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Filmmaker Forces Censors To Watch 10-Hour Movie of Paint Drying (ibtimes.co.uk)

An anonymous reader writes: A British filmmaker has forced the people who decide how to censor films to watch a 10-hour movie of paint drying on a wall following a protest fundraising campaign. Charlie Lyne launched a Kickstarter to help raise the money needed to send his 'documentary' of a single shot of paint drying on a wall for consideration as a protest against the 'stronghold' the organisation has on the British film industry. The BBFC charge an initial fee of $144.88 to view a film and decide what certificate to give it, and then and additional $10.15 for each minute that the film lasts. The idea was the more money Lyne could raise via his fundraiser, the longer his paint-drying film could last. The campaign eventually nearly £8,500, meaning he was able to send in a 607 minute video which the examiners had to watch in its entirety.

255 comments

  1. Pounds or dollars by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Pick a damn unit of currency and stick to it!

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    1. Re: Pounds or dollars by IBME · · Score: 1

      I'm sure his point was made but I'm also sure no one watched it in it's entirety.

    2. Re: Pounds or dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I were one of them, I would have. Especially if I'm billing BBFC by the hour. ;)

    3. Re: Pounds or dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They would have had to to give it a rating.

    4. Re: Pounds or dollars by denzacar · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Put some "obscene" and "violent" elements throughout the movie but keep it just within the allowed parameters.
      For bonus points, put some of them in audio only (a "fuck" every few hours should do), while others are single frame images.

      Then either call them out on not doing their work or have them stare at paint drying for 10 hours.

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    5. Re:Pounds or dollars by CeasedCaring · · Score: 2

      From TFA:- "the campaign raised £5,936" = approx $8500, so the summary used the right number, but the wrong currency symbol.

    6. Re: Pounds or dollars by PRMan · · Score: 1

      Exactly. You have to make sure you catch them cheating when they agree to your G rating.

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    7. Re: Pounds or dollars by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Excellent idea! Personally, I would have tossed in a rickroll somewhere towards the end while I was at it.

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    8. Re:Pounds or dollars by wardrich86 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sure thing champ!

      Initial Fee: 3235532.60 Vietnamese Dong
      Fee per minute: 226674.88 Vietnamese Dong
      Campaign raised: 272438646.75 Vietnamese Dong

      All in all, that's a lot of dong!

    9. Re: Pounds or dollars by phorm · · Score: 1

      The audio would work best. Have some guy describe the paint drying process in a very dry dialogue, with a few spots where he swears like a sailor for about 30s (in the same tone). It'd be a lot easier to catch video discrepancy than audio.

    10. Re:Pounds or dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This thread is dongs.

    11. Re:Pounds or dollars by mobby_6kl · · Score: 1

      Huh, interesting, that's just what your mom said as well!

    12. Re: Pounds or dollars by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      Instead, he should have just make a 10 hour movie of the most hyperactive 6-second vines with exactly one second of naked boob somewhere.

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    13. Re:Pounds or dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      From TFA:- "the campaign raised £5,936" = approx $8500, so the summary used the right number, but the wrong currency symbol.

      Ehhhh, it's just a unit error. When has an incorrect unit ever caused a serious problem?

    14. Re:Pounds or dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And if all you can get out of a woman is 'interesting', I would suggest that you stick with dongs. It is obvious that you do not do it for women.

    15. Re: Pounds or dollars by toonces33 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You would want to have a really dry audio track - perhaps a computer voice reading some long novel - say "Moby Dick". If the computer mispronounces some words, it wouldn't be a big deal. Except that you would slip in some swearing in the middle somewhere - spoken by the same monotone computer voice in the same speaking pattern as the rest of it.

      An alternative would be to have the soundtrack be 10 hours of a crying baby (undoubtedly a much shorter clip in a loop). Which for most people would be torture to listen to. But in the middle of it you could have an adult come in and swear at the baby.

    16. Re:Pounds or dollars by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      Air Canada Flight 143 in 1983 comes to mind.

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    17. Re:Pounds or dollars by flopsquad · · Score: 1

      This thread is dongs.

      You heard it here first, folks! THE new "it" slashdot phrase and reclaimer of the empty throne once held by "idle is pants": This thread is dongs.

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    18. Re: Pounds or dollars by TheCarp · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Every 3 minutes, have someone walk out with a stack of cards with pictures on them, and quickly flip through the pictures fast enough that they will certainly have to pause and rewind a whole bunch of times.

      Make sure to randomize the number of cards, contents of the cards, and interval between showings. Make sure lots of them contain pictures of people in skimpy clothing or body suits. Include pictures of scantily dressed hairy men.

      For maximum effect, each card should have 4 pictures on it, and be shown for less than 2 seconds max. Better yet, change the speed of flips with pauses of up to 5 or 6 seconds on one card, then flip rapidly through 5 or 6 cards....repeat.

      Then, copy the whole film, and spice the whole copy on the end, backwards.

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    19. Re:Pounds or dollars by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Who wrote this summary? Oh. Right.

    20. Re:Pounds or dollars by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Timothy is the Slashdot Glider!

    21. Re: Pounds or dollars by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Excellent idea! Personally, I would have tossed in a rickroll somewhere towards the end while I was at it.

      Or maybe some subliminal messages.

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    22. Re: Pounds or dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The BBFC don't issue G ratings.

    23. Re: Pounds or dollars by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      Include the whole video, one frame per X frames depending on the length of the movie.

    24. Re: Pounds or dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your comment is dongs bruv

    25. Re:Pounds or dollars by almitydave · · Score: 1

      From TFA:- "the campaign raised £5,936" = approx $8500, so the summary used the right number, but the wrong currency symbol.

      Ehhhh, it's just a unit error. When has an incorrect unit ever caused a serious problem?

      That never happens.

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    26. Re:Pounds or dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      at least they didn't use metric time.

    27. Re: Pounds or dollars by Golddess · · Score: 1

      Would they? Or could they have swapped out? Say, at 00:00:00 Person 1 is in the screening room. At 01:00:00, Person 2 comes in. At 02:00:00, Person 1 leaves and Person 3 enters. At 03:00:00, Person 2 leaves and Person 4 enters.

      I honestly do not know if their ratings regulations allow for such, which is why I am asking.

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    28. Re: Pounds or dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pure evil, and I like it. And, unlike most of the other suggestions, wouldn't be easily detectable via a simple script

    29. Re:Pounds or dollars by hey! · · Score: 1

      Especially if you're buying fabric. For reference, at the moment £ 1 / m^2 equals $1.20 / yd^2 at current exchange rates.

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    30. Re: Pounds or dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just don't hire Werner Herzog to do the narration. If he did, everyone would be glued to their seats, listening intensely.

    31. Re: Pounds or dollars by dwywit · · Score: 1

      Perhaps a recording of question time in Parliament?

      A speech from RMS?

      The speaking clock?

      The shipping news?

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    32. Re:Pounds or dollars by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Dong today. Dong tomorrow. Every day dong. Thread is dong too.

    33. Re: Pounds or dollars by ChrisMaple · · Score: 2

      Swapping out is no good. The obscenity is evident only in full context.

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    34. Re: Pounds or dollars by rtb61 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yet, watching paint dry still better than some of the shit movies those people have to watch. Shit, I could imagine a month into that job wanting to tear my eyes out and run screaming from the room bumping into walls and furniture on the way out. Could you imagine having to watch shitty movie, after shitty movie day in and day out. Watching paint dry would be a relief, guy in question is an idiot. Honestly If I were them I would be begging for more paint drying movies, the peace of serenity of that, after week after week of watching more often than not self indulgent shit, would be an enormous relief. I would send the guy a thank you with a request for more, perhaps grass growing, or clouds moving across the sky or water dripping into a barrel anything but another shit Hollywood reboot, oh the humanity.

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    35. Re: Pounds or dollars by unami · · Score: 1

      I don't know how that system works in the u.k., but usually there are only a handful of people who do this censoring/rating stuff. and they have to be paid anyway, so swapping them out every hour would be even more expensive. unfortunately, £8500 doesn't get you a celluloid-transfer - and i'm pretty sure, he didn't even make a dcp-conversion to force them to use a proprietary media-server for playback. so they probably just told the projectionist to fast forward through the digital file. btw., i don't get his point. bohoo, it costs about the daily rental fees for a cinema-quality camera body for a feature film to get a rating? that's definitely a big deal. reality-update: film making is really, really expensive - when you're that far that you've got a completed feature film, worth showing, in your pocket, a £1000 fee is not going to stop you.

    36. Re: Pounds or dollars by phorm · · Score: 1

      Guantanamo Henchman: Boss, we've tried every non-marking punishment we know to get information out of them, but they won't talk.
      Guantanamo Boss: What do they do
      Guantanamo Henchman: They just smile and ask for more. We've tried waterboarding, sleep deprivation, constant barrages of loud noise. We even tried Celine Dion mixed with Bieber for 24h, which is just sick! Where are these guys from, boss?!
      Guantanamo Boss: Checks paperwork. Hmmm, looks like they're from the film review board.
      Guantanamo Henchman: [peering over shoulder] Hmm, it said this guy reviewed the Avengers positively, he can't be that bad...
      Guantanamo Boss: Wait, that's the 1998 release of The Avengers. Dear lord! This man is a menace to civilized society. Get the glass rods and nail pullers!

    37. Re:Pounds or dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You shouldn't have showed her the video of you getting gang-banged.

    38. Re: Pounds or dollars by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

      Would they? Or could they have swapped out? Say, at 00:00:00 Person 1 is in the screening room. At 01:00:00, Person 2 comes in Person 1. At 02:00:00, Person 1 leaves and Person 3 enters Person 2. At 03:00:00, Person 2 leaves and Person 4 enters Person 3.

      FTFY. More fun for everyone now, and just the kind of thing the regulators are supposed to be looking for.

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    39. Re: Pounds or dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mars orbiter as well.

    40. Re: Pounds or dollars by orasio · · Score: 1

      A crying baby can be incredibly soothing to some of us, when we realize it's actually not our kid that is crying. (shamelessly stolen from some twitter guy, but true)

    41. Re: Pounds or dollars by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      Good idea. I was thinking that around the 7 hour mark of the movie where they guy from the CBC Vinyl Cafe do a slow monologue about the chemistry of paint drying. And about half-way through that have Brian Blessed take over for a sentence or two.

    42. Re:Pounds or dollars by Anomalyst · · Score: 0

      Thread is dong too.

      ZOMG! Dong v2.0 has arrived! Run for the hills.

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    43. Re:Pounds or dollars by Anomalyst · · Score: 1

      Huh, interesting, that's just what your mom said as well!

      Don't call me As well, Shirley.

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    44. Re: Pounds or dollars by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      can you hide the fuck in one of the surround channels. Does the BBFC have DST-X or dolby atmos?

    45. Re:Pounds or dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do dongs go moo?

    46. Re: Pounds or dollars by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      Naah, you want Louis Balfour from Jazz Club. Niiice.

    47. Re: Pounds or dollars by ihtoit · · Score: 1

      there are rules for submissions. Like, 1080p or 1440p still frames and LRC (3-channel) audio, in discrete digital files. The BBFC don't take submissions in 35mm print anymore (haven't for years), they only take DCP (Digital Cinema Package), the same format as used in standard theatres.

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    48. Re:Pounds or dollars by ihtoit · · Score: 1

      Mars Express/Beagle 2 (lander lost, reacquired visually several years later).
      Mars Climate Orbiter (blindsided and never emerged).
      Mars Polar Lander (sensor error mishandle caused the retro rockets to shut down, chute tore off and lander smashed to smithereens on the surface)

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    49. Re:Pounds or dollars by ihtoit · · Score: 1

      how many Happy Meals per Candlestick Park is that?

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    50. Re:Pounds or dollars by wardrich86 · · Score: 1

      Raise your dongers!

    51. Re: Pounds or dollars by WallyL · · Score: 1

      Subliminal rickrolls?

      [never gonna give you up...]

    52. Re:Pounds or dollars by WallyL · · Score: 1

      Ding dong! The witch is dead, so here comes the copyright mafia.

    53. Re: Pounds or dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Watching shitty movie after shitty movie and being paid for that? Yeah I can see myself doing that.

    54. Re: Pounds or dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sadist!!! :)

    55. Re: Pounds or dollars by Shirley+Marquez · · Score: 1

      Film making doesn't necessarily have to be expensive. £8500 is more than the entire budget of El Mariachi. There are independent filmmakers for whom the $1000 to submit the film for a rating could be an onerous burden... and that's just for ONE country.

    56. Re: Pounds or dollars by Shirley+Marquez · · Score: 1

      True. They issue U (for Universal) ratings. They mean the same thing as the MPAA G (General Audience) ratings.

    57. Re: Pounds or dollars by CynthiaFulcanelli · · Score: 1

      Rickroll is kinda old, but I like the idea. Lol.

  2. I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they were filming as they were painting... as that first scene would have been the 'action' scene of the film.

  3. An Oscar in the works? by OakDragon · · Score: 5, Funny

    It will probably sweep the Oscars... as long as it's white or beige paint.

    1. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As per the link, white paint on a brick wall. You can see a screencap and a preview on the page. I'm not sure which is which.

      In reference to the currency numbers (griped about by another), the link claims the total was £5,936, although I must be missing a cost because my simple math (with the given numbers) suggests the movie should've been 822 minutes long (+-2 minutes) using either set of numbers.

    2. Re:An Oscar in the works? by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 5, Funny

      #Blackpaintsmatter

    3. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      #AllPaintsMatter

    4. Re:An Oscar in the works? by PRMan · · Score: 1

      You mean rainbow paint?

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    5. Re:An Oscar in the works? by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      .. as long as it's white or beige paint.

      I wonder, is it entirely possible, that there was no racial bias...that all the movies selected actually WERE thought to be better than the movies not selected....

      Or, is it that today, if you have a group of movies made by minorities and non-minorities, you cannot, by merit alone have only consideration of the non-minority movies and categories.

      Do we now have to have a quota of minority movies and actors considered just to have diversity regardless of merit?

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    6. Re:An Oscar in the works? by penguinoid · · Score: 1

      .. with a soundtrack of 4'33'', repeated on a loop 133 times.

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    7. Re:An Oscar in the works? by fremsley471 · · Score: 1

      Copyright would cost too much (I kid you not).

    8. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder, is it entirely possible, that there was no racial bias...that all the movies selected actually WERE thought to be better than the movies not selected....

      ...because they didn't have blacks or latinos in them. The whole point is that it's a subjective test on whether a film qualifies. So, what are the odds that subjectively you'd exclude all films that were about blacks* that wasn't in some way racially motivated? As you say, "it [is] entirely possible" but given this isn't the first year that the Oscars have heavily snubbed minorities, the pattern here doesn't seem to be one of improbable odds.

      Do we now have to have a quota of minority movies and actors considered just to have diversity regardless of merit?

      And the reason for affirmative action? Because schools excluded attendance based on race. When they couldn't do it directly, they pushed other tests (50% of your basis to join were having a [white] parent who joined) which were just like how poll taxes and tests were designed to exclude minorities. Is it any wonder that people eventually called them out on their bullshit?

    9. Re:An Oscar in the works? by SydShamino · · Score: 1

      Once? Sure. But the same thing happened last year, and there were performances both years that those in the industry generally consider worthy of inclusion.

      That's the insidious nature of subtle racism. One event alone might look normal, or at least reasonable, but if you have enough events to show a statistical trend it can betray even the subconscious intentions of the racists. In this case, the hypothesis is that the large numbers of voting academy members added in the 1970s and 1980s, many of whom are long out of the film industry, may tend not to watch certain types of films or favor certain types of actors based on the world in which they were raised in the 1950s and 1960s. It may not be on purpose, no, but it might not represent the frame of mind that the academy wants when nominating for awards. They would rather see nominations more heavily influenced by people who are still involved in the industry, and they'd like to make sure that those people are drawing from all parts of the industry, not just the Hollywood elite. So that's what they are doing with their new rules - not creating a quota system.

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    10. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Honestly, I'd rather watch that than "50 Shades of Black" (and its only 92 minutes long).

    11. Re:An Oscar in the works? by drew_kime · · Score: 2

      You can see a screencap and a preview on the page. I'm not sure which is which.

      AC wins the internet for today.

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    12. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Paintist!

    13. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Hylandr · · Score: 1

      #PaintsMatter

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    14. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Mike+Van+Pelt · · Score: 1

      Why doesn't someone pull up the list of all Oscar winners and nominees for the past 20 years, and do an analysis on that? (Actually, I read an article where someone did, and reported that the percentage of People of Color was ... pretty much in line with percentage of population. I haven't checked their numbers independently, though.)

    15. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder, is it entirely possible, that there was no racial bias...that all the movies selected actually WERE thought to be better than the movies not selected....

      There has to be a racial bias in Hollywood. How else do you account for 2004's Soul Plane not winning the Oscar for Best Writing (Original Screenplay)?

    16. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Crispy+Critters · · Score: 1

      #blackpaintspatters

    17. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As per the link, white paint on a brick wall. You can see a screencap and a preview on the page. I'm not sure which is which.

      In reference to the currency numbers (griped about by another), the link claims the total was £5,936, although I must be missing a cost because my simple math (with the given numbers) suggests the movie should've been 822 minutes long (+-2 minutes) using either set of numbers.

      The missing cost is probably the commission charged by site he crowdsourced the money from.

    18. Re:An Oscar in the works? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      #WhatsaMatter

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    19. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      White paint? That's racist. Where's equal opportunity here. Someone call Rev Al.

    20. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      pretty much in line

      A euphemism for racist. Sounds so benign.

    21. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      #Jadablackettsmithapproves

    22. Re:An Oscar in the works? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 0

      I wonder, is it entirely possible, that there was no racial bias

      Oh yeah, it's very possible. The more than 6000-strong membership of the Academy are heavily weighted in favor of very old, white people who remember the days when Hollywood made decent family movies without all the shvoogies and the hooers showing their business every second. These are people who still yearn for the old star system when you got one black actor (Sidney Poitier) and that was it and he knew his goddamn place. They may not have a racist bone in their body, and just think that it's all OK. It's part of the privilege of being privileged that you don't have to feel like your privileged because it's always been this way.

      To be fair,there has been an effort to bring more diversity to the Academy to better reflect both the people who work in the industry and the audience. Rosario Dawson, Danny Trejo (!), Chris Tucker and Lucy Liu were all invited to join a couple of years ago (along with Jason Bateman, Jason Swartzmann, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Lance Henrikson and a bunch of other white people. So there's definitely an effort to at least make it seem a little less like it's just a bunch of old white people making these decisions. But it's going to be a while before there's enough turnover in this organization of more than 6000 people, and the Academy will probably always be about 20-30 years behind the times because that's how the organization is structured.

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    23. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder, is it entirely possible, that there was no racial bias...that all the movies selected actually WERE thought to be better than the movies not selected....

      ...because they didn't have blacks or latinos in them. The whole point is that it's a subjective test on whether a film qualifies. So, what are the odds that subjectively you'd exclude all films that were about blacks* that wasn't in some way racially motivated? ...

      So, how many NBA MVPs are white?

    24. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      pretty much in line

      A euphemism for racist. Sounds so benign.

      The true racist is the one counting awards by race.

      By definition.

      I suppose we need to put some sort of remediation in place to ensure enough sportswriters vote for a WHITE NBA MVP?

      But I bet you're just fine with nothing but black NBA MVPs for how long now?

    25. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      #PantsMatter

    26. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm more concerned why the Academy has a bias against comedy?

    27. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's possible that subtle racism is at work here (this year and last year); however, over the last 20 years, black actors and actresses have won 12.5% of Oscars, which actually does match pretty closely to demographics (~13% of the US is black). Since 2000, 80 actors have been nominated for best actor, and 10 have been black. Again, this matches demographics closely.

      According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, in the field of "Arts, design, entertainment, sports, and media occupations", 6.5% of workers are black (unfortunately, "actors" isn't split off by itself, as there aren't enough of them for the BLS to keep track separately). Since there are 20 actors nominated each year, you'd expect them to have 1.3 people nominated. Two years in a row of not having anyone nominated isn't that far off, and historically they're pretty much exactly tracking population demographics (which means that blacks, who are underrepresented in acting by population demographics, are actually slightly overrepresented in awards). If it happens again next year, then that might be evidence of racism, but so far it's not necessarily racism, although I'm not ruling it out.

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    28. Re:An Oscar in the works? by dwywit · · Score: 2

      #Whatsamatteryou

      #gottanorespect

      #whattathinkayoudo

      #whyyoulookasosad

      #itsanotsobad

      #itsaniceaplace

      #ahshutuppayourface

      Hell, play that as the soundtrack. Over and over.

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    29. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Mateorabi · · Score: 1

      13% of 20 is 2.6, not 1.3. Puts the stats a few more sigma off.

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    30. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      Note that 6.5% of actors (based on best estimates from the BLS) are black. That's where the 1.3 came from. Blacks are certainly underrepresented in acting by population demographics, that's true.

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    31. Re:An Oscar in the works? by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      That's not how it works in this country. Either blacks win 50% of the Oscars or it's blatant racism. It's got to be 50% of everything or it's racism. Facts, especially math facts, don't matter a bit.

    32. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a widely believed myth. Mike Batt eventually admitted (years later) that the whole thing was effectively a stunt, there was no legal merit to the case and the 'large settlement' was actually just a small charitable donation as a mark of respect to John Cage and to make the stunt work.
      http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/price-of-silence-and-myth-of-batt-cage.html
      http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/neilmccormick/100049693/revealed-what-really-happened-when-a-womble-took-on-john-cage/

    33. Re:An Oscar in the works? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Beasts of No Nation, Selma, Creed, Girlhood, Straight Outta Compton, Force Awakens... Those are just off the top of my head. Plenty of actors and directors who could have been nominated on merit, and which were better than some of the films that did get nominations.

      The BAFTAs gave nominations and awards to non-white people on merit. What you describe is technically possible but extremely unlikely and seemingly not the case here.

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    34. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also on a black surface? White paints are too often just friends with the black surfaces. I wonder what Public Enemy might say about this?

    35. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

      You mentioned "Force Awakens" as a possible Academy Award winner when discussing race?

      Are you mental? I loved that movie, but there were 0....ZERO...Academy worthy performances in that film, with maybe the exception of BB-8.

      Raises an important question: are robots considered minorities? What about Wookies?

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    36. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      But since Asians and Hispanics need Oscars too, does that mean they can only go to mixed-race people? Otherwise they can't all get 50%.

      Whoops, there I go with math facts again, sorry. That's ableism, I think.

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    37. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Asians and Hispanics count as white if it's important to boost the numbers (eg, Asians are white if the stat is trying to say that there are too many whites in education or programming, Hispanics are white if the stat is saying that whites commit too many crimes). Usually Asians are white when success is painted as unfair and Hispanics are white when whites being painted as responsible for all crime.

      So 50% Hispanic and 50% Black winners would probably be the perfectly diverse and ideal outcome. Most of the winners should probably be women, too.

    38. Re:An Oscar in the works? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      ...who remember the days when Hollywood made decent family movies without all the shvoogies and the hooers showing their business every second.

      But aren't those some of the very parameters that SHOULD be voted on and count highly as movies/performances that rate high...regardless of the race involved?

      You know..actual quality entertainment that isn't just there to be crass...with actual talented actors...

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    39. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, how many NBA MVPs are white?

      Are you suggesting NBA MVPs are mostly if not entirely subjective? Because otherwise, it's very apple to oranges. The other point is that the NBA is ~74% black, ~23% white, ~2% latino, and >0.5% asian. So, even the odds aren't very good for a white person to be named MVP. Having said all that, in the 2004-05 and 2005-06 seasons, Steven Nash was named MVP.

      Honestly, odds alone don't explain the results and the point wasn't that statistics were evidence of racism. It just raises the point that it's worthy of investigation.

    40. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about the J Kelly remix of 4'33"?

    41. Re:An Oscar in the works? by ihtoit · · Score: 1

      tartan. With random pink and purple polka dots.

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    42. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, how many NBA MVPs are white?

      Are you suggesting NBA MVPs are mostly if not entirely subjective? Because otherwise, it's very apple to oranges. The other point is that the NBA is ~74% black, ~23% white, ~2% latino, and >0.5% asian. So, even the odds aren't very good for a white person to be named MVP. Having said all that, in the 2004-05 and 2005-06 seasons, Steven Nash was named MVP.

      Honestly, odds alone don't explain the results and the point wasn't that statistics were evidence of racism. It just raises the point that it's worthy of investigation.

      Indeed.

      The racist makeup of the NBA does deserve investigation.

    43. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      #blackpaintsplatter

      Danger, NSFW and banned in Australia.

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    44. Re:An Oscar in the works? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      But aren't those some of the very parameters that SHOULD be voted on and count highly as movies/performances that rate high...regardless of the race involved?

      I don't think so, unless you believe the Oscars should only be for family fare. I'm not sure if you remember the movies that came out in the '70s, which was something of a golden age. These were movies that challenged those conventions and changed the way films are seen for a generation.

      The Oscars should be a measure of quality, not broad appeal, IMO. And artistic quality is a subjective measure in which culture is the only reasonable yardstick.

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    45. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      So we have to nominate various people from various minorities just so they don't complain about racism, sexism or some other -ism, regardless of whether there is any merit?

      How long 'til they have to get an Oscar just for being black, gay, trans, whatever so they don't complain about racism, homophobia or whatever?

      Fuck that. Play the race card all you want, it doesn't work anymore. After so much use and abuse of "you just do/say that because I'm $minority!", nobody gives a shit about your hurt feelings anymore.

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    46. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Pubstar · · Score: 1

      I really wish I could find the statistics, but the percentage of black Oscar winners was within 1-2% of the overall black population. So uh, I fail to see the point you are trying to make. If you don't believe me, crunch the numbers starting in 2000. It matches up.

    47. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interestingly, hyperbole aside, when the numbers are crunched, blacks are over-represented in the Oscars, Latinos are way under-represented, and Asians not at all.

      #OScarsSoBlack

    48. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As the AGW nuts will insist, "Two years is not a trend." Overall in the last few years, blacks are over-represented in the Oscars, Latinos are under-represented, and Asians not represented at all.

      #OscarsSoBlack
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    49. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/12615323_1173794395982403_710264814416196543_o.jpg

    50. Re:An Oscar in the works? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I really wish I could find the statistics, but the percentage of black Oscar winners was within 1-2% of the overall black population. So uh, I fail to see the point you are trying to make. If you don't believe me, crunch the numbers starting in 2000. It matches up.

      Yes, I wish you could find the statistics too. It's a shame that there's not some way we could look up information like this:

      Since the Academy Awards was founded 85-years ago:

      Only one woman of color (1%) has ever won the Academy Award for Best Actress
      Only seven men of color (9%) have ever won the Academy Award for Best Actor
      Only one woman (1%) has ever won the Academy Award for Best Director

      Now I don't know what your "within 1-2% of overall black population means", but I don't think it means what you think it means.

      http://www.ibtimes.com/oscars-...

      [note: the percentages are actually a bit smaller, because these statistics were as of one year ago, when no people of color were nominated. This year, no people of color were nominated again, despite there being several performances of note that would have garnered nominations if the actor had been a white actor.]

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    51. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure if you remember the movies that came out in the '70s, which was something of a golden age. These were movies that challenged those conventions and changed the way films are seen for a generation.

      That is orthogonal to whether those movies had "shvoogies and the hooers showing their business every second"

      Oscar Best Winners for the 70s

      Patton (1970)
      The French Connection (1971)
      The Godfather (1972)
      The Sting (1973)
      The Godfather Part II (1974)
      One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)
      Rocky (1976)
      Annie Hall (1977)
      The Deer Hunter (1978)
      Kramer vs. Kramer (1979)

      Which one of those broke away from the expectations of "very old, white people"? The actors were still mostly white. You can question the conventions of society without stuffing your film with non-whites.

      I also can't help but notice that the subject of most of these films are men - their battles, their friendships, their struggles. A couple films dealt with women and relationships, but mostly from the perspective of men. Sounds very in line with what very old white people want out of a film.

      Kramer vs Kramer in particular is basically a love letter to MRAs. Or maybe that's where MRAs got all their talking points from about divorce courts.

      The Oscars should be a measure of quality, not broad appeal

      Well, quality does not care about racial ratios. I think you're arguing on the wrong side.

    52. Re:An Oscar in the works? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying that the Oscar winners in the '70s were the films that challenged the status quo, but rather that the movies that came out in the '70s did so.

      Of course the Oscar winners were all movies that celebrated the status quo. The Academy was even less diverse in the '70s than it is today.

      And if you really need a list of movies from the '70s that challenged the status quo, then you don't know anything about movies in the '70s.

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    53. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      #PaintsMatter

      #PaintSmatter

    54. Re:An Oscar in the works? by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Blacks are certainly underrepresented in acting by population demographics, that's true.

      Is that way Samuel L Jackson is in practically everything?

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    55. Re:An Oscar in the works? by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      Yep, him or Morgan Freeman.

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  4. Censors must have been delighted by ickleberry · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No hard decisions, even if they had to 'watch' it they could just sit around chatting with coffee. It is a nice idea to DoS the censor's office but this method that involves horsing 8,500 quid straight into their pockets is not the way to do it

    1. Re:Censors must have been delighted by lectos · · Score: 1

      It should have been 607 minutes of paint drying on an erect penis.

    2. Re:Censors must have been delighted by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      If you have an erect penis for more than 4 hours, you should consult your doctor ... says so right in all those Viagra commercials.

      That would be priapism, and likely would have gotten him a different rating for the film.

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    3. Re:Censors must have been delighted by CreatureComfort · · Score: 1

      If your erection lasts for more than four hours...

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    4. Re:Censors must have been delighted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's said that you should contact a doctor if it lasts more than four hours.

    5. Re:Censors must have been delighted by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Yeah, what kind of crap is this? And besides, nobody can prove they sat through anything.. Eh, easy money, from another fool

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    6. Re:Censors must have been delighted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but if 10,000 people did this with 30 minute films... Still not cheap for an individual, but less expensive and would really DoS the censor's office at that point. Of course, then they'd probably raise their fees and create an obscure rule or law that would fine people.

      They still need to watch it, especially at $610/hour, they better damn well be watching it. What happens to the censors if they miss something? If they are sitting around chatting with coffee they will miss something.

    7. Re:Censors must have been delighted by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Someone either has to prove it, or live with being wrong ...

      So if I gave you 9.75 hours of paint drying, and 15 minutes of hardcore porn, and you give me a rating which says "anybody can watch this", then it's your ass on the line when someone discovers the 15 minutes you missed.

      I'm just going to say "this is what I submitted, if they didn't look at it, I can't be blamed for that".

      I'm pretty sure those people pretty much have to watch everything, or it's them who gets in trouble for having missed something.

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    8. Re:Censors must have been delighted by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 1

      Of course, then they'd probably raise their fees and create an obscure rule or law that would fine people.

      Under what authority would they be able to fine people? The BBFC is a non-governmental agency.

    9. Re:Censors must have been delighted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Should have been 10 hours of busy beach footage in which at 3 or 4 points someone walks through the corner of the frame with a necessary piece of their garment missing. That would be next to impossible to sensor.

    10. Re:Censors must have been delighted by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      True but if you are looking to cause their down fall you stick a few single frames of the old goatse.cx somewhere in the middle. If you still get your 'G' or whatever 'appropriate for children' rating the BBC gives, you got a major scandal, "see see the censor's don't even really do their job its just a cash grab!"

      Wost case its just as effective a DOS as this was anyway.

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    11. Re:Censors must have been delighted by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Well, they're still getting paid to watch movies, not a bad gig. The idea was pretty dumb. It does nothing to diminish the power of the censors. If a backlog develops, your film will just have to wait until they get around to it, could be weeks or months. So in effect the gag will backfire. And even if you were dozing, that 15 minutes of porn will wake you up, especially if there is any audio.

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    12. Re:Censors must have been delighted by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Somehow I doubt the censors get to pick and choose based on boring. They get a submission, they have to review it.

      Watching movies as a living may not sound like a bad gig, but I'm sure there's some epic bad (atrocious/terrible/disturbing) films out there which can't be unseen.

      I'm sure it's not quite so cushy as it seems.

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    13. Re:Censors must have been delighted by qeveren · · Score: 1

      *shrug* They probably just played it accelerated. Playback at 10x and you'd still catch anything significant stuck in there.

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    14. Re:Censors must have been delighted by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Bullshit ... assume I spent 1 out of every 100 minutes screeching obscenities without changing the picture.

      Fast forward doesn't solve the problem, and when people find the 60 minutes of be saying this stuff, whoever said "yeah, boring, whatever" is going to get caught.

      The problem with this job is you have to watch all of it, or some smart ass WILL put something in which catches you out.

      You literally have to see and hear every second of the film, and attest that you have. Or you have no idea of what you missed.

      All it takes is me reciting George Carlin's "7 deadly words" ONCE in that, and if you gave it a rating which says it's got no offensive content shows you rubber stamped it.

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    15. Re:Censors must have been delighted by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

      If you have an erect penis for more than 4 hours, you should consult your doctor ... says so right in all those Viagra commercials.

      That would be priapism, and likely would have gotten him a different rating for the film.

      Special effects magic.

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    16. Re:Censors must have been delighted by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      It wouldn't DoS anything, if the number of submissions goes up they will expand to cope with the increased demand.

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    17. Re: Censors must have been delighted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If your penis has been erect for more than four hours, it's time to rotate in a relief receiver, as the current one surely needs a break. -PCP

    18. Re:Censors must have been delighted by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      You could always run it at 1/10 speed.

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    19. Re:Censors must have been delighted by fisted · · Score: 1

      If only someone invented a way to visualize an audio track.

    20. Re: Censors must have been delighted by IBME · · Score: 1

      Those people as you put it are under no obligation to do shit all. I'm confident even they figured it out very quickly and said nope and moved on. Why? Because they can.

    21. Re:Censors must have been delighted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, their project is dumb. Scanning this movie for times when it isn't soundless paint drying is trivial for a computer to do on both the audio and video side of things. It'd take me about 2 hours to code and less than 10 minutes to run. I'm sure there's people on here who can do it faster. The censors only need to contract out for such a program or DIY.

    22. Re: Censors must have been delighted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Make them earn it the hard way.

    23. Re:Censors must have been delighted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      20 years ago I worked at a TV station, and we recorded the incoming programs onto professional video cassettes for archive and broadcast. We needed to watch for quality and content. Needed to bleep or blur out problematic content. Working 3rd shift I was able to get a lot done by transferring "Leave it to Beaver." Only needed to watch and listen for technical glitches, which are easy to spot or hear. I could run two at once and not worry about missing a swear or exposed body part. Once dubbed, mark commercial breaks and submit.

  5. Side boob by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It should have been body paint on a side boob. Then at 606 minutes pan out to alllllllmost the nipple.

    1. Re:Side boob by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      But, if you save that for the directors cut, then they will be the ones who really look like boobs.

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  6. Dying of suspense... by xdancergirlx · · Score: 1

    What rating did it receive?

    1. Re:Dying of suspense... by bfpierce · · Score: 5, Informative

      "The BBFC confirmed it had awarded the movie a U certificate along with a note warning that the description of the film "may contain spoilers". It also read: "Paint Drying is a film showing paint drying on a wall. It contains no material likely to offend or harm.""

      From the TFA. I thought the response was pretty good.

    2. Re:Dying of suspense... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The BBFC confirmed it had awarded the movie a U certificate along with a note warning that the description of the film "may contain spoilers". It also read: "Paint Drying is a film showing paint drying on a wall. It contains no material likely to offend or harm.""

      From the TFA. I thought the response was pretty good.

      So, they missed the dick pic at minute 505?

    3. Re:Dying of suspense... by Dragonslicer · · Score: 4, Funny

      They could have turned it into an M. Night Shyamalan movie:

      What if the paint never dries???

      What if it turns out that the paint is really aliens from the future???

    4. Re:Dying of suspense... by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      Gotta admit - they did respond with a bit of class.

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    5. Re:Dying of suspense... by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      What if it turns out people saw M. Night Shyamalan as being involved and decided they don't give a crap what the movie is?

      Because, really, that's what I do these days.

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    6. Re:Dying of suspense... by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      What if the paint is really... PLANTS!

    7. Re:Dying of suspense... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They're British. It's almost a foregone conclusion.

    8. Re:Dying of suspense... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He should have thrown in one second of R-rated material somewhere in the mix. So he could see if they actually pay attention to the movie and if they would give it the appropriate rating.

      I guess licensing 10 hours of hypnotoad was too expensive.

    9. Re:Dying of suspense... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At the very last minute, suddenly there was a minute to fap porn.

    10. Re:Dying of suspense... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and soylent green is made of people?

    11. Re:Dying of suspense... by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      What if it turns out that the paint is really aliens from the future???

      Shhh! That's going to be Moffat's big finale for Doctor Who.

    12. Re:Dying of suspense... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This summer...

      Get Ready For A World Of Pain... t

    13. Re:Dying of suspense... by WallyL · · Score: 1

      And its sequel: Lead Paint, rated PG so the young ones don't stick it in their mouths.

  7. They never knew by mdsolar · · Score: 5, Funny

    They were watching the inverse Laplace Transform of subliminal porn.

    1. Re:They never knew by xtal · · Score: 1

      Hah!

      Best /. humor in ages. Well done.

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  8. they got the joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The BBFC confirmed it had awarded the movie a U certificate along with a note warning that the description of the film "may contain spoilers".

    Somebody at the BBFC thought it was funny, and responded with a joke of his own.

    Tomorrow they go back to censoring.

    Waste of money.

  9. Fast forward by jlv · · Score: 1

    Does it really need to be watched in real time?

    1. Re:Fast forward by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      so some does not splice in porn.

      Like that guy used to do the change over theater up till about 2011 when we got rid of film there.

    2. Re:Fast forward by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You can't truly appreciate the nuance of paint drying without watching it in real time, everything else is just being a poseur to impress your art-house friends ... but they'll know you just fast forwarded ... they'll know, man.

      The heart-wrenching existential agony at 3h52 minutes when the paint crinkles like an adolescent nipple blown with soft, warm breath for the first time can't be fully appreciated in anything but real time.

      The suggestion of human suffering at 5h57 when a small droplet forms is utterly lost in anything but real time.

      The utter elation at 9:37 when you realize, finally, we are reaching denouement and resolution can't simply be watched on fast forward.

      You lose all of the majesty and vocabulary as envisioned by the film maker in his Neitzchean expression of the inhumanity of paint as a metaphor for moving past obstacles, and stepping over the carcasses of ones foes.

      Of course it needs to be watched in real time.

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    3. Re:Fast forward by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      As someone pointed out, he could have spliced in non-G-rating audio at a certain point. For example, at 5 hours and 47 minutes, a single curse word might be uttered. Then, at 7 hours and 23.5 minutes, perhaps he'd have XXX-rated audio play for 3 seconds.

      If the censors still give the movie a G rating, then it's obvious that they didn't watch it all (either fast-forwarding through it or watching the first few hours and then stopping).

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    4. Re:Fast forward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Damn it! Where is that -1: Spoilers when you need it?!

    5. Re: Fast forward by IBME · · Score: 1

      Yea well you apparently have never envisioned a lecture compressed into a single moment. That is art.

    6. Re:Fast forward by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Spoken by someone who has apparently never watched paint dry. Drips form quickly, basically almost immediately or soon after. You won't get one an hour later, let alone after 5. Wrinkles--and any other action--would happen in the first half hour, tops. After that, it might be a subtle change in sheen, or a little bit of blown debris that sticks, but that's it.

      Confession: I once started a project called "Watching Paint Dry, and Other Adventures," which literally included a journal of my experience doing the titular deed, watching toasters toast, watching water boil, waiting in an airport, being stuck in traffic, etc. It was pretty funny, really, but it never made it past rough draft. But anyway that's immaterial to the discussion. I've painted a few houses and bits of furniture, and that's enough to know how it works.

    7. Re:Fast forward by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      LOL ... +5 insightful? Really?

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    8. Re:Fast forward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slow forward: watch the film in one minute clumps. Pause frequently, have a time sheet where you say "yea, minute X is rated G, minute Y is rated G, minute Z is rated G" and so on.

  10. So the protest... by Junta · · Score: 4, Funny

    Was to give them 8,500 pounds to have them claim to watch the whole thing? Even if I didn't fast forward, that's still pretty good for 10 hours of work.

    I wish someone would protest me that nicely. I'd really learn something. Feel free to repeatedly protest me.

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    1. Re:So the protest... by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      no shit - even 10 people watching it simultaneously could rake in up to 85 Pounds Stirling per hour (minus administrative costs, overhead, etc)... not a bad rate of pay.

      What's a man gotta do to get into that racket?

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    2. Re:So the protest... by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      This would probably be an easy, albeit boring, watch for them. Some of the shit that comes out of Hollywood (and other places) can actually be horrifyingly bad. Paint Drying would be BAFTA-winning material in comparison.

    3. Re:So the protest... by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      This was probably pretty easy for them. Apparently they have two people watching the movie, and they discuss it afterwards. They also watch it in "cinema-like" conditions, which I guess means they also have a projectionist.

      The price is probably worked out assuming that there are going to be a lot of controversial films, that need long reports, management sign off, discussion with the film-maker over what needs to be cut to get a rating and the potential for appeals.

      None of this really applies here.

    4. Re:So the protest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They should have done the reverse. Instead of hours of exactly the same thing they should have had *every frame different*. E.g. 10hrs=864000 frames of totally random shit with just a handful of hard-to-spot obscene frames. They'd have to watch the whole thing at about 1/10th speed = 100 hours to get any chance of spotting the porn frames and the constantly changing image would give them headaches... and then add a horrible screeching soundtrack that hurts to listen to even at low volumes (fingernails on blackboard?) with occasional softly-spoken obscenities.

  11. uh-huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >which the examiners had to watch in its entirety.

    Sure they did.

    1. Re:uh-huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >which the examiners had to watch in its entirety.

      Sure they did.

      an unpaid intern had to watch it.

  12. Tamper-proofing by Daetrin · · Score: 1

    At semi-random intervals they should have inserted a couple frames of stuff that would actually need to be rated, to prevent the censors from just fast-forwarding or skipping large chunks, which i suspect is what actually happened.

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    1. Re:Tamper-proofing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Totally second that. Random frames with pictures, something that takes a lot more than 10 hours to watch. That would be DoSing the system.

    2. Re:Tamper-proofing by theIsovist · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My friend used to do this job for Turner networks. His job was to watch content set to air in foreign countries and document every moment that needed to be flagged due to censorship concerns. "At 0:52:13, use of the word 'fuck.' At 0:55:43, exposed nipple..." If he ever missed anything, he would have been fired, so he had to watch every second of the film. If he became distracted, he would have to rewind. Apparently he loved this job. It sounded miserable to me.

    3. Re:Tamper-proofing by fisted · · Score: 1

      No it would not. All it would take is one marginally competent person to analyze the audio and the video feed by something less stupid than "watching the whole thing in real time".

    4. Re: Tamper-proofing by IBME · · Score: 1

      Good thing then they get payed a lot more to do a hell of a lot less.

    5. Re:Tamper-proofing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like an awesome job to me, as long as you get to take a lot of breaks, or at least get to watch several movies at once.
      That way I could watch one hour of one movie, then one hour of another movie, etc. That way I think I'd be able to maintain focus better.

    6. Re:Tamper-proofing by antdude · · Score: 1

      DId he get paid well at least?

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    7. Re:Tamper-proofing by ihtoit · · Score: 1

      864,000 frames of hte same thing would be easy to filter. The few dozen remaining frames of cock-in-ass and lesbo action would thus be easy to spot as they'd be all that's left.

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  13. I can sympathize by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I watched The Man Who Fell to Earth last weekend.

    1. Re:I can sympathize by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Then a great film was lost on you. The Man Who Fell to Earth is a brilliant minimalist sci-fi film with critical allegories of consumerism and resource-consumption.

      If Paint Drying could be compared to any other films, they would be those made by Andy Warhol, such as Sleep and Empire. However, Warhol's films arguably had more action.

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    2. Re:I can sympathize by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      I'm a huge Bowie fan, I saw it at the drive in 40yrs ago. It didn't make much of an impression on me, all I can remember about it is that I wanted to see midnight express but was out-voted. IMO midnight express is still a better movie.

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  14. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Torrent anyone?

  15. Awesome compression potential by danceswithtrees · · Score: 1

    I would imagine being able to encode this video with a ridiculously low bitrate and still achieve great pictures, albeit at low framerates. I would imagine most people would not be able to tell the difference however. 10 hour video, 1080p encoding for 10 MB?

    1. Re:Awesome compression potential by jbeaupre · · Score: 1

      Possibly far less. Most of it header stuff. The actual video stream could consist of: #ffffff

      3 bytes.

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    2. Re: Awesome compression potential by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would mess up the quality you get with an analog stream.

      Next you'll put the audio in mp3.

    3. Re:Awesome compression potential by godrik · · Score: 1

      You can not compress such a piece of art. The real cinephiles will see the difference with their gold-plated HDMI cables!

    4. Re:Awesome compression potential by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was compressed when they watched it. No one noticed it was a JPG.

  16. Gotta say it by dargndorp · · Score: 5, Funny

    Still a better love story than Twilight.

    1. Re:Gotta say it by sacdelta · · Score: 2

      Of course it is. A 10 hour epic about the slow development of a lasting bond.

      I'm looking forward to the sequel set 10 years later when after years of having the world eat away at that bond, the wall replaces the paint for a newer version.

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    2. Re:Gotta say it by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      Hannibal was a better love story than Twilight.

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  17. MPAA is market-driven by GWBasic · · Score: 1

    In the US, the MPAA is market-driven. As much as I don't like it, theaters stick with the MPAA guidelines. This is because theater owners hate getting calls from angry mothers about their 13-year-olds sneaking into particular movies.

    1. Re:MPAA is market-driven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the USA, film rating is voluntary; there is no legal requirement to get the MPAA to grade your film for public viewing. The British don't have the freedom to do this. Even posting a video to Youtube in the UK can require a BBFC rating.

  18. Even as a protest by bobbied · · Score: 1

    This was NOT helpful...

    What a waste of money. If you don't like the rating system, distribute your material in other ways..

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    1. Re:Even as a protest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This.

      While the story is amusing it really misses the potential points of reasonable protest. So we get the punchline of a funny joke and everyone else gets to shrug while life goes on.

      Meh.

    2. Re:Even as a protest by jbmartin6 · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure what you mean by 'distribute your material in other ways'. In the UK, any video offered for sale must be rated by this body. It doesn't matter how it is distributed. I think that is part of what they are protesting.

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  19. YouTube? by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    Is it on YouTube? I wanna watch it.

    1. Re:YouTube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt it would be the first such video on Youtube.

  20. In very related news by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    Charlie Lyne is an utter prick.

    1. Re:In very related news by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      The above post has been rated E: Exempt from rating for educational and factual purposes.

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  21. Did they stick something salacious in the middle? by fredrated · · Score: 1

    They should have put something to censor in the middle, for a few seconds. That way they could tell if the censors really did their job and watched it carefully.

  22. Stupid PR Stunts Change Nothing. by westlake · · Score: 1

    A British filmmaker has forced the people who decide how to censor films to watch a 10-hour movie of paint drying on a wall following a protest fundraising campaign.

    Does viewing the film imply viewing the whole of it in real time --- or that it can't be broken down into smaller, more manageable, pieces that can be screened independently?

    The easiest way to put an end to stunts like this is to blandly give your grass-growing documentary an inoffensive rating without any further comment.

    1. Re:Stupid PR Stunts Change Nothing. by jbmartin6 · · Score: 1

      That is precisely what they did.

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  23. No he didn't. by truck_soccer · · Score: 1

    All he did was film paint drying. The censors did what they get paid to do, and went about their daily business.

  24. Easiest money ever made by Trachman · · Score: 1

    Just put a web camera towards projection screen and set to detect and record motion movement.

    If there are no changes, no exceptions, no hidden "frames", to this incredibly dull movie, motion movement recorder will have zero footage to review.

    $600 per hour and 10 hour movie? Hell, I would be more than happy to take view the movie and sleep at the same time. Or clean the house.

    1. Re:Easiest money ever made by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      $600 per hour and 10 hour movie? Hell, I would be more than happy to take view the movie and sleep at the same time. Or clean the house.

      Except you can't, because if he puts five seconds of a guy with full frontal nudity screaming racist and scatological tracts while holding a picture of Mother Teresa, the movie has to be rated differently, and you better have caught that part.

      And I assure you, even on fast forward, looking for a needle in a haystack like that takes forever and is almost as mindnumbing. The only way to get through that sort of film is to watch parts of it with many breaks.

    2. Re:Easiest money ever made by fisted · · Score: 1

      You could try reading the comment you're replying to.

      That said, using a motion detection camera is much more trouble than trimming the audio track of silence and detecting spikes in the video bitrate. Maybe they have a computer somewhere in the basement..

  25. Did that to Sony once... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    When I worked as a lead video game tester, I was required to record a complete play through of the game on VHS tape. Normally, this would take eight hours. But the developers changed the next to last level prior to the final boss level that made it nearly impossible to go through without using any cheats. I flagged it. The developers didn't fixed it. I sent two video tapes to Sony with the eight hours of the complete play through and the eight hours of dying-and-reloading from save point for the next to last level. And then my boss yelled at me for not coming into work the next morning after working 40 hours straight to meet the code release deadline.

  26. Hidden Cursing by TheDawgLives · · Score: 1

    Please tell me he had someone walk behind the camera swearing profusely at around the 8 hour mark! The he could tell by the rating if they watched the whole thing...

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  27. As if paint drying is bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sure there are better ways to spend 10hrs, but I have to imagine that the censors have see movies that are FAR WORSE than simply paint drying.

    Paint drying may be boring, but not bad. We all know a bad movie, bad even beyond funny. Just downright terrible. Those have to be far worse than watching paint dry. Imagine if we was able to stick a video camera on the main slaughter line at a slaughter house for 10 hours.

    1. Re:As if paint drying is bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We all know a bad movie, bad even beyond funny. Just downright terrible. Those have to be far worse than watching paint dry.

      Oh, so you saw Jupiter Ascending too?

    2. Re:As if paint drying is bad... by fisted · · Score: 1

      Why would they have to continue watching after encountering content that justifies the worst rating?

  28. Harmless. by tekrat · · Score: 1

    In an updated review, the film's rating was changed to "Mostly Harmless"

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  29. Watched or scanned? by ramriot · · Score: 1

    But did the BBFC really watch all 10 hours, or just use run it a high speed looking for a scene change. If it were me making this film I would definitely have put in some siliceous scenes of single or double frames (1/24s. 1/12s) with perhaps the occasional obscene word displayed subliminally (5% contrast) to see if they are on their toes.

    If not, then HEY we just got smut past the censors, WIN!

  30. Art project: film the censors watching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As an art project someone should have filmed the film censors watching all the 607 minutes of the film. This could then be shown in galleries and museums.

    This could turn into the start of a very nice recursion ...

    1. Re:Art project: film the censors watching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Already been done, sort of. See the Shia LaBeouf stream of him watching his own movies. It was weirdly entertaining, especially when he watched the later Transformers sequels.

  31. Funding British censorship by Torodung · · Score: 1

    I'm sure the BBFC has done worse and more mind-numbing things for funding than that. In the end, you simply gave the censors more money, dude. Easy money.

  32. Oh noes! by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    The campaign eventually nearly £8,500,

    But then they accidentally the whole thing :-(

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  33. Maybe they already did this but... by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 1

    They should stick a small section of hardcore pornography somewhere in the middle, to make sure that the censors actually watch the whole thing. If it comes out rated G, then you know they skipped it. Or better yet you can claim that they rated it G because they want kids to be exposed to hardcore pornography because they hate children.

    1. Re:Maybe they already did this but... by fisted · · Score: 1

      Okay now i'm getting tired of this. See above.

  34. List by Torodung · · Score: 1

    From the web:

    Surprising omissions from the actor race this year included Idris Elba for “Beasts of No Nation,” Will Smith for “Concussion,” Michael B. Jordan from “Creed” and the many young actors in “Compton.” link

    Will Smith was fantastic in "Concussion." I didn't see Idris Elba in "Beasts of No Nation," but I'm going to rent it just to thumb my nose at the Academy. No interest in "Rocky VI" (ahem) "Creed," but I think Stallone got nominated for his performance in that one. It seems to me he's milked all the Oscars he should get out of "Rocky." Were the leads up to the same level? Don't know. "Straight Outta Compton" is another one I mean to hit in rental. No idea if it was any good, though.

    Seems suspect. Insidious, isn't it? Definitely worth talking about. Quotas are probably the wrong way to go, though. Public shaming is fair game.

  35. To those questioning if they REALLY watched it by Merk42 · · Score: 1

    The filmmaker should have filmed them watching it, then submitted THAT film shortly afterwards.

  36. I can't wait by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    I can't wait for this to come out on DVD.

  37. the ultimate troll by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    I'd add 1 second of a swear word on screen somewhere inside the movie and if they didn't catch it, never let them hear the end of it.

  38. DHI missing the point again.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DHI, this is not Amnesty international, nor is it yahoo news..

    Please put your glasses on and see what your really putting out there??

  39. Do the Fight Club thing by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 1

    and randomly insert single frame from pr0n film into that 10 hour paint job.
    Let's see how many they can catch...

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    1. Re:Do the Fight Club thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and randomly insert single frame from pr0n film into that 10 hour paint job.
      Let's see how many they can catch...

      Easy.

      1. Frame grab the whole thing.
      2. Remove all duplicates (at some threshold).
      3. Watch what's left.
      4. Profit!

    2. Re:Do the Fight Club thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it just takes one frame of porn to x rate the movie, morons.

  40. At like the 400 minute mark... by JargonScott · · Score: 2

    They should have blasted out the Inception sound.

    BWWWWOOONNNNGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!

    Then everyone shits their pants and has to sit there for the remaining 200 minutes.

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  41. I'll watch paint drying. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you pay me >$600/hr, I'll watch any damn thing you want. I'll watch your grandparents having sex. Hell, I'll watch my parents having sex, though I don't know what you're going to do for the other 58 minutes.

  42. All the same to me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I can rub one out while watching "The Biggest Loser", then I can rub one out to "Paint Drying".

  43. Forces? by DrXym · · Score: 1

    The BBFC has reviewed hours of excrutiatingly boring content. Training videos, craptastic straight to video movies, soft porn, religious devotionals, videos of fireplaces and fish tanks. I bet 95% of the content they view is deadly dull. But they're paid by the hour to review it and I doubt it fazes them one bit. I doubt they especially care if they're paid to watch paint dry. Big deal. It gets a rating and then onto the next thing.

  44. Use CCTV footage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's very easy to just fast forward paint-drying film and give it 'for everyone' rating. If they sent CCTV footage for 10 hours and have a naked person walk in front of the camera at one point, they would have to actually watch it.

  45. Stronghold? by BenJeremy · · Score: 1

    ...or "stranglehold"

    Maybe it's one of those British-speak things, like boffins or wollygigs?

  46. One a related note, the copyright violation for by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

    using John Cage – 4’33 as the soundtrack has so far gone unnoticed. With 10 hours of repeated looping of the song he could be in for a big civil settlement.

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    1. Re:One a related note, the copyright violation for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Myth, now debunked:
      http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/price-of-silence-and-myth-of-batt-cage.html
      http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/neilmccormick/100049693/revealed-what-really-happened-when-a-womble-took-on-john-cage/

  47. $10 a minute? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

    At $10 a minute I expect the censor who had to watch the paint drying probably laughed through most of it.

    1. Re: $10 a minute? by IBME · · Score: 1

      The real question is where can one get this film to peruse the subtler details at ones leasure?

    2. Re:$10 a minute? by ttucker · · Score: 1

      Yeah, talk about the easiest $600/hour they have ever made.

  48. Software can Detect Scene Changes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    VirtualDub can do it by fast forwarding. When enough of the image changes (say a hard cut) it automatically stops. Whoever watched it could fast forward through it.

    Of course, they could have just dubbed over some offensive audio I suppose.

    1. Re:Software can Detect Scene Changes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a Windows only Program. Expand your Horizons, please.

  49. Wardrobe malfunction by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

    In the USA, film rating is voluntary

    Yes, but the FCC is not, both the BBFC and FCC impose obscenity rules on broadcasters, both can levy large fines for non-compliance. Censorship exists in every nation, if you doubt that then try broadcasting kiddy porn from anywhere on earth. There are limits to freedom of speech around the world (even in the US), some are for common-sense, some for common decency, and far too many for political gain.

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  50. Mystery Science Theater 3000 by Anubis_Ascended · · Score: 1

    So, the film-maker was Dr. Forrester, and the censors were Joel, Tom, Crow, and Gypsy?

  51. Warhollian Tribute! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wacky Delly did it 20 years ago!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b_polwFplI

  52. Easiest money they ever made by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I can make $600/hour watching paint dry, sign me up!

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  54. seen that before by someoneOtherThanMe · · Score: 1

    2001: the space odyssey was very similar to that.

  55. Obscene drying of paint by aurizon · · Score: 1

    The way the glistening film of paint gradually drys in patches and thins......gotta wank now...

  56. Old school filmmaking? by Shirley+Marquez · · Score: 1

    He must have used some sort of old-school oil-based paint. Any water-based paint would be completely dry, at least visually, long before the ten hours were up, so there would really be nothing to see for the majority of the film.

  57. Black Paint? by trevc · · Score: 1

    If it was black paint it should get an Oscar nomination.

  58. SPOILER ALERT! by tsstahl · · Score: 1

    The paint is blue.

    Kidding, of course I didn't click through to read before posting.