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There Are More Jobs Than People Out of Work, Something the American Economy Has Never Experienced Before (cnbc.com)
The jobs market has reached what should be some kind of inflection point: there are now more openings than there are workers. From a report: April marked the second month in a row this historic event has occurred, and the gap is growing. According to the monthly Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey released this week, there were just shy of 6.7 million open positions in April, the most recent month for which data are available. That represented an increase of 65,000 from March and is a record. The number of vacancies is pulling well ahead of the number the Bureau of Labor Statistics counts as unemployed. This year is the first time the level of the unemployed exceeded the jobs available since the BLS started tracking JOLTS numbers in 2000. As of April, the total workers looking and eligible for jobs fell to 6.35 million, a decrease from 6.58 million the previous month. The number fell further in May to 6.06 million, though there is no comparable JOLTS data for that month. Under normal circumstances, the mismatch would be creating a demand for higher wages. However, average hourly earnings rose just 2.7 percent annualized in May, up one-tenth of a point from April. Further reading: Why Nebraska has an amazing jobs market but nobody is moving there.
So why are headhunters still calling me up and trying to lowball me on software developer contracts? With H1B Visas getting shut down, they should be especially short on software engineers, shouldn't they?
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
There Are More Part Time/Low Paying Jobs Than People Out of Work, Something the American Economy Has Never Experienced Before
Yeah - death by minimum wage.
There are anywhere from a few million to tens of millions depending on the accounting who just gave up on finding a new job and are not counted anymore.
Labor pool stats are just relative to what we call a proper labor distribution anyway. If 10m millennial women suddenly dropped out of the workforce over a decade to be stay at home wives**, they'd probably call them unemployed. When men who did jobs that were outsourced give up, they call them participants in a ghost economy we won't^H^H^H^H^Hcan't measure Because Reasons.
(**bwahaha you don't think corporate America welcomed a massive influx of women into the workplace out of "repentance for sexism," do you? They found religion on "equality" because adding tens of millions of working women to the economy crippled the ability of the men and lower class women to negotiate with them a la wages.)
Before you give credit to Trump, this is the tail of the economy that Obama revived. See Bare Stearns.
Yep. All it took was an 8-year-long runway and now we're airborne!
for corporations doing poorly to advertise for nonexisting jobs. I recall back in the 1990s, when a local company called Traveling Software, kept advertising for positions after they had laid off over 60% of their workforce --- and surprise of surprises --- they never bothered to fill any of those advertised-for positions.
Do you give Clinton credit for the last 8 years of the Reagan boom?
Hypocrite.
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Yeah, no. Obama was a disaster for this country. I can give you 10 trillion reasons. In 25 years once all the infatuation with him has worn off he will be regarded as one of the worse presidents in history.
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Where we kinda had to allow women to work because we didn't have enough men to do the jobs available?
A higher percentage of women are in paid employment today than during WW2.
We actually did a rather poor job of mobilizing women during the war. But Germany and Japan did far worse, because they were ideologically committed to keeping women at home.
Ignoring the U6 column on the labor statistics again?
I bet so. Howzabouts all the people - especially us 60+ - experiencing age discrimination who aren't even being counted any longer?
Why are wages not rising? Middle class jobs disappearing?
Are these jobs those that require knowing how to use a shovel or jobs knowing how to use advanced programming languages, jobs requiring advanced knowledge and experience in synthetic chemistry, chemical engineering, health care positions such as nursing, structural engineering, architecture, financial management, finish carpentry....? The nature of the openings will make a big difference in the statistic discussed.
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Before you give credit to Trump, this is the tail of the economy that Obama revived. See Bare Stearns
Trump cure cancer, contact friendly alien life, and solve all the worlds problems, and you would still find something to bitch about him. Why can't you people just accept, despite his personal faults, he is actually doing a pretty decent job?
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The people with the best skills to get themselves out of that position... I don't feel too bad for them. ;)
Which has more power: the hammer, or the anvil?
First, there are plenty of people for these jobs but the government doesn't consider them "looking" because they haven't actually looked for a job in the last week or so. It's why the unemployment numbers aren't really that accurate.
Second, and this has been going on for decades, employers will put up fake jobs in that the position doesn't exist, but the employer wants to get a feel for who is out there and what they want in pay.
Third, as the most recent jobs numbers showed, the largest portion of job creation is service jobs. i.e. low wage positions. One could argue that an increase in service jobs is a reflection of a growing economy, it could also mean that automation is taking away some of the more manual jobs which pushes down employment for those who would have done those jobs, thus revealing the only job growth is at your local Kwik E Mart rather than a production line. Since one can't live off those wages, they don't bother applying for such jobs.
While the numbers indicate more jobs than people looking, as the con artist would say, they're fake.
Because he actually isn't? Somehow, I really don't care how good the economy is if my country is being looted by a bunch of crooks. And Trump's administration is the most corrupt in history.
That is all.
You've been ingesting too much Fox News. They've been lying about California's economy for years.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion...
I guess the idea that high taxes and reasonable regulations work pisses off the Ayn Rand-ites, so they have to constantly say that it's failing? That's some serious cognitive dissonance. You should probably get your head out of your ass.
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I thought it would be pretty evident but here is a link to help out.
https://www.usnews.com/opinion...
Depending on who runs the numbers under Obama the national deficit rose by 7 to 10 trillion dollars. Almost doubling or doubling, again on who runs the numbers, off all presidents before him combine. That alone is a disaster.
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More corrupt than Nixon? An you can prove this how?
More likely, he is doing a good job and it sticks in your craw that he is.
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Sure, item one. He doubled healthcare industry profit. Great for people like me who followed the money, but hard fucked the working class.
He was amazing at race baiting. That usaf likely inn itself to be the trigger punt that destroys or country.
Something tells me these numbers are being manipulated. If things really were that good, employers would raise wages. You'd have fast food places offering $20/hr to flip burgers if they needed the labor that badly. Also, including every "job" regardless of full/part time status and suitability is misleading. No one who spent a reasonable effort getting a college degree wants to be working a minimum wage retail job. If all the jobs advertised were professional jobs, or even high-paying factory work this would be an actual story.
One other problem especially in the tech and IT fields is the huge mismatch between employers/employees and the absolutely crappy hiring/headhunting process. Employees lowball their offers, headhunters have zero clue about the jobs they're advertising, and there's a massive fetish for anyone under 30. God help you if you're in your mid-50s and end up on the wrong end of an offshoring/outsourcing. The 28 year old MBA in HR is going to assume you're a dinosaur and immediately pass you over.
It's sure better than 10+% unemployment, but let me know when employers are offering solid, well paying, stable full time work. You can't expect anyone with a family to want to string together 3 part time gigs plus some Uber driving on the side. It's great for the unattached, but a bad way to encourage stable home lives for people.
No, but credit should go where credit is due. With his tendency to inflate his successes, exaggerate facts, and claim things that he didn't actually do makes it hard to know what he's actually done. We have to use metrics and facts (more than just his one-and-only favorite news site), ignoring what he says. And one of those is the unemployment record, which shows no noticeable change in trend after he was elected.
This individual has given evidence of nothing but a high degree of skepticism when he makes a claim - even before he was elected.
We don't have to compliment him on anything he spends most of his time doing that already.
Our national debt per person is actually lower than many other developed countries. Americans are also often the creditors as well as the debtors -- in the form of bonds and bond holding funds.
Obama should have invented a magical accounting method where healthcare spending pays for itself, like the Republicans did for tax-cuts
One reason? He killed 11times more people than bush with drones. He dropped more bombs. More soldiers died under his watch than Bush. He bombed more nations than Bush. He made aspects the the patriot act permanent. Some of the worst intelligence failures happed under his administration. Basically eradicating international trust in America. He was epically ineffectual against North Korea. Many would argue that his net neutrality laws disincentivized the bandwidth war and caused consumer bandwidth accessibility to grind to a halt. And the worst crime of all... he created a vacume and distrust in the left that alienated centrists that led to.... trump...
Had nothing to do with Bush's wars. Nope, nothing at all. The cost and benefit of prior administrations never carries over to the next.
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There is some irony that Trump got elected promising to cut work immigration and revive coal, and the time economy would need more work immigration, and coal energy gets more expensive than renewable.
Didn't Japan have civilians producing war materials in their houses by the end of the war? Of course, that was be ause we had bombed most of the factories, but still.....
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
Mass incarceration is hugely expensive.
Not to the people profiting from it, it isn't.
We'd have all the workers we need had we not aborted millions of Americans. Who knows, we may have killed the one who would have discovered the cure for cancer or invented warp drive.
Science calls it "cause and effect". I call it, "You reap what you sow."
Let's see how these trade wars, financial and environmental deregulation, consumer protection gutting, etc. pan out first before we assign the "pretty decent job" title to him. The state of the nation doesn't turn on a dime. For good or bad, the momentum from previous administrations has a rather significant reach into the next. Unless your definition of "pretty decent job" translates to "hasn't caused nuclear winter," we've some wait and see to do.
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Because he's not. How about you lead off and tell us what "a pretty decent job" entails for the US President? And tell us what other presidents you BELIEVE did "a pretty decent job"? And note that I'm not glorifying any other president either, but it's painfully obvious on a daily basis that President Trump is a complete disgrace in terms of unifying and leading the majority people in this country. The Trump presidency isn't the dumpster fire; our whole nation is the dumpster fire, and Trump is just more dirty fuel being thrown in to make everything worse.
I would argue that the ACA was a net negative, though, and possibly worse than doing nothing in the long term because of the backlash. ACA was the Republican plan, and it sucked in a lot of ways. This got in the way of the single-payer system that we actually need, which would actually work.
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misleading as fuck. the 'jobless' or 'job seekers' is based upon new unemployment claims for a given period, which many don't apply for or are eligible for.
so it's not that there are that many new jobs out there.. it's that sooooo many people have given up looking, have taken shitty part time work instead, or simply exhausted their unemployment.. and none of them count anymore
You confused media coverage with job performance. Try, just TRY to set back and objectively see what policies and results we have gotten out of the Trump Presidency. I know it's hard with the daily barrage of hate spewed form the media, but it can be done. The best jobs report ever comes out and all MSNBC has to say is "HOW DARE THIS IDIOT SAY A GOOD REPORT IS COMING OUT IN THE MORING!" Even though Obama, Bush, Clinton, all did the same thing. Use your thinking more than your listener and you will be surprised at what you see.
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There is a basic truth to your point. When the bill comes due, there will be no place for capital to flee to.
Bets on first major currency to pop? I want the British pound.
The real question: 'When the first currency goes 'shite', will it strengthen the others or cascade failure?' I'm thinking cascade failure, too many interdependencies that fall on each other. Too many banks with exposure in all currencies that are 'too big to fail'.
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Because if we wanted to live in a country where complete adoration of the ruler was required we'd live in North Korea or Thailand with its lese majeste laws. You should always be critical of your rulers, because that's how you make things improve.
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This is truth and so many people don't realize it. The state of the world economy is tied to U.S. economy. If the U.S. economy goes south we take the rest of the world with it.
I expect this will not always be true with China's rising economy, but it currently is.
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The comments in this thread are HILARIOUS.
Lib types, falling all over themselves trying to avoid the ugly truth...Trump is GOOD for the economy.
Sorry, but Obama = record unemployment.
Trump = inverse unemployment, for the first time since they've been keeping track.
NewOOOOOOO! ( Cartman voice)
"There are now more jobs with shit pay and zero benefits than people willing to suffer working them."
That needed fixing.
Your mind is like a parachute. It works best when it's been opened.
Accusations of race-baiting are cr@p. He called asshat cops on some of their worse actions (harassing a man "breaking into" his own house, Holder's attempt to dial back civil forfeiture) instead of calling them "heroes" even if what they did was wrong.
The race-baiting came mainly from people who couldn't stand a Black president actually standing up for civil rights. Many "constitutional conservatives" are only conservative until people who don't look like them demand their Constitutional rights. When that happens, only the Second Amendment seems to matter.
Agreed that Romneycare was worse than single-payer (or ideally, a hybrid public-private system like in UK or Germany).
Proof isn't the problem, the problem is the Republicans not impeaching him despite it all.
Proof is a problem, in that there is none. There is a lot of hearsay, but no proof. Can't impeach without proof.
But then what? Have you thought what happens if Trump is impeached? Do you think there will be a do over in the election or that Hillary will be carried in on a gold throne? No you get Mike Pence, think about that for a moment.
You progressives so worried about what Trump might do, you never think about what removing him will do. Trump is a political outsider. He spends most of his time fighting his own congress. Pence will not have that problem. He is a political animal, and knows how to get things done. He has the contacts and clout to pull it off. Plus he is thinks he is on a mission from god to put gays back in the closet and women back in the kitchen. He will set our country back 30 years.
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Let's see how these trade wars,
What trade wars? All there has been has been a talk brought up in the liberal media but nothing has happened.
Here is what will happen. There will be all of sabre rattling, bitching and moaning. A lot of panic in the press. But in the end both sides will sit down and come up with a trade agreement that nobody is happy with. That is how this works.
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I would argue that the ACA was a net negative, though, and possibly worse than doing nothing in the long term because of the backlash. ACA was the Republican plan, and it sucked in a lot of ways. This got in the way of the single-payer system that we actually need, which would actually work.
Republican plan? Are you out of your mind? The ACA was passed on a party-line vote with procedural tricks to ensure no Republican opposition could stand in the way.
Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be the name of a store, not a government agency.
He was right -- Obamacare ~= Romneycare.
We are overdue for a recession. I warned you.
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Depending on who runs the numbers under Obama the national deficit rose by 7 to 10 trillion dollars.
No, you are wrong! At least get the terms "deficit" and "debt" right. The federal deficit will be $985 billion in 2019 (estimate). Deficit is completely different than debt, and using those terms wrong make you look ignorant. Here are several charts that show the historical and current deficit numbers.
For people who are too lazy to look it up:
National debt: total amount of money we owe.
National deficit: amount we are adding to the debt (this year).
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Yes, it was passed by the Democrats, but that kind of plan was historically backed by Nixon, the Heritage Foundation, and Romney.
They didn't oppose it because they hated the plan, they opposed it because they had to be anti-Obama, and they were left without a plan of their because Obama stole their plan.
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It's worse than that. The EU can also take us all out. Likely so can independent Britain. Certainly China. Hopefully the EU can ride out its southern clowns shenanigans, which are inevitable.
They all have serious problems, every one. My bet is on Britain, they're accounting tricks are the most 'advanced', taking all pensions off book is brilliant!
There is a reason productive farmland is worth about 2-5x what it was 20 years ago, more than lease income can justify. Capital parked, to ride out whatever comes.
It's a chaotic system. A medium sized player like Japan, Korea or India could be the trigger. No telling where.
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Didn't help that Obama started a few more on his own...
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Didn't Japan have civilians producing war materials in their houses by the end of the war?
By then it was too late to make a difference. Much of the production was useless crap, or purely ceremonial, like the hand knitted "death shawls" issued to the Japanese soldiers sent to Iwo Jima.
Both Japan and Germany planned for a quick "knockout" victory, and a very short war. Months, not years.
Germany actually came close to knocking out the Russians before winter and the Moscow counteroffensive. Japan's strategy was completely delusional.
What is the impeachable offense, and what is the proof to back up the offense?
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My favorite (albeit tragic) was Japan training school kids and women to defend beachheads with spears......
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Again the HornyWumpus speaks truthfully. I don't know what will trigger it but I do know this. If it does fall down it will be the
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Economy is in good shape and getting better. We're finally addressing the failures of NAFTA, killed the TPP, and getting China (and the EU, to a lesser extent) to have real talks about protectionism and free trade. Not to mention getting a little sit-down with North and South Korea. And pulling us out of insane agreements with Iran (who never signed in the first place) that exclude inspections of all military sites. Great jobs report. Positive trends among public opinion that we're on the right track. Actual progress on prison reform. Unleashed the dogs of war against ISIS and effectively ended them (via elimination of 99% of all ISIS-held territory).
But other than those, and many more, yeah - what's he ever done for us?
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If it does fall down it will be a disaster of Biblical proportions.
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Dissent is patriotic! Except when it was against President Obama, then it was just racism...
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The article isn't specific as far as I can tell but is this in terms of dollars or in terms of percentage? e.g. an increase from $5/hour to $8/hour is a 60% improvement but the end result is still terrible.
Trump cure cancer, contact friendly alien life, and solve all the worlds problems, and you would still find something to bitch about him. Why can't you people just accept, despite his personal faults, he is actually doing a pretty decent job?
I will when you tell me what he's done? (seriously, I'm not anti-Trump, I'll give credit where it's due)
I'll start you off:
Tax cuts. This is what I consider his biggest achievement. Unfortunately it's only good if you are rich, for everyone else it's a shocker.
Employment. I give him credit for maintaining Obama's hard work to turn around the sinking ship, however there are two caveats. Job growth is slightly less than it was under Obama, so even though it's good it's not as good, and it's a lot easier to maintain short term momentum when you're already headed in that direction. The second caveat is that a lot of pro-business policy will only be good short term. These types of moves come with a risk of long term damage (see GWB and the GFC).
North Korea. This is a wait and see as nothing has actually happened yet. And the stuff that has happened seem to have nothing to do with Trump even though he makes claim for them (eg the united Korea Winter Olympic team)
That's all I got. To balance, here's the list of bad things...Oh wait... I don't have a hundred years to list them all in detail....
This. It actually made things more expensive for the middle class, but brought the lower class up. That's not really a good compromise, because now it's cheaper relative to income for the poor to be insured.
Single payer works elsewhere, but partly only because the US pays disproportionately for all the R&D of new drugs. We would have to be willing to fund more medical research, not just collectively pay the hospital bills.
First, millennials are sneered at if they want a living wage without having a degree. Have to better yourselves to be employed, doncha know.
Next, millennials are sneered at for not being clairvoyant to pick the exact degree that will be in demand when they graduate (You Are Here).
Finally, don't forget to sneer at those millennials for "taking on student loans they couldn't afford".
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There's the dozens of businesses he opened in Saudi Arabia while running for president - and then gave them billions in weapons once he was president. Democrats would rather talk about Stormy Daniels while going full McCarthyite, though.
Is this performance art, or is your head really so far up Trump that he can skip his annual prostate exam, because he can rely on an eyewitness account?
CNBC states it, so it must be true? Come on ... I don't believe this article on little bit. The jobs I see posted in my area for "entry level" are asking for all kinds of experience. I just have a general distrust of corporate media.
The US is already in a (useless) trade war with some of his closest economical allies. Just last week Trump imposed a 25% on imported steel and a 10% tariff in imported aluminum. Canada, Mexico and most of Western Europe retaliated with tariffs of their own.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/...
I'm kinda surprised Republicans are not keeping track as this is exactly the same thing Bush Jr. tried in 2002. It was such a shitshow that they had to withdraw in less than a year.
Your argument about single payer working elsewhere is ridiculous. There's no rational reason for US citizens to subsidize private profits from legal monopolies with severe regulatory capture, just for the sake of medical research of the rest of the world. Other countries with similar resources should be pulling their own weight, and it's a horribly inefficient way to fund research.
Basically all of the useful research is taxpayer funded while still being under unchecked, for-profit monopolies, with only a nominal amount going back to the researchers and universities that engage in said research. Take the NIH grants and university spending, tack on money from 10% of our military budget, release them to the public in a generics process that consists of making untainted chemical equivalents, and we'll get at least twice as many useful drugs at a fraction of the cost.
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$850 in 1977 is about $2500 today.
https://www.saving.org/inflati...
That literally took less than 10 seconds on Google
While probably not fully explaining the numbers, one can reasonably surmise that these factors pushed the needle a bit. Companies post job listings for short-term contracts for specialized developers all the time, some before their project can even hope to see funding. Then the headhunters see the job listings and make redundant job listings. I dealt with a lot of that crap after my last contract but now I'm somewhere I like :)
Nothing said about the nature of the jobs or the wages for them. Nothing about the cost of health and accommodation. Nothing about the numbers of people that are no longer counted as looking for work.
So, things are clearly looking up. There are even concerns over wage inflation. Translation, research worth less than a used happy meal.
The sensible thing to do is to go into massive debt like everyone else, but only if everyone else is.
The assets you buy with the debt, say housing, will rise along with everyone else and you will happy. If you didn't go into debt, you would just end up unhappy and jealous of all those who did.
If there is a problem, daddy government will save everyone anyway, interest rates to zero, stimulus packages, that kind of thing. Everyone just dusts themselves off and climbs back on for the next ride.
An again, where is the proof?
You really that dumb or do you actually believe that Pence would be better than Trump?
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You can claim that the economy is doing fine, but you don't understand the incredible burden capitalism places on its land, its resources, and its people. Capitalism has failed most of this country, and it's going to take some 1%-ers or 0.1%-ers naturally losing their wealth before they realize their destructive game is coming to an end.
So other than capitalism, what do you think we should use? What non-capitalist economy has shown itself to be better for resources, the land, and people?
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Proof is a problem, in that there is none. There is a lot of hearsay, but no proof.
If that is true then why is the president always upset about the probe into election tampering? Why won't he release his tax returns? Why has he tried to fire Mueller? He literally cannot go 24 hours without tweeting about it.
Can't impeach without proof.
Incorrect. Impeachment does not have any prerequisites.
You progressives so worried about what Trump might do, you never think about what removing him will do. Trump is a political outsider. He spends most of his time fighting his own congress. Pence will not have that problem. He is a political animal, and knows how to get things done. He has the contacts and clout to pull it off.
That would be an improvement over the current situation. You seem to misunderstand people's grievances about the current president.
Plus he is thinks he is on a mission from god to put gays back in the closet and women back in the kitchen. He will set our country back 30 years.
Much as the current president is finding out, things in government are easier said than done. Should the need arise, he too could be impeached.
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I'm not in a good position to respond in great length, but remember: capitalism has directly opposed all forms of communism throughout the world, going so far as to try and eradicate all active communist governments. This eradication has been mostly successful, as it pushed most counties involved into a position to be amicable to trade with the US. Communism had its back against the wall, fighting for its existence. I don't think those governments ever stood a chance merely because of the open opposition of the USA and capitalist allies. We'll never actually know of communism COULD succeed, just that it hasn't done too well so far. Then take a look at Nordic countries. They used their association to capitalism to grow a more sustainable system of democratic socialism. I'm not an expert on their policies, but they are genuinely working for the betterment of their citizens. Capitalism doesn't do that unless forced with impending crisis, or unless someone dons the name of "philanthropist" and gives something for the social kickbacks of looking like a kind and generous rich person. Greed motivates capitalism, which makes it inherently untrustable to me.
Or it could totter on, for a long, long time. Every crooked body holding up the one that threatens to fall. Knowing that's the cheaper option, short term. Just putting the nitrous to the printing presses.
That's the tiny % of my brain that thinks something like bitcoin is inevitable, in the long run. Government money will get too 'expensive' to use. Banks already are, when you're flexible about how much tax you owe...
Always wanted to build a reverse 'turbotax'...Start with how much you can 'afford', what the IRS knows, tells you the figures you need to justify. I digress.
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Capitalism is an economic philosophy. The Nordic countries are capitalistic, too (called the Nordic Model) from an economics perspective. The opposite of capitalism would be communism, and I'm wondering if anyone can point to a communist economy that is better for the resources, the land, and the people than capitalist economies?
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So we haven't had real communism yet? Perhaps the failure of communism is the way it is so easily hung-up at dictatorship - the concentration of all power into the State immediately corrupts those heading the State to simply stop there and not share with anyone. Meaning that communism will never be realized, because the fatal flaw of dictatorship in its path.
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Precisely. I could create a million jobs. If you want to get minimum wage for an 18 hour variable shift developing high-end HPC systems for life-critical systems with personal responsibility if it should not work for some reason.
I mean, why aren't you all flocking to it?
Oh, by the way, the jobs are all the other end of the country, 200 miles from the nearest town, there's no houses available in that town anyway, there are no direct roads (you have to take kayak, a hot air balloon, and two steam trains every day to get to work, and it take 5 hours to do so).
There's a very big difference between "a job exists" and "a job someone might take exists" and "a job that YOU might take exists".
It's really easy to create jobs. Pay people minimum wage to pick up litter, or sew fishing nets, subsidise it via government funds. That doesn't mean that ANYONE will do those things for that price.
I think it's quite telling the job situation versus who your president is. Sure, there are many jobs. Even in the upper echelons of government. Just sign your soul away here, and expect to get screwed over.
GMO crops, and improved fertilizer and water application, have led to a huge increase in crop production on the same area of land. That's a big reason farmland is worth more. Organic crops are less productive, but worth a premium, which creates more competition for intensive farming land.
Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
Those are genetic dispositions and socializations. If I'm trying to fix a full stack web Problem every day all day for months or years in a row it will have an impact on my emotional and mental composition. ADHDs are hunters and gatherers in a settler and farmer world.
I've enrolled in college recently and have a Projekt group made up of me (48, senior developer) and three 19 year old nerdboys. And I mean total all out over the top excess nerds. These guys couldn't care less about their appearance or habitus. They do still care but only to the utmost minimum. They care orders of magnitude more about getting our little Java thing done with and back to playing with a bazillion PLs, getting into C++ and trying out that new Tensor Flow thing.
Linus Torwalds would be a abysmally shitty dancer (I presume) but he's one of the best Programmers in the world. That's also due to his mental composition.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
This is pretty spot on. In a cyberpunk post scarcity economy practical stoicism is an attractive option. As an IT expert I could easyly earn 80 000 Euros and more even without having a degree but I chose not to.
I spent the better part of my last decade working part time, social dancing as a Tango Bum / Tango Nomad (yeah, there is such a thing :-) ) and generally taking it easy. I'm now ramping up to rake in a little cash to get myself some Microappartment or micro house for my old age while at the same time embracing minimalism even further. But still it's part time work and part time college. Wouldn't want it any other way right now. I'm ok with wearing 8 Euro t-shirts as standard garb and riding the bike and public transport. And doing my yoga with YouTube and not in some expensive class.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
This is supposed to be a free market for jobs and if you don't like the pay or conditions, you're told not to take the job. So now people are not taking the job, it's suddenly a BAD thing??? How does THAT work?
If the only way you can get people to accept your job vacancy is by putting the threat of starvation and death for their family on your side, then you're NOT offering a job. You're demanding a slave.
You mean the guy who was trying to break into his own house, and when the cop asked him for ID. The guy became belligerent. Yes, very racist. It's not like police ask for ID all the time when they give the person the benefit of the doubt, to see if they were the person in question. And then Obama jumping into the entire thing, and flaming the "well maybe he was a racist." Nope, no race-baiting there. How about "his son trayvon" who had a long history of petty crime, and was well on his way to being yet another banger? Nope that wasn't race-baiting at all. Especially when the media got on board and called the guy who shot him white(because it fit the narrative). Remember, the progressives set the standard on what racism is on that. They attacked McCain, Bush, and several other people and used hispanic as race. You don't get to play one-off with this. Same rules for both sides hypocrite.
How about his race baiting statement in front of the UN with regards to Ferguson. He was a race baiting piece of shit, and no different then any other. The fact that you immediately jump to the "people who were his critics were the real race-baiters" simply shows that you, yourself have a serious racism issue.
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A higher percentage of women are in paid employment today than during WW2.
Also, (parts of) the 20th century has been very anomalous in terms of female employment. for most of the time, people able to work have worked, and we seem to be returning to that.
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Tax cuts. This is what I consider his biggest achievement. Unfortunately it's only good if you are rich, for everyone else it's a shocker.
You mean it's good for everyone who doesn't live in a big city, or in specific coastal areas. Where the state was using tax-offsets via federal taxes to lower what they were actually charging people. Suddenly, when those places got to pay their fair share, their taxes went up. While everyone in flyover country as democrats like to say, went down.
Employment. I give him credit for maintaining Obama's hard work to turn around the sinking ship, however there are two caveats. Job growth is slightly less than it was under Obama, so even though it's good it's not as good, and it's a lot easier to maintain short term momentum when you're already headed in that direction.
Here's the problem. The regulations Obama put into place, hurt wages a lot. It discentivized employers to hire new people or increasing the rate of pay. With things like the ACA, forced mandates and so on, that further pushed employers to cut back, or even lay people off. Which is why when the regulations dropped off wages started spiking upwards(something they haven't done since ~2002). Remember Obama's words that low GDP growth was the new normal? Why did it spike just after Trump was elected. Why have we seen a double GDP rate(not real GDP), but flat GDP go up when regulations were removed. Especially when the GDP is now being revised upwards towards 4%. Don't confuse the two either. One is a measurement without inflation, the other with.
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Incorrect. Impeachment does not have any prerequisites.
Incorrect. Impeachment requires a felony, misdemeanor, or high crimes.
With none of that, you have nothing. Clinton was impeached for lying. Nixon for evidence tampering. And ONLY the house can determine that level if at all.
That would be an improvement over the current situation. You seem to misunderstand people's grievances about the current president.
Get out of your social and political bubble, and go find the people who spent a decade suffering under Obama's shit policies and regulations. You'll find they're quite happy vs the big metropolitan city folk. Just like those of us in Ontario, that suffered under the 'big city' pandering by the Liberal Party, to Toronto and the GTA. Guess what? They no longer exist as a official political party.
Much as the current president is finding out, things in government are easier said than done. Should the need arise, he too could be impeached.
Yes, it's far more difficult to get things done when both sides are playing for the same team isn't it. That same team? Well it doesn't appear to be the average person in the US. But you seem to be quite happy to get in the way of it as well.
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to have real talks about protectionism and free trade.
Yes, I suppose tit-for-tat tarriffs with the EU are "talks" for sufficiently small values of "talk".
And pulling us out of insane agreements with Iran
Right so he's giving Iran a good reason to restart their nuke program. Great!
(who never signed in the first place)
Daily Fail links have no credibility and ad nothing but noise to the discussion. Posting one says more about you than it dos about facts.
Actual progress on prison reform.
I'll believe it when I see it. Of course he could have done something already via an exective order. As far as I can tell all he's done himself is promise to not refuse to sign a bill that may or may not come across his desk. That's super inspiring.
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You really that dumb or do you actually believe that Pence would be better than Trump?
I always figured Pence was the Republican insurance policy against impeachment.
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Naturally, the Republicans hate the Democrats so much they won't even vote for their own plan if a Democrat agrees with it.
That's what the party of NO is all about these days.
People just aren't paying attention... Trump's style is confrontational, much like you see in business. And it works. Re-opening discussions with China RE: trade. Getting North Korea to the table. He'll start a bit of a tiff with the EU and Canada, and parties will come to the table and actually talk and discuss and results will happen (like we've seen elsewhere).
As far as prison reform, your desire to use executive orders speaks volumes... Haven't you learned yet? Live by the EO, die by the EO. Push for actual legislation that lasts. But hey, that's not dictatorial - which apparently you crave?
PS: if you look at the Daily Mail link, you'll see another link to the actual letter from John Kerry's State Department that confirmed that, yes, months after the "agreement", Iran still had NOT signed it. But that's OK, intention is more valuable than results, right?
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Incorrect. Impeachment requires a felony, misdemeanor, or high crimes.
And there lies the problem, "high crimes" isn't a legal term and thus anything can be considered a high crime. Though, I think obstruction of justice is currently the most apparent crime. We'll find out more after the FBI probe is completed. Why isn't your guy willing to talk to Mueller?
go find the people who spent a decade suffering under Obama's shit policies and regulations.
Which policies and regulations were they suffering from? Was it the retaliatory tariffs? Oh wait, that's what they are enjoying from Trump.
You'll find they're quite happy vs the big metropolitan city folk.
Their actual conditions have not improved but they may perceive it as being better.
Yes, it's far more difficult to get things done when both sides are playing for the same team isn't it. That same team? Well it doesn't appear to be the average person in the US.
So, you thing Congress enabling a president that "thinks he is on a mission from god to put gays back in the closet and women back in the kitchen" which would "set our country back 30 years" is what the "average person in the US" would want?
I'm not sure why you think this is a partisan issue but you seem to be blinded by tribalism.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
I graduated HS under Regan; the guy who started the whole "War on Drugs" while importing Cocaine for money for weapons for Iran.
They MADE the entire Drug war, which we know now was a war on the poorer classes.
Hell it wasn't a problem until little White Girls started fucking Black men for Cocaine, then it was a Scourge.
We are still living that lie, as a country.
This is just the latest round.
Truth isn't Truth - Guliani
Who the fuck would buy a used mattress from Trump?
lol.
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Trump is riding the wave Obama made.
It's starting to come to an end; the random BS Putin is having him do is having an effect.
We're screwed, long term, unless we get an impeachment soon.
I just hope they drag Trump and the rest of his Repub conspirators out, and hang them from those nice trees around the Mall.
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Right, the government just hands out unemployment and food stamps infinitly.
Your understanding of such programs seems rather limited.
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People just aren't paying attention... Trump's style is confrontational, much like you see in business. And it works.
Speaking of not paying attention... You haven't seemed to notice that his confrontational business style has led to multiple bankruptcies. It's also kind of hilarious that you seem to think it's a business thing not an international relations thing. Because yeah international relations never got confrontational.
True story.
As far as prison reform, your desire to use executive orders speaks volumes... Haven't you learned yet? Live by the EO, die by the EO. Push for actual legislation that lasts. But hey, that's not dictatorial - which apparently you crave?
Well at least you're both miss representing me as well as the original article. It's kind of telling that the only way you can come up for support for Trump is to invent an alternative reality. Given that though there's little point in debating further since you seem only lightly tethered to this reality.
PS: if you look at the Daily Mail link,
Not gonna. If what you say is true it'll be available from a reputable source as well. I'm not going to waste time reading an unreliable source since I'd only have to double check it anyway. The fact you're insistent on using known unreliable sources makes me think you have done motivating too do so.
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Trump deported many low wage jobs as illegal immigrants. Now of course those positions are open for takers. but no American wants to do this dirty task for so low earning.
Atari rules... ermm... ruled.
That'll be why there's so much video footage of women working in factories in Germany during the early 40s.
They broadcast it to encourage more women to work in the factories. They demanded children work in the factories for a day a month, more during the holidays. They imported female (and male) labour from the captured territories.
German war production had challenges but a lack of women in the workforce was not one of them.
My employer provides a vending machine that produces weak coffee that tastes like a mixture of all the flavored options it has ever vended with just a touch of machine grease. It costs slightly less than the Starbucks in the cafeteria. They also provide a k cup machine with a filtered water supply, but it has the same flavor problem and you have to provide the kcup. "Mmmm, hazelnut mocha vanilla oolong cinnamon lady grey Columbian French breakfast Vienna roast, my favorite!"
refactor the law, its bloated, confusing and unmaintainable.
Prof. Gates showed his papers. Cop should have seen he lived there, told him to have a nice day, and gone to fuck off. Instead, he chose to stay, probably go on a fishing expedition for warrants. That's when Gates (tired after a long trip) got snippy. BTW, it's not actually illegal to be rude to a cop. Nah. Screw that cop. The US would be better off with less powerful cops who are too scared of bad publicity to do their jobs zealously.
Regardless of Trayvon Martin's past history, he was being stalked by an armed man. An armed man with a recent history of armed domestic abuse.
Regarding Ferguson, the shooting may or may not have had merit. But their police force and town government are pure corrupt scum, deriving a large % of their revenue from tickets for very minor offenses and associated court costs. Basically a parasitic local government, similar to (but not quite as bad as) Tenaha, TX.
Obama brought some very real issues about overzealous, corrupt law enforcement to the front, and I'm glad they're finally being discussed. Cops are humans, not the blameless "heroes" that many Americans liked to think of them as after 9/11.
Today's "liberals" would make the Reagan Democrats look like hippies. They're screaming "Russia Russia Russia" 24/7, blaming them for every bump in the night, going so far as to red bait right-wing Fox News hosts, and engage in a prosecutorial witch hunt with zero basis for an investigation, so yeah, they've gone full McCarthy.
Democratic voters or democratic politicians? Constant propaganda from the latter has snowed much of the former. Russian interference is just accepted as fact, like Saddam's WMD's.
Just gave it to you. Heard of the persecution of Don Siegleman? If the DOJ can throw him in prison for an actual nothingburger, it could easily nail Trump for his Saudi deals. But the Mueller witch hunt isn't about finding corruption, it's about the Deep State telling Trump who's boss.
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Pence is less likely to start WWIII. Why democrats thought it would be a great idea to red bait a thin skinned blowhard, attacking him every time he announces a deescalation as a Putin puppet...they're making the Birthers look like nobel prize winners at this point. Trump could have missiles in the air to Moscow and those idiots would still find a way to claim that's what a Putin Puppet would do. Even as nuclear winter is coming.
Can you back up those assertions or is this just doom-and-gloom prognostication? I don't like Trump, but we're Slashdot, we should be holding ourselves to a higher standard of conversation.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not entirely sure about the universe - Einstein
Concentration camps, on the other hand...
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Housing speculation has absolutely screwed up the cost of living for any job center and thus a company's profitability standards are at odds with being able to pay people enough to work their jobs. As a result, people need to commute farther than in the past, those transportation systems get over-burdened, and then we all pay higher taxes for freeway widening which never actually improves one's commute. It just allows more people to have the same slow commute.
It all still comes down to property policy. Investors went NUTS banking on the profitability of housing from the 1990s through 2007. They made a lot of money so when the smoke cleared and homes started bottoming out, they invested again. And it's not just corporate investors, it's private investors who probably don't even consider themselves "investors". The trend of "buy, appreciate, move, and then rent-out" is now a private home finance staple. In fact, there are so many companies out there now to HELP you become a land lord, it seems like you'd be crazy not to do it. "I got mine."
And we're in another housing bubble. A colleague of mine recently retired and is downsizing from his 3b/2ba home to a 2b/2ba condo. He and his wife just sold for $70,000 over asking... all in cash.
It's not a wage problem, it's a housing speculation problem. If we want to solve the problem, the main problem areas the states where this is a bigger issue NEED to make big change... likely by increasing property taxes on non-owner-occupied single family homes. Then the cost of housing will drop and THEN you'll see demand for a more rational minimum wage increase... because right now the $15 minimum wage doesn't prop anyone up but landlords.
There's no health issue at all with most of the spectrum.
Probably the correct term is environmentally challenged—they just don't fit the Department of Education's main-sequence all-weather Cinderella slipper, not without great difficulty.
But, inshallah, they often get along in life just fine, once they dial into their unique groove, sufficiently off the beaten track of the main sequence.
The rare Anchorage Ethiopian also has a his own special personal "health" consultant, only in this case it's not some doctor with extensive training in the vagaries of human cognition and a well-thumbed DSM-V groaning under his desk, it's some junior sales flunky at Mark's Work Warehouse (or the Alaskan equivalent) who's A+ on layering pull-over parkas.
Lay it on me!
Baby, it's cold out there!
And then they set to work.
Most people go into debt to buy rapidly depreciating assets, shiney.
'Crippling debt' more or less means your going to lose anything that secured any debt in the long run, leaving you with the now old car and memories.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Not really, Very little farmland is used to grow 'organic', bumper crops lead to low prices, nothing has fundamentally changed in the last 20 years. Huge increases? Nonsense, they were already using very productive hybrids 20+ years ago.
Farmland is still INXS in America, but is now worth much more. It's parked capital.
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Obama slowed the recovery with his money wasting programs. Face facts. We have hindsight now, there is no more argument.
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Hasn't the administration been working on this very thing diligently?
Yes delusional. You'd think that the War to End All Wars would have taught them something. But no their delusions of grandeur taught them nothing. Historically the Hundred Years War is a more likely result of armed conflict than the Seven Days War.
I call BS. My place of employment just hired a programmer. We have three more positions posted, all of which will be filled within the next month. All four of these people will be trained in our systems, since there is no other way to get workers who can perform these jobs.
Not all Northern Europeans would do that. If you kill all the people that rebel against slavery, pretty soon all you are left with are the people that do the bare minimum necessary to survive under the oppressive system and the attractive women that decide letting themselves be raped at will is preferable to being beaten. It sounds kind of racist, but in effect that is what was done to the involuntary immigrants to the Americas. The Africans that came here under their own free will are a different stock, they are the ones that had the resources to escape the poverty and bad government in their own home countries.
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Thanks, Trump!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
The economy started turning around immediately after the election, but before Trump went into office
The economy was starting to boom well before the election. Trump campaigned against it, saying it was a bubble, that the high stock market couldn't be trusted. Of course he changed his tune after the election and frequently talked about how great the stock market was, but he sure trashed that sort of thinking when the credit went to someone else.
One reason? He killed 11times more people than bush with drones.
A number of reasons, but one of them is: technology marches on. Drone strikes became more feasible under Obama than Bush, because drone technology become a hell of a lot better. Drones become more easy to control, could carry more payload, able to enter areas previously inaccessible.
Drone strikes sure beat dropping a bomb from a plane onto a building, or a tomahawk fired from a cruiser offshore. More of a chance of hitting the target you want to hit and missing the people you don't want to hit.
Many would argue that his net neutrality laws disincentivized the bandwidth war and caused consumer bandwidth accessibility to grind to a halt.
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Yeah. Sure.
You do know what an asset is don't you?
You obviously have to not be a moron. Buy the assets that everyone else is buying, houses, stocks, etc, tulips if that's what the rest are into. The demand will keep them rising by itself. You need to also understand the difference between massive and crippling.
Smart people will be ready for the problem and the first to dust themselves off. Now they get a headstart for the next ride too.
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Something attributed to Nixon and the Heritage Foundation can, though. It's a right-wing alternative to single payer/
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No Gates did not show his papers. He refused, that's why he got arrested. Read the arresting log, go on. DO IT.
Regardless of Trayvon Martin's past history, he was being stalked by an armed man. An armed man with a recent history of armed domestic abuse.
And Martin went all the way back home, called his GF. Then went looking for the guy. - That's court testimony. He went looking for a fight, and Zimmerman had facial and body injuries consistent with self-defense, and being jumped. That's again the court testimony.
You're not disproving any point on Ferguson, or the fact that the guy was shot for a far different reason.
The only thing Obama did was lie. Especially since whites are more likely to be shot by police then blacks. That this isn't an overzealous issue, as we're seeing by all that bodycam footage these days. That when they started demanding bodycams, and the police said SURE WE'LL DO THAT! And now these black protest groups are screeching that they no longer want the cams. You're a damned racist by your own words, that's spewing the same shit that you're accusing others of. And you don't like it.
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It's not only a racial issue. It's an issue of many American cops being overzealous assholes, drunk on power, that don't know to leave well enough alone. They're the agents of a vicious set of governments that imprisons more people per capita than any civilized country and which tried to force people to conform to anti-pleasure victimless crime laws. Anything that erodes their power and authority is a good thing.
As far as the Gates case, it's not like cops whose widdle feewings get hurt ever lie. Cops are the most honest, upstanding citizens, right?
So myopic of you, ignore the message because you don't like the messenger! The JCPOA was never signed and Kerry's State Department confirmed this fact in their own letter to Mike Pompeo. The fact you aren't aware of this - but sources you shame as untrustworthy are - should give any thinking person pause about their own beliefs in the quality of sources. Stick with your own slanted coverage, and fail to learn what is really happening in the world...
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A small number of companies have bought up just about everything and they don't compete with each other on wages. Add outsourcing and H1-Bs and wages stagnant. The final piece to the puzzle is that labor is no longer organized and so there's no pressure to increase wages from Unions.
As for why economists aren't talking about this, well, the Koch Bros and the like have been buying out cash strapped University departments with hefty donations. When that doesn't work they just get buddy buddy with deans and the like. And if all else fails these are public Universities and they can use their political connections to get what they want. Some of the big schools like MIT will still buck the trend, but then again they own the media now so they can keep the occasional study that blows up their narrative out of sight and mind.
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we could pay off the national debt in about 15 years from the money we'd save switching to single payer healthcare. Look it up.
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Here's the problem. The regulations Obama put into place, hurt wages a lot. It discentivized employers to hire new people
Yet employment increased the most under Obama than either Bush or Trump. I'm not making a political statement, merely pointing out that the observations don't match your claim.
Remember Obama's words that low GDP growth was the new normal? Why did it spike just after Trump was elected. Why have we seen a double GDP...
Removing regulations improves GDP because it usually means someone is being shit on for profit, and the cost of the shitting-on is being deferred to the future where it will ultimately cost more to fix. It happened under Reagan in 1987 and Bush jnr in 2007, and if Trump gets 8 years it will happen again.
This is why we have regulations, not because we love red tape, but because appropriate regulations applied appropriately actually improve the quality of life for everyone, not just rich people.
"This year is the first time the level of the unemployed exceeded the jobs available since the BLS started tracking JOLTS numbers in 2000."
Is that not the opposite of the heading?
Communism's big flaw is its implementation. Its implementation has been too big to succeed. Socialism at the local / community level is what's needed, not an overarching communist system of control. But socialism requires people working together towards a common goal. That goal should be enough of a reward for the community to continue working towards, or create new goals to strive for. Often, we have to join companies in order to work towards a goal (usually, it's someone else's goal, not necessarily shared by you), but due to the profit motive, net increase of worth is always the main goal of a capitalist business. If we could set up small sustainable systems that work towards goals, we'll be setting up an infrastructure to keep our communities stable regardless of what politicians and the federal government decide. I'm working towards a community model that doesn't need or want input from the feds except when absolutely necessary.
So myopic of you, ignore the message because you don't like the messenger!
You'd like to think that wouldn't you? Ignoring a known liar is rational.
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Not only have there been labor under-runs, in the 1940's even ditch diggers were in demand
It is only now that Capitalists think there is something wrong with paying high enough wages to get the people they need.
Housing shortage for workers? Not if you pay them $200K!