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PewDiePie Is Inexcusable But DMCA Takedowns Are Not the Way To Fight Him (vice.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Motherboard: Felix Kjellberg, better known as PewDiePie, is the most popular YouTuber in the world. He's gotten himself into another controversy, this time for shouting the n-word while livestreaming a video game. The 27-year-old Swede has repeatedly been criticized for hate speech, and just last month said he would no longer make Nazi jokes after a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia turned violent. But while playing PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds on Sunday, Kjellberg, who has over 57 million subscribers on YouTube, called another player the n-word before erupting into laughter. "What a fucking n****r," he said. "Jeez, oh my god. What the fuck? Sorry, but what the fuck? What a fucking asshole. I don't mean that in a bad way." Kjellberg did not immediately respond to a request for comment, and has yet to publicly acknowledge the incident.
In response to Kjellberg's use of a racial slur, a number of video game players and developers have condemned the creator. Sean Vanaman, the co-founder of video game company Campo Santo, decided to use copyright law to push back against Kjellberg. On Twitter, he said he was filing a Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) takedown request against the famous YouTuber regarding a video in which Kjellberg plays Campo Santo's game Firewatch. There are compelling reasons to [remove hate speech from major internet platforms] by any means necessary, but DMCA overreach is among the least compelling options, considering that it unilaterally puts power into the hands of what are essentially uninvolved parties and allows for little arbitration or defense on the part of those who have their content removed.
In response to Kjellberg's use of a racial slur, a number of video game players and developers have condemned the creator. Sean Vanaman, the co-founder of video game company Campo Santo, decided to use copyright law to push back against Kjellberg. On Twitter, he said he was filing a Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) takedown request against the famous YouTuber regarding a video in which Kjellberg plays Campo Santo's game Firewatch. There are compelling reasons to [remove hate speech from major internet platforms] by any means necessary, but DMCA overreach is among the least compelling options, considering that it unilaterally puts power into the hands of what are essentially uninvolved parties and allows for little arbitration or defense on the part of those who have their content removed.
Seriously, who?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
How is what PewDiePie said "inexcusable?" Ever said something in a heated moment you regret later? That's all the happened. A slip of the tongue. It happens. Fucking deal with it.
Oh, wait, I accidentally swore. Clearly all my YouTube videos should have DMCA take-downs against them over a single fleeting expletive.
You may not like PewDiePie, but stop trying to pretend he did anything objectionable. He didn't.
No one ever got their feelings hurt and woke up the next morning with Leprosy. This 'hate speech' crusade is just ridiculous.
Why is that word OK to say in rap videos?
To find a solution to this problem, just take a tip from Mr. Paul Anka
Anthropic principle: We see the universe the way it is because if it were different we would not be here to see it.
I'm not advocating hate speech, but why is there the need to censor "n****r" when "fucking asshole" was printed in plaintext?
These are all just words. It's no different than "chink" or "beaner". By censoring them we elevate their status and perpetuate the undesirable meaning behind them. It's just stupid.
Even slashdot required me to censor it to post. wtf.
DMCA overreach is among the least compelling options, considering that it unilaterally puts power into the hands of what are essentially uninvolved parties and allows for little arbitration or defense on the part of those who have their content removed.
It seems like if a DMCA takedown is so powerful then it shouldn't be blindly accepted. This is just a symptom of the problem that is the DMCA.
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"publicly acknowledge the incident"? Except for that apology video he posted shortly after ending the stream the same day.
PewDiePie got angry during a game and cursed. There really is no issue involved.
The real racists out there are incredibly casual about it. They aren't trying to be shocking for humor or to get a reaction (some of whom try too hard and it's obvious). It's just a part of their mind and it can't be separated.
Or we could accept the fact that he doesn't live in america and that the 'n-word' has difference meanings depending on location. For example, it simply isn't that big a deal where I live. It's a nasty word, but that's all.
It's fucking ludicrous to try to discuss this on a website where neither the summary, title, nor comments, can actually contain the word in question.
I'm generally surprised at how censorship has a history of complete failure, but maintains complete adherence from those who wish to police language.
Anyway, not joke he made was "inexcusable". But how could you have that discussion here?
With Schumer pulling the Democratic cart on keeping the dreamers in and blocking the wall, a far cry from the policies he supports in Israel, it's not a good time for Jews to have that discussion in public.
The DMCA is frequently used by commercial entities to take down speech which has even less relevance to it than this. That's an example of why the DMCA is an atrocious law, but why should only the abusive entities, like the RIAA or the MPAA, be allowed to use it?
(There is at least one reason, but think about it for a minute first.)
The only reason I've been able to identify, is that then you hate the law less than it deserves. I.e., you become complicit in its injustice. But most laws are unjust to someone or other, and you can't go around ignoring them.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
If the country had both a history and a present-day pattern of oppressing "fucking assholes" you might have a point
No, the point is even more valid when you have a history of oppression. History has shown time and time again that the way you fight the words and idea of oppression is with better words and ideas.
You cannot get rid of entrenched attitudes like racism, sexism and other bigotry by suppressing it. All this does is hide it from view where it festers and erupts and then all of a sudden you wake up to find you have a sexist, racist Oompa Loompa as a leader.
The idea is so old there is even incorporated into a children's fairy tale. Remember sleeping beauty where the king bans all spinning wheels but she still gets pricked because the first time she sees one she is so curious about it?
I'm not excusing the language, but any gamer will tell you that when you play online you're surrounded by people saying things that would be incredibly hateful in person. You become desensitized until it just isn't even offensive anymore -- it's just some immature dude and you don't pay attention. Not only does it become not offensive to you, it just becomes "one of those stupid things people say".
And then you have that one night, maybe you're tired or angry or whatever and you're in the moment, and suddenly you say one of those things in a game. In the ~20 years I've been gaming online I know I've done it once or twice. And you immediately recognize right after that you did it, and feel stupid and not proud of yourself, but it doesn't mean you were using it in a hateful way -- you were just using some stupid common phrase the kids say in the game.
I don't care about Pewdiepie, but I can totally see how it'd happen. Language in games is different from in person. It just is.
It's been the #1 related link to almost everything since I submitted it.
"There are compelling reasons to [remove hate speech from major internet platforms]"
Really? Is anyone forcing anyone else to watch these youtube videos? If someone behaves badly then first call them out and after that ignore them. The mere existence of objectionable material in a public forum is not a reason to panic. I consider many things on youtube and other sites to be even worse than what this guy did. If I get 1,000+ people to scream about crass language or porn can I get it all banned? Oh, I forgot. Porn is big business and "free speech" so it gets a pass even though research shows it damages real relationships. I choose to avoid people screaming obscenities and slurs *and* the porn. It isn't hard. I don't care whether some advertisers want to target their ads to objectionable groups of people. What I don't want is some company or group deciding that they are the arbiter of "good" vs. "evil" and trying to snuff out all people that think differently than they do.
The whole reason the label of "hate speech" was created was to have a lever for censorship. Just like "hate crimes" were created to give an excuse to punish some people differently for the exact same crime that others commit.
I'm not sure in what spirit you're saying this, but it's not a terrible thing to say. Human lives should be treated with equal respect. If one is going to be a knob, at least try to be an equal-opportunity offender.
Please refer to Michael Anthony Richards, a.k.a. "Cosmo Kramer" on Seinfeld.
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I forget who proposed the idea, but imagine if you went back in time and we're able to swap the meanings/definitions of the words "cake" and "cunt", the words aren't inherently good or bad, they only have the power we assign to them... so don't assign such mystic importance to the word, niggr.
"An anonymous reader quotes a report from Motherboard" and yet I can't see a link to that report in this article. Also, having heard about this whole thing elsewhere I know that PewDiePie has most definitely responded already in another video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLdxuaxaQwc&ab_channel=PewDiePie
Yet another case of poor editing at /.
Note I'm not in any way, shape, or form defending PewDiePie, despite his thorough apology and admittance of guilt. The fact the n-word came out like that for me points to it being part of his cultural vocabulary.
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This is true, but it is also perhaps relevant to note that that is an affirmative defense, which means that the AC was correct: as long as the filer owns the copyright it's legal for them to file. From what I recall of the response process, the infringer would need to specify which federal court they're okay with being sued in. I think that PDP would have an excellent case for fair use under the terms you identify. I don't know whether he has the means to argue that in court. I suspect that he can probably find them.
Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
Inexcusable?
Bad choice of words, YES! Racist conotations, YES! However, this word IS pop culture. You can't escape it in media. Pewdipie, seriously, don't fucking say it, try harder. Everyone else, we need to have a talk about this fucking word, because the whole notion that it's bad for you to say depending on your skin colors is the most racist, comical distinction ever in the context of fighting racism.
It's like how when you're at work you don't call your black boss a fat nig*er but if you were playing him online you would definitely call him a fat nig*er.
I have seen good friends (not neccesarily both the same "race" either) use that word (and worse!) to refer to each other, neither taking offense. Just because an uninvolved 3d person takes offense doesn't mean the actual participants do. Maybe the 3d party is just being a busy-body. Reminds me of the U of Miami Indians being forced to change their mascot because some so-called indian activists took offense. While the real Miami tribe wanted them to keep the "Indians" name so that folks would remember the Miami where actually in Ohio and not S Florida.
He could never made a classic movie today. Must be his racist, misogynist, cis-centric, religiously intolerant background...
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
I don't approve of that kind of language, not that I haven't heard the same language a billion times in online games. Its pretty common. The saddest part of the story is all the snowflakes convinced that they will melt into a puddle at the first "micro-transgression."
FFS grow a spine, focus on what matters and move on with your life. You will be better off for it. Words are just words, nothing more, nothing less. If you want to see some real problems that need champions look to Africa or the Middle East, where people are still starving to death, genocide is still happening, and women still don't have basic rights.
Armchair offense takers in the West need to drink a big cup of STFU with a MYOB chaser...
If you disagree, please post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like
When the Nazis aren't as violent as the other side, yes, I would say "a pox on both your groups". If you're Polish in 1939, who's worse, the Germans or the Soviets?
The game company gave explicit license to everyone to stream game play and monetize it, and made no mention on that page of any limitations.
Thus, PDP owned copyright to that video, as a unique public performance, by implicit license from the game company. The DMCA takedown is false and thus actionable.
PDP should be smart and sue the ever living fuck out of the game company.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
So when do the public executions begin?
"The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old......They literally know nothing." - Ben Rhodes
Depends on how much Jew you were.
Maybe you should post your swear words so we know which ones are acceptable.
Your comment doesn't address his question.
You explained why you shouldn't throw the word around. Because it comes with centuries of negative connotations that are impossible to extricate from it.
But the question is, why is it being censored when it's not being used in that way, but is being discussed? Are we such fucking children that we can't even write out the things we're talking about in an analytic or news-coverage way anymore?! He's not asking "why can't PewDiePie say that word, but he is allowed to say 'asshole'". He's asking why in coverage of it as a news topic, it is even being censored. It's a completely valid question. Can you think of anything else that you would talk around and not say the actual word that is relevant to the discussion when you're not actually using it in any negative or harmful context but are simply using it to discuss that it was used?! It's fucking absurd.
Worse, by censoring it, you are forcing the READER to voice it in their head. When you say "N-word", you are STILL CONVEYING THE WORD to me. And you are making ME fill it in in my own fucking head. So why act like fucking toddlers by censoring it in that context, to begin with?!
Oh boo hoo, so you had it tough growing up.
Are you gonna cry about it? or are you gonna try and do something about it? Complaining won't improve your situation, it will only make people resent you.
You think there aren't whites, asians or other ethnicities who've had it hard? There's been plenty of war in europe, serbia a few years ago, ukraine now, eastern europe is fairly impoverished, several countries in the middle east are active warzones right now and countries in asia are or were recently under totalitarian rule. Many people would love to have a stable job where the worst that happens is they get called something.
In the west people have equality of opportunity, and there are many examples of highly successful black people in america and other countries. If you choose not to take advantages of the opportunities available that's entirely your own fault, there are also plenty of extremely poor whites in america who have failed to take advantage of the opportunities available to them - again entirely their own fault.
You have equality of opportunity, but if you want equality of outcome you need to make an effort yourself, you can't expect to have everything handed to you on a plate.
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Like I said, it's moronic to go "oh boo hoo" to the entire audience of the most popular YouTube star when that includes people in all types of situations, so!me of which understandably react poorly to the word, whether it is some memory or trauma or death. Definitely not everyone, but enough that we should be sensitive to others, for the same reason we don't throw around words like spic or chink or kike or rape or whatever else that has no constructive element. There's no reason to expect that a chunk of people in a general audience won't get upset about words like that. Not like he's even adult only, not that it makes it much easier to take when you're watching something to relax coming from someone who depends on the audience getting an affinity for their particular personality.
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I still fail to understand who really gives a rat's ass about someone else using "naughty words". Seriously, the entire planet needs to grow the f up in my opinion.
Sorry, just had to get that off my chest after reading this stupidity.
A bunch of neo nazis wanted to have a rally, they should just have been ignored and it would have ended peacefully with noone outside of the neo nazi community listening or caring about their message. They would have shouted a bit, waved a few swastikas around and then gone home.
Instead a large group of anti neo nazis had to go and confront them, causing a conflict and attracting attention. When two wildly opposing groups clash violence often ensues and it's right of trump to condemn both groups.
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And FWIW I'm not crying about it, I'm just not going to spend my time browsing his content when I'm trying to be entertained. People are bringing up context, this is a guy who wants to build a community? Those aren't community building words. That's not what I would want to show my friends, that's not how I'd want to reach out to people. I'm not crying, just not watching or endorsing. Not letting my kids watch.
Only reason I commented is it seems like some people can't fathom anyone justifying such a viewpoint so I offered a perspective, that is all.
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That's all fine... Just don't broadcast it on youtube.
PewDiePie IS inexcusable, not because of any "racism", but because he's an annoying little shit.
may break your bones, but someone will always offend a feminist
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JUST listen to the pretend things the kids say. While they put pretend bullets in each other. While they crash cars into each other. While they run pretend bankjobs, pretend kidnap each other, pretend knife, shank, and teabag, and sometimes even kill pretend nazis.. We laugh when we pretend beat the money out of the hookers, and pretend murder whole races.
It's pretend shit talk. Just like the rest of the clowns on the internet. None of it is real. It's the fucking INTERNET. That's why the 400lb man in his moms basement pretending to be a 12 year old girl is the joke.
Have some fucking perspective ya wimps. THIS IS NORMAL BEHAVIOR WHILE GAMING.
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To put it another way...
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BlackLivesMatter is bullshit. It gives the impression the other races aren't as important.
Why don't these matter?
RedLivesMatter
YellowLivesMatter
WhiteLivesMatter
There is only ONE way to end all this bullshit:
All Lives Matter
you fight oppression with deeds. The South was basically dragged kicking and screaming, literally at the barrel of a gun circa 1864, into the world of civil rights. It took constant pressure from the North and West Coast to first end Slavery and then Segregation. And they've hated us for it since. Yeah, there's the "Liberal Redneck". The South isn't a monolith. But such people's voices were a minority in the 60s and it was a Supreme Court case that ended it. Didn't they make you read about Brown vs Board of Education in school?
Words make people feel good. Deeds solve their problems. As for getting rid of racism: It's all about money. It's a wedge used by the ruling class to divide the working class. It has been since our societies got big enough to need such things. The reason you're seeing a flare up is both the Dems & the Republicans abandoned working class white men to globalism and Trump & the Alt-Righters noticed that and are capitalizing on it. If you want to stop it the solutions are economic. Hell, that's what end slavery more than anything, it wasn't a good deal economically anymore.
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Negro. There I said it. Can we move on?
The "not in a bad way" was some inept attempt at backtracking.
It's gamer trash talk. The idea is to be as offensive as possible in a generic way. The n-word slur is used so often because that's about as offensive as kids can get.
Personally I think an adult should not be taking his social cues from a bunch of kids. Reaction is a little overblown but honestly, who will defend someone for being deliberately offensive.
You're making the bullshit "someone always has it worse so we shouldn't fix anything argument".
It's bullshit through and though.
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No it's not that all other races besides white people matter, it's just if we said all Iives matter, we would really have to say All Lives Matter (except those of white people). See how awkward that is?
They should try being left handed if they really want to know oppression.
It's possible to order a refrigerator or freezer with the door hung the other way. I have one.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Yeah, that worked out real well for the Germans ca. 1932.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Could you please stop? Every time someone says that I have the urge to watch the movie again.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
this is a guy who wants to build a community?
Which part of 57 million subscribers confuses you?
He built a community, and then didnt stop.
He is the king of community building. Surpassed by nobody, ever.
So not only do you not know what you are talking about, you are completely full of shit on the most important of your premises. You are part of the problem.
"His name was James Damore."
You are making the bullshit "we can fix structural racism and that fix is to stop saying the N word"
You are part of the problem. You dont give two shits about the problem. What you give two shits about is appearances. Fuck off, disgusting fuck.
"His name was James Damore."
Black lives matter never implied that other lives do not matter. That aspect is only implied by those who do not want to or have not understood what that movement is about.
You are implying some motive that isn't there. It's like one saying "I like cabbage" and then others implying that person does not like any other vegetable. Your conclusion is severely flawed.
Learn some history. The nazis in 1930s Germany were going to other political party gatherings and beating people up. Now we have antifa assholes perfectly emulating what they denounce.
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BLM is bullshit because it's about identity politics - not actually doing anything to help blacks. Black peoples really don't matter to this movement except where "black bodies" can further the political movement. You'll very quickly have your black card revoked if you disagree with the ideology.
In response to Kjellberg's use of a racial slur, a number of video game players and developers have condemned the creator.
Well, yeah, God's done a lot of stupid stuff.
Oh wait, you mean the game guy? "Creator" is a bit grand for what he does.
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It's possible to order a refrigerator or freezer with the door hung the other way. I have one.
Or you can swap the hinges. My fridge (a whirlpool) can be trivially converted between left and right hand operation without ordering parts. It's useful not only for the sinister, but also for situations where it's more convenient if the fridge opens in that direction.
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... who finds it extremely peculiar that the most popular YouTuber is a guy posting videos of himself playing video games?
People watch that ?
N*gger isn't a swear word it's a demeaning and dehumanizing word.
Curse words like fuck allude to sex, n*gger is designed to erase anything distinct about someone and reduce them to a preconceived construct designed to abstract the target instead of dealing directly with the individual on common terms.
Perhaps words can change meaning over time but there are many people alive who have had negative experiences involving that word being used as I described above, and to hear someone who you are supposed to enjoy drop that word takes a lot of the enjoyment out for certain people.
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Really?
"We receive as friendly that which agrees with, we resist with dislike that which opposes us" - Faraday
The problem is not with malspeech, but malhearing. Anyone who listens to you just _waiting_ for you to say something bad so they can pounce on it is not, in fact, listening. They are stalking you.
It doesn't even matter what specific fault the malhearer is waiting for -- liberal, conservative, culture, relationships, whatever. It is impossible to have a conversation with anyone who is waiting to be offended.
"We receive as friendly that which agrees with, we resist with dislike that which opposes us" - Faraday
There are no doubt too many people who don't do justice to the word. Not everyone agrees that it should be used in each case, it depends on the individual doesn't it? Just because it is used by some doesn't mean everyone is always happy about it.
But generally hip hop represents the reality of those individuals, or perhaps with the advent of more pop/club rap, a persona. It does not often try to represent an entire race.
Whether things are OK or not very on the individual. Trying to determine if something is overall OK or not in this broad a sense is kind of reductive and ultimately pointless.
But when it's used as if the context and associations don't exist, and people start arguing they shouldn't be considered even though it resonates strongly with certain individuals, it seems very dismissive.
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Oh come on. White people may have designed America, but black slaves did the lion's share of the actual building of America.
They marched with weapons outside a synagogue chanting antisemitic slogans during a sabbath service. Their goal was to inspire fear in those attending the service. I'm not a huge fan of antifa in general but in this case, they were needed for the safety of those who just wanted to mind their own business on their own property.
Whoever thought that? The issue here is being told it's unreasonable to have a bad reaction when you hear it
The issue is not hate speech or racism. It is on yet another horrible example of why the DMCA is bad.
How do you deal with hate speech? Don't listen.
How do you deal with the DMCA? Good question. I wish I knew.
I remember seeing a slashdot post where the music industry suggested that over 100 million Americans pirated music. That is more than all of the people who voted for Trump and Hillary combined. So why do we still have it? Is it because America is no longer a representative democracy? Do we no longer have power over our own government?
If you have a solution, I am all ears.
Not to BLM. Hence, they're just as racist as their KKK counterparts.
Yeah because non black people never suffered hardships in the country. Stop making this about race.
you fight oppression with deeds. The South was basically dragged kicking and screaming, literally at the barrel of a gun circa 1864...
Who was wielding that gun? The US as a whole was convinced that oppression was a very bad idea by the words and ideas which were freely expressed. Having lost that argument a group of states then decided they were just going to ignore it can carry on regardless. So yes, sometimes action is required but only after the argument of words and ideas has been won otherwise you won't have anyone willing to take that action.
A black kid in the class was in tears the rest of the day after overhearing me say it.
Well which fuckwit taught him to get so upset about it?
It's just a fucking word.
The implied full name of Black Lives Matter was always Black Lives Don't Not Matter. But that's confusing, so feel free to think of it as Black Lives Matter, Too. It was a response to police officers not facing consequences after killing unarmed black men in situations that easily could have been handled in non-lethal ways. That is, in response to black lives not mattering.
You think it's racist because some of its members are racists, and you get your news from someone whose job it is to make you angry, so you only get the racist clips. But it's 97% about just not being awful to black people, and it's a God damn no-brainer to support that cause.
He is an entertainer that specifically uses shock to entertain. He has also pointed out the hypocrisy of the left when it comes to freedom of speech. Sorry to say the obvious but if you don't like it then don't watch. If you don't like to hear someone else talking about it then point out the idiocy of them watching in the first place.
Every time he makes the news he gets more money from more people watching.
Reading these responses blow my mind. I truly feel like I'm on Tumblr reading SJW after SJW getting triggered. Grow up!
It seems pretty self evident that what the BLM hashtag means (at least originally) is "black lives matter as much as white lives", as fueled by the many instances of blacks being killed in questionable circumstances, with no consequences at all for those that caused the deaths.
So rebutting this by saying #AllLivesMatter comes across (to some) like saying "all houses matter", ignoring the fact that one of the houses is burning.
While I personally think 90% of social justice political correctness is bullshit, criticizing BLM while ignoring the context of where it's coming from seems misguided.
I wasn't actually saying that, but I remember you'd the guy who loves you invent things people said then get angry about them.
Nonetheless, you're not going to stop racism simply by stopping people using racial slurs. On the flip side, stopping racism while doing nothing about racial slurs is going to be an uphill struggle.
You dont give two shits about the problem. What you give two shits about is appearances. Fuck off, disgusting fuck.
Ah the old make shit up them get angry about it technique? Is there a formal logical galaxy name for that? Argumentum ad angrily making shit uppum.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
Everyone's life is a tragedy. There's nothing special that being black gives you. We all lose our fathers and our mothers. We all lose everything until we lose our lives and in losing those we carve out holes in the lives of those that love us that are never filled. You're no more special or attuned to tragedy than I am.
Issue take down notices to BLM (Black Lives Matter) videos for HATE SPEECH? Issue take down notices to Minister Farrakhan's Videos for HATE SPEECH? Issue take down notices to Al Sharpton's videos for HATE SPEECH? Issue take down notices to Rev. Jesse Jacksons videos for HATE SPEECH? Yes these folks are just as RACIST as the white supremacists and neo-nazi's. If your going to limit the free speech ("hate speech") of one group you had FUCKING better do it to ALL OF THEM! I don't want to hear your FUCKING excuses either because that is all they are EXCUSES!
The Truth is a Virus!!!
The Onion Covered The N-Word Years Ago Did you all forget this? Classic. And applies now. XKCD-level application.
Porn Starlet Apologizes for Using N-Word In Scene With Black Co-Star
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True story -- a number of years ago my 15th Favorite ex-girlfriend said to me, during heavy intimacy,
"I want you to fuck me like a black man."
"Okay, Sadie, sure. But does that mean I'm the black man, or you're the black man?"
This was towards the end of the affair, the part I call "The Farcical End." Knowing what they are, I really truly virtually always enjoy my breakups. That's when the best comedy is generated.
When I was I a kid it was "honky", but I don't think I've heard that in thirty years. Not sure that names matter so much as meanings, but there you go.
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Man: Don't be so racist. If it helps, just think of everyone as being green.
Bus Driver: I'd never thought of it like that before. [pause] Dark greens to the back of the bus
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
File that with theft of a Lada, bigamy, and pirating Justin Bieber songs.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
No I completely understand the historical context of the piece. That same historical context for the statues being torn down. And Casor - the indentured servant whom Johnson successfully argued could NOT end his indentured servanthood - was effectively, by decree of a Court that overturned his freedom from serving his contract - was the first legal slave in the US. Johnson kept him past his contract - and did so with the force of the Court behind him. Casor was the first legal slave in the US - one who's position in life, as a slave, was confirmed and guaranteed by a decision of the Court.
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PS: Snopes confirms that Casor was "among the first to have his lifetime ownership of a servant legally sanctioned by a court." Not Politifact but equivalent. And The Smithsonian states has an article titled "The Horrible Fate of John Casor, The First Black Man to be Declared Slave for Life in America". I guess Snopes and the Smithsonian can no longer be trusted?
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Assuming you're just ignorant, and not a troll, white people were never brought here as slaves. It's true that a small number were brought here as indentured servants to pay for their passage to America, but that's a far cry from slaves.
Read a book, asshole. LEARN something.
Bullshit. There were WHITE SLAVES. They were not indentured servants. They were Irish who rebelled against the crown and were SOLD>
They marched on a public street, holding weapons they are legally permitted to possess. If those inside felt threatened then what they needed was the police, not another armed mob.
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All Lives Matter. That's the core of BLM. BLM is just pointing out the lives not treated the same as others.
anti-BLM activists would have you believe that if a Black house is on fire, then All Houses Matter, and the fire department should pre-wet the neighbour house as much as the one on fire, and no fireman should enter the burning house to save anyone, as that wouldn't be fair to those in the surrounding houses.
BLM is simply stating that sometimes, the house on fire needs more attention.
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http://www.slate.com/articles/... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/0...
Every source I find on the matter indicates that there existed some white slavery, but not in the US, and that "white slavery" in the US existed, as an illegal sex trafficking, and the theory is the idiot racists confused the two to believe that there were white slaves.
There were not white slaves in the US, so "white slavery" as a response to BLM makes no sense.
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Just not true. Slaves are _shitty_ workers. Basically why it ended, world wide. To get them to work, you have to pay someone to stand behind them with a whip. Might as well pay the guy with the whip to work. Free men chasing something work much harder.
The parts of the USA that maintained slavery were the poor parts. Why they lost the civil war.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
If that were true they would be concerned with the group that actually kills the most black people. Instead they focus on cops.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Do you have any examples for the last two of those situations?
Black people use it all the time. Ever hear of NWA? Google it. They call themselves that, yet if anyone else does they somehow feel they must be violent and act offended, and this is ok somehow. It's BS.
Then there is "white privilege". What is that? Whites, especially white men can't complain about anything. That's what it is. Another BS thing the left keeps shoving down our throats. Especially when they are trying to screw society and destroy it so everyone is miserable.
Then why does the BLM crowd get angry when someone says "All lives matter" instead of specifically "Black lives matter"? I am pretty sure they want theirs singled out.
Maybe, just maybe, if blacks weren't committing 40% of violent crime they wouldn't be 30% of those shot by police?
The black community does have a bitch, they aren't getting their fair share of police protection. It really should be about 40% of those shot by police, but they are getting shorted.
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So, we should be happy with innocent unarmed Black men being shot by cops, because Blacks deserve it because Black on Black crime exists. I hear, I understand. I disagree. You fix what you can, and the easy target would be to start with the government, who is provably treating some people differently.
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An unarmed Black man is 10x more likely to be shot than an unarmed white man. The rate at which Black people commit crime has *nothing* to do with that.
And Blacks don't commit 40% of violent crime. They are just convicted more often, since Blacks commit more crime, they are prosecuted more aggressively. It's the tautology club. We assume they are worse, so we make it so.
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While I personally think 90% of social justice political correctness is bullshit, criticizing BLM while ignoring the context of where it's coming from seems misguided.
Personally, I think 90% of political correctness is "Don't be a dick". There are cases where it goes too far, but they are the heavily publicized minority (publicized by the people who prefer to be dicks). But yeah, Black Lives Matter is a statement against the status quo where it often seems like they don't.
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