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Owning a Cat Does Not Lead To Mental Illness, Study Finds (theverge.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: Cats host a parasite called Toxoplasma gondii that other research has linked to various mental illnesses. So, for some time, people have wondered whether cats are unsafe; for example, pregnant women are usually told to stay away from litter boxes. (They should still do this because transmission during pregnancy is very real.) In a study published in the journal Psychological Medicine, researchers looked at data that tracked 5,000 Brits born in the early '90s until they were 18. This included information about whether the kids grew up with cats, or whether there were cats around when the mother was pregnant. After the scientists controlled for factors like socioeconomic status, there was no link between developing psychosis and having owned a cat. The researchers suggest that previous studies that did show a link had relatively small sample sizes. In addition, many of these studies asked people whether they remembered having cats, which is not quite as accurate. That said, it's important to keep in mind that some mental disorders linked to the parasite -- like schizophrenia -- tend to be diagnosed fairly late in life, so only tracking until age 18 might limit the study.
Yup and its a trip when on shrooms and around them.
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
It all depends on how the symptoms are classified. If this parasite makes foul cat urine smell sweet to its rodent and prinate hosts, there is A LOT going on. Hey BeauHD, ever bothered reading peer reviewed papers of any sort? No? That is what I thought.
Mine likes to hide behind a door and then pounce on my leg as I innocently walk by in my bathrobe. He's EVIL.
Does mental illness lead to owning a cat, though?
nt
But as the keeper of a Siamese I have to argue against this. He literally drives my wife crazy some mornings and that shit can't be good for her. It causes a lot of stress to be honest. I still blame her for caving to the cats whining because once you give in once, you just lost that battle forever more.
She says she just loves him so much. Highest maintenance cat I've ever had and I've always lived with cats.
I see, you replaced liberalism with cat ownership, for the purposes of this chatbot. How clever you breitbart faggots have gotten of late.
Cat gifs are the thinking man's MLP gifs. Nobody cares, nobody wants to see it, we all silently endure.
I heard this somewhere: "Dogs have owners, cats have staff."
Imagine how much harder physics would be if electrons had feelings! -Feynman, maybe
I trust my familiar. I he says cats don't cause mental illness, I believe him.
I denounce the speciism displayed by Slashdot. What about the cats? Don't they need years of therapy after having been, gasp, owned by fugly, smelly, bizarre bipeds without feathers but with ample delusions of grandeur?
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
crazy starts at 20 cats and obscenely crazy 150+
They reduced the data using a small sample size originally and still published the results with no clarification.
Well someone got a big grant anyway. Incentives matter and even scientists are not immune to the lure.
Shandilay! At least I think that is the customary response.
However if they study "if being owned by a cat causes mental illness?" they will find overwhelming support. Delusional thinking that they actually own the cats is the most common symptom.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
This study is very limited; it goes only up to age 18. It says absolutely nothing about whether toxoplasma will turn you into a cat lady.
Those of who have cats know they are our masters. My Devine holiness has informed me of my servitude.
If anything, I have become more balanced centered and connected with our Universe.
My master calls.
- and that can kill you dead.
Keep your litter box clean.
and I know for a damn fact that people that own cats become not sane. As the Wikipedia page at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasma_gondii
says "toxoplasmosis is related to impairment in brain." I've seen coworkers that were normal before become irritable and irrational after getting a cat. Employee discounts encourage pet ownership. Cat owners are insane from what I've seen.
Because anybody who owns a cat is already looney tunes.
Posting anon for obvious reasons, but I've often wondered if toxoplasma is correlated with sexual preferences in humans. We know that it permanently alters the brain of rats and modifies them to find cat urine sexually attractive, along with permanently removing their fear of cats. I've read articles suggesting that it could modify the fears of humans in a similar fashion, making us less fearful of dangerous activities. However, it is a very uncomfortable question to ask and it would be career suicide to look into it or even mention it.
Based on the many, many women I've known (both biblically and otherwise) I can state without any question that there's a direct connection between cat ownership and mental illness.
Sure, there are exceptions, but they only serve to prove the rule.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
". . . pregnant women are usually told to stay away from litter boxes. (They should still do this because transmission during pregnancy is very real)".
Care to quantify that, I see this repeated in every article and post about cats and Toxoplasma gondii, nobody ever cares enough to actually post some real world guidelines.
Does a pregnant woman need to stay 50 feet away, 10 feet away, 2 feet away, what does that mean, "stay away"?
Do you mean to say, that pregnant women shouldn't clean cat litter boxes, or only stay away if one has cuts on their hands/fingers?
Toxoplasma gondii doesn't just jump onto someone, one has to come in contact with infected cat feces, walking near a cat litter box isn't going to infect anyone, so what does "stay away" mean?
Cats are filthy animals. They shit and pee in the house. That tramp through the feces and urine in their little box. Then they hop on the kitchen counters, tables, furniture, and beds spreading their filth.
Yep, this is one of the main things that prompted the "no cats" rule in my home. If I want my plates and cups and counter tops covered with traces of shit and urine, I'll trowel it on myself.
Plus, the hair. Their hair gets EVERYWHERE, every-fucking-where. It ends up on your clothes, bedding, towels, food, furniture, carpets, bathroom- everywhere. You open the refrigerator and take out a plate of something, and there's cat hair in or on it. And let's not even get into the joy of servicing litter boxes.
I actually like cats but I won't have them in the house. No no no.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
though I suppose maybe if you acquired the cat(s) in a moment of temporary insanity you could afterwards decide to keep them even if you were back to borderline rational.
Sorry, tracking until age 18 isn't long enough. Schizophrenia will show up a bit later if it does. Also, *having* a cat in the house is one thing - how many kids are cleaning the litterbox? Because that's the danger zone.
For those who are unaware, Toxoplasma gondii has a life cycle that relies on cats and their prey - typically rats or mice. In cats, it reproduces in the digestive system and gets crapped out. In rodents who come into contact with the cat crap, it infects their brain and makes them less afraid of cats, which benefits the parasite because it wants to end up in a cat's digestive system again.
In humans, it definitely causes miscarriages. There have been studies suggesting a link to schizophrenia, but I don't believe that's the current consensus. Something like 50% of all humans have been exposed to it, so it would be scary if so. But it might also depend on other factors.
It's conceivable that a parasite that has evolved to control host behavior could have adverse psychological effects on human hosts, thus the research into it.
Do you have ESP?
A study is needed to survey 100 'crazy cat people" (let's be equal opportunity here), to see when and how they got started. Get a blood sample to test for the parasite. Just don't tell a crazy person they have bugs in their brain.
The study does not mention how many of the *researchers* own or were exposed to cats...
My cat overlord orders me to add that the thought of cats causing mental illness is ridiculous. Humans are mentally ill naturally.
I'm actually kind of disappointed.
voting for Trump...
Like liberals, cats don't earn their keep.
Trump voter never saw a cat catch mice then.
Owning a cat is a ticking time bomb for its owner. Cats are serious disease vectors for hundreds of often fatal diseases which affect humans. Cornell University put together an informative web site devoted to this topic. Cat ownership indicates mental illness in the same way that Russian roulette indicates mental illness. The information provided by the Cornell Feline Health Center should be considered merely a starting point. Literally volumes could be written on all the cat-borne diseases which are dangerous to humans and too often outright fatal.
Yes , it is incredibly annoying. Yes it is creepy. Yes, I think most people obsessed with "lolcats" or feel the need to stick a cat image on just about everything has some kind of mental illness, such as Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.
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The people who did this study never met the lady who lives on the end of my block. She's completely cuckoo and owns like a hundred cats. Sometimes they wander over to my yard just to get away from the old bat. I'll bet if I walk outside right now, there'll be one sitting on the cushion on one of my deck chairs. He likes to hang out with me when I sit outside at night and watch the basketball game. Wait, does that mean I own a cat? Holy shit. I better get myself checked out.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Does owning a dog lead to mental illness or is it basically mental illness that causes people to adopt these slobbery smelly beasts?
its a parasite makes ya a bit aggressive and bonkers...so yea owning a cat CAN MAKE YOU NUTS....nice try get rid of em
Actually I think the customary response is to troll the HWNDU camera. Some of the troll videos on YouTube were pretty hilarious.
Plus, the hair. Their hair gets EVERYWHERE, every-fucking-where. It ends up on your clothes, bedding, towels, food, furniture, carpets, bathroom- everywhere. You open the refrigerator and take out a plate of something, and there's cat hair in or on it.
You can largely fix this by 'shaving' them. You don't have to use a razor or anything, just standard hair clippers and cut their hair shorter.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
No no no. You've got it wrong. Crazy starts at 20, but at 150+, it is so crazy that it becomes anti-crazy, which means saner than sane.
So a person with 150+ cats is actually one of the sanest people on this planet. I am proud to be a member of this prestigious group.
Get real. Nobody owns a cat. Cats consider that to be disrespectful. They are just free spirits and the world is their litter box.
I want to see a study about exposure to the environment through outdoor animals like cats. Also a diferentiation as to their expose to cats: life long, only childhood, adulthood only, etc... as well as the persons lifelong heath history.
Cats are always cleaning themselves and like dogs their mouths and saliva are super sterilizing if not antibiotic as compared to humans. But they do pick up some contaminants and so they do give you some expose. My guess is that on a whole it's actually beneficial to your health provided you don't already have a weakened immune system..
Meow.
You can largely fix this by 'shaving' them. You don't have to use a razor or anything, just standard hair clippers and cut their hair shorter.
As enjoyable and rewarding as that sounds it still won't fully eliminate the hair, and there's still the problem of them walking through the litter box and then tracking the residue all over your counters, furniture, bed, etc etc etc.
I love cats but they just aren't allowed to live in my home.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
150 is a lot of cat's but about about that one with 200 or the with 1,100?
breitbart is read by liberals.. you must be referring to so-called progressives.
Who was the bloody idiot who thought it did?!
I am ostensibly a human, and I also shit and pee in the house. I use little ribbons of delicate paper to wipe the feces from my anus, but it is never perfectly effective. In the room where I defecate, I keep materials for cleaning my teeth. Unforuntately much of the room is covered in fine particles of feces due to the mechanism used for flushing the toilet.
Is it possible you have observer bias? That you ignore the hundreds of people you meet that do have cats on the assumption that their behavior confirms your own belief that they are not "cat people", when in fact they are?
See subject & pun intended https://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10281371&cid=53915283/ & I care for wildcats that have been around the home I live in for probably a 100++ yrs. or more most likely, & outta the goodness of my heart - why? Imo, they (like dogs also) are BETTER people than many people are...
* They're the GREATEST when it comes to winter since I live on top of a small forest (yet in an inner urban environs) that when winter hits, mice infest this place (no problem w/ cats inside w/ me for winter - they are THE 'exterminator terminators' par excellence!)
APK
P.S.=> I don't mean that for many people - there are MANY good & decent productive human beings contributing to the betterment of the human condition in some way, shape or form - I have no issue w/ them. I do, however, take issue with trolling little weasel scumbags that infest /. forums here that "F" w/ me quite a lot (milksop whimps)... apk
Toxoplasmosis infection makes rats lose their fear of cats. Beneficial to both the toxo and the hungry cats:
http://www.nature.com/news/par...
Toxo in people is associated with traffic accidents... slow reflexes? Lack of fear? Distracted by cat? Probably not psychosis, though:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p...
Dateline did a show about a missing woman who recklessly invited many dangerous men into her life, ignoring all the red flags her friends were trying to get her to see. She was a cat lady, too...
I dare you to test your toothbrush for human feces.
That, when you were standing, would sneak up behind you and climb your pants, your shirt, then perch on your shoulder. Hard on the clothes, and sometimes painful, but cute as hell.
My sister had a kitten that would sit on your shoulder and suck your earlobe. A very weird feeling, but she was a hell of a kitten.
My current cat? Takes a dump in the litter box, then while trying to bury it kicks it onto the floor. sigh.
Schrodinger owned a cat, did they call him crazy? I don't think so...
First, disproving "psychosis" is not as broad as disproving "mental illness."
Second, a study that fails to find an association does not prove the lack of an association, as the summary title says. Imagine this: if I sell refined sugar, and I want to suggest it is not associated with tooth decay, I fund a _small_ study to test the hypothesis "sugar causes tooth decay." The study is too small to conclusively prove the hypothesis, and I can report "study fails to find link between sugar and tooth decay."
See my subject: You're ashamed of posting w/ your real name or use fake names online for your fail of a life as you're a zero milksop, and you know it.
* A man that won't stand behind his words is NOT a man.
You're a PUSSY waste (not a pussy like a cat - a cat's worth FAR more than crap like you fuckhead).
APK
P.S.=> It's probably why MOST of your shitty "millenials" generation are heroin addict losers. You KNOW you're shit. NO balls shit... apk
She's crazy and has a cat. Nuff said, really. she's nuts and the cat is too.
There's a reason people that own one cat go crazy and have brain damage and end up owning more of those things.
The Toxoplasma Gondii requires cats to multiply, so it alters the behavior of its host rodents in order to steer them towards a cat's digestive system.
Now, humans and cats have lived together for millenia; it makes perfect sense that the Toxoplasma Gondii might also have steered us into giving their furry brothels a comfortable place in our homes and our beds... And for the cats, they have two species directly feeding them: Mice and Men. Perfect case of symbiotic evolution.
You'll never see Lassie do anything that smart.
Now, back to the parent post about working at PetSmart:
I've seen coworkers that were normal before become irritable and irrational after getting a cat.
Are you sure that's not just caused by working retail for long enough?
And then there was me, working at Home Depot, wearing the trademark Orange Apron. We had a cat in the store; it ate the mice that lived on the birdseed in the Seasonal Department. As I walked into the lunchroom, about 30 people eating lunch, big shift change time of day...
"Hey Lawrence! I hear you found the store cat!"
"Well, I found part of the store cat..."
Fire and Meat. Yummy.
My cat is quite old. When she passes, I'm seriously thinking about replacing her with a hot water bottle covered in fur, for my lap.
Find out whether owning a human leads to mental illness in cats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
I find it strange that so many women choose a cat as their personality token or spirit animal, believing them to be gentle creatures. Cats are solitary and selfish in nature, in reality, having a sociopathic personality. Cats might rub-up against someone (actually marking territory) and refuse to fight over food but they are super-predators, like humans or a virus. Cats do a massive amount of the damage to local fauna and breed rapidly, making them a pest in many areas. There's always some lazy shit who won't de-sex her cat, ensuring there are more cats, which she then refuses to euthanase; it's irresponsible and destructive behaviour.
"Monster is a relative term. To a canary, a cat is a monster.", Henry Wu, Jurassic world, 2015.
The title refers to 'mental illness', the summary adds 'psychosis' and finally links 'schizophrenia' to the bug. These are not interchangeable; each term is rather clearly defined in a science environment. Moving on to the actual study there are also vacillations between these terms. It's one of many things that casts doubt on the quality of the study.
You may also find a report at WaPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com... Where they have a lovely video of the rat/cat relationship that develops.
...omphaloskepsis often...
That's why the (possibly parasite-infested) feces should be removed twice a day. Yet a lot of cat owners don't do that once a day. I have rescued cats who spent their first few months outside and a few acres for them to roam; so the toilet tray is rarely used. Sometimes the cats don't bury their shit when they do use it, so the stench drives me to extract the warm droppings immediately.
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APK
P.S.=> You DISGUSTING little fuckwad that has to "hide" like the PUSSY you are, motherfucker (& you know it + prove it)... apk
See subject: Come say it my face fucker: It'd be LAST motherfucking thing a WORTHLESS do nothing FUCK like you EVER fucking says or does you DISGUSTING worthless crap...
* You fucking disgusting punk - how can you even SAY you're a man you shitwad!
APK
P.S.=> Motherfucker, I'd love to meet you for just 1 minute (it'd be YOUR last, I fucking shit you not, you DISGUSTING little reprehensible FUCK)... apk
Thank god for the study! I was losing my mind here.
You need the best cat brush, a lint roller, pack of 6 for 2 bucks at Ikea, my cat Loves rubbing against one of these, and it gets all the loose fur off, when covered in fur, peel, and presto, whole new sticky surface, I only have to start the peel, then my cat grabs the end in his mouth and rest off for me, best investment ever!
While it is true that *some* patient will have an age onset of psychopathology later in life (e.g. 40 to 50 is the number I see most popping up as secondary peak), the majority will have an age onset between 17 and 20, because that's the period of growth of the brain where it is vulnerable. Usually later in life it is poorly understood , as it seems to come from a different etiology. e.g. See here for onset statistic for example of schizophrenia as one psychopathology : http://www.schizophrenia.com/p... (A typological model of schizophrenia based on age at onset, sex and familial morbidity. Acta Psychyatric Scandinavica 89, 135-141 (1994).)
As such the study is not flawed, since the onset for most psychopathology is early age. Now if you were talking for other pathology, senescence related, like dementia or Alzheimer , you would have a point, but this is NOT what the study is about.
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Correlation is not causality.
Apparently, they're conducting studies now.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
all the schizo people i know have cats
Remember kids, if you're not paying for the service, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT THAT IS BEING SOLD.
Only tracked till 18 and you are going to say for sure it doesn't?
Get an automatic litter box like the Litter Robot. We have one of those and they work as advertised: easy to change and to clean, and no more smells. The only drawback is that they are fairly bulky; mine fits snugly in a 60x80cm cabinet space reserved for a washing machine. They are pricey but I'm still using the one I bought almost 15 years ago.
If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
many of these studies asked people whether they remembered having cats
So the original studies asked crazy people if they ever owned cats? what did they expect?
Denying cat "ownership" leads to mental illness is exactly what a mentally ill cat owner would say. FOLLOW THE EVIDENCE, SHEEPLE!!11!!!!!1
Let the shrieking begin...
I am just saying that the study could be tainted.
Cats are symptom of Crazy, not a cause.
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
No, but mentally ill tend to own a lot of cats.
Cat people are crazy to start with
Are we talking about mental illness for the owner, or for the cat?
But next week scientists will decide that cats will be responsible for the extinction of the human species.
E Proelio Veritas.
Bartonella creates neuro issues, chronic pain and extreme fatigue.. Transmitted by cats (Cat Scratch Disease).. doctors are just as bullish about Bartonella as they are with Lyme..
Dont tell me cats dont cause mental issues, I was fine before I got this damn disease from a cat.. Some days I barely think or speak full sentences.
You ever see a liberal-slut didn't own a cat? Own ... excuse me ... feline facilitator ... poison-piss-prods-progressive-poodles ...
Cats are not really pack animals but understand social hierarchy. If you let a cat rule the house they will, but if you are dominant (not to be confused with being an asshole) cats are fine. Dogs are pack animals who similarly need structure with you on top of the social structure. Social needs like playtime and grooming time have to accompany the normal duties of food, water, and litter/walks.
I see plenty of cat and dog owners that let their pets run the house. They tend to complain about how "bad" their pets are, in between excusing bouts of bad behavior.
Animal psychology is really not that difficult, but as with many subjects people don't educate themselves. A similar, if not same, type of person will often treat their kids like adults and want to be their friends instead of parents. Problems always tend to be directed at the external entity instead of themselves.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
if your cat isn't driving you crazy, there's something wrong with the cat. return it to the place of purchase and demand a replacement.
This study is clearly incorrect. I'm completely mad because of my pussy.
Batshit Insane
> The researchers suggest that previous studies that did show a link had relatively small sample sizes. In addition, many of these studies asked people whether they remembered having cats, which is not quite as accurate.
So making up pets might have some correlation with mental illness.
A well taken care of cat in a well taken care of environment isn't so scary. Clean the box once a day, it takes three minutes. Fully scrub and change out the littler once a month. Get a Shark vacuum cleaner for the hair, vacuum the floors, furniture and crevices once a week. Keep food related surfaces clean. Learn how to keep your cat off the counters, tables, etc.
Certainly you can't ever be perfectly assured of absolute cleanliness, but that's true of any pet. Dogs are by no means clean without effort.
"Molest me not with this pocket calculator stuff."
- Deep Thought
cause its true...
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
A well taken care of cat in a well taken care of environment isn't so scary. Clean the box once a day, it takes three minutes. Fully scrub and change out the littler once a month. Get a Shark vacuum cleaner for the hair, vacuum the floors, furniture and crevices once a week. Keep food related surfaces clean. Learn how to keep your cat off the counters, tables, etc.
Or I can just skip all that by not having a cat.
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Certainly you can't ever be perfectly assured of absolute cleanliness
I can be perfectly assured of not having cat-related cleanliness issues by not having a cat.
If you want to keep a cat, have at it. I like cats, I just don't want them living in my home. I've owned cats in the past, but no more.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
Tricksy they are, yes
-- Tigger warning: This post may contain tiggers! --
The point is, it's possible to have a cat and a clean house. I'm not sure it takes any more work than a dog. Certainly I don't think you should have one if you don't want one.
"Molest me not with this pocket calculator stuff."
- Deep Thought
It's a modulus function. So after enough cats it loops back on itself and makes you sane again.
captcha: rambling
I sort of doubt it.
Facts about Pet Ownership in the U.S.: It's estimated that 70-80 million dogs and 74-96 million cats are owned in the United States. Approximately 37-47% of all households in the United States have a dog, and 30-37% have a cat. (Source: APPA)
Pet Statistics | ASPCA
www.aspca.org/animal-homelessness/shelter-intake-and-surrender/pet-statistics
The main way people get toxoplasma is from food, especially undercooked meat and unwashed vegetables. But the media makes you think it's from cats because the headline "Cats Make You Crazy" is much better clickbait than "Eating Undercooked Meat Makes You Crazy". Transmission from cats is much rarer. Also, cats get infected by eating infected mice. If you have indoor cats who eat Friskies instead of mice, they aren't at risk and neither are you. Unless you eat undercooked meat, of course, but the media would rather warn you about fake risks than real ones.
"I'm too busy to research this and form an educated opinion, but I do have time to tell everyone my uninformed opinion."
Unfortunately, no one could repeat the study to validate the claims.
A good taxidermist could turn your beloved pet into a slip cover for your hot water bottle. No kidding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Isn't there a test and a pill they can give to cats and people? Who wants these fricken parasites in them anyway.
Cats are filthy animals.
Dog eat their own shit and then lick you. Dogs roll in shit and then roll on your carpet.
Dogs look up to us.
Cats look down on us.
But pigs see us as equals.
Winston Churchill
See subject: You're a cowardly worm ashamed of his real name (proof's that & your undoubted FAKE names online you use too).
* I haven't threatened anyone but that IS a promise to fools like you...
(I.E. - YOU aren't even a REAL person, cartoon character...)
Want to "diss me" punk? Do it to my face in person - I'd show you what "dissing" is by disconnecting your jaw.
APK
P.S.=> I wonder what it's like to live with NO BALLS like you? Now, I know WHY you do it - I've crushed you totally before hence your unidentifiable little troll worm posts you do my way (lol, weak, like you, punk)... apk
Because trying to get pussy can drive a person insane.
Oh... You meant a cat. Nevermind.
Or better, three, to start with.