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46% of Americans Now Have High Blood Pressure (nbcnews.com)
"Millions more Americans will now be diagnosed with high blood pressure," reports NBC News, which describes the condition as "one of the leading killers around the world."
Anyone with blood pressure higher than 130/80 will be considered to have hypertension, or high blood pressure, the American Heart Association and American College of Cardiology said in releasing their new joint guidelines. "It's very clear that lower is better," said Dr. Paul Whelton of Tulane University, who chaired the committee that wrote the guidelines... 130/80 to 139/89 is now considered Stage 1 hypertension and anything 140/90 or above will be considered stage 2 hypertension...
"Rather than one in three U.S. adults having high blood pressure (32 percent) with the previous definition, the new guidelines will result in nearly half of the U.S. adult population (46 percent) having high blood pressure, or hypertension," the groups said in a joint statement... While people may be confused by the change, the heart experts said three years of reviewing the research showed that many fewer people die if high blood pressure is treated earlier. "We are comfortable with the recommendations. They are based on strong evidence," Whelton said.
Slashdot reader 140Mandak262Jamuna blames the pharmaceutical lobby, arguing that "a few years down the line, we all will be taking blood pressure medications," though Dr. Robert Carey of the University of Virginia, who helped write the guidelines, claims there will only be a 1.9% increase.
The new guidelines recommend that everyone watch their diet and exercise, and that people with stage 1 hypertension should also first try eating less salt, more vegetables, fruits, and whole grains before taking blood pressure medications.
"Rather than one in three U.S. adults having high blood pressure (32 percent) with the previous definition, the new guidelines will result in nearly half of the U.S. adult population (46 percent) having high blood pressure, or hypertension," the groups said in a joint statement... While people may be confused by the change, the heart experts said three years of reviewing the research showed that many fewer people die if high blood pressure is treated earlier. "We are comfortable with the recommendations. They are based on strong evidence," Whelton said.
Slashdot reader 140Mandak262Jamuna blames the pharmaceutical lobby, arguing that "a few years down the line, we all will be taking blood pressure medications," though Dr. Robert Carey of the University of Virginia, who helped write the guidelines, claims there will only be a 1.9% increase.
The new guidelines recommend that everyone watch their diet and exercise, and that people with stage 1 hypertension should also first try eating less salt, more vegetables, fruits, and whole grains before taking blood pressure medications.
Millions more will be diagnosed now that the numbers have been adjusted to sell more prescriptions.
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If you're in the USA better to skip the whole grains altogether except as occassional treat, monsanto and company's franken-wheat causes many digestive disorders and elevated blood sugar levels.
That's complete bullshit. There's zero science behind that.
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At age 25, I was 6' 3", 160 lbs, and exercised. I had high blood pressure and the doc wanted to put me on medication. I thought I was too young for high blood pressure medication. I instead started eating salads instead of sandwiches, quit eating deli meat, and avoid processed and high sodium foods. I'm now 35, still 160 lbs, and my blood pressure is well within a normal range. You don't need pills. Eat healthy instead.
Let's just lower the standard so we spend more money on treating nothing.
Might as well lower the weight and BMI that define obesity. God knows how many die each year from being a lard butt.
>That's complete bullshit. There's zero science behind that.
Indeed. You don't need frankenwheat to elevate your blood sugar. Regular wheat will do.
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No kidding. This is dietary advice from the 1980's and all that grain and fruit sugar is not healthy. It's a typical American diet loaded with carbohydrates.
Orgasms lower blood pressure. Americans aren't getting enough sex. Prescribe vibrators.
There is actually a ton of science behind it. I don't have time to dig much up, but a quick Google search returns, for example:
https://www.ruled.me/can-low-c...
Vegetables sure, but grains? No way. Try looking into Keto; it virtually guarantees lower blood pressure.
Carbohydrates cause high blood pressure for the same reason salt does.
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Nutrition table overview (Diets of various tribes and their health.)
Assuming honesty... this makes it blatantly obvious what the problem in.
It's not fat. It’s not even carbs per se. But it' definitely something correlating with short acellular carbs.
Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3402009/ ... So what's different? Maybe our mass-produced potatoes are merely just bags of mostly starch and water, and the taro roots contain much higher quantities of micronutrients. Maybe some other ingredients.
One thing still needs to be clarified though. As e.g. the Kitavans also cook their starchy taro roots for a long time. So they should be no better/worse than our potatoes. Yet the Kitavans are healthy.
I wish I could do a simple difference analysis. E.g. with people from Peru, who eat lots of potatoes which still are very rich in micronutrients.
Sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but Big Pharma isn't getting rich on this one.
I've been taking Lisinopril for high blood pressure for a couple years now and a 90 day supply (1 x 20 mg tablet) costs me $3.00 with insurance. Without insurance it is about 3x-4x higher, from what I've seen.
At 1/3 of a penny per dose, *my cost*, that isn't exactly high profit margin. U.S. Patents expired in 2002, meaning right now it is one of the cheapest medications available. Over the counter aspirin costs more.
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Millions more ARE sick.Frankly, pretty much EVERYONE is sick. They might be slender athletes... but look at their Leptin resistance, and you'll see that they are basically "fatasses" too, who are just starving themselves more. Their energy homeostasis is just as much ruined.
But obviously, "solving" it with prescriptions is as stupid as taking painkillers while continuing to run, head-first, into the wall. Especially if the symptoms are only concealed as long as you pay.
This was the most useful piece of info I ever read on the subject.
(Including the article it accompanies.)
And tell you that you eat all wrong and you have to eat ... well, whatever the latest eating craze is today. Eat this, eat that, and avoid this because it's poison. No matter that the next person recommends eating exactly that and only that, because what you just suggested is killing you within the year.
You know what? Take your eating disorder in the making and stuff it. As we can see right now, whenever we manage to get healthier, we just move the goalpost on unhealthy. Lower number of heart diseases? Just invent a few new ones!
We're getting older than ever before. And we die when we get to age 80 from diseases that didn't exist before because, guess what, we died from other diseases that we don't die from anymore. This is a GOOD thing people. Going on a diet that won't make you die at 80 because what you're eating now is slowly (insert bad thing for your body here) isn't going to do you any good if it gives you (bad thing that makes your organ fail) at 50. Then you won't die at 80 from (bad thing) but at 50 from (other bad thing).
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under the current administration. There's only one person to blame for that...
I looked into the whole "modern wheat" is bad thing and was unconvinced. Basically there was a breeding program that introduced shorter stalked wheat but there was no convincing evidence that such change resulted in some horrid menace. What was notable was the infatuation with einkorn, spelt, emmer and such stating that these were good grains that existed before the evils of corporate wheat breeding. It was as if the proponents of the "modern wheat is murder" camp completely ignored the development of wheat over centuries that happened between these early grains and today's corporate menace. There may be some problems with Japanese short stalked strains having been introduced but there was zero evidence that any such thing was the case. The whole rest of the bad wheat argument was negated by human history over the past few millennia. If wheat is the menace some say it is, then the modern plagues attributed to it should have occurred much earlier in our history.. Now, we HAVE experienced huge changes in farming practice and living situation in sync with the modern plagues of celiac and diabetes. But the wheat plant itself isn't really all that different
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You make a good point. The USSR, Mao-era China, North Korea today, and Venezuela today all prove that you're right. If the goal is to have almost no food, almost no jobs, and almost no economy, then rejecting capitalism in favor of socialism or Communism is definitely the way to go.
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the "wheat" in most U.S. products is not that, not even the same species
In a world where everyone has high blood pressure I suspect we will soon be seeing an uptick of nobody taking such diagnosis seriously amid general growing mistrust of the medical industrial complex for grievances real and imagined.
Ultimately even if you ignore studies showing half of all academic papers are bullshit and work under the assumption there is technical merit to the conclusions it still might be prudent to consider real world implications and take a different tact than California did when declaring everything causes cancer.
physicians don't even have a standardised way to measure blood pressure. One measurement won't tell you much. You can't say my blood pressure
is x/y. it can vary a lot and always depends on the circumstance it is measured. To say my blood pressure dropped by 3 points is stupid, because
my estimate is that the margine of error is at least, depending on the method, between 5 and 10 mm/Hg and not only because of the error of the devices, but also because your physician is a factor for error. Add to that, the variance during the day, the fact that you are supposed to be at rest,
which sometimes is not possible for some people, because physicians make them nervous.
So in order to determine your blood pressure, you need at least several measurements a day, for maybe a week. And then you have to look at the curve and at the activity before after and during the measurement. So saying x/y is high blood pressure is stupid. But since medicine is not a science, but just some amateurs playing with statistics, what can you expect?
Truckers who drive semis and other large vehicles already have to have a medical certificate part of which is to not have high blood pressure over certain limits. This is to avoid strokes and heart attacks causing them to lose control of their vehicles. This is probably a reasonable precaution.
The allowable levels currently set by regulation rather than the AHA guidelines, but there may be pressure from this to tighten those limits. Personally, I don't see this as needed.
Are truckers who have 130/80 BP really a serious threat to our safety?
(Full disclosure: I have a Class A CDL, but don't currently work as a trucker.)
That appears to be about carbs in general, not Monsanto's GMO wheat.
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Oh, I misunderstood then. Yes, pretty much all wheat is bad, GMO or not. Well, perhaps if you could actually dig up whatever wheat was 1,000 years ago before we made it so pleasant and easy to digest it wouldn't be so bad...
Regardless of your lack of understanding of the science, here in the US we have organic vegetables for sale at all the major groceries, and even more at the small local ones!
BTW, the reason that organic is popular is because it is bad for the environment to dump all those chemicals that kills things into the ground! You have less weeds in the field, in the short term, but you also kill the established water plants while fertilizing the "pioneer" weeds!
Also, exposure to concentrated pesticides causes serious health problems for farm workers, and they'll always be having to handle it in concentrated form.
It isn't because the pesticides are directly bad for humans. The problem GMO is only that they then use increased amounts of pesticides.
As an example, the river that runs through my city has a health warning; adults are recommended not to eat more than 2 8oz servings of fish per month because of the dangerously high levels of pesticides in the fish. That's because of farm runoff. But the level of pesticides on the vegetables from those farms is not a direct problem for human health!
There are mostly only 2 types of American beer; the fancy expensive stuff which is made with quality organic ingredients, and the cheap stuff made from malted rice.
Wheat is also not one of the crops that is typically GMO! lol
From wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
As for "not even the same species,":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ;)
Check the dates before deciding if it is really different to what they were eating prehistorically.
See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Personally, I look at the domain name of your source, and choose not to click on it. It isn't a journal, it isn't an educational institution, it isn't an encyclopedia, and it even has a propaganda-friendly name!
Look, if you are not inclined to do your own research then so be it. I don't have any motivation to convince you otherwise. I have read through hundreds of studies and attended numerous talks from actual doctors and scientists on this topic.
And don't get me wrong. Carbs are not inherently evil, but in the quantities that most Americans eat them it is just not good for our bodies. For some people they get away with it, and it probably depends on what they are actually eating and their genetic makeup.
But if you are overweight, have high blood pressure, high cholesterol, high triglycerides, or have type-2 diabetes, then you owe it to yourself to look into this, because you are being lied to by the USDA about grains being healthy.
Fun fact (I hope I'm right): we're the only great ape which can digest carbs. It's done by salivary amylase which turns starch into glucose. Interestingly, it popped up in the salivary system not the gut. It's an adaptation which allowed us to digest tubers and some seeds much better. We haven't had it especially long on evolutionary time scales.
You can actually get much older wheat (spelt). It may well be better than modern wheat which has been intensively bread for productivity, but I expect if you ate lots of refined spelt it wouldn't do you much good. People don't though because spelt is less productive, so the more highly refined stuff is from normal wheat.
Not really trying to many any point. Just interesting I think.
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If you have hypertension and are 20 pounds overweight, lose those pounds! This may be more important than eating a lot of vegetables or eating less salt. Another thing you can do is cut down your alcohol consumption. Drink one light beer instead of 3 pints of 10% alcohol craft beer a day and you blood pressure will be lower.
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Big Pharma is very good at scaring people into thinking they are sick. And the magical cure always seems to be some sort of pill. What big pharma is even better at is coming up with so called "maintenance drugs" that never actually cure anything. Lipitor is a prime example of this. You can take it for 10 years and it will help keep your cholesterol down but the moment you go off it your counts go right back where they were when you started. In other words, you are stuck taking this drug for life. Blood pressure medications work the same way.
Some people might read this article and come to the conclusion that people are less healthy. In fact, all that has happened is that the medical industry (with some nudging I'm sure from big pharma) has lowered the bar. All of a sudden they have a new pool of patients to pitch their blood medication drugs to.
The cold hard reality is that for many people these drugs are completely unnecessary. Blood pressure and cholesterol can be controlled by diet and exercise. But it seems that for many doctors the first course of action is to prescribe pills instead. The medical industry, just like nearly every other industry, has been corrupted by money.
No, you need to improve your reading comprehension and research skills. The wheat we have now took chromosomes from several of the species in your article and combined and mutated into a high yield strain the 1960s, work of Norman Borlaug.
I repeat, the common wheat in the USA now is NOT any of the thousands of year old wheat types in your cut-and-paste.
I certainly don't want to eat the crap they eat.. I just listen to the dietary advise I got from gradma in the 70s. Starchy food makes you fat, eat your greens and avoid too much sugar. You know, common sense.
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They adjusted down the range of BMI which qualified you as overweight or obese.
I don't mind that they're doing this to encourage people to stay in a healthy range as they collect new data. I just wish there was a way the could do it without redefining what certain words mean.
This is nothing more than a scam to get you to cough up more money in insurance premiums. It's about as useful as having non-engineers decide on CAFE standards.
This was guaranteed to happen eventually.
Medicated blood pressure to reduce it is, definitionally, a weighted moving average, trending downward.
Cholesterol is on the same slope.
Blood pressure was considered normal at 140/90 in the 1970's; now 120/80 is "the new normal".
Expect it to continue to decrease, as more medication is prescribed, because -- in fact -- the average will be lower over time, if you average it across all people, rather than just untreated people.
... but nobody ever tells me that I can eat more salt.
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So why link to what I assume is some sort of blog site, if you've been exposed to a bunch of higher quality data? Is it that you reviewed higher quality sources and they said something different, or some better reason?
"Congratulations! You now have a "pre-existing condition", so please enjoy the massive increase in your health insurance premiums!" - literally every insurance company in America
I find it hilarious that this got modded as "Flamebait", as if insurance companies don't list high blood pressure as a pre-existing condition (and don't increase your premiums for it). They sure as shit do. Ask me how I know.
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Ah yes, thank your for your reading from Iggypedia. If you ever make it to Earth, perhaps forward it to somebody so they can make updates.
If your comprehension is so low you have to argue that my comprehension is bad in response to a link to information, well there is no cure for that. I know there are lots of theories, but there is really no cure. If you're making up for yourself what a species is, I don't care. Maybe you're right and the science is all wrong, but I don't care. I'm going to stick with Earth Science.
It says right in the link I gave you what it is a hybrid of, and how long ago it was hybridized. You can't comprehend that knowledge, that's on you not me. My comprehension could be shit, and you still didn't understand how long ago that hybrid was created.
Look up Seralini if you dare.
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I was reading a book on the history of brewing in America and it was interesting to read that the rice, at the time Budweiser pilsner was 'invented', was a premium ingredient. I prefer more full bodied ales, myself, but it is actually pretty tricky to make crisp pilsners by comparison. There aren't enough flavors in there to cover any mistakes. Similarly, vanilla ice cream is made first at the factory and if it has problems then it is remade into chocolate ice cream because it can cover the flavor issues better.
Just because they artificially move the goal posts doesn't mean I have high blood pressure.
Unless it's really high (under the old guidelines) I will not be taking an un-needed pharma pills.
Nice try big pharma, but NO thank you.
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All these BP 'standards' are based on statistical averages and as such may or may not apply to any given individual. It's like BMI charts: also based on statistical models centered around a theoretical 'average person', and as such may tell you you're obese when in fact you just have a lot of lean muscle mass and/or very dense bones (like I have; DXA scan confirmed for both) making you heavier overall. Don't necessarily listen to the scare tactics your doctor may be feeding you, you may not need any medication at all if your BP is slightly higher than normal (like mine is, and always has been, since I was a kid; I'm an endurance athlete, vigorous exercise 5-6 days a week 52 weeks out of the year).
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The problem with this "common sense" is that it changes. Your "common sense" is based upon your experience, and isn't common to others. It was once common sense that eggs, liver, salt, and other items were good for you and then later bad for you. Where's the common sense in that? We've been told to cut fat from our diets, only to be told that once again, it's okay. Margarine was supposed to be the good replacement for bad butter...what happened there? The list goes on and on...nuts, bacon, potatoes. milk, red wine, coffee. Please tell us what the common sense is there.
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There's a distinct difference between researched data and some guy's internet site, and that's really what it is. But go ahead and claim someone else is ignorant because they choose to look for actual evidence instead of something spewed out of your anus.
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NIH says " the precise mechanisms linking salt to high blood pressure are unresolved."...feel free to google it.
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Due to certain problems in my cranial arteries, my neurologist wants my blood pressure to be higher than that new hypertension standard. I guess I'll just have to be an outlier.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Because none of that stuff was common sense, like ever? It was marketing bullshit from establishment. Hell look at the diabetes pyramid. If it looks ridiculous it's because it is! People need to stop letting others tell them how to live- they are being manipulated because they are afraid to die.
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