazing though is that some of their base will go along with this, even though Christie's Star of David patch idea smacks a little of a mark of the beast as well. The amazing thing is that a mainstream candidate like Christie would not think twice about proposing this really bad idea with really bad precedents.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Both the Republicans and Democrats know the only way to stave off Social Security money scarcity is to inhale large numbers of younger workers (this, by the way, is the exact problem Ponzi schemes have, and why they were made illegal, and why it's a legitimate comparison -- they always run out of new investors to pay back previous ones. They just don't have the legal power to force everyone to invest, delaying, but not stopping, the inevitable. No "investor" gets back as much as they put in...in either.)
The Republicans are just pissed The Donald has made a stink of it, and now they have to respond with idiocies like this, the more outrageous the better, apparently. Seriously.
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Also, what ever happened to:
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A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
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The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
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An idea like Mr. Christies' flies in the face of one of the things this country was supposed to be about in the first place. I know damned well that the United States I grew up believing in never really existed, but damnit, why can't we make it that? I want the Founding Fathers of this country to turn out to be right, not George Orwell!
Finally, what kind of an asshole do you have to be to come up with an idea like this? Fuck that, and fuck Christie sideways with a rusty chainsaw for even suggesting something like this.
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Bar code them -- in fact bar code or chip them .... perfect!!
In fact it would save time if at birth everyone got a number/code tattooed and get chipped that way when you travel or go through a door, or get in a car or move anywhere -- we would know where you are...
In fact -- the technology exists to also include "shut down and hold" in such chips .... makes crowd control easy.
Insert your arm in the IPPA machine.
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This guy needs to start a kick starter project. Sounds like absolute genius. Maybe we could even implement remote locking of doors for when people litter.
But it wouldn't work anyway.
I don't think he even understands FedEx. FedEx cannot tell you where a package is RIGHT NOW. They can only tell you where it was LAST SCANNED.
The reason this works well for packages is that packages don't move themselves. And even then it has failures. This will completely fail because HUMANS can wander around on their own.
Sounds more like Christie wants to associate his campaign with something that people have a mostly positive opinion of. But I'm pretty sure that FedEx will not want to be associated with a losing candidate OR the concept of tagging and tracking undesirable races/nationalities (shades of Nazi German there).
and let my neighbors steal them?
I think anyone who cannot trace their ancestry back to those came by the land bridge should get the "F" out of here.
Wouldn't it make more sense to focus on keeping *illegal* immigrants out than tagging and tracking *legal* ones? What the actual fuck?!
OF course, the real purpose of this proposal is that it's one step closer to tagging and tracking *all of us*.
Let's brand foreigners in the US, just like cattle, or like the Nazis used to do with the Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, etc. Let's go back to that kind world.
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The world is enjoying it's longest most peaceful time period since the fall of Rome and idiots get upset over what it took to achieve it.
He'll never be president, he has to many skeletons in the closet... ...of cows.
Typical wasp with regular shit.. How do these fools get to stand for pres election?? Im sure this kindled kanye west for the next election.
Fat Fucking idiot willing to say anything stupid to stay relevant.
FedEx tracks packages that are in its custody.
Every business does some degree of tracking of merchandise, equipment, employees, customers, visitors that are on its property.
So, strictly speaking, all he's suggesting is that police check the passport of a foreigner when they arrest them. And at no other time.
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Now another Republican candidate wants to put bar codes on the people to track them.
Have the Republicans gone insane?
We all have rfid implants, and set up scanners everywhere? Because how would you know the visitors from the residents unless you track everyone?
Even if this wasn't a giant affront to rights, how would he even expect to technically implement this?
Do republicans really go apeshit for this kind of complete fantasy bullshit? So much for "freedom 'murcia." (oh right, freedom only applies to people born here that are christians)
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Well we have plenty of ID systems in the US. Most States offer a non drivers ID or a Drivers license. I am not sure why we cannot improve upon what we have? The problem is, we must make a effort to document people and unfortunately the South boarder seems to be the biggest offender of not following immigration policy. Why is that? Ignorance, language barriers? unable to fill out paperwork? Unwilling to go through proper channels? The problem is Mexico and everyone who goes through Mexico to get to the US. I guarantee you make it easier to document who comes and goes and they will obey those policies better. Nobody wants to smuggle into the US unless they are doing something wrong. But we also should keep out rather then protect people who commit crimes and are deported and return to commit another. Maybe instead of deporting we need to imprison them so we know where they are? Most Countries work much harder at keeping track of people in their Country. Why the US cannot do this is the big question.
Is that part of the "deep bench" from the GOP?
Do they mean by deep bench "we can replace any of our lackluster, mediocre candidates by another equally untalented, saying equally thoughtless platitudes, to the delight of the unthinking GOP base"?
"Chris Christie Proposes Tracking Dark People the Way FedEx Tracks Packages"
So they'll be put in a box and lost in Memphis? How is he going to get the illegals to get into the box?
If you're a criminal (illegal citizen) then you don't have the same rights as law abiding citizens and are subject to tracking. Seems perfectly reasonable and I would be totally in favor of such practice. Sadly the OP left his tin-foil hat on too tight and thinks that once a program like that is a huge success they'll replace standard IDs or something else.
This would be amazing for the criminal industries, the data won't be secure and now they will have a way of tracking tourists to rob! excellent suggestion, why hasn't this been implemented before, this is progress in action people! (pulls on his turtleneck)
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I know when I travel to Asia, South America, or Europe, I need to present my passport at all hotels I stay at. When I worked in Belgium, Chile and China, I had to register with the Government and provide the local police station with my information - and inform them if I moved to a new apartment/house. In the US, I don't think that tourists need to provide their passports at hotels, nor do visa holders need to register with the local police station. So - how is what is proposed much different than 90% of the rest of the world?
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will make it to easy to see the HB1 fraud
... it's just a little code tattooed on your forearm. Oh, and we'd like you to sew this little gold star on your clothes.
Here are the top ten leading causes of death in the USA.
I looked. Homicide is 15th. Death By Terrorism isn't on this list. Overdose from drugs bought from drug dealing immigrants isn't either. Just once I wish we'd wage a war on Cancer or Drunk Driving, ya know?
Also, because it has to be said.... Maybe we can put their tracking bar code on some kind of armband? This shit is !@#$ing stupid and dangerously close to Nazi levels of moron. We have a serious politician blaming the Jews Immigrants and willing to label them. Oh. Come. On!
The Republican party invited in the stupid and completely has lost it's !@#$ing mind.
If you visit Europe then every hotel you stay in records your passport details and submits them every night. It would not be a big step to get hotels to submit that at midnight every night to Interpol. That'd be as close to FedEx tracking as you could come. It isn't beyond the realms of possibility for that to be done in the USA.
BUT...
This will not track immigrants, legal or illegal as they don't tend to stay in motels or hotels.
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US problem is not visa attribution - US problem is same problem as everywhere else: too many people, too few jobs, too much lack of education, too many dreams and too many deceptions.
Labeling people will not only not help, but will make thinks worse.
The Nazi system labeled jews, you still recall for sure.
I read an intresting summary today (I am not sure it's accurate though), but it stated that when The Berlin Wall was torn down in 1989 there were other 16 such walls in the world (not necessarly built same way). Nowadays 65 exist, either already in place or being finished. Last one is between Hungary and Serbia, being finished. This is a border line. Not different from the border you see at any international airport.
Most migrants are not searching for The Ultimate Life, but rather seeking survival.
Labeling them is to treat them as if they were animals - or even worse! I guess I could more easily get a permit for my Dog than one of those migrants can get a Visa for entering the US.
And yes, I am somehow revolted, even with my country, due to how it refuses to receive migrants from North Africa.
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What a nice compliment. It implies that the people engaged in this conversation possess some degree of 'grace' to begin with. That would have to include Donald Trump, Christie, and the editorial staff who ok the agenda of the nation's mass stenography pool.
Christie proposed something that is so incredibly expensive and politically extreme hat it's impossible to implement without recreating elements of a Nazi police state combined with colonialist and apartheid-like policies. He only did it because it's one up from Trump, but it'reported like it's both plausible or acceptable.
Conservatism is now officially dead when anything this expensive, intusive and paranoid actually is treated as credible. Apparently Trump is forcing the inherent insanity under the facade of the Republican mindset to percolate up through the thin veneer that once coloured allowed the Grand Old Patronizers to seem respectable.
Trump is the perfect sound board for conservatism.
The race to the bottom has begun in earnest. We are stupid people and we deserve the stupid politicians we keep electing.
Whenever a politician suggests something stupid like this then they have to apply it to themselves first to see how it works. Not when it passes, just when they bring the idea out in the public forum.
"Yet we let people come to this country with visas, and the minute they come in, we lose track of them." He added: "We need to have a system that tracks you from the moment you come in."
And about 3 nanoseconds later this would be used to track citizens and violate all kinds of civil rights. If we actually aspire to be a free country we have to let people go about their business especially when we have no reasons to suspect them of anything.
Because this worked so well for tracking that last pallet of ding dongs.
So he wants to put a barcode on everyone?
There are always multiple wars going on in numerous places in the world, constantly. Many of these are being interfered with, instigated, or supported by the US and its allies.
I've got news for you, kid.
It has always been like that and you don't need an imperial power to drive the action, all you need is a sense that you are losing ground against the other.
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We need to have a system that tracks you from the moment you come in.
Yea if only we had such a device just about everybody carried around in their pockets with a GPS, camera, microphone, gyroscope, radio etc. Now it would be ideal if only there were handful of giant service providers, so we could work with them to get it done. Naah, who am I kidding? This is America, we have rights, you could never get something like that done.
Right now we can't get american's to pick food and until we have robots doing it we need people to do it.
That's pretty much the same argument that Microsoft, Facebook, etc. trot out when claiming they need more H1B workers. So surely you will accept the implicit qualifier "... at the pittance salary we want to pay" part of that argument?
I am not talking about the H1-B crap that is abused and just for getting cheap programmers pretty much.
Doh! I guess you think employers will only use foreign workers to abuse supply and demand effects on your salary and think that can't possibly explain why current Ag worker wages are so low that Americans can't accept them.
Just be honest: you want to be paid high wages and you want to pay low prices ... no matter who else has to get screwed in the process.
Fedex "tracking," and I UPS and USPS. At least in the past they used algorithms to deduce where a package 'probably should be." If it was scanned in Memphis on Monday, and if it was such and such a rate (such as Parcel or Expedited), and going to Seattle, on Wed. it should be in a depot in Salt Lake City. I don't know if they still report such info when you look up tracking, but I'm pretty sure they used to report the location based on such 'calculations.'
So, once again, a politician thinks he can wave a magic wand and it will happen.
This just in!
Back to Fedex immigrant tracking: will the taxpayers get stuck with the insurance bill if a 'package' is lost of damaged?
What I was trying to illustrate was the absurdity that people are criminalized for simply providing for themselves and their loved ones.
No, what you were trying to argue is that illegal immigration and working without a work visa are "victimless crimes". Much like many on this site argue that using marihuana, or other drugs, is a "victimless crime" and thus does not deserve criminal punishment.
Your argument is exceptionally ironic because you claim these illegal immigrants needed to commit their crime to escape "ruthless violence fueled by American demand for drugs." IOW you have recognized that crimes which appear to be victimless may actually have victims that are just less obvious because they are separated in time and space from the crime. So why can't you accept that the crimes committed by your coworkers actually have victims even if you didn't see them and those victims might even be severely hurt by their crimes?
Two wrongs don't make a right.
we could tattoo a number on their wrist and maybe implant a RFID too.
I guess whomever supports sh*t like this never leaves the country. If they did, and this was applied to them upon entry, we might hear a different song. I guess the Repubs figure anybody who travels doesn't vote for them anyway so who cares about pissing them off?
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I think someone else tried this 50 odd years ago.
Can't wait to see how Israel reacts to its citizens being tattooed again.
I wonder how long it will be until someone explains to Chris Christie that there is a fundamental difference between a inanimate package an an animate person. Secondly I wonder how long it will take the Governor to understand them...
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I guess tourism not big money in New Jersey or else he wouldn’t say something so stupid. I know people who bypass the USA now because the airport experience is so bad compared with the rest of the world, this would step that whole avoidance of the USA another magnitude.
Somebody should tell Chris Christie that it might not be a good idea to downgrade from GPS tracking of the smart phone devices or from the malware which jumps over air.
I think that it is a bit naive to believe that you would not be tracked 24/7 already, it should not take a rocket scientist to create a software, when you have the unlimited federal funding (backed by the floating currency). All in all, I personally don't care if somebody wants to track me online or offline, it is their problem, and more likely if that gives someone their daily allowance for food and gadgets, so be it.
In general, going public and saying that we got your back and we track all the bad people and all the good people, is only going to hurt the good, and as long as people have faith that "no-one" knows what they are doing we are safe.
I think that the best idea ever would be that all immigrants would receive a smart phone with GPS chip for free for the duration of their visit, if they dont already own one. Then they would need to return the device when they leave the country. Then also those who don't have the iPhone or Android device, would be covered. And if you would want to be more efficient, you would provide them with prepaid visa or mastercard, which would then give you the "full profile" of their behaviour (more or less).
But what really makes me worried is that if they would treat you, like the FedEx treats their packages.
We track all politicians like we track cattle in the west. A large brand and a tag through the ear.
Meanwhile, scott walker is talking about building a wall on the border with Canada.
... What is happening in the EU right now with immigrants? Hmmm? Its easy to point fingers at the US and say "well that's not good"... but then look at what's happening in your own backyard. Is that good?
Frankly, we're not going to get through our shared problems here without some political incorrectness.
REAL nations can and do hold their borders. That's what borders are in part. They're the line in the sand you hold. Now if you don't do that... then so be it. You don't have a country then.
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Since stickers & ID cards can be lost, we should probably tattoo the number on the persons forearms.
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It's a legit comparison if you're a moron who doesn't know WTF he's talking about. If SS was a Ponzi scheme, the first person on the program would have been a billionaire. The next few thousand people would have been millionaires, and so on until the last to join would be left with nothing.
None of that is the case. None. Which is why you, sir, are a moron.
SS is completely self-funded. The "trust fund" was never supposed to be permanent, but the Boomers paying ahead on their earned retirement benefits. Guess where the Boomers will be by the time the trust fund is depleted? Dead.
They've been saying the similar shit for more than 30 years; and yes that includes both clinton and obama.
You want to fix the immigration issue, you have to work to fixing the socio-economic problems of your neighbors.
Instead the Faggot Republicans have been working to undermine in infrastructures because that creates cheap products people like, and more gun-sales because of fear of socio-economic driven crime, which the NRA creams their panties over.
Boondoggles like this are just going to exasperate the issue especially when Citizens who aren't required to carry papers have their papers demanded of them from assholes with badges.
You want to change things you're going to have to boot out the Republicans, Libertarians, and Faux-Progressives like Hillary and Obama. And institute policies that will help our neighboring countries grow. And NAFTA shit is the wrong way, that just pushes the bar even lower without raising the standard of living for anyone. It just turns places where manufacturing used to happen like Detroit into free-fire zones.
Love to see Chistie's reaction when his European cousins come for a visit and get their ankle bracelet applied at Newark International.
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it's a socialist program meant to keep old people who can't work anymore from becoming homeless. The only question you need to answer when you ask yourself "Can we Afford Social Security?" is "Is America too broke to keep old people from being homeless?". I'd like to think my country isn't that broke (or stupid), so long as we put some caps on the number of mansions folks like Dick Cheney and the Koch bros. can have.
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There's no technical reason for barcodes or even RFIDs. Facial recognition, gait recognition, or even fingerprints would work. But Christi doesn't need to introduce the idea. It will happen anyway - and not just to immigrants.
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"he would ask the chief executive of FedEx, Frederick W. Smith, to devise the tracking system"
Yes, I am sure the CEO knows all the details of making a system like this work.
Full disclosure: I had some short IT consulting jobs with FEDEX.
I once worked for a guy who had a number tattooed on his arm. There are some still around, though more of their kids and grandkids, and enough living in NYC or New Jersey that you'd think Christie would have more sense.
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Issue them a smartphone and a Facebook account when they enter the country. Problem solved.
One would hope that this isn't where Christy is going for ideas.
track them the same way he tracks calories.
they should not track tourists in jersey, they wont go there anyway
also, wouldnt it be simpler to just make fed ex president the new usa president and the fed ex workers the new usa administration? they have the know how after all...
I read most of the comments and interesting enough most of the comments centre around illegal immigrants.
2. It seems to me that the proposals are not for illegal immigrants but for Visa holders. Visa holders come into America legally. A small percentage of these might stay on past their Visa allowance. But if you have seen the Visa requirements you will understand that it really is not that big of a problem. The proposals will basically dehumanize people making us like cargo. The question becomes how would you as an american feel is you go to another country and are constantly tracked like a piece of cargo. If you want to inflict it on foreigners I'm pretty sure it will be inflicted on you pretty soon.
2. Weather we like it or not we are a global community and economy. I think the only economies that are relatively isolated are America and China. But if the South African economy hits a road bump it affects both America and China and of course the other way around. So immigration rules should really be revised it is starting to make less and less sense. Normal economic pressures will equalise immigration and emigration if the countries either relax or remove all the artificial rules regarding this.
3. Instead of strengthening immigration rules even further (as if it helped in the past) Go the opposite direction and make it possible for immigrant to contribute to american society. Then you have solved the problem. Instead of being scared be bold and solve the problem not just add to it.
So, to travel around the good ol' USA you need the same old Negro Passbook to show who you are and where you've been, just like back in the USSR, and check the barcode on your arm to verify that you are who you are. What a Brave New Wolrd, late by three decades.
Freedom, huh?
So, this is what they call "small government"? "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" is no longer legal.
With all the tracking and intelligence collection capabilities US has, no extra effort is needed. Uncle Sam already knows where you go and what you do, if you use any kind of electronic communication or device while in the US (and while outside the US for that matter, for most of us). That, plus airline & hotel & cc usage data tracks the paths of 99% visitors. I guess if you are in the remainign 1% who really "disappear" from the electronic communications after crossing the border, you are automatically a suspect.
17779 eligible voters in a district, 17779 'vote' as one. This is Russia.
1. Why did he use FedEx as an example, and not the USPS?
2. In order for the tracking to have any type of recent results, it would have to be tied to an activity that was necessary and frequent (i.e. spending or receiving money).
3. Anyone that would be responsible for tracking people wouldn't know who to track, so everyone would have to be tracked.
4. This could be solved by a national ID system, and the replacement of cash by electronic currency. The US government could then disable either at any time, and flag people for capture.
If you visit Europe then every hotel you stay in records your passport details and submits them every night
Even France gave this up in the late '80s.
Watch this Heartland Institute video
(sorry, I forgot to add why -- the police asked the government to stop it as they had no more room to put all the stupid cardbord files).
Watch this Heartland Institute video
we are not that far from machines taking over, almost everyone says, we have time to make thinks right, really? ...matter is not all that we should be looking for...
I'm an American and this idea makes me sick... It's a complete invasion of privacy. Chris is committing political suicide. Listening to him talk is like listening to a stoner puke up half baked ideas. Let's put camera in every bathroom so we can stop people from having and privacy... Oh and mandatory polygraph tests every month with extremely personal questions. OH! And we could make all cars not go above the speed limit.... I think I can run for president. I'll rid the ocean of sharks and divert rain to California with giant fans that blow rain clouds to the west coast.
They already have an ID card. It's called a Passport, and it has a unique ID # that is used to register you when you enter the country. Same goes for other countries. It won't track anybody though (unless the holder carries it and walks through a specific RFID reader).
That's what happens when you drink the water from New Jersey...
I'm sure tha
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Personally i've been to the us a number of times and I like it. There is a tonne of great stuff that originates from the USA and alot of the people are awesome. It seems to me though that its always the negative things about the U.S that's highlighted as of late ? that being said christie is a moron.
...he is easily identifiable from outer space.
Why even suggest something if you haven't thought it completely through? Only proves that you can be a couple cards short of a full deck and still be a politician.
where do the immigrants come from.