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Bernie Sanders Endorses Hillary Clinton (cnn.com)
It's official. U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders on Tuesday endorsed former presidential rival Hillary Clinton as the Democratic nominee ahead of the party's July convention. Sanders said Clinton will make an outstanding president and that he is proud to stand with her. "Hillary Clinton understands that if someone in America works 40 hours a week, that person should not be living in poverty," Sanders added. CNN reports: "I have come here to make it as clear as possible why I am endorsing Hillary Clinton and why she must become our next president," Sanders said at a joint rally here. "Secretary Clinton has won the Democratic nomination and I congratulate her for that." The 74-year-old self-described democratic socialist, who has been a thorn in Clinton's side over the last year, pledged his support to his former rival: "I intend to do everything I can to make certain she will be the next president of the United States." Clinton, speaking after Sanders, declared: "We are joining forces to defeat Donald Trump!" "I can't help but say how much more enjoyable this election is going to be when we are on the same side," she said. "You know what? We are stronger together!" Full remarks of Sanders can be found on this blog post.
The Corporate Overlords want Clinton. Resistance if futile. Anyone who votes for Clinton is enabling more of the same, ad infinitum.
A brain is a terrible thing to waste... Mind? That's debatable.
Or stuff that matters?
What's next, dribble about who the AARP is endorsing for president? Why stop there... let's discuss what sports figures Nike is endorsing.
Sorry, I know you hate people who put content in the subject, and I know we're looking for insightful commentary here, but... that's just all I've got at this point.
If not for Trump, Sanders would still be opposing Hillary?
I've got some cousins who are pretty hard core Sanders supporters who believe all the nut job stuff going around in the supporters' circle for Sanders. For example, did you know that Sanders apparently won California and possibly almost every other state yet was denied victory by cheating conspirators aligned with Clinton who simply threw out votes for Sanders? Yeah, me either. But my cousins buy this one hook, line and sinker. Another thing going around among his supporters is the idea that nothing will ever change if they vote for Clinton or Trump so to make a point a large number of them are threatening to sit out the election. Of course if this happens, it may just simply make Trump the president as despite some vocal anti-Trump stands by various people, the reality is that Republican voters are going to suck it up and vote for him in the fall no matter what. If enough Sanders supporters refuse to vote, it could be very bad for Clinton. We'll see if this endorsement does anything to stop his supporters from sitting out the November election.
This is like the Bush v. Gore but I am not sure which is the lesser of two evils now :(
There is now "News" here and it's not anything real geeks want to hear or know about. This presidential race is a Douche Vs. A Turnd Sandwich. Both candidates are almost equally awful and devoid of any real understanding of any of the issues that face real people.
Why bother reporting this? It's not even news. We've known all along that he'd get pressured into it.
I'm sure he just loves endorsing the one who pulled so many dirty tricks against his campaign...
I'm not voting for her or Trump. I'd rather write in my dog.
I would too if I were him.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Trump is of course utterly unacceptable, and the Democratic Party has shown itself to be controlled by an unaccountable politburo that fixed the nomination. I wont be a part of either of these criminals' rise to power.
Im moving on from Feeling the Bern to Feeling the Johnson.
...as if millions of progressives suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.
flipped them into supporting a warmongering, corporatist, Wall Street shill.
Um, no.
Or Jill Stein depending on how you think things should go.
1) He gets to keep the left-over money, and since he'll likely be retiring soon he won't even have to hide it in his wife's name like he does the rest of his assets.
I thought there were strict limits on what campaign contributions could be spent on. Do you have any information to the contrary that would corroborate your claim?
Chuuch. Preach. Tabernacle.
The most accurate polling analysis in the two most recent presidential cycles has been done by http://projects.fivethirtyeigh... They carefully look at all polls on a state by state basis and then build a national electoral model based on that data. It's updated every few days as new polls come out. Right now, Hillary is winning the electoral college by 338 to 199 with 1 vote for Gary Johnson of the Libertarian Party. Of course things can change, but that's a pretty big lead for this point in the race.
And note that Bernie did not walk away empty handed. He has already moved Hillary to his positions on free college and universal health care.
"He took a duck in the face at 250 knots." -- William Gibson, Pattern Recognition
some are outraged that Sanders has decided to endorse her, but it bears remembering: Al gore once campaigned on the open rejection of the policy that US GDP will increase by 30% in the wake of americas addiction to overconsumption of carbon-heavy resources. A few months later, once appointed to the winning candidates office, he approved a massive trade agreement with china.
I suspect sanders sees the writing on the walls. Its not relevant anymore what elected leaders are told to do by the gilded elite. Massive routine civil unrest in the past 4 years from occupy to blm, combined with unsustainable levels of incarceration and blanket surveillance have galvanised most public opinion ubiquitously against the elite. It frankly doesnt matter what Hillary does, from nationalized healthcare to free college she faces no repercussion from a ruling corporate class that have no other party to turn to.
However if you dont like the party or the candidate, the largest act of protest you can engage in is failure to spend and buy. After 9/11 George Bush didnt tell us to brainstorm more effective foreign policy, or invest in alternative energy, he told us to go out to the malls and shop.
Good people go to bed earlier.
Sanders was an outsider taking on the elites and the political establishment. Hillary is the establishment, she is the perennial insider candidate. It will be interesting to see how many of Sanders supporters stay true to their ideals and refuse to vote for the women they spent months campaigning against. /do Bernie Sanders fans care about corruption?
Ma Theresa's joined the mob, and happy with her full time job. Do, do, diddy-do-do, Do, do, diddy-do-do, doooo....
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
I don't think he flipped anybody. I think Hillary would look like a much better option right now if Bernie never existed. Bernie did more damage to the democratic party than anyone else, it just wasn't quite enough to stop the nomination of Hillary, and now it would be time to damage the republicans if they weren't already dying in a dumpster.
>> Sanders said Clinton will make an outstanding president
Which is a whole lot different to what he was saying last week.
Dude couldn't even stand up to Clinton or the DNC, Putin would've eaten him alive!
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What happened to "she's not fit" for the office? In the time since he said that about her, she's been shown to have been either wildly incompetent or ever more deceitful in her relationship with both her job and her supporters. What's she got on you, Bernie?
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
You mean towards tyranny and bigger government? Sorry, we already have that in the R and D candidates.
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Did you know there are polls that show Johnson leading Trump in at least one state?
You are welcome on my lawn.
Bernie Quotes: “I don’t think you are qualified if you get $15 million from Wall Street. I don’t think you are qualified if you voted for the disastrous war in Iraq. I don’t think she is qualified,” Sanders said in April. During the primary, Sanders described Clinton’s policy positions and rhetoric variously as “nonsense,” “horrific,” “unfair,” “nasty,” “disastrous,” and “obscene.” “Secretary Clinton owes us an apology,” Sanders told a Wisconsin crowd in April. http://freebeacon.com/politics... So now he's going to endorse someone who he knows is an unqualified liar? What does that say about Bernie? It says that he's the same as every other politician and you fell for it. Vote for our liar because they're better than the other liar.
I was hoping against hope that Bernie would leverage last-week's bullshit non-indictment of Hillary into one last push for his Campaign before the Convention.
But noooooo! Bernie has proven that he is nothing more than (yet another) spineless politician who is more than willing to "Go along to get along."
Sorry, Bernie. You blew it.
Yeah I get it, it has influence even on the lives of techies, but I can get this sort of new from ANY site, that's not what I come here for. Lay off the general political news please editors, unless you can draw a clear singular tech connection. Kthanks
Screw you, you stinking SJW fascist! Why don't you go play Pokemon Go with Hitler?
You are welcome on my lawn.
Which state?
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
It was "Join Hillary Clinton" or "Join Vince Foster".
Glad you added the last line, when you say
a warmongering, corporatist, Wall Street shill.
without a qualifier, it's hard to tell who your talking about.
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Our country's two-party system gave us the following two choices to be the next President of the United States: Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton.
Does anybody else see a problem here?
But credit where credit due: the 350 or so million dumbed-down 'Murikuns will get one of them come November 8. And they will have earned the right.
I'm going to guess this is a move to be on a short list for VP. Bernie might not even be on the list, but mending fences may give him some influence in the VP process. Perhaps Bernie did this to get Al Franken on Hillary's short veep list?
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
Pretty sure you're the one who just whooshed.
And I think you misspelled "Sheldon Aldeson". He and the billionaires get to vet the candidates. Yeah, it sucks. But you don't change something like that overnight. Hilary is a compromise between the working class and the 1%. Vote left. Keep voting for the most left leaning candidate who's viable. It took 40 years to get us into this mess, you won't fix it overnight.
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It was on the latest 538 swing-state poll of polls, with third-party candidates added in (not generically, but specifically) There was one state where Johnson had like 22% and Trump had 21%. I wish I could find it now. The 538 site has so many polls it's impossible to find anything. I want to say it was Utah. If I find it later, I'll post it here. The only reason I noticed it was that one of the data nerds on Twitter saw it and pointed it out.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Meh. A cake with shit in it is still a shitty cake even if I like the cake part.
Otherwise, so what?
No, we don't. Sharing some aspects of a whole doesn't make a whole.
There is no leadership principle, there is no government coordination of industry, and as in the case of Spanish Fascism, there is no labor movement co-opted into the system. And the Nationalism aspect is definitely not focused on any one group.
China is more a candidate for fascism than the US, especially from the corporate coordination aspect. Which makes sense, since this is where "National Socialism" and Socialism/Communism have common ground. They believe the State should take the lead, they just differ in what it looks like (Corporations vs. Communes).
I have a mixed reaction to this. On the one hand, while I didn't like a lot of his economic policies, I thought Bernie at least had integrity and meant well. Also, there was a pretty good chance he wouldn't have been able to do most of the stuff I didn't like, since it would have required a lot of Congressional cooperation. On the other hand, he already wasn't going to win (unless the DNC threw Hillary under the bus, and that wouldn't have happened), and it will be amusing, at least, to see some of his more rabid fans freak out.
Examine even your most deeply held beliefs. Nobody is always right.
In our version of Fascism, the labor movement has been declawed and decimated.
Corporations have taken control of government through the economic strong-arm method of campaign donations and lobbying.
Would you argue that we don't have a rabid nationalist bend? How about all of the military service hero worship? The you're either with us or against us mentality? The Patriot Act?...
There are many ways to arrive at Fascism.
Only I can judge you.
Vote for Johnson. Even if you think he can't win (so why bother) if he gets just 15% of the vote the Libertarian Party will earn the right of equal footing with the Democrat and Republican parties.
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is that the summary didn't have the tag "democrats"... at least the last time i checked. it had a tag donaldtrump, clintons, politics, but not democrats. Given how anything every involving a Republican gets a "republicans" tag right away, this is quite a fit. The fact that he endorsed her right after FBI stated that she clearly and knowingly lied to Congress is quite something, too. I don't think many Bernie supporters expected him to do that under such circumstances.
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
Alas the Green Party is only on the ballot in 26 states, but I'm still going to Vote Green as a signal of my displeasure with the Republicrats.
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Not saying I agree with everything that happens in the US, but I don't think fascism is accurate to what it is. It probably needs its own name.
There's nationalism, but there is far too high of a (legal) immigrant population here for it to take on the characteristics of what you'd see in Europe. We may be rabidly American, but we're much more accepting of what an "American" is. You're seeing some of that nativist sentiment, but given the last few years of Presidential elections, we're definitely more likely to elect someone who stands for "diversity".
As for corporatism, in fascism, the corporations don't run the government, the government runs the corporations. It's not exactly like state ownership, but the business owners are expected to remain in the good graces of the government and there is back and forth, but the State remains the prime mover.
In 1930's Germany, for instance, the Party collected an more or less obligatory Adolf Hitler Fund which was collected as a sort of voluntary tax from corporate donors which was then used to do things like give payments to German generals directly from Hitler personally to them. To use a more modern example, it would be like if Hillary Clinton "encouraged" corporate donations to the Clinton Foundation and then used Foundation money to pay off the Joint Chiefs of Staff and other government leaders to encourage them to stay in line.
The important thing is that this was not campaign contributions. The Nazi Party could tap their foot and put out their hand, and the owners of German businesses would pony up.
In our case, Clinton is more likely to be owned by the corporations then the other way around. She gets money from them, but that decision is firmly theirs, and purely based on the corporation's needs, not the State's. That's not incredibly democratic, but its not fascism.
I wanted Bernie to win but if it comes down to Hillary or Donald, I'm sorry, I have to go with Donald.
Hillary Clinton represents all that is stagnant. Both Bernie and Donald want to shake things up.
My biggest hope is that Johnson gets very close to 30%, and wrecks the idea that the president (Clinton / Trump) has any sort of mandate to do anything.
Not going to happen.
People may be particularly afraid of supporting a potential spoiler. It may mean voting for someone they're not crazy about, but a voter who really hates the other party would be more likely to do that, if it means stopping the other team from winning.
Americans Really Dislike Trump, Clinton. So Why Aren't Third Parties Doing Better?
You think multinational corporations are going to be swayed by somebody hollering at them?
Now you make a good point.
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This seems to have a complete list of polls, but the highest number for Johnson there is 12%.
It was a state by state poll. I wish I could find it now.
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There is an element of corporatism in America. But it's not fully there.
For near classic fascism look at China. Nominally socialist but really just authoritarian with the communist party in power.
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His brain was downloaded onto an grey alien computer in Argentina in the 60s. It's now running on an iPhone.
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