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18 To 24-Year-Olds Are Hitting the Big Screen at Lower Rates (fastcompany.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: For data and movie geeks, the MPAA's latest "Theatrical Market Statistics" report is a wealth of information about the health of the movie business. The big picture: 246 million people went to the movies in the United States and Canada last year, a 2% increase from the year before. But dig into the trends and things start to get a little more interesting. For instance, looking at per capita attendance broken down by age group shows 18- to 24-year-olds are hitting the big screen at lower rates than they were in 2012, although they saw an uptick last year.
They're broke that's why.
Ticket prices keep going up with inflation, wages not so much.
Clearly it is a business plan that needs a reboot in the days of mobile entertainment.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
Perhaps if there was something worth watching...
Something other than re-hashed comic books perhaps...
Maybe the movies are not worth their time. One also cant forget that would require them to leave their house and silence / shut off their phones
1. money. boomers spent a generation ruining any chance of a millenial or post millenials ability to buy anything more than a bus pass.
2. Theaters. Exorbitant fees for tickets and concessions price most of them well outside the range of the 18-24 demographic. the ones that can afford it, generally avoid it and wait for the online/blu-ray. The theatre experience is sticky floors and 30 minutes of capitive audience advertisements for everything from car insurance to taco bell, and its an insult to anyone whos paid actual money to sit down and see a film.
3. films.: six sequels to the fast and the furious? Ten remakes of Cinderella? thats not film, its the conceptual blueprint for purgatory. The average film experience is either waiting for the next release of 17 new and well planned Marvel movies, or enduring a wasteland of film targeted at the fifth grade comprehension level so as to maximize audience range. Pixar used to churn out a good film, but frankly theyre just in it for the toy licensing (Cars 3 anyone?)
Good people go to bed earlier.
Movie theaters are going to become the next video rental shops, as in they are going to die a slow and noisy death.
With home theater systems getting cheaper and better and better every day, it's practically inevitable.
They may not fade away completely (just yet at least) but location and pricing is going to become paramount, just like books shops are now.
I mean, I still browse through the occasional book shop, but I can't remember the last time I bought a physical book. Erm, nevermind, just remembered, the last couple books of Wheel of Time to finish off my collection, although I read the book on my kindle anyways, I wanted to finish off the series on my book shelf.
There are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third is statistics.
Movies are garbage and kids want to spend their money more efficiently on things they actually derive value from (games / streaming / ... pizza)
You can tell Hollywood is grasping for that demo by playing off things that marketing teams see as what "the kidz" are into (gender politics, feminism, PoC, whatever else) this has lead to some amusingly bad cinematic misfires and will likely continue until not even the flimsiest tax scheme will turn a profit
Don't get me wrong, we always had sludge at the theatre, now we have sludge being peddled to people who don't want to spend money to see it, and that's something Hollywood needs to figure out on its own
The last few times that I went to the cinema, I was very disappointment with the experience.
The last thing I saw was in 3D, so I had to pay an additional 5 bucks. So, 40 bucks for two people. Then 5 bucks for the "small" 200 ounce soda and another 5 bucks for a "small" dumpster full of popcorn.
Then you sit down in the grungy seat and watch the movie. Then notice that the audio is not really calibrated all that well.
Then the movie is over and you try to pry your shoes from the soda glue all over the floor. Maybe you even use the bathroom with the pervasive urine smell and racist comments carved into the doors.
Yeah... Hard to imagine that attendance is down.
I'm not surprised, I'm out of the age group (33) but the same applies to most people I know in my age range too. 5-20 years ago TVs at home were small, with picture and sound quality that in pretty much every case was a whole lot worse than your average movie theater. So going out to see a movie made sense. Great picture, great sound, it took forever to get a DVD (or VHS) and even when you did it was going to be on a tiny screen with horrible sound.
These days it's totally different. Many people have large TVs at home (the wife and I each have our own 65 inch TV) both of which are hooked up to a good quality surround sound system and a PS4. Neither of these setups were expensive. The TVs and surround sound systems were bought refurbished for great deals.
So we can sit in the peace and comfort of our own home and watch a Blu-Ray 3-4 months after the movie comes out on our own good quality home theater setups.
So combine the rise of better quality home setups for affordable prices, with all the annoyingness of going to see a movie. (Like when my wife and I went to the Midnight showing of Ep 7 and there were more than one crying babies in the theatre). Factor in the price of tickets vs the cost of buying the Blu-Ray (these days, 2 tickets are often as much or more than the Blu-Ray) and it becomes a no brainer.
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Two of the 'beer and restaurant' type movie theatres here have gone bust. I was disappointed... we don't make it out too often, but the kids always enjoy it. Used to go almost once a week back when I was a younger fellow without responsibilities or obligations. Home with streaming or red box has become much more convenient if you don't mind the wait, though.
18-24 year-olds are not fully mature adults. They are mercurial and still discovering what they like and don't like. NEWSFLASH #2: they will not be 18-24 year-olds forever. Why has the normal human process of maturation become headline-worthy? So glad we have Teen Beat, er, *Slashdot*, to keep us up to speed on all of the exciting ways kids are behaving like all the other kids that have ever existed, ever.
Your irrelevant rhetoric aside, the reality is that the economic aspects are just a small part of the bigger picture.
These people we're talking about are the early members of Generation Z - the generation that comes after the Millennials (formerly called Generation Y).
While Millennials are known to lean very far to the political and social left, with a fascination about things like "social justice" and "progressiveness", Generation Z is showing the opposite tendencies: they lean very heavily to the political and social right.
This isn't surprising. These people have grown up in a post-9/11 and Great Recession (which is still ongoing, thanks to the last 8 years of failed economic policies) world that's much bleaker and more realistic than the positive times of the 1990s that Millennials grew up in. They aren't as naive and idealistic as Millennials so often are. They see through the nonsense of the "social justice" narrative. They're much more aware of economic realities. They judge others based on achievement and ability, not their skin color or religion or gender confusion like Millennials do.
So of course Generation Z won't bother going to see mainstream movies. Why would they want to? Most movies these days push Millennial-friendly "social justice" narratives. We see this very clearly with movies that were successful years ago that have been remade solely so that the new cast could consist only of "disadvantaged minorities". There have also been movies that essentially try to rewrite history, to exaggerate the achievements of people deemed to be "disadvantaged" today.
The members of Generation Z aren't stupid. While Millennials may lap up that sort of crap with glee, Generation Z doesn't. They see through the nonsense. They want no part of it. Yes, it's true that they don't have much money. So they sure aren't going to spend it on awful movies that are quasi-propaganda. Even if they did have the money, they would find something more useful to spend it on that subjecting themselves to leftist nonsense projected on a large screen.
I'm no fan of Trump but will you butthurt Hillary fans PLEASE stop littering /. with your butthurness?
Exactly. I bought a new car in January when I heard that production was cutting back. Now I look and I can get similar deals to what I wanted but the dealers atill have 2016 models on their lots in quantities.
Christmas was at best mediocre this year. Discount and chain stores are closing stores just as rapidly as before.
Trump supporters are telling me their is a pent up demand but the more I look the more I see contraction coming.
Now a contraction is due in general as 8 years is a good run. However a stock market contraction is going to scare a lot of 401k baby boomers who watched their nest egg shrink and don't want it to do so again.
i thought once I was found, but it was only a dream.
Is there a new play on old chap?
Everything is moving to on-demand. 4K, 10bit HDR1000 displays at home put most cinemas to shame.
Why choose to go somewhere, sit with people playing with their phone and munching overpriced crap when you can watch it from the comfort of home with perhaps some mates?
How is the "movie theatre" better?
Cinema isnt dead, it's alive and well. Better than even in fact. It simply moved out of a theatre and into the home.
A 'singular oddity' is an event that cannot be explained and only happens when you are alone.
It's really odd to blame Trump for the current state of the economy. He has been in power for only 2 months. Democrats have been delaying the confirmations of his nominees for various administrative positions, too, which has limited what he had done and can do.
The current economic problems aren't because of the administration that has been in partial control for only 2 months. These are problems thst go back to the last two administrations.
Maybe car makers shouldn't be pricing their stuff in the stratosphere. When a cargo van costs $60,000, and a base pickup truck costs $45k while US salaries have not improved since the 1990s, it is no wonder why automakers are not selling vehicles.
Retail is seeing the same thing. About 10-15 years ago, retail shops decided to give the middle finger to US workers and buy their stuff from cheap overseas sweatshops. Well, the chickens have come home to roost, and we are seeing retail stores as a general industry collapsing. Sears likely won't see 2018, other stores like JCP, and other corner anchor mall stores, are dropping locations left and right.
It is a case of pure idiocy. If you don't plow a field and drop seeds, you won't get a harvest. You ship the jobs overseas, there winds up nobody in your country who will buy your stuff.
As for car makers, they already sell just crap here in the US. VW doesn't sell their cool vehicles like the Crafter or Amarok here for example.
Most people are posting the same 2 view points (with the 3rd probably being simply the experience sucks because reasons):
1.) Home theater systems are so much better now, mine is amazing and/or there are amazing ones available.
2.) People, especially in the 18-24 yo age group, are fucking poor and can't afford to go to the movies (most of these are ignoring the obvious, that they can't afford the home theater system either).
I'm not in either of those 2 categories (more like the 3rd, without the money or inclination for a huge home theater, apartment dweller and not rich with a deep loathing of crowds), but this seems like a poll worthy topic (no I didn't check to see if it already exists) with "Cowboy Neal is my projectionist" as a 4th?
I am surprised, I thought all these comic book adaptations were specifically geared towards the 18-24 age group.
I have been trying to go to the movies for a while now, but there just isn't anything I would be interested in. Drama- no thank you, got that enough in my own life. Horror- Nah. Fantasy crap- don't think so. Chick- flick - don't have to do that anymore (I'm divorced). When was the last time a really good comedy came out ? One that got you a lot more than just a little chuckle ?
They get tired of us glaring at them or asking them to knock off all their incessant SnapCracking, InstantGramming, TwitFacePlussing, etc. and ruining the movie for people who actually WANT to watch the content. So they stop coming. Good riddance.
False.
You don't have to be a Hillary fan to hate Trump. I hate them both (there's not really much point in hating on Hillary though).
No sig today...
To paraphrase a German comedian, I need money, not an occupation. I can keep myself busy just fine, don't worry about that.
Working is the necessary evil to get money. Just as much as the employee is the necessary evil to profit (as is the customer, by the way). Stop dancing around the subject and celebrate the "always working" idiot.
Working is the necessary evil, not the goal.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Your vehicle numbers are way off.
A 2017 Ram 1500 base truck is about $26,500 MSRP, which probably means it can be had for $25,000 at the dealer if buying off the lot. If you want the base as a 4x4 it's about $31,500 MSRP, which can probably still be had for under $30,000 out the door.
A Ram Promaster 1500 (based on the large Fiat van chassis) is around $30,000 MSRP. The 2500 model is $33,000 MSRP and the 3500 is about $36,000 MSRP, all as cargo configurations. The passenger variants, only availabe as a 2500 chassis and a 3500 chassis are $34,500 MSRP and $38,500 MSRP respectively, and given that there are a lot more parts on the passenger versions this $1500-$2500 markup isn't unreasonable.
Now, if you want the Laramie package, or you want all leather, or you want the megacab with the 8' bed and the Longhorn custom interior with the Katzin seats, yeah, you're going to be spending quite a bit more. Thing is, you don't really need that stuff. You might need a stronger engine in the base model truck, but those modern V6 engines that all three domestic automakers use are quite good, better than their entry-level V8s were only a generation ago. You probably don't need that upgraded configuration.
If your numbers are coming in $60,000 for a cargo van and $45,000 for a pickup truck, it's because of standards that you set.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
We're overdue for a recession anyway. This will be the Trump Recession and not the Hillary Recession.
Kids have no money and are too stupid to realize why they still work at Starbucks with a college degree.
If they're working at Starbucks and have a college degree, you can't them kids. They're adults. Not every adult gets hired straight out of college. I worked as a kitchen cook for three years after I got my college degree and before I started my technical career in 1997.
I'm well outside the 18 to 24 demographic myself, so I may not be best placed to comment on this, but I'm not really sure how many of today's big movie releases are really targeted at that demographic.
Increasingly releases seem to be split into three categories:
1) Very Important Movies About Very Important Things (TM), also known as Oscar-bait, which is usually targeted at the middle-aged-and-older demographic.
2) Millennial/Gen-X nostalgia-fests based on comic-book franchises or reboots of old movies and the like which were big for people born in the '70s and '80s, but probably don't have much resonance for people born after around 1990 or so.
3) Kids' films, for which the actual spending-demographic is usually the parents in their 30s, 40s and 50s who are actually footing the bill.
That makes commercial sense, because those demographics are where the spending power lies. A visit to the cinema these days can be a fairly pricey affair, so I suspect the 18-24 demographic might just not be seen as worth chasing.
8 years ago I would practically live at the theatre.
While there may be some truth to younger people not going as often, I blame..
1- awful movies
2- high ticket prices
3- convenience of watching at home to avoid high ticket prices
The movies could stop putting out junk. Perfect example is Batman vs. Superman. I only went for my teen son who has been a huge comic books fan since forever. I was so bored the entire movie, but he had a blast. He'll grow out of it soon and want a real plot and not just CGI and slug-em-out-fests, so be warned.
Re-runs: Where to even start. How many Spidermans, Supermans, etc., do we need? GhostBusters Female-Edition? Totally lame. Matrix Reboot? Totally lame.
I was enjoying the new comic book movies. But it's just too much of the same and so little to draw me back. I haven't even seen X-Men Apocalypse and was just going to RedBox it (not even buy it, which will be a first for my family).
The only movie which was fun and new for me recently was Rogue One - because it was Star Wars-ish, but it wasn't a re-run of Star Wars like SW7 was. SW7 was so unimaginative, and like GB F-E, much the same, with a female lead instead of a male.
I'm pretty much to the point where it has to be something that really moves me to get me to pony up and go to the movies, and when I do I'm going to pre-purchase the exact seats I want a week ahead (which means extra cost for the fancier theater in town with the full recliners, as it is the only one with specific seating sales).
With a 70 inch TV and great sound at home, I really don't feel like I'm missing much, other than the hassle of other rude people, their kids, their diseases, overpriced unhealthy food.
MPAA: "You're an evil pirate. You'll be caught, fined and jailed. We have the finest government enforcement agents money can buy. Fuck you."
18-24 year-olds don't matter for shit
now get off my lawn!
Double plus good citizen!
She would also watch Disney cartoon animations, she liked them and enjoyed them too. But somehow the simple black and white line drawing animation produced as much delight in her as did the rich colors and fast moving animations of the Lion King or Cinderella.
I think the difference is her ability to control the action. Sitting back and dumbly drinking in whatever spews forth from the screen is one form of entertainment. But if you can control what is going on, even very simple content can be very satisfying.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Most baby boomers don't have their retirement in stocks anymore -- any decent financial manager would have converted the bulk into more stable investments long ago.
Maybe if it didn't cost 20 bucks for a single movie trip for a single person more people would go to the movies. For me it costs roughly 100 bucks to go to the movies with my family. That is two tanks of gas, that I cannot justify wasting 100 dollars on movies.
WTF? VW Crafter cool? ROFLMAO!
I suggest you stop trying to fit the average person into a high-end pickup truck and something more like what people in any other (sane) country drives. You get get good cars for under $20k with some really really nice features.
If Netflix, Amazon, HBO, et. al. can continue to churn out good-quality productions at a decent rate there's not much need to go see a movie theater anymore. For $10/month you get hundreds of hours of entertainment, vs two hours for $50.
As a moderate conservative and a NEVER TRUMP supporter, I want stop complaining about Trump. He's neither a conservative nor Republican, and, until a few short years ago, a Clinton Democrat.
75% of people are not directed to safe routes but to the routes that make financial planners more money. They point out that their fees are lower than competitor while not showing what there fees actually are.
i thought once I was found, but it was only a dream.
As others have said, widescreen high res TVs are a real danger to the movie industry. Everyone gets a good view. And, at a few hundred bucks, most people can afford one no problem. You don't need a fancy home theater setup.
Price to view the movie: if it's been out a while, it's around a buck and a half. If it's brand new, it's several dollars. AND--this is the important part--that's the total cost regardless of how many people are viewing the movie! Go to the theater, and you have to multiply the price (which is already significantly higher) for every viewer! You don't even have to be a family to appreciate those ticket savings. If it's just a bunch of buddies hanging out, that saved money can go straight to buying a pizza together or whatever shared cost you want. It's still money in your pocket.
I blame the low-brow entirely formulaic dross that Hollywood continues to churn out.
Then need to take their CGI budget and instead spend it on script writers that are capable of original, intelligent thought.
The second point obscures the fact that you can break down the cost over time. I built quite a nice home theater, which, minus the TV upgrade a few years back and the BR player a few years before that, I've had for 17years at this point. I use it for all entertainment, not just movies. Video games (probably a bigger want from this demographic) was really the initial reason. Divide my sub $2k outlay over 17 years and multiple use cases and multiple people and it's a better return than taking my wife to a few "possibly decent" movies a year.
The 4th thing is that The Pirate Bay provides a much better experience than the cinema or Bluray, costs nothing and people don't mind waiting for that.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Most CEOs and their lackeys in corporate world today don't qualify as leaders. They're narcissistic sociopaths that creates short term gains to justify their astronomical compensation packages and skip town when things go south. The board that is suppose to be the watchdog are now themselves sociopaths that bleeds companies for their own benefits.
Most people are posting the same 2 view points (with the 3rd probably being simply the experience sucks because reasons):
1.) Home theater systems are so much better now, mine is amazing and/or there are amazing ones available.
2.) People, especially in the 18-24 yo age group, are fucking poor and can't afford to go to the movies (most of these are ignoring the obvious, that they can't afford the home theater system either).
I'm not in either of those 2 categories (more like the 3rd, without the money or inclination for a huge home theater, apartment dweller and not rich with a deep loathing of crowds), but this seems like a poll worthy topic (no I didn't check to see if it already exists) with "Cowboy Neal is my projectionist" as a 4th?
I'm #3. I don't have a "home theater", nor do I really want one. I was "fucking poor" when I was 18-24, at least in the low part of that range, but I went to the movie a lot more than I do now when I'm not "fucking poor".
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
Even without a fancy home theater setup, the home video experience is so much better than it used to be. I had a 25 inch TV for the living room growing up. That was the biggest we could afford. So the home video experience was colorbled fuzzy video and tinny audio rattling in a plastic case on a tiny screen far from where you were sitting. These days you can get a 50 inch screen for 300 bucks. Not exactly an impulse purchase but definitely not a luxury item. And the video and audio quality are orders of magnitude better than VHS. The only reason anyone has to go to a theater is to see a movie before it comes out on home video. Who wants to put up with the crowds, the jerks on their cell phones, the incontinent movie goer who must get up to pee every 10 minutes, the whole experience costing 2 people a sixth of the TV purchase, the inability to pause/go back/turn up/down down the volume, and the long list of other annoyances?
Most baby boomers don't have their retirement in stocks anymore -- any decent financial manager would have converted the bulk into more stable investments long ago.
Not after the Great Recession. Some seniors have 95% of their portfolio in the stock market to juice returns.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/stocks-have-tripled-since-crisis-but-low-rates-are-still-squeezing-savers-1488969009
...Theaters might go the way of Vaudeville or, like Vaudeville, morph into Broadway and bring us to places we can't imagine now. All spectacle all the time.
The difference is that Vaudeville didn't buy themselves congresscritters that rubberstamp laws to protect their racket.
Hitting the Big Screen
I don't know about you squares, but I'm always asking my best pals if they want to hit the big screen at le weekend.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
The Ford Raptor is a beautiful beast, though.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Maybe if the ticket prices and concessions didn't rape your wallet and the movies themselves weren't total trash, people might save a few bucks back to watch one.
As a moderate conservative and a NEVER TRUMP supporter
AKA Fascist
It's an old saying that a producer's IQ was equal to his belt size. It's also an old, old aphorism that to get the IQ of a committee, you add up their belts, and divide by the number of them.
Year before last, we went to see Interstellar, in IMAX. TWENTY FREAKING DOLLARS each for the three of us. And popcorn and drinks? Another $15 or more. To go to a bloody movie.
Hell, half the population can't afford that. And it's the refreshments that pay the staff. Back in the day, the studios owned theaters, and paid the staff. Now, they don't. It's all how much more can the CEO and friends get as a "salary" and "bonus".
You want to massively increase attendance? Cut the prices in half.
When I was growing up, before most of you were born, I got that under capitalism, if sales went down, you lowered prices until they came up. Since the eighties, the game is played that if sales go down, raise prices to "keep a steady cash flow".
An SJW, as opposed to someone with a social conscience, is someone who fights against "injustice" ***on behalf of someone else, whether or not they need or asked for it***.
Like the right (esp. christian right) with their immorality outrage against those they do not want existing, these on the left are using the plight of others, especially minorities, as weapons to attach those who do not ascribe to the same political stance in all ways as they do.
They aren't for the rights of those minorities, except in a fairly loose and tangential way, they are much more interested in how to use that rhertoric to enforce their standards on others.
Just like the "immorality" rants of the especially christian right. There's no actual desire to see more morality, see their own skeletons when the closet is opened, but use it as a weapon to attack others for having the "wrong" political opinion.
AKA Fascist
That's where Trump is taking America.
Obviously a lot of you don't have kids/acquaintances in that age group. Their free time is spent messaging, skyping and watching the multitude of famous youtubers. There is little free time left for anything else like personal hygiene, outdoor activities, movies, etc. The constant-on connection is occupying all of their free/leisure time.
I saw a movie last month for $9. Full adult price. Not only that, but I got to sit in one of those super computer controlled Japanese recliners. The theater was maybe 25% full (late Saturday afternoon).
It's really odd to blame Trump for the current state of the economy.
That would be odd. It's only due to your poor reading comprehension skills that you think that I'm doing that.
He has been in power for only 2 months.
So? He has already made sweeping policy changes and more to the point, taken credit for bringing jobs back to America which are in fact not coming back to America. If he wants to take the credit, then his athletic supporters can be reminded of the fact that he has done no such thing.
Democrats have been delaying the confirmations of his nominees for various administrative positions, too, which has limited what he had done and can do.
Yeah, they've managed to delay some Russian employees from being placed in our government. Good on them.
The current economic problems aren't because of the administration that has been in partial control for only 2 months. These are problems thst go back to the last two administrations.
Trump claimed that he would make deals with the automakers to bring jobs back to America. But the jobs are leaving America. Exactly the opposite of what he promised is happening. And some of them are leaving specifically because Trump has become president. Notably, trust in American services is at an all-time low, and people are being dissuaded even more strongly from traveling to the USA than ever before by his travel policies. It's not just these muslim bans, or the muslim laptop ban for that matter, travelers from many countries are reporting having their laptops imaged and the like. Trump is having a chilling effect on America.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
A 2017 Ram 1500 base truck is about $26,500 MSRP,
Have you driven the Ram? There's a reason why it's the least popular truck.
A Ram Promaster 1500 (based on the large Fiat van chassis) is around $30,000 MSRP.
It is a complete fucking shitpile. Every review of every model of Fiat Ducato (by any name) shows that it is underpowered, handles like dogshit, and is the least reliable vehicle in the segment.
FCA is circling the toilet bowl for a reason. Expect them to get bought out by VW within the next five years, because VW is going to need a new partner.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Terms like "Social Justice" are selected because they have the ability to end arguments without ever having one. When some, like the OP, here the term justice they immediately assume that anyone agrees with the position is right, and anyone who disagrees is unjust, and wrong. Since no thought is ever given to the underlying idea, it is very easy for harmful or even evil ideas being as "Justice".
People tend to be very excited to sign on to "justice" causes, until it effects them personally. For example, a typical SJW maybe very much in favor of rules that help the poor, especially when that means someone else needs to give them money for something. After all, what kind of heartless ass does not want to help the poor? If they got it, and you don't, you should get some too..... But, if you point out the SJW that they are in fact very rich, being a member of the Western world, and they should perhaps give up 30% of their money and things to help someone in the developing world, they seldom are in favor of doing so. It does not matter if you can point out that statistically and materially the SJW who has the internet, abundant running water, and iPhone, transportation, a luxurious (by the standards of the third world) apartment etc. is as wealthy to their third world counterpart as they are compared to a "rich" person, they have no interest in hearing this. Rich is always other people. Justice is always something someone else must sacrifice for. Why? Because it is not justice in the real sense of the word.
To the credit of generation Z( or whatever you are calling them), they are starting to notice that the very narrow world view propagated by the ruling class politicians and mass media is not matching with reality. They are actually thinking, observing, and reading more sources. Trying to win arguments by mere labels or tribal grunting is wearing thin. For the first time in a while, there might be hope of having honest discussions and attempting to solve problems instead of having policy be slogan.
"Liberalism is a very noble idea, currently controlled by some very bad people. Be sure you do not get the two confused.
The funny thing is, I haven't seen someone else tie this article to piracy. I have seen several articles and comments posted on slashdot swearing that somehow people downloading movies for free does not decrease theatre attendance. Am I the only one is not shocked to read the age group the pirates the most has a declining attendance?
"Liberalism is a very noble idea, currently controlled by some very bad people. Be sure you do not get the two confused.
That's $16K too much for two seats in a small cab dragging a simple box.
IMO, anyway.
, I want stop complaining about Trump. He's neither a conservative nor Republican,
He's not establishment conservative nor Republican. He's very much channeling the political will of the American working class, plus those of us fed up with the corruptness and political theater of the "establishment-media complex".
Establishment Republicans, Democrats, and the old-school media (but I repeat myself) are all utterly dismissive of a very large chunk of voters in this democracy, talking down to them, calling them ignorant and racist, and in general saying "let them eat cake". A sentiment frequently repeated by Slashdot posters, I might add.
Fuck that. Trump may be far from my ideal candidate, much like Bernie was, but the vast hatred for him by the establishment, and all the self-described elite who think they're just better people than those working class brutes, demonstrates he's a "good enough" choice. I'm not a big Trump fan, but I loath the modern hipster-pseudo-intellectual progressive crowd, so: you go Trump, kick some ass.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Don't confuse fee-for-advice financial planners with the crooks at full-service brokerages. You describe the later, but most people (even near retirement) don't have the wealth to attract those sharks.
Actual financial planners, or just plain old-school investment advice, has you mostly out of stocks at retirement. I can't vouch for "keep your age as a percentage in bonds", but it's very common advice.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
He's very much channeling the political will of the American working class, plus those of us fed up with the corruptness and political theater of the "establishment-media complex".
Uh, no. What Trump says and what he does are opposite things. He says "insurance for everyone," he supporting a healthcare bill that will take away insurance for 26M Americans. What the working class doesn't understand is that ObamaCare covers them, either directly through an exchange or indirectly through small business tax credits. They will get hit the hardest under TrumpCare.
Translation: "Fuck you, working class! My billionaire buddies and I are getting a $200K tax break that was funding ObamaCare."
Yeah, instead of cake trump is going to let the American working class eat shit so his billionaire and multimillionaire heroes can get yuuugge! tax breaks.
As usual, lgw, you're trying to overcome your cognitive dissonance with arguments that can't stand up to the most cursory examination. All the evidence makes it clear that tRumpf is working hard for the interests of the wealthy while paying much lip service (and literally nothing else) to the working classes: middle, lower, and way lower.
Only I can judge you.
I have no idea what is in theaters right now because I haven't watched a commercial for years. Like many other young people, I get my media from Netflix, Amazon, and/or Youtube.
Hollywood movies have lost their luster. Everything feels so stale, played-out, and formulaic. Hardly anyone is taking any creative chances with their stories (probably because it costs $100MM to make a Hollywood movie, so you damn well better check all the boxes).
I haven't seen a good movie in the theaters for years, and the enjoyment was lessened by the steep prices, which are hard to pay for as a college student or on a graduate student stipend. I have a job and money now, but my desire to go back to the theaters has not returned.
I will admit, the movie experience in japan was great. Assigned seating, beer, nice clean chairs, and nobody playing with their phone.
so, no popcorn or drink... Unfair comparison.
Only I can judge you.
Movie theaters charge this way because the movie studios take the lion's share of the profits. Movie theaters make almost nothing on the ticket and so try to squeeze it out of concessions.
Only I can judge you.
They are hitting the small screen and also the bong.
In the cinema, the latter can get expensive with sweets sold at their worth in gold.
I never got food at a movie theater. My parents said that was for stupid people. I had a 7th grade teacher who told the class the same thing when we were studying how movie theaters make their money (it's from concessions, not ticket sales).
That's fine and good but my point is that you were comparing apples to oranges as the initial comment was about the price including a popcorn and drink.
Only I can judge you.
It's the technology. Nobody goes to the cinema any more when they can have just as good or better experience at home.
Your level of desperation is unbelievable.
Your level of desperation is unbelievable.
Many of us feel that way, since we are watching the Fourth Reich being constructed before our very eyes. Maybe you're whiter than white and not a quarter-hispanic crypto-jew, but some of us are concerned.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
The last time anyone should have bought a Dodge truck without a diesel was in the seventies, back when their engines were better than everyone else's. (They just were. Y'all can argue if you want, but you'll be wrong.) Through the eighties and up until a few years ago, the reason to buy a Dodge pickup was to get a Cummins straight six, which is a better-built engine than literally any of its contemporary competition. But today Cummins is building V engines and you can get one in a Nissan. Nissan is at least ten times more competent than Chrysler (Dodge trucks) and at least a hundred times more competent than Fiat (Dodge vans.)
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
A lot of the demographic fluctuation year to year is likely a result of what is showing that year. For example, we saw a significant jump in African-American moviegoing in 2016 (after a steady decline from 2012 to 2015) because of the large number of films telling stories that are centered on their experiences, including the Best Picture winner and two additional nominees. Nearly all of the box office for Hidden Figures came this year and Get Out has also been a hit, so I expect African-American moviegoing numbers will also be strong in 2017.
No one ever asked my age when I went to the movies. And I went more in 2016 than in the prior 3 years!
Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.
In this age of everyone having a camera in their pocket, theaters don't really offer privacy like they used to.
That, and when I was a teen, the biggest TV I had access to was a 46" front projection POS from the early 80s and it required blackout curtains it was so dim. The next-largest "real" TV was a 25". I picked up a 70" 4K set during the holidays last year that blows away any cinema experience I've ever had, short of d-box seats. That and the fact we're no longer stuck with VHS kind of castrates the only thing cinema had going for it.
Plus, I can make my own damn popcorn with real butter for way less than a dollar for a big-ass bowl.
In a world of the blind, the one-eyed man is king--and the two-eyed man is a heretic.
It's too bad they got rid of the Ram Tradesman Van (basically the cargo variant of the Dodge Caravan). Not the most reliable van, but worked well enough for light duty use and won't bankrupt you keeping it on the road.
If VW is smart they'll stay well away from FCA, but you're right - they seem made for each other.