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British Court Rejects Donald Trump's Attempt To Block Wind Farm (nytimes.com)
HughPickens.com writes: Sewell Chan reports at the NYT that Britain's highest court has unanimously rejected an attempt by Donald J. Trump to block the construction of a wind farm near his luxury golf resort in northeast Scotland. Trump has vowed to stop further development on the project if the offshore wind farm — 11 turbines, which would be visible from the golf resort 2.2 miles away — goes forward. Trump spokesman George A. Sorial denounced the ruling as "extremely unfortunate for the residents of Aberdeen and anyone who cares about Scotland's economic future" adding that the wind farm will "completely destroy the bucolic Aberdeen Bay and cast a terrible shadow upon the future of tourism for the area. History will judge those involved unfavorably, and the outcome demonstrates the foolish, small-minded and parochial mentality which dominates the current Scottish government's dangerous experiment with wind energy."
Nicola Sturgeon, first minister of Scotland, withdrew Trump's status as a business ambassador to Scotland last week after Trump called for Muslims to be barred from entering the United States. Robert Gordon University in Aberdeen has stripped Mr. Trump of an honorary degree it awarded him in 2010. Trump's mother was born in Scotland and moved to the United States in the 1930s. " I think I do feel Scottish," said Trump at one time.
Nicola Sturgeon, first minister of Scotland, withdrew Trump's status as a business ambassador to Scotland last week after Trump called for Muslims to be barred from entering the United States. Robert Gordon University in Aberdeen has stripped Mr. Trump of an honorary degree it awarded him in 2010. Trump's mother was born in Scotland and moved to the United States in the 1930s. " I think I do feel Scottish," said Trump at one time.
I think if history judges the presence of this wind farm unfavorably, they can, you know, just tear it down. It seems much easier to undo the damage of a wind farm than it does, say, a coal plant.
It doesn't hurt to be nice.
.. or there will be hell toupee.
Have gnu, will travel.
Robert Gordon University in Aberdeen has stripped Mr. Trump of an honorary degree it awarded him in 2010
You kind of have to question why they awarded it in the first place.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Wind Farm? Not Off My Back Porch
But another obstacle is a political heavyweight with a famous name, a local Cape Cod address and hardline opposition to the project.
U.S. Sen. Edward Kennedy's primary residence is in Hyannisport, Mass., on the Kennedy family compound. It's one of the closest landfalls -- about 6 miles -- from the proposed site of the 440-feet turbines, which would be visible from his house as well as other surrounding coastlines.
In all fairness, Kennedy's aides were probably afraid he'd try to drive over to the windmills out at sea.
All your fossil fuel lifestyle is belong to un-Scottish.
Adapt. Or Die.
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Listen all you Scots, Trump's mouthpiece says that experimenting with wind energy is not only dangerous but foolish, small-minded and parochial. Just say no.
A blow hard is trying to stop a wind farm?
It seems much easier to undo the damage of a wind farm than it does, say, a coal plant.
Very true. Also, it seems much easier to undo the damage of a bumbling ineffective government than it does, say, an idiotic megalomaniac fascist dictator.
he was trumped. . .
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That's because he's a lunatic with a dead cat on his head who stands a dangerously high chance of being the Republican candidate for president. But least he doesn't think the pyramids were grain storages and can spell "poverbs" [sic] correctly.
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You'd have thought someone with his name would like all things wind-related.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Yeah, that left wing, it's all to blame, nobody could just be calling Trump the pompous ass he is without being a member of the Secret Left Wing Cabal.
Why do people make unfounded comments like this!! There is no proof that it is a cat, or that it is dead.
My theory is that it is the "thing" on his head is making the decisions....
Could you cite the particular examples of fascist statements made by Donald Trump — and explain, why you feel so about them?
Be sure to offer full verifiable quotes, rather than paraphrases, however... Thank you!
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On the subject of hypocrisy, I think that the locals are rather of the opinion that Trump's golf course has already "destroy[ed] the bucolic Aberdeen Bay".
Puts a wind farm a mile from your house.... I am sure all the cynics and comedians here would to love have about a dozen of these 300 ft. tall monsters... roaring in the background behind their home.
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Aberdeenshire and Grampian attracted
1.62 million visitors in 2011.
Palm Springs attracts around 1.5 million visitors, and it is adjacent to the San Gorgonio Pass Wind Farm, with over 3000 wind turbines!
Tell that to all the rich (liberal) folks who stopped a wind farm in Nantucket...
I get a little thrill when I see a windmill - they're so science-fictiony. Course I wouldn't want to live near one which is why they're best put in the sea, like Donald Trump.
My first impression of the windswept bucolic views of Scotland is,
"Why aren't there any fucking trees?"
Was Alba always barren of flora or did cutting down the forests in ancient times for firewood change the landscape forever into eroded coastal dunes where nothing will grow?
With the SNP ruling the country, there is actually an underspend of government taxes. Though that might be due to the Labour MP's on the FETA council that didn't approve the funding of regular maintenance of the Forth Bridge, causing it to be caused to be closed when a crack was found.
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Trump is just running interference for Hillary, and having a good time trolling the GOP base at the same time. Why doesn't anyone understand that? Any one of us would do the same, in his position.
"Slashdot sure seems to have one hell of an axe to grind with Trump."
You're not saying it right, he's Scottish, so he's Trrrrrrump.
At least with Reagan, we enjoyed decades of economic growth and foreign policy achievements which where positive. The whole world was better off with Reagan in office, even if your history text book says otherwise. I know, I was a young adult working for a living at the time.
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Slashdot sure seems to have one hell of an axe to grind with Trump.
Trump's supporters are all low-class, uneducated, white males who drive rusty pickups(*) and want to take their country back.
<MorganFreeman>Didn't you get the memo?</MorganFreeman>
This seems to be the attack narrative passed around the news sites right now: if you're a trump supporter, you're low class.
(Subtext: "You wouldn't want to be considered low class now... would you?")
Slashdot readers are highly-educated, well paid, with liberal and progressive viewpoints. Of *course* we bash Trump.
The elites have completely misread the situation and still don't quite get it. Trump's support is real, and name-calling and ridiculing is not going to change peoples' views. If you can't counter his positions with real arguments you will be ignored.
The standard attack is to take something Trump said, extend it to mean something beyond all reason, and ridicule the beyond-reason meaning. So for example, he has a war on women (for ridiculing one woman's behaviour one time), he's Joe McCarthy (for wanting a registry of Muslims), he's Hitler (for wanting to ban Muslims), and so on. I actually read an article informing me that Trump hates people with chronic fatigue syndrome (for saying Ben Carson has low energy).
One thing I *haven't* seen is a rational explanation of why a temporary ban on Muslim immigration isn't a common-sense response to an immediate problem. It's not unconstitutional, it's no less against "American Principles" than going to war on false premises, ordering the death of a citizen, or secret lists and laws. It's also fairly easy to implement - think it through a few minutes and you'll see that detection is relatively straightforward(**).
People don't seem capable of making the rational arguments, they'd rather point out how ridiculous his hair looks.
It's disingenuous, and the voters have caught on.
(*) Fair disclosure: I drive a pickup, although it's not rusty.
(**) For those with little imagination, I refer you to any of a number of people who vetted refugees during WWII, such as Oreste Pinto. His books are a fascinating read.
That wasn't approved until Kennedy was dead. So they didn't anything to him.
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
How's that?
My age is showing, but I was witness to the dismantling and removal of a research reactor which had operated for decades on the campus of the college I attended. They hauled it off in pieces and then built a lecture hall in it's place.
There is nothing to prevent you from returning a nuclear plant site to it's original form, if you really wanted too.
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We already know from the summary that Trump is not a real Scotsman.
We don't need more arguing along those lines from Trumpgnostics with a hardon for anything that feels anti-Obama to them.
Regardless how retarded it may be.
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...whether to make joke...about...trump is a wind bag...or...about....ridiculous hair blowing away...
Giant windmills constantly turning just makes scenery more awesome.
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At least with Reagan, we enjoyed decades of economic growth and foreign policy achievements which where positive.
Sure, if you were a multinational corporation or one of the 1%. For everyone else, the Reagan years brought about stagnant household income when adjusted for inflation. It was also under Reagan's regime of nearly 2 trillion in deficit spending that we switched from being the world's largest creditor to the world's largest debtor.
The whole world was better off with Reagan in office, even if your history text book says otherwise. I know, I was a young adult working for a living at the time.
This is prime trolling. +5. Would laugh again.
So some university takes exception to something Trump says on the campaign trail and withdraws an honorary degree... How's that relevant to Trump loosing in his effort to block the construction of some windmills?
Oh yea, it's bash the Republican front runner time... So he gets two demerits, for saying something un PC about some specific religion they don't like AND for being on the wrong side of the "green" movement.
I think Trump is a joke, but come on people, stop feeding him by reacting to is stupid inflammatory statements. It's clear he doesn't care about either of these things and the press coverage of them only strengthens his candidacy by keeping his name and face on the front page. PLEASE let him drift off into obscurity... Unless you really secretly desire to have him as president of the United States because if he wins the nomination, that's exactly what he will be on January 20th 2017.
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Trump is just running interference for Hillary, and having a good time trolling the GOP base at the same time. Why doesn't anyone understand that? Any one of us would do the same, in his position.
I'm about 90% sure this is what's going on. It's the most logical explanation, having been a supporter of Hillary historically.
I take offense at your suggestion I'd do the same in his position - I do have principles.
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It seems like you are under the illusion that Trump is something other than a catchphrase spouting blowhard racist 1%er who doesn't give a shit about anyone or anything but Trump. Renewable energy is important, Trumps view from his golf course isn't.
Look I'll grant you that every media outlet has a narrative whether they are trying to or not (hint though: the left's isn't the only one).
But seriously, with Trump, what is there to filter? Where is the missing narrative of the time he proposed a policy that made any goddamn sense whatsoever (another hint: yelling at somebody you don't like is not a policy)? I mean, there are people with whom I strongly disagree on how implement solutions (i.e. Cheney: I hate you but you are a clever sumbitch), and then there are complete lunatics brimming with extreme personality disorders proposing things that make a bridge to the moon sound sane.
Please tell me, what did I miss? I would honestly like to know what actual action Trump has proposed that you (or anybody) thought was appropriate, feasible and constitutional?
They hauled it off in pieces and then built a lecture hall in it's place.
When they haul it off in pieces, they don't just disappear. They have to be securely stored somewhere. And even if they can return the site to a useful state, the original claim was that it was easier to do this for a wind farm, not that it was impossible to do it for a nuclear power plant.
Much as I loathe Trump, and what his luxury development has already done to sully what was a beautiful "bucolic bay," wind farms can be a crime against, well, everything: beauty, heritage, peace, spirituality.... The peerless vista of the Slieve Bloom in Ireland somehow ended up as a site for a wind farm. The most beautiful land in the world, where the faeries live, if they live anywhere; and they went and put those huge iron towers there, destroying all kinds of magic.
My first impression of the windswept bucolic views of Scotland is,
"Why aren't there any fucking trees?"
Was Alba always barren of flora or did cutting down the forests in ancient times for firewood change the landscape forever into eroded coastal dunes where nothing will grow?
Actually, it's a long, complex story. 1000 or so years ago, Scotland was mostly forested. At the other end, the Highland Clearances in the 1700s and 1800s didn't just force most of the people out; the major intent was to clear the land for sheep farming, which had become a good income source for the landowners with the development of modern cloth-production techniques. This led to the conversion of most of the countryside to grazing land, eliminating most of the remaining trees.
But that was merely the last blow. Before that, the forests had been heavily mined for wood for shipbuilding, and for producing charcoal to power the growing factories.
It didn't help that Scotland (and Ireland) was on the edge of the tree-supporting area, with the tree line roughly along the northwestern coasts. This meant that the forests were naturally rather slow-growing, and the tree species weren't the largest. So it was easy to over-harvest them if there was any sort of profit from the wood or a more profitable use of a tree-free land area.
Do a bit of googling; you can find lots of info on the history scattered around the internet. Similar things also happened in Scandiavia, so you might look for histories of forestry there as well. But the people there were mostly along the coastlines, and the center had much taller mountains, so the forests survived a lot better than in the British Isles.
The summary is that the treeless scenery of much of Scotland isn't at all natural; it's directly attributed to human "management" of the land. There's plenty of evidence that it would have been mostly forest without its human population, at least for the past 5000 or more years as the last Ice Age slowly faded out..
Those who do study history are doomed to stand helplessly by while everyone else repeats it.
Yeah, using that logic, we should be able to build just about anything anywhere, as long as it can be torn down.
You forgot the part about it not damaging the environment while it is in use like a coal plant does. Any alleged damage (specifically to the tourist trade) caused by a wind farm is completely reversible.
Wind farms: imposing the ugliness of the city on rural areas to provide power for the people of the city.
In what way is that unlike any other power source? Besides, I equate windmills with rural areas. I have yet to see any turbines in city areas.
Sigh.... On the upside the Scots are through the centuries used to obnoxious overlords trying to tell them what to do and how to behave so they probably could'nt give a "#T% bagpipes hoot about the threats of some random yank who is trying to strong arm them. I mean seriously ? I find it particularly interesting that this man is actually trying to become the President of the United States of America... Once a country most Europeans actually looked up to and respected with great gratitude for the sacrifices the American public have made for them in the past, it is a respect that however is fading quickly in Europe thanks to the behavior of the political establishment. One can only wonder if the good people of the USA will wake up in time and reclaim their country from those that are making it look so bad to so many of their friends and help America re-find it's moral compass and rightful place in the world as a true leader... I can just say I am thankful that I have real American friends so I know the established political elite does not speak for all the people. Good luck to you America on the upcoming election, may your people choose wisely and carefully when the time comes to decide your future that holds so much promise not just for yourselves but for the world! Go deep and investigate what the established political elites are truly up to before you go and make your voice heard.
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The city of Dresden, Germany (500,000 inhabitants) has windmills on its territory. Not quite rural.
Structures built in/on the ocean aren't typically torn down. The metal superstructure would either be dismanntled and sold for scrap, or just dumped into the nearby sea if the scrap value isn't high enough. The concrete foundations would either remain, or if they're judged to be a hazard to shipping they'd be blasted into small pieces and left in the sea. I'm not sure what would happen to the fiberglass blades. They're not typically recyclable, but aren't heavy enough to sink and form an artificial reef. So they'd probably have to be transported back to shore and buried in a landfill.
Yes the damage from the coal ash and exhaust makes it pretty much the worst possible choice for power. However, for an equivalent MWe of generation capacity, the amount of steel and concrete needed to construct wind turbines is about 5x more than for a coal plant, an order of magnitude more than for a nuclear plant, and two orders of magnitude more than needed for a gas plant.
Wind is even worse if you compare based on the actual amount of electricity generated, since wind has about half the capacity factor of coal and gas, and nearly 1/4th that of nuclear. (Capacity factor is what fraction of the plant's generating capacity is actually fulfilled on average over a year of operation. Wind is around 0.25, coal and gas about 0.4-0.6, nuclear around 0.9.)
Note: I don't oppose wind. I actually support it, as its cost has come down enough that it's starting to become cost-competitive with nuclear and coal. I just try to counter the misinformation put out there by the unicorn and rainbows crowd who've convinced the public that wind, solar, and hydro have no drawbacks. Every power source has drawbacks, and picking the right one requires an honest and thorough comparison of all the real advantages and drawbacks.
"free" stuff
You say it like it's cigarettes and beer. It's fucking health care and financial assistance programs for people (you know, humans like you and I), and the transition of some of our tax burden to the mega corporations that currently pay jack shit. Disagree with the programs if you want, but don't be the disingenuous prick who reduces the whole thing to your idiot fiction of a black Friday mob of welfare mothers.
Clearly this is the best compromise.
Yeah right.
More like Donald Trump has always been a big orange jerk that puts his name on everything and who is synonymous with gaudy, gold-plated tackiness....
The fact that he is running for POTUS doesn't change anything.
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In a local TV interview he expanded on the tweet."The turbines are made in China for the most part and certainly outside the United States, but mostly in China. They are a bird killing machines, they kill birds,"
Current estimates are that windmill are the cause of 3 out of every 100,000 human-related bird deaths and are way, way below #1, windows (think "Trump Tower") and #2, domestic cats. As to the place of manufacture, at least those windmills are imported from the USA. Yes, Made in America. But the Donald has never been one to let facts interfere with a good sound byte.
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You can - and people do - decommission nuclear reactors safely. That's not the point. The point is how much it costs to do so. Nuclear reactors are really expensive to safely decommission.
Although to be fair if you include the cost of damage to the environment that coal produces, then there's no comparison, coal is far far more expensive than any other form of power.
A fool and his hard drive are soon parted.
I feel that way about nuclear. But windmills have been around hundreds of years, and have been generating power for decades. They are a blight on the landscape. The Columbia River Gorge used to be beautiful, now it all looks like this: https://carrgroup.files.wordpr...
You can hardly find an unspoiled view anymore. At night the landscape for a hundred miles looks like a giant blinking Christmas Tree, the lame kind where all the lights flash on and off in unison.
Tell that to all the rich (liberal) folks who stopped a wind farm in Nantucket...
Sure, why not? Why would it be different for one certain group of people, unless you are trying to make this a political argument to a simple technical statement.
Thanks, very interesting.
My advice to Donald would be that if he doesn't like the off-shore turbines he could plant a forest to block out the view. If his golf business suffers then he could then convert it into a game reserve!
I thought it was a brain slug
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So, the media that "keep the advertisers happy and avoid ticking off the huge corporation that owns you, your product and pays you expenses" is that same one that keeps telling the left wing narrative around? I suppose it makes sense... somewhere in some alternate dimension.
You can tear a coal plant down but the ground is poisonous for a long time.
http://www.bitsofscience.org/m...
Basically, huge amounts of soil downwind of mercury plants (and you know.. when the wind is calm, that means all immediately around a coal plant) are contaminated. It's literally too expensive to clean up. Other toxins are present as well.
Wind plant construction areas might turn out to have a similar risk but wind power plants are unlikely to have any more impact than any other normal construction.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
can't raise red flags without being called an ignorant or a pro-(something evil).
Anyone who relies on ad hominem attacks is a moron or a charlatan in regards to the subject matter.
So I encourage raising legitimate red flags, and then mocking anyone who replies with such.
2 trillion in deficit spending that we switched from being the world's largest creditor to the world's largest debtor.
You forgot the corrupt selling of arms to Iran and funding murderous terrorists in Nicaragua.
Reagan was a dreadful President.
You're not saying it right, he's Scottish, so he's Trrrrrrump.
Trump is NOT a true Scottsman. He's at best a wannabe.
Wind power production has MORE than lived up to the hype. It's the single fastest growing power source by a WIDE margin precisely because it's been so phenomenally successful and the turbines trump is opposed to are some of the most productive in the world (coastal turbines in Scotland and the north sea are under wind damn near 100% of the time). Turbines are so cost effective up there (even with the cost of sinking foundation into deep water) because the wind never stops blowing and it blows with enough force that the turbines are almost always at maximum spin efficiency.
Coastal wind power is so effective that Denmark gets nearly 60% of their power from it and Scotland could EASILY be an exporter of power to the rest of the UK if they fully built out their wind resources.
Actually, it does make sense in this dimension...
I know there are people who think the media is just in the tank for the left, that they choose sides knowingly, the Cabal mentality. I don't think it's true. I think the people in the "media" are really acting in their own best interest and within their personal beliefs. However, this tends to align them with the views of the people in power more than they and an outside observer might imagine.
Look at the choices of people working for Fox over those working for CNN, what do they cover? How is it different? Get really wacky and listen to NPR and contrast that with Fox and CNN. It's night and day what they choose to comment on and how the stories are slanted and if you forget your personal opinion for a moment and just listen to the differences in how things get reported. It's striking to me, just how slanted outlets like NPR actually are, how they feed on each other's stories, using the same words and phrases to explain their take on the story. But this is how the cheese is made, how the media feeds on itself, reinforces its perceptions and ends up generally on the left of everything because of the influence of a few.... Well, that and the politics of personal destruction and this headlong rush to be PC we are in... Oh no, you MUST have the proper views or your are stupid, bigoted, racist or a combination of the three.
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That wasn't the claim. The claim regarded the comparative ease (and therefore cost, since in business ease/cost are pretty much the same). I don't think he was commenting on the environmental impact of energy generation, at all.
Coal plants have lots of bricks/mortar/concrete, built on site boilers/turbines/etc. so they're difficult to disassemble, and it's difficult to recover the investment by moving the equipment elsewhere. There's have a large footprint to restore, usually involving rail lines.
Removing wind turbines isn't much more than a bit of unbolting (you ever see them put one up?), and moving them to somewhere else would be pretty simple. There's not a lot of infrastructure left to clean up, just some relatively compact footings (and for sea-based ones, those can probably be left in place without harm), and much of the original value can be retained.
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he wanted to build exclusive golfcourse/housing in an environmentally sensitive wetlands
so he greased some local Palms and now he's upset that the rich potential homeowners will be less likely to splurge if their pristine picturebook views are 'destroyed' by an offshore wind farm -probably the first time he's sided with environmentalists given that he has ruined a national heritage site with the golf resort
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1943873/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2
If enough people watched this it would be the end of his farcical 'campaign'
there's a follow up documentary called 'A Dangerous game' http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3714626/?ref_=tt_rec_tti
This sequel to You've Been Trumped (2011) investigates how big land developers like Donald Trump use golf as an excuse to build massive luxurious resorts on the expense of the locals and their ecosystem, and abuse natural resources.
I'm just sayin'
Devil's advocate: maybe not, if you count price.
That's because he's a lunatic with a dead cat on his head ...
I thought it was a tribble transplant.
(BTW, I stole that from someone else.)
You have unstated the difficulty in dismantling a nuclear plant. If was as easy as you claim, why would it cost about $100 million and take 5 years? There is no way that a wind farm would be that hard.
Wind turbines have the ultimate recyclability: reuse. You could easily relocate the entire wind farm to another site with less vocal neighbors.
Oh, you are talking about OLD dirty plants which don't have modern emission controls.... You can still remove the plant and make it appear nothing was ever there, mercury contamination not withstanding.
Yea, there are LOTS of things we've done in the past which we will never clean up... Take a look at what's going on around Pitcher OK. Talk about an environmental nightmare and all from mining lead, we are NEVER cleaning that one up. There are lots of scars we as humans will leave on this planet which are going to be around for a long time. Windmills, coal plants, roads and a whole host of things we've done. It's part of living on the planet.
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Trying to parse that. Is it some sort of Scottish turn of phrase?
Nuclear power plants are big things. Gas fired plants are big things too. Hauling off one is expensive because it's big. But being expensive does not mean it's impossible or impractical to do. Both Windmills and power plants can (and are) disassembled and removed... Which is all I'm saying.
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I'm sure he'll be rigging up the place with holiday lights as far as the eye can see. Arrogance is ignorance, much?
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Both Windmills and power plants can (and are) disassembled and removed... Which is all I'm saying
And nobody ever said otherwise, only that it is far easier to dismantle one than the other.
Yes, exactly like those studies that show that a special pixie dust from a naturopath cures cancer and sometimes even done by the same people!
From looking at what the "victims" all have in common it looks like redneck corrupt crony politics is the major cause of windmill syndrome. The instant cure is being able to make money from a windmill.
There's a good reason for that with the stupid charging at windmills using invented anecdotes, which is what the "studies" that show a problem all turned out to be. There are a large number of professionally run investigations into the matter that didn't turn up any problem, but those are conveniently ignored by either real or pretended ignorance.
The Harford website has a bit about radioactive waste that you probably should read instead of guessing.
The short story is lots of neutrons zipping around make everything they hit in large numbers radioactive, so there is a hell of a lot more to worry about than the fuel rods. In a lot of ways the fuel rods are easier to deal with than very large volumes of medium and low grade waste.
Typically jet engines so they are tiny in comparison.
It's hard to quantify the damage as well. What value is put on a large pit left to slowly fill with water for decades if ever?
You are comparing apples to aardvarks - wind does not fill the base load niche. Unless you have a square wave of demand with huge jumps then you need something other than base load.
The thing that will hurt Aberdeen the most is being associated with Trump!
He's crashed his own bicycle four times recently so it's a pretty good bet that he'll fail if he tries.
If reality was a novel the editor would have thrown the Trump plot out by now as ridiculous unless he was secretly working for Hillary. Unfortunately reality is full of far more stupidity than anyone would be bothered to read.
Yes. Slashdot also has an "axe to grind" with genocide, pedophilia, and cancer. Some things are universally on our shit list for a very good reason. Trump is no exception. I'm not going Godwin on this one, but it is certainly fair to say that anyone who has educated himself on the man, his history, his viewpoints, and his epic failures at the expense of hundreds if not thousands of families, is going to not really be a big fan of the blow hard. I couldn't read the title without thinking "they rejected Trumps attempts to block himself?", because anyone who doesn't know he is one of the worlds most detrimental wind farms hasn't been paying attention or lacks basic logical facilities.
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"free" stuff
You say it like it's cigarettes and beer. It's fucking health care and financial assistance programs for people (you know, humans like you and I), and the transition of some of our tax burden to the mega corporations that currently pay jack shit. Disagree with the programs if you want, but don't be the disingenuous prick who reduces the whole thing to your idiot fiction of a black Friday mob of welfare mothers.
It's not healthcare. That I could get behind. It's insurance. Insurance is not equal to healthcare. For many people it is one or the other. I know I can't afford to pay for both insurance and also get healthcare. And there is no financial assistance for people, at least not people like me. When I lost my job, I received no food stamps, no section 8 housing, no reduction in my insurance premiums, no tax credits for my insurance premiums. I got about 4 months of unemployment. Other people are apparently on it for years. There seems to be some line that determines whether you are a giver or a taker. If you are a giver and you need a handout, you are out of luck. If you are a taker, then you can be a taker forever.
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
Very similar experience at KU's research reactor-- a LEED Gold building now sits in its place.
However, the original reactor was quite tiny-- less than 100kWt IIRC. I think "cleanup" took about a week, although I didn't go back into the building for another couple years.
That said, a few tons of concrete and a little extra waste isn't exactly the same order of magnitude.
There are plenty of good reasons to oppose Trump without fabricating a charge of racism.
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So the Brits are douchebags for wanting to decrease reliance on fossil fuels? What does that make you?
And I suppose that you are the authority that decides what is valid science.
About 90% of the population of the U.S. believes in a religion of some sort, and all of the religions of which I'm aware deny science in some manner. You are proposing to prevent 90% of the U.S. population from holding public office.
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The news in my country did a segment on wind farms and revealed they were extremely loud, which can't be healthy.
You're right, watching non-credible news stories is extremely unhealthy.
If you ever see a wind farm, go in for a closer look and listen, they are less noisy than your average car and we seem to accept those every-fucking-where on earth...
I was in Dresden two months ago and didn't see any. I'm not saying they aren't there, but I spent a day in the city centre, enjoying the history and Octoberfest and don't recall seeing any windmills anywhere. Maybe the city limits extend out past the urbanised parts of town, so technically may be in city limits but are stull 'rural'.
Thanks, very interesting.
My advice to Donald would be that if he doesn't like the off-shore turbines he could plant a forest to block out the view.
Seems like an easy solution doesn't it? You don't even need a forest, a small hedge will achieve the same goal.
You forgot to inform us that wind power will slow down the rotation of the earth if we switch to it big time.
I wish I had mod points and that they still meant something. Been years since I've seen a comment so well placed. Huzzah to you.
Please... Bush may have been an idiot and very well may have been the worst president in several decades. But fascist dictator? That's a bit too far.
You are right, they are already on the premises of the neighbouring town of Wilsdruff, about 9 mls west from downtown Dresden.
I'm rational, I know my vote doesn't mean jack... whereas if you read this very comment section there are hundreds of people that believe that not only does their vote mean something, but if they could do the incredible of changing someone's mind (through insults, at that), that the two or two hundred votes mean a thing. Your vote might mean something depending on where you live, but most likely, the candidates won't even bother visiting your state let alone think of you for a nanosecond. From the perspective of someone that can't afford to buy legislature watching others in the same boat, it'd be hilarious if you guys didn't take it so seriously.
But it's great entertainment for me, so carry on picking a tribe and waging war against people that are more like you than those you defend. I've been called cynical by the very people that, once stripped of their preconceived notions (read: lost enough money to no longer be paid lip service - on both sides of the aisle; everyone is alike more than they are different, trust me), tell me how terrible the system is. You gotta' love the irony and bring a big bucket of pop corn. Chances are, if you're reading this, your vote is a waste of natural resources. If that's not your thing, your vote is a waste of your time. Once you can accept that, you can grab a bucket of pop corn and enjoy the show.
If I mod you up, it doesn't necessarily mean I agree with what you've said, sorry.
Who are these tourists he's talking about? Who are these people that can't stand the sigth of a windmill? And how do they feel about street lights, overhead electrical cables, fences, walls, lighthouses, cars and stuff? I'm serious. I'd like to build tourism in my local area and I would like to know all of the things we should try to take legal action to get rid of.
On another note, if Trump is so concerned about what people find offensive, maybe he should look into getting a $5 haircut and getting his lips surgically sealed.
You asked what's so hard about tearing down a coal plant. Cleaning up toxic waste is hard. Besides, the Minimata convention on mercury set a date of 2014 for new coal plants and 2019 (not here yet) for old coal plants to control their emissions. So basically every coal plant in the world except those finished being built sometime in the last 11 months which won't be decommissioned for a couple decades. And that's only for coal plants in nations that follow the Minimata convention. And those controls will still only stop 90% of mercury emissions and 40% of sulfur dioxide emissions. So there will still be mercury contamination. For wind, you might be left with a few concrete mooring anchors or a concrete foundation if the company goes bankrupt. And a concrete foundation would be pretty easy to clean up with little toxic risk.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
they might get so powerful, they could take us on a trip around the universe.. :o)
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"...some university.. "? This is Aberdeen University. You know, the closest city to Trump's resort. His spokesman even talks about Aberdeen Bay.
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Wind power production has MORE than lived up to the hype. It's the single fastest growing power source by a WIDE margin precisely because it's been so phenomenally successful and the turbines trump is opposed to are some of the most productive in the world (coastal turbines in Scotland and the north sea are under wind damn near 100% of the time). Turbines are so cost effective up there (even with the cost of sinking foundation into deep water) because the wind never stops blowing and it blows with enough force that the turbines are almost always at maximum spin efficiency.
Coastal wind power is so effective that Denmark gets nearly 60% of their power from it and Scotland could EASILY be an exporter of power to the rest of the UK if they fully built out their wind resources.
More in fact:
Wind power generates 140% of Denmark's electricity demand
http://www.theguardian.com/env...
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Unlike the sight of Trump in golf pants. That won't hurt tourism.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
Nuclear power plants are big things. Gas fired plants are big things too. Hauling off one is expensive because it's big.
Wrong, wrong, and also wrong. Nuclear power plants are radioactive things. Hauling one off is expensive because it's radioactive. Larger things are decommissioned for less money all the time.
Gas-fired plants are probably the cheapest of the massive plants to decommission by far, because they don't involve radioactives as do nuclear or coal, and they involve less concrete than a wind farm.
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That's actually rather cheap. In the UK our old plants are projected to take 95 years to decommission, and the final cost is not yet known. The government built the plants, sold them for £1 with the promise that decommissioning costs and insurance would be covered for the buyer, and I'd now on the hook for both.
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Also, "trump" means "fart" in northern England.
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Right got a reference for that? The reason it appears the trusses where not replaced is that it would require the bridge to be shut similar to what is actually happening right now.
So given the new bridge was incoming at the very least delaying the replacement till after the FRC was open and the FRB could be shut without causing disruption the risk modelling probably said this was the smart option.
But hey why not deflect everything away from the government who where ultimately responsible, but too busy trying to arrange and win an independence referendum with lies about how rich all the oil was going to make us, to actually get on with running the country.
I wonder what it looks like when you have to add the steel, concrete and other materials to mine the coal, transport the coal, dispose of the ash, fuel to move the coal to the "resource price" of the coal-fired power station comparison? The thing about wind is the fuel delivers itself.
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True. The racism is just the cherry on top.
"I know I will be modded down for this": where's the option '-1, Asking for it'?
Speaking of which I've got a meeting to get to.
damn! I've said too much
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
And solar panels will suck all the energy from the sun and stop plants from photosynthesizing.
When you cant win, ad hominem.
When healthcare requires insurance they are one in the same...
How can you not afford to pay for healthcare, with insurance... There are caps on out of pocket expenses.
If you lose your job and cannot get assistance than you are not required to have health insurance.... If you work part time then you would be required but you would get it free.
When you cant win, ad hominem.
So ad hominem attacks is the best you have?
Being consirned with ones own self intrest, and not that of the others is the common thread that I see with the GOP, it started with Ayn Rand:
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You can disagree with it all you want, but you get more what about me out of the GOP then you get out of the dems, we are generally about helping others.
When you cant win, ad hominem.
You're not saying it right, he's Scottish, so he's Trrrrrrump.
Trump is NOT a true Scottsman. He's at best a wannabe.
Nobody wants to be Scottish, the Scottish only accept it to piss off the English.
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This may have been true in the early 90s, but not today. The cool thing about technology is that it advances. When you hear Republicans screaming about it, turn the channel.
The poor thing about education seems to be that people are getting less and less of it.
I don't understand this hatred of the appearance of wind turbines. I think they look very striking.
To be fair, the collapse of the USSR was caused in a large part because the arms race bankrupted them outright. It's probably the only time warhawking in the USA had any pay off.
It's the same damn thing.
Every person who seems to be spouting their hatred towards "free stuff" always has some crappy example that they had it so much harder, and they never needed the free shit, so no one else needs it either. Because every person and situation is the exact same. Your house burned down, quit trying to start your neighbors on fire and how about you carry some buckets of water for your other neighbors house which is currently on fire instead of being a terrible human being.
Trump is just running interference for Hillary, and having a good time trolling the GOP base at the same time. Why doesn't anyone understand that? Any one of us would do the same, in his position.
I'm about 90% sure this is what's going on.
While on the surface, that seems a little plausible, let's not forget that the base supports him feverishly. Remember, these folks have been pandered to for years, and Trump simply represents their values. Next in line on the popularity scale is Ted Cruz. Who also represents a lot of their values. I would suggest anyone thinking of Cruz investigate his dominionist roots however.
But when your leading candidate is your opposition's greatest asset, running interference comes in a distant second place to the need to ask the question - "What the hell have we created?"
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
I always thought Trump would be pro-wind. I guess that's only if it's self-generated.
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
And you **DO** realise that not all wind turbines use permanent magnets, and plenty of research is under way to reduce or remove reliance upon them for the rest of the turbines. Coal plants will still always be coal plants. You're not too good at this "logic" thing...
Like Coal doesn't have a radiation problem too.. Shesh people... Crushing it before you burn it is pretty dangerous from a radio activity perspective.
Also, no, most parts of a nuclear plant are NOT radioactive, unless there has been some kind of abnormal event. The bulk of the plant, including the containment structure, can just be jackhammered apart and hauled away like any other kind of plant. It's not like they are all glowing blue inside or something...
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More in fact: Wind power generates 140% of Denmark's electricity demand http://www.theguardian.com/env...
That's kind of misleading. The headline give you the impression this is a constant thing. Digging down into the article, says this happened on a "unusually windy day" at 3 AM. That 140% number is a outlier at a very specific time under very specific conditions and that may not happen again - or maybe it will. However, it is not the norm.I didn't see anywhere in the article what the average was or even a mean for days where windpower alone meets all need.
In the end, the article is a propaganda piece designed to pump up wind power as a solution.
Okay thanks for pointing that out to me
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Well of course. he dares to challenge the left wing narrative around here. Of course, I don't agree with everything he says, but with the left, it's all or nothing. Violate one position, and the media burns you alive for it. Like the media, the editors having a left wing slant on the stories they choose to let through the filter.
Bwaaahhaaa. To quote the well-known 'left-wing narrative' media person known as Lindsay Graham: “Donald Trump is a complete idiot.". (here). And “Donald Trump has done the one single thing you cannot do — declare war on Islam itself To all of our Muslim friends throughout the world, like the King of Jordan and the President of Egypt, I am sorry. He does not represent us.” here
I'm not a fan of most politicians, but at least they are not helping the enemy like Trump is
The more people I meet, the better I like my dog.
You don't even understand the irony of Americans complaining about immigrants?
So basically, he really *is* tilting at windmills...
Every jumbled pile of person has a thinking part that wonders what the part that isn't thinking isn't thinking of.
Like Coal doesn't have a radiation problem too.. Shesh people... Crushing it before you burn it is pretty dangerous from a radio activity perspective.
Yes, yes it does. Coal sucks. We all agree that coal sucks, so saying "coal also sucks" when someone says "nuclear sucks" is a stupid fucking waste of time. Stop it.
Also, no, most parts of a nuclear plant are NOT radioactive,
We're not talking about those parts, stop bringing them up like they're relevant. The part we're talking about is the part that is, which is what differentiates it from cleaning up a natgas plant, or a wind farm. And it is expensive to dispose of correctly.
Every form of power has its problems. However, the only forms of power rapidly finding ways to mitigate those problems are wind and solar. Wind killed some birds, we figured out how to make it kill barely more birds than trees, and way less than houses with clear windows in them — even if you just count the houses the windmills can serve. Solar has had some problems with toxicity, modern panels are required to be landfillable without leaching toxics. Nobody has a nuclear plant that's not expensive to decommission. Nobody has got a proven way to safely store nuclear waste for the necessary time scale. Even reprocessing leaves some material behind which cannot [yet? still...] be reprocessed. I'm not against nuclear in principle, I'm against nuclear in practice. When a wind or solar farm goes wrong, the impact is minimal. When a nuclear plant goes wrong, the impact is eternal — at least on the time scale of human societies.
Coal sucks, we all know coal sucks. At the very best, burning it involves releasing sequested carbon. Let's stop. We could be making biofuels. It's not hard to grow algae. It's not hard to scrub NOx if space is not a consideration like it is on an automobile, so even using diesel generators (and running them on biodiesel from algae) would be cleaner than any fossil fuel. You can make crankcase lube out of veg oil, too. How crap coal is has no relevance to how crap nuclear is.
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Well, if you put solar panels between the sun and the plants, yes, it could happen. They did that one time in the Simpsons.
lucm, indeed.
You forgot to inform us
Who is that "us"?
I see three possible explanations:
1) you have multiple personalities
2) you lack the backbone to speak for yourself and therefore need to hide behind a mysterious group
3) it never happens that you have an idea of your own so you're automatically taking a group-thinking position
It's ok to be a sheep but next time at least try to be a funny one so you bring something to the conversation.
lucm, indeed.
For Pete's sake...
Neutron flux is pretty much non existent in the bulk of a containment structure and the parts that are close "cool" rapidly from a radio active perspective. The only time there is any significant issue is when you have a containment structure like Three Mile Island Unit 2, where the core material got out of the primary coolant loop, and where the abrupt shutdown of the chain reaction left undesired fission byproducts about that would normally be allowed to burn off by slowly reducing the power output. In the end, the difficulty of removing the materials is about the same as similar materials from other kinds of industrial plants, you just have to wait sometimes.
I assure you, the vast majority of the containment structure is totally safe to handle with the same protective gear you should use for jackhammering concrete the day after the fuel is removed from the reactor. For the rest, it's just a matter of removing the high level fuel assemblies and waiting for the containment structures to cool down radioactively. But all this is fully understood and the whole plant can be removed in time. IF that's what you want.
I watched them do just that as a college student, where they dismantled a research reactor in the nuclear engineering building, jack hammered the containment structure into little pieces and hauled it away. Nobody was wearing any special gear beyond hard hats and the dust masks you can buy at the local big box store. I think I saw film badges and a couple of guys scanning for radiation once and a while, but apparently nothing kept them from removing the huge block of concrete and building a bunch of class rooms there.
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Um... No...
Typically natural gas plants are huge boilers, just like coal plants, but use different fuel.. With the huge cooling towers and all.
What you are describing are the exception and not the rule, they are small inefficient affairs designed to provide local peek load coverage in a hurry. Being inefficient they are used as rarely as possible, but being small means they are flexible and can go from zero to full output in a very short time.
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Lets just say it this way. Industrial electrical production is a mess no matter how it is done. In fact just about ALL industrial scale operations are an environmental mess in one way or another. And let it go..
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These days, be prepared to be called a racist, even if you aren't. All it takes is opposing some political position which is tangentially related to race, or can be argued to be related. It's called "playing the race card" and it's been done a LOT by the current administration and the media supporting it.
Don't think so? What's all this hype about voter-ID laws? If I support imposing a voter ID rule, where you must show a picture ID to vote, in some circles that's considered a racist view. Or, one of my favorite examples is the guy who said "All lives matter" in response to the recent "black lives matter" movement. How's either idea racist by default?
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Where is it?
Trump's mother is a ALIEN. She is not a US citizen, and I DEMAND to see 'Donald Trump's' (if that is his real name) physical, LONG FORM ORIGINAL birth certificate.
But you know we wont see it because he is a dirty, ginger, haggis eating scottie'.
He is a plant, obviously.
He is here simply to turn america into a sheep fucking nightmare clone of the dirty island his kind come from.
He is being enabled by a fifth column that knows his dirty secret and will use it to blackmail him into supporting their causes.
Don't be fooled! 'Trump' (if that is his real name) is not American!
He is not from here but was born in the back of a burnt out Jensen in the strange foreign land of Scotland while his mother drunkenly tried to get the wheel-less car to start up to take herself 'to hospital' as these crazy foreign people say.
He wears a kilt under his PANTS! Look closely when he is giving speeches.. You will see the wrinkles and folds from it through his pants..
He tries to hide it, but this strange crazy clothing is part of his so-called 'culture'.
Don't believe a word he says unless you see his birth certificate. Then you will know the truth.
Lets just say it this way. Industrial electrical production is a mess no matter how it is done. In fact just about ALL industrial scale operations are an environmental mess in one way or another. And let it go..
The status quo is lots of coal, which even you agree is harmful. Why would I want to let it go? Why would you want to let it go? That makes no goddamned sense.
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Possibly because he is a psychopath who is trying to be the president by stirring up as much hatred and bigotry as possible to get votes?
Dude, they are all owned by the same family. The only reason there are different "points of view" on the different stations is so they can use different messages to control different groups.
Well, now that's a different subject... Why do we need to keep using coal? Because it's cheap and our competition on the world economic stage has no problem using the option to best us if they can. We must compete, or be swept into the dustbin of irrelevance, where our collective wealth will evaporate into faint memories of better times as we are plundered by those more capable.
I'm not a Ron Paul supporter, but he is right in that it is the economic might of this country which determines our place in the world. It is what we produce, the wealth we generate that matters because without it, we have no way to defend ourselves. We would have no resources to build arms, field military force and face those who would willingly dominate us by force.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it's *only* coal, or that we shouldn't be environmentally careful in our choices of energy supplies, but that we need to be looking at the bigger picture and not throwing out the cheap energy resource we have in abundance out unless we are willing and able to still compete effectively with the rest of the world. If we choose wrongly, hobble ourselves too much, and lose, we loose much more than we loose if we just burned the coal.
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Given that Trump bulldozed the irreplaceable Menie dunes Site of Special Scientific Interest to build his golf course, planting a few shrubs would be the least he could do.
When you look at what it takes to get an ID you find that for one group of people it will take them nearly all day because they have no transport of their own and the local place to get ids has been shut down.
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Yes. Now, do you realize what often happens when an arms race is bankrupting one side? War. Germany was so cooperative in getting WWI started partly because France and Russia were getting stronger faster than Germany could. (Germany had a stronger economy, but far less government centralization.)
As it happens, the Soviets fell apart relatively quietly, and I think we all owe Gorbachev and others for making that happen. That doesn't mean pushing the arms race was risk-free, or even necessarily a good idea.
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Yea, but how is suggesting a law that has no racial component immediately draw the charge of racism? Racism.the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
I submit that there are a LOT of people who think voter ID laws are a good idea because they would prevent voter fraud, people voting for others or dead people. How's that motivation racist, it has nothing what so ever to do with anybody's race? Yet they routinely get branded as such because playing the "race card" shuts down the debate because the other side sets up the straw man argument and then brands their opponent with a charge of being racist. What do you do? Answer the ridiculous charge? Most folks just clam up, not prepared for the slight of hand, caught off guard by being accused of not being politically correct.
The same tactic is used for other social issues, where the real motives of the folks on one side of the issue are substituted with a straw man made up by the other side. They did it with the Gay marriage debate, the democrats invented the "War on Women" being waged by republicans and many more.
Surely you see what I mean.. Lying about your opponent's motives is common in politics. All is not true in the rhetoric you hear..
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Lots of religions don't deny science, but rather have doctrines that cover questions that can't be answered by science. There is no scientific proof that there is no God, or that we don't have immortal souls, or anything like that. There's no scientific evidence for them, and some of them (the immortal soul, for example) are implausible by any scientific standard, but not disproven.
If a religion disagrees with science on any topic that science can cover, it's almost certainly wrong, but not all religions do.
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When healthcare requires insurance they are one in the same...
How can you not afford to pay for healthcare, with insurance... There are caps on out of pocket expenses.
If you lose your job and cannot get assistance than you are not required to have health insurance.... If you work part time then you would be required but you would get it free.
I'm not sure it is that hard to understand. It is not like the doctor's see you for free now that you are paying 4 times as much in health insurance. It's just that you can no longer afford to pay them when they see you because that extra couple of hundred dollars pad per month now all goes to paying insurance.
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
And the containment structure, and everything inside it, becomes the sort of waste I'm writing about obviously. What is it with people giving lectures on something they have not considered? Think about the process - the primary loop contains a lot more than fuel rods!
I'm not saying it's a difficult problem, just that pretending that it is not real like silly fanboys do is stupid and counterproductive. Better to consider it rationally using real information instead of running the danger of being mistaken for a silly fanboy or useful idiot.
I suggest you try to find an example of such and you will learn a little in the process.
It's anti-green to point out that small units such as windmills have an obvious niche filling in the demand curve? Really? Please explain.
My post above was about comparing things for the same purpose with each other, and in that niche windmills starting looking pretty good in the 1990s before all of the improvements and the economy of scale of the current designs.
When you look at which groups have that problem(ID places being shut) you find it is mostly one race and not the other that has it.
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One last time... While that may be true, it doesn't mean that people who support Voter ID laws are racist. They may be motivated by reasons other than race to support Voter ID laws, say preventing voter fraud...
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Ok, Research done and you and I are both right....
The most popular kind of natural gas fueled electrical generation plant is a "Combined Cycle" plant. This is where the fuel is combusted in a your turbine and the waste heat is used to generate steam that powers a secondary generator. Such plants are about 50-60% efficient where a steam only plant is 35-40 and a turbine alone is less.
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One last time.... If you do this properly and don't try to rush a decommissioning, radiation is not an issue. The tiny fraction of waste material that remains an issue is not that "hot" radioactively to start with and all you do is wait awhile and the problem goes away on it's own. The only real issue is the waste fuel assemblies, but they are not a serious problem because we have designed into the system ways to deal with this.
The *only* time decommissioning might not be possible as planed is if the plant has experienced some kind of fault where the fuel assemblies didn't stay together or if it had to be abruptly shut down. In these cases, because the toxic radio active waste wasn't able to be burned off by the continued neutron flux as happens in a controlled shutdown, they remain dangerous for centuries. Thankfully there are only really three examples of this and two which where of any consequence to public safety. In these cases, you simply wait longer, but you can still remove the plant eventually, though it may be your grand kids the complete the job...
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Even if the are motivated to increase their share of the votes I am not sure I could call them racist.
However the policies in combination are racist.
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I propose that 90% of the US population that currently holds public office be banned from holding public office.
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Unless Nuclear Engineering has changed in the last 20 years, on this subject I am well informed....
Look, They just opened the reactor where they made the plutonium for one of the first two nuclear bombs to the PUBLIC as a national park and once a year they let folks tour the "Trinity site" where the first nuclear explosion took place. Both areas where extremely dangerous less than 60 years ago, but you can walk around them safely now. Neither of these sites where planned to be decommissioned like current power plants, where we have gone to lengths to contain the real nasty bits in the fuel assemblies, which are dangerous but pretty small considering, and have systems that can safely handle them. You pull the fuel out of the core and there isn't much left that's dangerous. Most of the stuff left will be pretty safe to handle in a fairly short time, say a few years at most.
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In your view...
In my view, it is possible to support such policies and NOT be a racist at all. In fact, I wonder if the true racist in this specific discussion are those throwing the race card here. But that's a whole different argument.
My point here is that the race card gets played and people get accused of being racists who are, by definition, NOT racist. The problem for your argument is being a racist is an INTERNAL condition, it's a mind set, an attitude, a motivation, and as such is something you cannot really know in this example case. It's about *why* a person supports one side of an issue, and you have made assumptions about folks motives which you cannot accurately know. The issue has no specifics about race in it and there is a plausible non-racist motive to support it, yet you confidently claim your opponents are racist?
I don't think the charge is fair because I think your assumptions are inaccurate in at least some cases.
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I was talking about the policies in combination and not the people.
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The rules that we have to adhere to in the oil industry in the same waters is to clear the seabed to 6ft below current mudline. And I've been on rigs when we've been doing this - which sometimes involves large amounts of explosives. If you happen to be driving between Aberdeen's East (Dyce) heliport and the city centre, you'll see a sculpture made from a piece of 20in casing that has been treated this way. (Or is it 18 in? I've never actually taken a tape measure to it to check.)
Even if it weren't the law, and the area wasn't one that was regularly trawled, then the fact that the area of the wind farm is routinely used for a holding pattern for ships waiting for a pilot boat into the harbour would discourage cavalier leaving of remains on the seabed.
Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"
So more material used to construct per MWe and less full days of generation than other sources. But if you factor in that it has a free fuel source, how much would that balance out? Or zero pollution control needed, no waste storage, no long term health effetcts? Or or or... lots of factors to add up. It seems oddly skewed to only focus on those two factors.