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Online Pornography Age Checks To Be Mandatory in UK From 15 July (theguardian.com)

The UK's age verification system for online pornography will become mandatory on 15 July, the government has confirmed. From a report: From that date, commercial providers of online pornography will be required to carry out "robust" age verification checks on users, in order to keep children from accessing adult content. Websites that refuse to implement the checks face being blocked by UK internet service providers or having their access to payment services withdrawn.The digital minister, Margot James, welcomed the introduction of the rules, saying: "Adult content is currently far too easy for children to access online."

She added, "The introduction of mandatory age verification is a world first, and we've taken the time to balance privacy concerns with the need to protect children from inappropriate content. We want the UK to be the safest place in the world to be online, and these new laws will help us achieve this." Will Gardner, the chief executive of Childnet, said: "We hope that the introduction of this age verification will help in protecting children, making it harder for young people to accidentally come across online pornography, as well as bringing in the same protections that we use offline to protect children from age-restricted goods or services."

295 comments

  1. Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Yey for Free Speech in Great Britain.

    1. Re:Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Usually this is the start and then other online activities will follow - time to revolt England fox?

    2. Re:Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Usually this is the start and then other online activities will follow - time to revolt England fox?

      Yanks shouldn't go around giving lessons on freedom since with all your second amendment love you have been fucked front and back by the TSA for the last decade and more. And have done nothing about it.
      So you're nothing but hot air balloons. You talk the talk but don't walk the walk even with hundreds of milions of firearms freely available.

    3. Re: Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My answer to any proponent of "hate speech" legislation or "free" healthcare is to go to Europe where there are fewer freedoms and more free things which you are obgligated to pay for in the socialist caste prisons of many of those European states. Feudalism was never entirely extinguished there.

      1) You pay more per capita into the health care system compared to Europeans with taxes alone. Then you pay privately on top of that.
      2) You probably mean something else than feudalism because the main characteristic of feudalism is that you have an upper class that acquires more wealth from land ownership and a lower class that have no other option than to rent. That is exactly the way the US is going right now.

      Stick to the "hate speech" answer and leave the other things out of it.

      Except, most European nations doesn't have English as a primary language and "hate speech" doesn't translate very well. More often the laws are along the lines of "you aren't allowed to instigate murder against groups of people". (AKA anti-terrorist laws.)
      Hate speech as such is more of an anglophile notion.

    4. Re: Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound jealous. But good luck when your eurotrash nation is taken over my mohameddans.

    5. Re: Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Funny, I can be naked in public parks and drink beer in the streets here in Germany. Can you do that in USA?
      On top of that, Internet providers are not colluded, and I have multiple decent options. The same with cellphone providers, cheap and good.
      Of course, other things are more expensive, but when I broke my collar bone biking, I didn't have to pay anything for the surgery nor the physiotherapy, so you get what you pay for.

    6. Re:Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, you're saying the answer to TSA patdowns is direct armed rebellion? Perhaps you really are better off not having any sort of constitutional rights in your country.

    7. Re:Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well getting searched at a public airport hardly calls for a revolution.

    8. Re:Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure what the TSA has to do with the 2nd amendment.

    9. Re:Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But do these politicians even understand how the internet works? So they have all the UK sites policed and "sorted", but what prevents someone in the UK from just loading a US porn site which doesn't do checks? Is UK going to create a firewall of their own just to enforce their own bureaucracy?

    10. Re: Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure you can drink beer on streets in some municipalities for example Las Vegas, Nevada. There are lots of places you can be naked at. Lots of nudists beaches and nudists camps all over the USA. We still have decent moral Christian beliefs and laws in the USA so strutting around naked in public (although most slutty girls do it all the time) is not very moral so it's prohibited.

    11. Re:Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, you're saying the answer to TSA patdowns is direct armed rebellion? Perhaps you really are better off not having any sort of constitutional rights in your country.

      Lol, Americans were saying the TSA will never do this or that because we will revolt. After all that's the rationale for the second amendment isn't it ?
      Americans talk big about how they're free and have the second amendment to protect them from the nasty government but when it comes to action you find nothing at all. It's like all the guns they have they use for anal stimulation (which in certain circumstances could be an enjoyable experience if you didn't have a wife who likes to fuck you with a giant dildo). The deeper you go into flyover country the more they're delusional with their second amendment love.

    12. Re: Yey Free Speech Great Britain by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      You can drink beer basically _anywhere_, you just have to pour it into a plastic cup.

      The problem with naked people in public is the people that choose to do so. (Argh, my eyes.) True on both sides of the pond.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    13. Re: Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But can you cross the road before the traffic lights have changed even if there is not a car in sight?

    14. Re:Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tolerance of evil for the maintenance of society is in the US Declaration of Independence, mate.

      Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

      It's not prudent to leap out of the frying pan and into the fire. Everyone is still milking the success of our ancestors for a bit longer. But when it comes time to fight, at least we will have something to fight with.

    15. Re:Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Americans have a very slow fuse. It takes a lot to get them angry enough to act, but just ask Japan about pissing them off. I seem to remember a couple of nuclear weapons used against them to end their fanatical war against us. Wanta play? Sure, we'll play, but when we do we play to win.

      Nah Americans don't have a slow fuse. They're hypocrites, always looking down on others because they have freedom of speech and the right to bear arms. And the rest of the civilised nations don't. They continually spout that their freedom is a consequence of freely available guns to keep the bad bug ugly government in check.
      But the reality is that they're not, and their government fucks them as easily as our governments fuck us (minus the guns).

    16. Re:Yey Free Speech Great Britain by dryeo · · Score: 1

      What did the Yemenis do to you to trigger the slow fuse that is resulting in so many dead civilians? And then there's all the over countries where you've killed people since you started killing natives to steal their land though it really took off after setting Spain up for war.
      Even Japan, you showed up with war ships and forced them to open up trade when they just wanted to be left alone.

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    17. Re: Yey Free Speech Great Britain by loufoque · · Score: 1

      In France the relevant laws are called "incitation à la haine" which is pretty close to a literal translation if hate speech.
      It's not an anglophile thing at all.

    18. Re:Yey Free Speech Great Britain by currently_awake · · Score: 1

      The purpose of the American second amendment is to ensure that Rich White Men can always have private armies to keep the poor rabble in their place. History shows that a well trained professional army can reliably crush a much larger armed mob. The American war of independence was faught over Corporate Taxes.

    19. Re:Yey Free Speech Great Britain by currently_awake · · Score: 1

      Saudi Arabia views itself as the leader of the Muslim World. They are systematically taking down every country that doesn't bow to their leadership. This isn't the first time the President of the USA has been hired to do a job.

    20. Re: Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah another immoral and unethical Christian. Keep shoving those so called values of yours down everyone's throats. It'll all come back to you and the rest of your sheeple cult.

      Fortunately humanity is changing for the better and religion only has a few 100 more years.

    21. Re: Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet you need a license to play fucking golf in Germany...

    22. Re: Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the contrary. Christianity is coming back because science believers are delivering broken promises and no answers.

    23. Re: Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet you need a license to play fucking golf in Germany...

      Not for irons or putters though. That's why they call it a 'driving license.'

    24. Re:Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well getting searched at a public airport hardly calls for a revolution.

      OTOH, stopping children watching pr0n is a definite call to arms.

    25. Re: Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While Christianity delivers children to pedophiles and money to rich people.

    26. Re: Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No answers to what?

    27. Re:Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Ooh, I don't know. I guess it depends how you interpret

      Websites that refuse to implement the checks face being blocked by UK internet service providers

    28. Re: Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I don't believe that a man can be a woman."

      This is (literally) an offense in the UK. There are people in jail for saying it.

      I would rather die in an American hospital, free from oppression and petty tyrannical brownshirts, than live another day as a mind slave in the UK or EU.

    29. Re: Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah! They should stick to beheading people on video while chanting from their religious texts, and cutting screaming fetus from pregnant women then raping the fetus on video, like those good Muslims do.

    30. Re: Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Found the fascist European with a small penis!

    31. Re: Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah totally! They should have been peaceful, like Europe! And stayed in their own continent... Like Europe! And not exterminate millions of people in gas chambers... Like Europe!

    32. Re: Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rich white men have been trying for centuries to suppress gun ownership and disarm the poor in America, so that they can subject them to their taxes and whims.

      Guess which side you're running defense for?

    33. Re: Yey Free Speech Great Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As much as you clearly want to get your genocide on, you aren't competing with Muslims. You're competing with atheism and agnosticism. Not only are the crimes of Muslims not a counterpoint, they're reinforcing the apatheist and maltheist position that none of your cults should have any power.

    34. Re:Yey Free Speech Great Britain by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

      You forgot the DEA.
      And NSA
      And FBI
      And CIA
      And Dept. of Labor
      In fact, no agency of U.S. Government is NOT involved in surreptitious personally identifying data collection

    35. Re:Yey Free Speech Great Britain by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

      Yeah, yeah, bullshit, bullshit,bullshit. Ft Sumpter
      Takes Americans about 1 hour to start violence...WHEN THE VICTIM CAN'T SHOOT BACK

  2. Credit card? by fred6666 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How are they going to implement this? With credit card verification?

    1. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's going to be implemented by moving everybody onto VPN or Tor, you know the "dark web"; one of those unforeseen consequences that is foreseen by everybody except our smooth-brained, moronic politicians.

    2. Re:Credit card? by Anduril1986 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Basically yes. You will have to sign up to a third party verification service (like the one owned by MindGeek, no conflict of interest there...) which will require photo id. There was talk of an "anonymous" option where they would see "porn passes" at the local corner shop for a tenner with a special code used to create the verification account, and the cashier is responsible for the age verification; Not sure if that is still planned or not.

    3. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their going to sell a one time validation card that when purchased you have to verify your age. Not exactly sure how they will be sold but probably like any age verification item. Although I am pretty sure this can all be bypassed using a VPN in a country that doesn't require it. Pretty sure most under the age will figure out a way around it.

    4. Re:Credit card? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      You can verify either with a credit card, or buy going to a shop and buying a porn pass in person (and presumably with an age check same as for buying alcohol), or other unspecified methods that sites may choose to implement.

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    5. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If online bank verification is a thing in the UK, that would work as well.

    6. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drivers licenses and other offical ID. They usually have identifiable (although calculable) numbers on them that can be used to verify the age of the person on the document (not necessarily the person copying the number into an online form). Since they repealed their mandatory ID laws they need some new way to entice people to get ID and get on the government database ...

    7. Re:Credit card? by lgw · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just like the police look for people watching TV without paying their BBC tax, a new breed of detector trucks will soon roam the streets of England.

      *Knock knock knock*
      "Sir, we spotted you wanking without a wanker's license."
      "But, but ..."
      "Don't try to deny it sir, we saw you clearly on the infrared."

      --
      Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
    8. Re:Credit card? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 1

      Oh that's easy: just ask verification questions such as

      - What's the capital of Yugoslavia?

      - Difference between a pound sterling and a ruble? [1/ one is a dead currency, the other soon to be] [2/ One quid]

      - What's TRON? [1/ a great movie starring Jeff Bridges from 1982] [2/ a shitty movie starring Jeff Bridges from 1982 with an unexpectedly cool sequel in 2010]

      and you have your robust age verification right there.

      --
      "A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
    9. Re:Credit card? by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Informative

      Facebook login of course. The site will connect you once it has verified that the age associated with your Facebook account is high enough, and will contact each of your Facebook friends to get additional verification.

      Once verified, to ensure you don't have to repeatedly re-validate your age, the adult site will store subscription information on Facebook itself, together with any relevant interests, fetishes, etc.

      It's all perfectly simple, and I know Facebook has been working on making this as easy as possible. Both Zuckerberg himself, and the Russian government - which found the proposals very impressive - have been speaking privately to MPs to explain how the system will work and reassure them of its effectiveness.

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    10. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How are they going to implement this? With credit card verification?

      No. With a simple captcha-popup containing 20 portraits and the text: "Verify your age by clicking at least three famous porn stars from the 70s/80s/90s".

    11. Re:Credit card? by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

      Just like the police look for people watching TV without paying their BBC tax, a new breed of detector trucks will soon roam the streets of England.

      Last time it happened to me, it was the Cat Detector Van....

      I never seen so many bleedin' aerials !!!!

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      Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
    12. Re:Credit card? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just say you were wanking over your hot friend on Facebook or over something posted to DeviantArt. Those sites are all exempted because they contain less than 30% porn content.

      It will be interesting to see how they determine the porn content of a site, or even what content is porn. Will Victoria's Secret get blocked for using models? Is it 30% of the site content by the byte, by the page, or by how much a 13 year old could wank over?

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    13. Re:Credit card? by dredwolff · · Score: 1

      You have to send a picture of your genitals. If there's hair, you're in. If there's no hair, they go to jail for having kiddie porn.

    14. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are they going to implement "Alt + Ctrl + X" as well?

    15. Re: Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the store's security camera will allow live streaming and flagging of these customers

    16. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So, let me see if I understand this:
      No one has a definition of what constitutes pornography. Like pictures in the clouds it is in the ye of the beholder.
      Pornography is not illegal, per se.
      Some pornography is illegal and some pornography that is legal may become illegal in the future.
      The UK Government wants to sell a "license" to look at a web page based on the idea that it may contain a thing which no one can apply a concrete definition to and which, at any given time, may or may not be illegal?

      SIGN ME UP!

    17. Re:Credit card? by Wulf2k · · Score: 2

      Categories:
      Asian
      BBW
      Blonde
      Library of Congress Archive 1
      Library of Congress Archive 2
      Library of Congress Archive 3
      Library of Congress Archive 4
      Library of Congress Archive 5
      Library of Congress Archive 6
      Library of Congress Archive 7

    18. Re:Credit card? by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's important to put Big Brother back into the ecosystem. In the old days you had to pay someone's Big Brother to get you this material, then the internet cut out that particular middle man.

      Big Brother is back, and he's not just for booze and cigarettes!

    19. Re:Credit card? by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 1

      what an awkward montage, watch humanity go bald all over....

    20. Re:Credit card? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Some authoritarian prude got trolled by this??

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      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    21. Re:Credit card? by o_ferguson · · Score: 1

      This is the Leisure Suit Larry approach.

      --
      - In Soviet Korea, only old people loose all their bases to Natalie Portman's petrified hot grits overlords.
    22. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one has a definition of what constitutes pornography. Like pictures in the clouds it is in the ye of the beholder.

      I know clouds when I see them!

    23. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this ftw!!!!

    24. Re:Credit card? by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 2

      Basically yes. You will have to sign up to a third party verification service (like the one owned by MindGeek, no conflict of interest there...) which will require photo id.

      I foresee a business opportunity. A free ad-supported porn proxy service with an endless series of domain permutations, like The Pirate Bay, running out of the commercial cloud providers all over the world (like The Pirate Bay). It's practically free money. The ads will of course be for porn.

      Come to think of it, given the Great Firewalls in China and countries in the Middle East, that service probably already exists.

    25. Re:Credit card? by sinij · · Score: 1

      I would like to apply for a wanker's license. I always aspired to become a professionally licensed wanker.

    26. Re:Credit card? by sinij · · Score: 3, Funny

      I would like to apply for a wanker's license. I always aspired to become a professionally licensed wanker.

      This way if there is ever an emergency, I can part the crowd and authoritatively state: "Step aside, I am a wanker. I can help".

    27. Re:Credit card? by Z80a · · Score: 1

      I think they will notice the mistake of using automatic filters when the third or fourth fursuit wearing minister get elected.

    28. Re:Credit card? by burningcpu · · Score: 1

      The new revolutionary symbol: Guy Fuckes

    29. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You kid but the irony is that TV broadcasts near pornographic content in the UK paid for, in part, by TV taxes.

    30. Re:Credit card? by Larry+Lightbulb · · Score: 1

      Eric is a very happy cat.

    31. Re:Credit card? by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      As if the spy agencies don't want people using VPNs. Guess what this is EXACTLY what they DO WANT. Get everyone routing their traffic thru some VPN or tor node in a foreign country so they can hack it or otherwise intercept the traffic somehow, all while having plausible deniability they were attempting domestic spying enjoy a nice shield against any due process or similar legal complaints or restraints that might be made on them.

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    32. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will there be a special pass for people who just load porn from another country? Do they even understand how the internet works?

    33. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can regular people play too? How about a police detection network.

    34. Re:Credit card? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      I always aspired to become a professionally licensed wanker.

      Some of the people I work with have got awfully close.

      --
      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    35. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I need wankers licenses to be a thing to attempt to prevent Zuckerberg from thinking of something like this.

    36. Re: Credit card? by JonnyCalcutta · · Score: 1

      Fuck, I've just shaved my prune sack.

    37. Re:Credit card? by sexconker · · Score: 2

      They already intercept and read every single packet that touches a router in any western nation. AT&T has a massive building dedicated to NSA taps.

    38. Re:Credit card? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Had to....was from the Minister of Howsinge.....was spelt like that!!!

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      Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
    39. Re: Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone will eventually get the idea of making a Facebook application which shows who is looking at what porn

    40. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *Knock knock knock*
      "Just coming!"
      "You're nicked"

    41. Re:Credit card? by nitehawk214 · · Score: 3, Funny

      DeviantArt contains less than 30% porn content?

      [Citation Needed]

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    42. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "smooth-brained"

      Whoa. Now there's an urban legend I haven't heard in over a decade.

    43. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You won't be needed. The UK has more than enough full time, professional wankers. See parliament, for instance.

    44. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How? Police state tactics that are probably already half-way rolled out. The real question is when are they going to put the finishing touches on a China-style social credit system that controls every aspect of your life as a worker subservient to the state, whether you're a 15 year old with hairy palms or an "adult".

    45. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suppose 1984 didn't happen because the internet wasn't production ready in 1984. Don't get me wrong, you can find limitless porn and useful content over IP, and its been a force for good, but it's becoming clear now that governments in autocratic states and nominal democracies are hell-bent on using internet for unprecedented control on peoples lives. Doesn't require "jackbooted thugs". There's copyright laws, etc.

    46. Re:Credit card? by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      So wait up, porn is illegal on the web because children but you can legally target children with damaging peer pressure manipulative advertising. So advertising cigarettes and alchohol to children is now LEGAL according to the UK government. How about advertising sex toys to children now legal according to the UK government. How about streaming content, the UK government is saying it is A OK to show R rated content to five year olds. How about sex education content meant for teens shown to toddlers.

      You know why the confusion because of this part "you can legally target children with damaging peer pressure manipulative advertising", otherwise they would simply create a parallel internet encrypted and monitored specifically for children, but the insane psychopaths running corporations want to target children with extremely damaging but profitable advertising, like SELLING THEM GAMBLING, the sickos in the UK are disgusting.

      It's like legislating hotels needing to allow access for children of all ages unsupervised mixing with drunk adults. There should be a seperate internet for children but it is being blocked by the psychopathic greed of corporations because they could not run their psychologically damaging but very profitable advertising on it. All you fuckers should be ashamed.

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    47. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My Facebook profile says I'm a 13 year old girl you insensitive clod!

    48. Re:Credit card? by sheramil · · Score: 1

      I foresee a business opportunity. Selling thumbdrives full of porn. Perhaps they could have a tiny, tiny rack for them in the newsagents', where the lad mags used to be.

    49. Re: Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like in the 90's Soho pr0n shops that had 100 copies of the report on the agricultural output of indian states in 1973 (hardback)...

    50. Re: Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jeff stryker was on the clive james show (as a clip); ron Jeremy was on question time with anne widdicombe (!); Sylvester stallone was on some boxing films...

    51. Re:Credit card? by currently_awake · · Score: 1

      They don't need a VPN for that, they just need to route the traffic through another country and have an ally intercept it there. Using a VPN increases their workload, gets the sheeple thinking about security, and introduces the possibility that someone will make a good one they can't spy on. This is right wing politicians trying to prove they "think of the children" so vote for me.

    52. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Time to repeat 1648 in England?

    53. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Using a VPN increases their workload,

      Nope, it leads them directly to those people they want most to surveil.

    54. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Introducing the internet allows government to restrict things that didn't exist before the internet was introduced. This is vastly different to the time before the internet, when there were absolutely no fucking rules about what could be sold to minors at all, oh yeah ... and copyright is bad, 'mkay?

      Why the hell wasn't that modded 5 Insightful?

    55. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Step aside, I am a professional wanker. I can wank over this"

    56. Re:Credit card? by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      You can add all the hops you want the source ip does not change. It remains clear it was domestic traffic. If you an 3letter or 2 letter + digit as the case may be in the UK and you want deniability you want people using vpns because that does obscure the source address. Then they can say "what little old us spying citizens, why we never do that we just accidentally stumbled on this traffic that so and so had made to appear to be originating in Ukraine..."

      Of course that is all BS; the reality is they were very much spying on the citizen and they traced the VPN connection to its report endpiong and scooped up the traffic from there or maybe they backdoored the vpn software, the cipher scheme or the key exchange who knows and just lie about it. In any case if you are worried about domestic spying I would use a VPN with a domestic endpoint. (which won't get you around the geo-block porn filter of course) because that at least gives you some hope you'll find some relief in the courts if you are abused (I as some hope because its far from certain). However if they can wrap whatever operation they ran on you with some sort of international counter intel mantel you are good an thoroughly boned as far being able to enjoy any Constitutional rights you might have in the US or any rights UK law might nominally afford you.

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      Repeal the 17th Amendment TODAY! Also Please Read http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html
    57. Re:Credit card? by ThatGype · · Score: 1

      Don't give them the idea!

    58. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All the people downloading rips of Captain Marvel, Game of Thrones, or Debbie Does Dallas are totally the people they care about. Not. This is the problem. They care about the "subversives" and terrorists, not the average shlubs entertaining themselves between shifts. That's the problem. They are probably equal to the task of filtering out the noise, but MI-6 (or whichever branch would be the one to do it) isn't going to appreciate the noise going up when you need a VPN to get to standard-issue porn.

    59. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Victoria's Secret get blocked for using models? Is it 30% of the site content by the byte, by the page, or by how much a 13 year old could wank over?

      Yeah, lots of luck with that. When I was 13 I found those bra and girdle pages of the Sears and Montgomery Ward catalogs totally hot (still do). Just one of many examples. About VS, meh really boring stuff. Far cry from wild and zany stuff of Fredericks of Hollywood (back in the days when the old guy ran the stores himself, saved more marriages than all the counselors combined). Those catalogs would be the first to be banned if such a law as this one discussed were implemented.

    60. Re:Credit card? by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

      Says Robust verification. Could check selective service records. I think the military is still required over there, isn't it?

      Robust is so subjective.
      1) Princes Di
          A) Was the princess of Wales
          B) Was the princess of Yorkshire
          C) Was the princess of Berlin
          D) None of the above
      2) George Bush
          A) Is a type of shrub. The Queen has one in her garden.
          B) Former President of the US
          C) Former President of Russia
          D) None of the above

      Just those two questions I'd probably get most people right.
      Then check for credit card... etc.

    61. Re:Credit card? by vandamme · · Score: 1

      I got carded yesterday to buy beer at the grocery store. I pulled out my AARP card and National Parks senior Pass, wasn't good enough. Needed my driver's license.

      Then again, I don't look a day over 65.

    62. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do know you don't have to state anything, just flash your wankers license at them.

    63. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Alan Shearer is covered then.

    64. Re:Credit card? by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      In store it's easy. Online a lot less.

    65. Re:Credit card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DarkOx,

      You can forge the source address if you have unfiltered internet access. You can send your data ICMP or UDP. You only need to ensure that the data passes through a link owned by your sender and you pick a source that's.. uhm well more or less not on the way.
      In the past you could have even source routed the packet but I doubt that works at all these days.

      This is why if someone fired me with a bullhorn it wouldn't be nearly as big of deal for you compared to me.

  3. âoeShitholeâ countries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    UK is one of those shithole countries Trump astutely identified. Or at least theyâ(TM)re racing to be the shitiest!

  4. Age Captcha by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Funny

    Click on all the squares that contain:

    80's pop stars
    Original Star-Wars trilogy special effect
    Pogs
    Kurt Cobain Girlfriend

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    1. Re:Age Captcha by Anil · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's like the age gate in the original Leisure Suit Larry game.

    2. Re:Age Captcha by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      You're old if you remember that.

      You're ancient if you managed to actually answer the questions.

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    3. Re:Age Captcha by aicrules · · Score: 3, Funny

      13 year old me convinced my mom to buy me LSL3 for my birthday
      13 year old me was thwarted by the questions initially
      13 year old me then asked my dad and mom "random" questions and successfully defeated the age verification lol

      plus I think there was some four key combo that let you skip it anyway...how did I figure these things out without the internet? I don't even remember.

    4. Re:Age Captcha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The answer to "Where were you when JFK was assassinated" was "on the grassy knoll" or possibly "in the Texas Schoolbook suppository" (sic)

      (also my youngest child is over 21)

      I claim my porn pass

    5. Re:Age Captcha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kek. When I was a kid that actually worked! I couldn't figure the damn thing out. I wondered what "lubbers" were until I was like 16.

    6. Re:Age Captcha by Whatanut · · Score: 2

      Trial and error... It was a limited set of multiple choice answers. I'd just keep exiting and restarting the game if I got a question wrong until I could answer all of the presented questions correctly.

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    7. Re:Age Captcha by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 2

      Answers? We just kracked/cracked the game ad removed those stupid questions. :-)

      Or if we were really lazy would just write down all the correct answers.

      Dam kids. Now get off my LAN^H^H^H Wifi. /s

    8. Re:Age Captcha by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      It be funnier still to subvert the captcha system:

      Click on all the squares that contain:
      - big black cocks
      - hardcore lesbian fisting
      - creampies
      - genital mutilation

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    9. Re:Age Captcha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ALT-X, for LSL1 at least.

    10. Re:Age Captcha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Leisure Suit Larry Would never go to England Now

    11. Re:Age Captcha by MobaHup · · Score: 1

      You could've just pressed Alt-X to bypass all the questions. No crack needed.

    12. Re:Age Captcha by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Could you possibly have told me that 30 years ago?

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    13. Re:Age Captcha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Abridged encyclopedia and a dictionary got me through the tough times of that and also Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego

    14. Re:Age Captcha by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      DOH! :-)

  5. TOR doesn't exist in the UK? by ITRambo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Soon, all the kids will use TOR browsers to show that they're anywhere but in the UK. It shouldn't take long for them to beat the system designed by people that don't understand technology beyond using a power button.

    1. Re:TOR doesn't exist in the UK? by shplopt · · Score: 1

      I imagine VPNs will become pretty common, but streaming porn over TOR sounds like an exercise in frustration.

    2. Re:TOR doesn't exist in the UK? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People stream(ed) porn over 56k. Wanking will always find a way.

    3. Re: TOR doesn't exist in the UK? by JonnyCalcutta · · Score: 1

      It'll be like the old days again. Loading one line at a time and chugging in anticipation.

    4. Re:TOR doesn't exist in the UK? by fafalone · · Score: 1

      How exactly are they implementing this? You and a couple others are making reference to Tor and VPNs to get around this... what are they doing, blocking all non-UK porn sites at the ISP level? Even if they disallowed in-country caching servers for non-compliant companies, are they really not going to route traffic to the millions of porn sites not hosted in the UK, and thus unaffected by this law? Or are the British just so militant about watching domestic porn those yanks can bugger off with their burger porn?

  6. so.. everybody is OK with this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    all the members of parliament? other government officials? law enforcement? clergy?

    they do realize that this essentially becomes pornography user tracking? and it WILL come back to bite someone with a significant position within the government, perhaps someone who is at least partially responsible for this new legal requirement in the first place, right in the ass (and not in a good way)

    1. Re:so.. everybody is OK with this? by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      I am sure the politicians are exempt from tracking.

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    2. Re:so.. everybody is OK with this? by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Given that a politician claimed on expenses the pornography her husband was watching I'm not sure they even care.

      I don't actually care either. Let them view what they want. It's stopping everybody else viewing what they want that's the issue.

    3. Re:so.. everybody is OK with this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes because its quite obvious that this is just a postering law. Those polioticians that get it though can feel righteous and justified. The rest will just ignore it. Eventually it will be forgotten.

  7. Out of touch by Sarten-X · · Score: 2

    making it harder for young people to accidentally come across online pornography

    Is this really such a common occurrence?

    The vast majority of accidental porn I've come across was from folks intentionally posting it to public forums, like the ever-popular goatse on here. Do we now consider that all discourse is pornographic? I'll note there are also a few look-alike domains that are easy to stumble across, but I think those are adequately blocked with client-side filters.

    In all, this seems utterly unnecessary.

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    1. Re:Out of touch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's a common occurence for kids to say that it was an accident.

    2. Re:Out of touch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As always look one step beyond. This isn't about pornography, it's a wedge to gain control over internet communication. You start, of course, by "protecting the children from pornography". You end by making people confirm their real ID before they post on, say, slashdot. The goal here is to remove anonymity. Of course it's impossible but our politicians are so thick they won't realise it's impossible until they've forced everybody into the criminal underworld.

    3. Re:Out of touch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus, not everything is some kind of giant conspiracy. Get a grip.

    4. Re:Out of touch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      our politicians are so thick they won't realise it's impossible until they've

      been caught and jailed by their own stupidity.

      FTFY

    5. Re:Out of touch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If Snowden, Manning, and Assange have not pulled your head out of your arse, you are a lost cause.

    6. Re:Out of touch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Umm. If you search anything... without strict mode searching turned on, you get somebody's ass at the very least.

      green tea - gives you a Japanese model's ass
      super yellow - gives you a Chinese pornstar's ass
      wooden stick - gives you, well, a dong at best

    7. Re:Out of touch by epine · · Score: 1

      As always look one step beyond. This isn't about pornography, it's a wedge to gain control over internet communication.

      You're on the same page as feminist theorists who say that rape isn't about sex, it's about violence and domination.

      On the other hand, maybe rape is about sex, for some of the rapists, some of the time.

    8. Re:Out of touch by Kyr+Arvin · · Score: 1

      Giant conspiracies are stupid. I'm not a conspiracy nutter, and hate them when I see them.
      But it's pretty obvious what's going on here. We have a long and varied history, at least in the US, of trying to put as many blocks and trackers on pornography as we can -- stop shops from being able to operate anywhere. Use public shaming of anyone who partakes. The absolute worst of the many over-reaching, eventually struck down laws here were sold under the "think of the children" banner, because it's a lot easier to sell something to parents if you think it'll help protect their kids from the big, bad other that is out of their control.

    9. Re:Out of touch by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      It's not just the US. The UK has good ground to be considered the inventors of the media-driven moral panic. We've had government attempts to crack down on porn before - and other things too. Before the internet was the fear of satellite TV, before that was the 'video nasties' panic which lead to the government going so far as to ban the sale of any and all movies that had not been classified by the national censoring authority, the BBFC. Before that there was panic over films in cinemas - and even back in the 1800s there was public fear, stired up by newspapers of the time, that a generation were being ruined by 'penny dreadfuls' - cheaply printed literature containing lowbrow horror stories of gore, violence, and the type of sexual content that was considered quite scandalous back then.

    10. Re:Out of touch by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Of course rape is about sex. It's rape. How could it not be about sex? They are not exclusive options: It can be about violence and domination and sex, all at once. Exact proportions vary.

    11. Re:Out of touch by jonwil · · Score: 1

      The only place I have seen anything resembling porn is in dodgy ads on sites that wouldn't be able to get more legitimate advertisers due to the content of those sites (like the kind of sites that let you watch the latest TV... :)

    12. Re:Out of touch by Cederic · · Score: 1

      This isn't about pornography

      This is Theresa May's puritanical authoritarianism. It actually is about pornography.

      The irony is that she's hellbent on stopping us watching people get fucked while fucking us all senseless over Brexit.

  8. Politicians are cynical yet so naive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Teens get their porn via paid subscription. Yeah right! Who are those who think commercial porn websites are the only way to access porn. I imagine they are the same ones who wight click to chose "Copy" and "Paste" from the context menu and type Google in the Google search engine to find Google.

    1. Re:Politicians are cynical yet so naive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only briton i ever heard of paying for porn subscriptions was that creep from The Who who got caught in a bunch of pedo groups.

      Of course, like his friend and colleague Jimmy Saville, the UK government did backflips to protect him from any comeuppance. In fact, I thiknk the queen Knighted him.

      Protect the children, me arse.

    2. Re:Politicians are cynical yet so naive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Teens get their porn by making it themselves and trading it with other porn-making teens.

    3. Re:Politicians are cynical yet so naive by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      That's 'Sir Jimmy Saville OBE'.

      Show your 'respect for the peerage'. _Always_ refer to him by his correct title, don't let the bastards forget. We're not done until people routinely turn down knighthoods, not wanting to be associated with such a bunch of scumbags.

      BTW anybody know the letters for 'knight of Malta'? Those should be in there too. He was, at least, a 'double knight'.

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  9. Robust age checks eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, we'll see how well that goes...

    "making it harder for young people to accidentally" - I'll get a spam image here and there, but most search engines are pretty good (not perfect, but pretty good) at keeping it off most sites. Is nekkid people okay? There's tons of nekkid pictures for sale on sites, are those okay?

    What a mess.. Think of the children, while our country burns.

    1. Re:Robust age checks eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not about porn, it's all about control as governments are getting scared what fox could learn & get online and this must stop lol

  10. The Brexit-ers were right. by Comboman · · Score: 4, Funny

    I guess the UK doesn't need the EU. They seem perfectly capable of creating their own internet-destroying regulations.

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    1. Re:The Brexit-ers were right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree with this image of fully operational, working Internet.

  11. Level headed thinking from a politician by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    The introduction of mandatory age verification is a world first, and we've taken the time to balance privacy concerns with the need to protect children from inappropriate content.

    Very good. They thought about balance. Now they just need to think about how it is possible to enforce this on the global internet and how it won't fail hard furthering the UK's position as the laughing stock of the internet. After all they basically banned BDSM online. Look how well that worked. (Spoiler Alert: It didn't)

    1. Re:Level headed thinking from a politician by Anduril1986 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That depends how you define "worked". Does it stop the images appearing on the internet? Of course not. Does it stop people viewing them? Please. What it does do is it means everyone who views or owns any of those images is now considered as viewing "extreme pornography" and lumped in with pedophiles. Now the government has a nice big stick to hit a large portion of the population should they wish.

    2. Re: Level headed thinking from a politician by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People systematically breaking laws that cannot be enforced is the government's wet dream. So at any time it is possible to arbitrarily go after people they don't like, under the pretense of being lawful.

    3. Re:Level headed thinking from a politician by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now the government has a nice big stick to hit a large portion of the population should they wish.

      They could lock most people up right this very minute. They have more than enough sticks already. This is about control. Not of children but of adults. They want not to lock you up, but to be able to out you to whoever in your life will cause you the most harm at anytime so as to keep you inline with their wishes. They stopped worrying about the lawbreakers long ago. It's all about the lawabiders now.

    4. Re:Level headed thinking from a politician by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet they don't even know what counts as "extreme pornography" these days, but I would consider mailing printouts from e621 to 10 downing St.

    5. Re:Level headed thinking from a politician by mapkinase · · Score: 1

      What it does do is it means everyone who views or owns any of those images is now considered as viewing "extreme pornography" and lumped in with pedophiles. Now the government has a nice big stick to hit a large portion of the population should they wish.

      It looks like you are saying this as if it is a bad thing

      Does it stop the images appearing on the internet? Of course not.

      Of course, yes, you moron. No anti-crime measures ever worked 100%. Crime is eternal. Yet from the dawn of state people fought crime and fought it hard, despite endlessness of it.

      That's how you do it. You fight crime because you must. Not to win. People will always kill, steal, rape, rob and try to find indecent imagery to jerk off.

      The anti-crime measures are intended to lessen the crime. And they typically do.

      Internet control is a very effective way of reducing amount of pornography consumed by children and it WILL work.

      Stop repeating this liberal propaganda bullshit that "these measures never worked". They do, for a while. Then humans, the morons they are, "find a way". Then another measure will come. The cycle is endless, but the result is the same, crime is being curbed.

      Internet censorship works in China and Russia. Period. It vastly reduced the amount of materials government does not want you to see and, thus, works as the tool supporting the main goal of any government from the dawn of time: to survive.

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    6. Re:Level headed thinking from a politician by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Face sitting and girlie squirting (whatever the fuck that's called these days) are illegal pornography in the UK.

      Even with age verification.

      Furries would be a more interesting one. Given that stick figure drawings of children having sex are illegal there's an argument that creative art of animals fucking humans would also be. I look forward to you testing this in court.

    7. Re:Level headed thinking from a politician by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      What it does do is it means everyone who views or owns any of those images is now considered as viewing "extreme pornography" and lumped in with pedophiles.

      I'd be more impressed with your anti-government agenda if you can point to any people actually being prosecuted under these laws. Other than an anti-homosexual case that was brought in long before the laws actually banned the content I can't find reference to the government actually using these laws.

    8. Re:Level headed thinking from a politician by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah won't be in court. Freedomland and international mail, baby.

  12. Simply ways around this with VPN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No doubt the under age porn watchers will find a easy way around this. I am sure given how many porn sites around that not all will abide by the age verification. Call it another sin tax if you will which apparently the noobs in government don't recognize how easy it is to get around this.

    1. Re:Simply ways around this with VPN by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Go to your torrent site of choice. Enter your kink in search box. Free porn, no age checks, just get it and go so to speak.

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    2. Re: Simply ways around this with VPN by JonnyCalcutta · · Score: 1

      Or, you know, reddit, twitter, instagram, underwear catalogue.

    3. Re:Simply ways around this with VPN by mark-t · · Score: 2

      And if the VPN doesn't block the "unsuitable" content from being accessed by minors, then the UK will in turn block payments to the VPN if they refuse to institute age-check measures, regardless of the otherwise legal use case for VPN's.

  13. Virtue signalling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Politicians are purchasing votes from certain demographics. It makes the sado-sexuals in government appear to be prudes instead.

  14. Meanwhile... by Viol8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... the kids will still be free to watch people being murdered, tortured, blown up, stabbed, shot etc etc on various forums and sites. But thats ok. Just so long as they don't get to see any tits or arse then they'll be fine.

    Sex - its monstrous! Should be outlawed! Hopefully in the year of our Lord 1819 in which the UK government lives will see the end of these vile online fornicators!

    1. Re:Meanwhile... by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      Yes, I thought Europeans were supposed to have more progressive ideas about the natural human form and sex. It seems you guys are just as bad as everyone here in the US.

    2. Re: Meanwhile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its because sex is more dangerous for the common peasants. If they see peasants murdering each other for the profit of nobility that builds good values. However we have enough peasants to make us our coffee and clean our houses. If they start having too much sex and populating that reverses all of the progress we made killing them off in wars in the first place.

    3. Re:Meanwhile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You thought Europeans. There's your problem.
      There's always been these subsets of Welsh, English, Scottish, and Irish who never saw themselves as Europeans. Europeans are the Continentals.

      Also not all Continental Europeans are as progressive towards these civil liberties as others are. Even in Western Europe you've got your regressive and or ultra conservative (as in Christian) movements everywhere. And with the growing Muslim population, who couldn't leave some of their more backwards cultural idiosyncrasies in their home country, this movement gets even more support.
      It's in fact interesting to see conservative Europeans who hate these immigrants and those Muslims themselves agree on one thing. On the bright side the stubbornness of conservatives and their rejection of everything Muslim drives at least some them towards a more progressive attitude.

    4. Re:Meanwhile... by sackvillian · · Score: 0

      Just so long as they don't get to see any tits or arse then they'll be fine.

      There is a world of difference between various levels of pornography. I.e. static images, tasteful nudes, hardcore stuff, and at the far end: multiple high-definition videos simultaneously playing extreme fetishes.If you look at what the latter does to the brain and the future sex-life of kids who grow up with this stuff, you might understand that it's a very important distinction.

      For example, look at the erectile dysfunction/sexual dysfunction rates in young men -- it's a problem that is essentially unique to highspeed online porn video watchers, with its associated supraphysiologic dopamine surges and ensuing tolerance.

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    5. Re: Meanwhile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No! This is is UK, they are almost as prudent puritan and scared of sex as in the US. They are nothing like the rest of us europeans. We are quite relaxed about sex.

    6. Re:Meanwhile... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Kids can look at tits and arse, just as long as it's not commercial, or if it is commercial it's not more than 33.3% of the site content.

      I predict xHamster will implement a 2:1 ratio of lolcat and the other kind of pussy videos for UK viewers. Or how about changing the typical porn music to the British national anthem and covering half the screen with a Union Jack? Then the porn is surely less than 1/3rd of the content.

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    7. Re:Meanwhile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realize 30% of Americans think there is anything morally acceptable about porn.

    8. Re:Meanwhile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hotpussy.com: One third porn, two thirds cat pictures.

    9. Re:Meanwhile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      s/Europeans/Anglo-Saxons/g

    10. Re:Meanwhile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh please, I bet if they banned violent videos like what you're describing in your opening you'd be here whining like everyone else.

      Just as people here whined about NZ and the manifesto or live stream.

    11. Re:Meanwhile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still remember the Europoors and Bongs in particular telling us Americans how backwards and prudish we were, as well as how violent. I guess they won't be saying that now. I still enjoy the real internet in Freedomland. Keep your socialism, please.

    12. Re:Meanwhile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean worse. We have a free internet in the US. We don't have "hate speech" laws or local police forces investigating mean tweets, either. But sure as hell our fifth column wants to import those practices.

    13. Re:Meanwhile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice alt right talking points, buddy. Go to /pol/ often?

    14. Re:Meanwhile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only allow porn of Theresa May lookalikes and call it political speech. Then again, that may be a war crime.

    15. Re:Meanwhile... by Jarwulf · · Score: 1

      Europe is pretty secular and enlightened now as the left keeps reminding us and they still want to lay this at all the feet of da ebil christians hiding behind every tree in atheist Europe whenever things happen that don't fit their simple narrative. Truth is puritanism is not exclusive to any creed, its more a chararacteristic that walks hand in hand with authoritarianism as we're finding out as feminism and secular thinkofthechildrenism assumes the mantle of the primary defender of puritan values in modern society.

    16. Re: Meanwhile... by Jarwulf · · Score: 1

      "almost as"? The US doesn't have wank licenses, at least not yet.

    17. Re:Meanwhile... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      The last time a Utah DA tried to claim 'community standards' the lawyer used it as a reason to supeona anonomized pron watching data from DirectTV.

      They will _never_ do that again. The only parts of the USA that come close to Utah's DirectTV porn watching is the deep bible belt.

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    18. Re:Meanwhile... by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Not the Christians this time. I'd love to blame them if it were, but for once, not them. They don't have much influence in British politics.

    19. Re:Meanwhile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This! ^^^

      It always struck me as weird how you can stick anything pointy into a woman's body and show it on TV as long as it's making its own hole and not going into a hole that might give her pleasure.

    20. Re: Meanwhile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well I'm this case, the law is being brought in by the party that brought you brexit and the PM who sent advertising vans around areas with large ethnic minority populations telling them to go home, so no, it's not Liberals doing this, it's the right fucking things up, again and again and again.

    21. Re: Meanwhile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't that just the definition of the Internet?

    22. Re: Meanwhile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Tory bastards banning porn aren't Socalists. They are right wing party (rapidly becoming far right). Very very anti-socalist. Thatchers party, the women who once said, "There is no such thing as society". They are your lot, right wingers.

    23. Re:Meanwhile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Feminazis do exist. However there's even some logic to them that makes somewhat sense.
      They don't like it if someone is forced to wear revealing clothes or forced to be nude or whatever. That is why most of them hate video game characters in skimpy outfits, because those characters are forced to do it, even though they don't even exist. This is also in conjunction with the assumption that consuming these forms of media, like video games, has a profound influence on the character of the consumer. Hence teaching them misogyny.

      I do not agree with the sentiment of both sentences.
      The evidence that supports universal claims of behavioural modification through video games is controversial at best as is evidenced by questions like "do video games turn children into murderers".
      Also fictional characters are not persons. They do not have any rights granted by a constitution that need to be protected.


      Real people on the other hand can make their own choices. So if a woman chooses to dress in a scantily clad it ought to be fine. Of course there is also feminazis who hate this as well, because women that make these choices somehow reflect badly on other women, or something like that?
      Although I am not quite sure whether this can be seen as secularism or still inspired by traditional religious values. It's not unlike for religious people to cherrypick the things that they like and dismiss everything that they don't like. But quite frankly, I just don't know. Is there any studies or documentation about this that could shed some light onto the situation?
      Anyway, similar discord among feminists can be observed when it comes to the topic of prostitution. There's feminist that are in favour of it as long as it is the free choice of a women. There it is seen as a women's right to choose what she does with her body. But then again you have others who argue that it sets a bad example for the image of women. That it fosters a market where women are forced into it, human trafficking, girls below the age of consent, and so forth. And therefore should be always illegal.


      So there is this schism in feminism already. An unless you unite them by giving them a common enemy, they should grow apart over time.

    24. Re:Meanwhile... by Cederic · · Score: 2

      Just the fucking Prime Minister that's imposing this puritanical bullshit.

      Yes, she's a fucking superstitious fuckwit. Yes, she's doing this to impose her superstitious idiocy on the rest of us.

    25. Re:Meanwhile... by Cederic · · Score: 1

      the future sex-life of kids who grow up with this stuff

      So stop the kids watching it. Who the fuck is letting children run wild on the internet in the first place?

      Control the fucking children, don't impose child like constraints on the adult population.

      it's a problem that is essentially unique to highspeed online porn video watchers

      Is it fuck. It's been going on for centuries.

    26. Re:Meanwhile... by Cederic · · Score: 1

      You unhinged fucking idiot. Being anti-porn is its own political stance and can be included with any other political views.

      Tell me, which of these references is 'alt right' (whatever the fuck that is):
      https://www.psychologytoday.co...
      https://www.verywellmind.com/h...
      https://mentherapytoronto.com/...
      https://www.gq.com/story/10-re...
      https://www.feministcurrent.co...
      https://www.bustle.com/article...
      https://www.netmums.com/coffee...

    27. Re:Meanwhile... by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Can't entirely blame her either. It's been in the pipeline since before May was PM. She went along with it, that's all. There are plenty of people who went along with it, because what politician wants to go on record as opposing a policy promoted as protecting children?

      It's worth noting that this wasn't passed as a bill independently. It was part of the Digital Economy Act 2017 - one of those big do-everything bills.

    28. Re:Meanwhile... by Cederic · · Score: 1

      It's been in the pipeline since before May was PM

      Yes, she initiated it while she was Home Secretary.

      one of those big do-everything bills

      Irrelevant, individual clauses can be struck from a bill or added to it. Most legislation has changes between initial presentation and being passed.

  15. The internet isn't supposed to be "safe" by grasshoppa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The internet is an enabler; it's an incredible amount of information at your finger tips. Almost by definition, it's supposed to be dangerous via providing the means by which people can become critical thinkers.....

    Oh, I get it.

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    1. Re:The internet isn't supposed to be "safe" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Critical thinking? Did you see that article showing correlation between porn and brain decay?

      Explains a lot of the ground breaking thinking around /. btw

    2. Re:The internet isn't supposed to be "safe" by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      That would explain how those wankers in politics passed this law in the first place...

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    3. Re:The internet isn't supposed to be "safe" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So why THE FUCK do you think the State wants to balkanize control censor surveillance spy datamine sell you and turn the internet into a police nanny state...

      This IS NOT ABOUT PORNOGRAPHY... after all they wank to that shit in their OFFICES all day long and god knows what in their PRIVATE PARTIES. So no, it ain't about that at all.

      It's because the STATE and all its rich cronies, both of which do NOTHING but TAX (taxation *is* theft) and FINANCE you to death, oh and LITERALLY MURDER INNOCENT PEOPLE, are scared shitless that one of the revolutions in the list of recent social technology political revolutions.... will be the PEOPLE WAKING THE FUCK UP and realizing that the DO NOT NEED GOVERNMENT, that it's a USELESS INEFFICIENCY that 100% DOES NOT give ONE SINGLE FUCK about them.

      That's why the Internet is DANGEROUS... because Humanity are all WAKING UP together on it.

      Youtube Search: Larken Rose, Keith Knight, Mark Passio

      Another thing that's driving the Great Awakening is cryptocurrency, specifically strongly PRIVATE transaction mineable privacy coins... simply put, People KNOW that just like Metals when their Money is THEIRS, in their pocket on their phone stored sharded among friends that IT'S THEIRS, growing day by day, little personal transactions among people, bit by bit, growing into business transactions, retail, etc. Humans want that, just like in their DNA from thousands of years ago, NO ONE IN THE MIDDLE, permissionless, they NO LONGER want the UTTER SHITCOIN that is FIAT, no inflation, no Civil Forfeiture, no lockouts, etc.

      https://z.cash/
      https://getmonero.org/
      https://bitcoin.com/ BCH https://bitcoincash.org/

      So yeah, the State's and their CRONY BANKSTERS all around the world are FREAKING THE FUCK OUT over BOTH the Internet and Cryptocurrency.
      Best part is that at last there is NOTHING they can do about it, you've got encrypted packets on the series of tubes, Cryptographic Overlay Networks filled with the Freedom of Speech... so it's either shut off the Internet or the Electricity, and they don't have the BALLS to do that because Humanity will rise up and crush them.
      They know that, so like any COWARDS, after a little bluster that shows their TRUE COLORS AGAINST YOU, they will tuck tail and run and YOU WIN :)

      This is a ONCE IN A LIFETIME chance at a world of Freedom, no more of their Slavery, War, Theft, Murder.
      It's there for you if you want it.
      Please learn about these things.

    4. Re:The internet isn't supposed to be "safe" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please elaborate on how not being able to access porn sites stops you from getting all other info and becoming a critical thinker?
      Or do you propose that one becomes a critical thinker by watching porn?

    5. Re:The internet isn't supposed to be "safe" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TIL two things: no reputable article shows any such correlation, and there is such a thing as 'brain decay porn'.

    6. Re:The internet isn't supposed to be "safe" by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Remember rule 34 and don't do an image search for 'zombie sex'.

  16. Betting... by Freischutz · · Score: 1

    If I have to bet who will win, a bunch of UK Tory and DUP parliamentarians trying to prevent teenagers from getting porn or a bunch of teenagers determined to get their hand so porn, my money is on the kids.

    1. Re:Betting... by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      As Brexit has demonstrated, the average UK politician can't tell his arse from his elbow, and is not within a million miles of being able to run a bath, let alone a whelk stall.

      Can you buy porn passes on Ali Express yet?

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    2. Re:Betting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you a female?

  17. How about... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    I have an idea. Just put a credit card verification in and all those pesky teens that wanted to pay for their porn can't get it anymore.

    Case closed. Let's get back to bashing each other's head in in an attempt to find out how to get out of the EU without leaving it.

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    1. Re:How about... by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      I have an idea. Just put a credit card verification in and all those pesky teens that wanted to pay for their porn can't get it anymore.

      Who still pays for porn?

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    2. Re:How about... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      The sound you hear is a Playboy magazine moving past you overhead.

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    3. Re:How about... by mark-t · · Score: 2

      CC verification is just a "shaming" tactic.... while it may not make a difference to some people, many adults who routinely surf for porn would rather not have anyone else knowing about it.

      Whether that is their own problem is irrelevant. One cannot reasonably be dismissive of that group of people without also being dismissive of privacy in general.

  18. Pervasive criminality by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1

    This is just another example of how you can implement tyrannical rule, in a nominally "democratic" system. Make nearly everything illegal, and everything prosecutable, to the point it is nearly impossible to go through a day without breaking some law, somehow.

    Then - decide which ones to enforce, and which ones to not enforce, based on "prosecutorial discretion". Voila' - now individuals in power hold a Sword of Damocles and can mold the system to favor or discourage any sort of behavior they choose.

    1. Re: Pervasive criminality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's funny you mention that because a few years back I watched a weird subbed French movie with a kind of game of thrones type of vibe and that was part of what happened. The king (nobody respected him) deliberately put in laws/edicts that basically made it so that everyone was breaking the law every day (but the law was posted so that basically nobody knew about it) and then he let time go by (months) and then was able to basically suddenly capture everyone and say "didn't you see the new law? You've been breaking it every day for 3 months!" and he used this vantage point to punish people, seize, and control all power from then on.

      Awesome first hour but terrible second hour.

      I don't think that's the dynamic happening here with this law but you definitely bring up a fantastic point about how fickle and "slippery slope"-like democracy can be once control and freedom shift even slightly at a time.

  19. You know, i really didn't call it by Shaitan · · Score: 1

    As a kid and a teenager it seemed like things were progressing. I expected that by this time we'd have rolled back our puritan attitudes and be more like Europe. Now Europe is apparently more of a puritan state than the US was and the US is worse than ever.

    1. Re:You know, i really didn't call it by sackvillian · · Score: 0

      As a kid and a teenager it seemed like things were progressing. I expected that by this time we'd have rolled back our puritan attitudes and be more like Europe. Now Europe is apparently more of a puritan state than the US was and the US is worse than ever.

      Why do you associate adolescents having unfettered access to hardcore, typically trashy/demeaning/reductive pornographic fiction with "progress"? It is not puritan to say that the developing adolescent is better off with realistic/artful depictions of sex, frank conversation/education, and ideally healthy + safe + consensual + fun sexual experiences with real human beings, rather than isolated screentime with extremely compelling fictional sex videos. Not just emotionally, but also in terms of actually developing physiologically (e.g., look at rates of erectile dysfunction in young, healthy men).

      To me, this is progress -- like with alcohol, it was neither ideal to ban it nor to send kids to school with alcoholic cider (done regularly in France throughout the 20th century). Progress can mean balancing protecting the young with letting adults make their own choices.

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    2. Re:You know, i really didn't call it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, a lot of media being converted to BluRay and DVD are not the same versions that you used to be able to find as VHS. In the VHS days, movies sometimes had NR versions with extra blood, gore, and so on. More stuff than what was released theatrically. Those were never 'officially' converted to the higher resolution formats. Additionally, some movies have been completely lost (Caligula). Original theatrical release version was rated X. An edited R version was created for premium cable channels. During the conversion to R, the actual plot was inadvertantly removed. The original theatrical version has been 'accidentally' destroyed. One option to find these old is to look for 'workprint' copies, but they are not always the same as the NR VHS versions.

      OT: Hey, aren't you the bad guy in that Eye of the World novel?

    3. Re:You know, i really didn't call it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Provide a listing of "realistic/artful depictions" for our inheritors with hypocritical puritan nutjob parents and who, like us, are/were lonely nerds as teenagers. Because for those who fit that description, porn is the only way forward, and while I can respect an impulse to keep the choke hardslam stuff on the high shelf, you need to establish a decent Playboy tier for them to get off (and Playboy's famous enough for plastic that I doubt they qualify under your terms).

      PS: This post is principally rhetorical. Listings of your favorite "good" porn are not needed-just the establishment that if we're going to go that route, we need to *actively* provide the good stuff, or they'll end up on the furry futa frolicking sites anyway.

      PPS: No offense to furries, S+M, or futa enthusiasts.

    4. Re:You know, i really didn't call it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If the UK was so worried about protecting kids, they would actually protect kids from the rampant sexual abuse from muslims.

      They don't, of course. Only enough budget to track down people who made mean tweets about your pigfucking pedophile prophet Mohammaed.

      This is just the slow creep of Sharia law by cowards hoping they can delay the consequences of their bad choices for a wee bit, and you know it.

    5. Re: You know, i really didn't call it by JonnyCalcutta · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with the lingerie section of the shopping catalog? That and the shower scene in Stripes was good enough for me.

    6. Re: You know, i really didn't call it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also mooslims ate my hamster!

    7. Re:You know, i really didn't call it by Kyr+Arvin · · Score: 1

      OT: Hey, aren't you the bad guy in that Eye of the World novel?

      He might be. Shaitan is a word borrowed from Islam, usually referring to evil/corrupting spirits.
      It's also sometimes a general Arabic name for the Devil (Satan and Shaitan), though Iblis is also a name given to that entity.

    8. Re:You know, i really didn't call it by Cederic · · Score: 1

      hardcore, typically trashy/demeaning/reductive pornographic fiction

      You mean the stuff I had access to in the 80s?

      Oh, sorry no. You said fiction. The stuff I watched was real. People genuinely got properly fucked. That magnum champagne bottle did go in wide end first and they didn't have CGI back then.

      the developing adolescent is better off with realistic/artful depictions of sex, frank conversation/education, and ideally healthy + safe + consensual + fun sexual experiences with real human beings

      One does not preclude the other.

    9. Re: You know, i really didn't call it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suppose you think they should be staring at the scrambled channels like a magic eye too? I'm an '84 kid, I used Sears as a reference in the past when I couldn't get the good stuff. It outright isn't the same as nudity, even shitty phone selfies, and you know it.

  20. Ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why does pornography bother people so much? When you hit puberty it's only natural to be interested. The world would be a better place by banning all advertising. Porn and sexuality is an individuals choice and shouldn't be controlled or stigmatized.

    1. Re: Ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree that the government should piss off regarding regulating grown adults personal behavior. The answer to your question is that many view porn to rewire the mind and ruin a very important aspect in life. Sexual health is important and many believe that porn can severely damage ones sexual health. Many blame pron for things like ED, loss of intimacy with life partners, and overall decline in enjoyment one receives from their sex life. Sex is natural yes, but porn isn't. Neanderthals didn't have cameras and cave paintings arnt exactly good wanking material.

    2. Re:Ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? Because traditional values that are rooted very much in the Abrahmic Religions. Mostly Christianity in the case of the UK and most of Europe. All of which claim a monopoly on sexuality by only morally allowing it through marriage, which of course they controlled historically.

    3. Re:Ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would you be okay with your mom posing in that stuff? Your girlfriend? Your daughters?

      I'm ok with my mom, wife, and daughters making their own decisions about their own bodies. I have the same opinion for all persons who have reached the age of majority.

      And it is tightly coupled to human trafficking.

      Citation needed.

  21. Proof that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you can subtract 18 years from today's date.

  22. End of the Anonymous Age? by cordovaCon83 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    AC's look upon this bill and despair! It will become a framework for verifying your ID in other sectors as well. I don't know that this law will actually protect kids from seeing the pr0n they so desparately want to surf but maybe a good solution will come out of it and we can free the world of bot accounts and anonymous cowards

    1. Re:End of the Anonymous Age? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You should post your real name and age when you shit on people being anonymous online, "cordova con 83"

    2. Re:End of the Anonymous Age? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh cool, apparently doxxing is no longer a societal problem and is instead something to aspire to?

    3. Re:End of the Anonymous Age? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would you like a dose of swatting along with the doxxing? Care to defend yourself against a never-ending stream of nasty rumours, libel and slander stemming from people quoting you out of context? Remember Richelieu.

      Wishing for the end of the anonymity is to wish for the silencing of the non-elite who are allowed to speak in public and/or have the means to defend themselves.

  23. It must be nice by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    to live in a country so free of economic and social problems that your politicians can focus on pointless stuff like this.

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    1. Re:It must be nice by andrewbaldwin · · Score: 1

      Au contraire!

      We're living in a country with a bunch of incompetents in charge who are desperate to seek out any distraction they can find/engineer to divert attention from the chaos they've caused.

      Just like almost any other country really (sigh) - though our parliament does seem to be aiming for the gold medal in stupidity and incompetence

  24. The Chans by Zorro · · Score: 1

    The UK think they can ban every "Chan" on the internet?

    RIGHT.........

    1. Re:The Chans by gweihir · · Score: 1

      An idea being utterly stupid, disconnected from reality and dangerous, does not stop politicians from wanting to implement it. These people think they shape reality and they all think they need more control and restrictions in place.

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  25. Google Safe Search? by ripvlan · · Score: 2

    One can find this content easily by disabling Safe Search in Google search. Or opening Incognito tab in Chrome. So will this option be Enabled by default and require a person to prove they are an adult before turning it off?

    Or is Google restricted from indexing this content in the UK?

    1. Re:Google Safe Search? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or Bing. A video search in Bing is going to turn up a ton of results playable right there in the search engine itself.

    2. Re:Google Safe Search? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty sure Google will willfully comply with any nonsense UK regulators will throw at them. I mean, they're also building killer robots and censorship systems for China.

  26. One of the consequences of demographics by blind+biker · · Score: 2

    This is but one of the consequences of demographic changes in the UK, where a vocal and militant minority has disproportionate effect on policies and social climate. The massive curtailing of free speech is another sad consequences. And to think this is the country that gave us some of the greatest advances in civics and science, and the most fertile ground of free discourse. It is almost unbelievable that less than half a century ago this country gave use Monty Python and movies such as Life of Brian.

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    1. Re:One of the consequences of demographics by andrewbaldwin · · Score: 1

      This is the most insightful response so far.

      The reasons behind this initiative have little or nothing to do with a desire to curtail free speech or start on a slippery slope to fascism or similar aims --if you just look at the UK government's track record you'd soon see it's not a beacon of planning, execution, efficiency or effectiveness -- their incompetence is a [very expensive] safety feature.

      No, this is driven by the politicians' number one (only?) priority and that's re-election.

      Given the state of the Brexit fiasco a good distraction is required.

      Synthetic outrage is easily manufactured. It's a great way to divert attention.

      News media who see the Internet as a threat to their business model are happy to jump on the bandwagon -- NOTE consistency is not a strong point; blatant hypocrisy is - just look at the most vocal complainers targets of outrage and then compare/contrast with their own output .

      Whipped up populism and "you disagree? you must be a pervert!" ad hominem attacks on any politician who oppose it just increase the overall momentum.

      Give it 6 months to a year and it will be 'old news'; the work-arounds will become widely know and ignored and a new "look squirrel !"distraction will be the flavour of the day.

    2. Re:One of the consequences of demographics by Cederic · · Score: 0

      This is but one of the consequences of demographic changes in the UK, where a vocal and militant minority has disproportionate effect on policies and social climate

      No, this is not. This is being imposed by exactly the demographic that also tried to get Life of Brian shut down and banned.

      Exactly the fucking same demographic.

    3. Re:One of the consequences of demographics by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Given the state of the Brexit fiasco a good distraction is required.

      This law's inception predates the EU referendum.
      https://www.theguardian.com/te...

  27. Geo Block UK & EU IP Addresses by The_Other_Kelly · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Time to go all in. Just region lock ... everything.

    People from RegionX, can only see content from RegionX.

    Forever cementing the most powerful companies and organisations, in each RegionX.

    No share space. No common Internet. Small, walled, guard-towered, soulless gardens.
    For Safety. And think of the Children.

    This is the future ... balkanization of ... Everything.

    Does anyone believe that this is the end of Regulation?
    All traffic tracked.
    All users identified.
    READING Content and downloading "bad words" criminalised.
    All copyright of "authorised" (sanctioned) media protected harshly.
    No free speech.
    No allowance to create or use your own comment solution (Dissenter).

    Wonderful? Well, they are not finished.

    "Internet Tax". "Internet Privilege Suspension". "Lifelong Block".

    Oh! What a brave new world!

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    1. Re:Geo Block UK & EU IP Addresses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      EMP is the only solution in near future for human to be free again.

    2. Re:Geo Block UK & EU IP Addresses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I second that GP's topic that they didn't address in their comment. Anyone working on the BGP update to blackhole the UK ipblocks?

    3. Re: Geo Block UK & EU IP Addresses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the government that is bringing us no free movement due to brexit, so maybe you have a point about them.

    4. Re: Geo Block UK & EU IP Addresses by Cederic · · Score: 1

      On a single trip earlier this year I visited 22 countries, only one of which was in the EU.

      I needed two visas for that trip, including one to get into Australia.

      You're pathetically ill informed if you think EU membership is required for free movement.

  28. People trust the British government around kids? by FilmedInNoir · · Score: 1
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  29. Ob. Dilbert by swm · · Score: 3, Funny
  30. I've already banned all europeans from my sites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    with that retarded data retention law, and now this nanny state shit, looks like all of europe are just little slaves :)

    you spineless euro coward fucks, still scared to stand up for your freedom after 4000 years?

    I'm going to put a Goatse photo right in the queens' face if she visits my network, and she will like it, and lick it

    1. Re:I've already banned all europeans from my sites by Cederic · · Score: 1

      How are you going to display an image to someone you've banned from your sites?

      I mean, shit, if you're going to troll at least show a modicum of intelligence about it.

  31. No, YOU get a grip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many more blatant facts will you delusional anticonspiracy theorist nutjobs ignore, before you pull your head out of your sand and start facing reality!

    I bet you still believe that Earth is flat, your country is democratic, the NSA are good guys, and that the conspiracy theorists are out there to get you. --.--

  32. Oi do u got a loicence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Sharia law for the UK, fuck the queen and her inbred kids

  33. Seconded. The UK caused the US prudeness. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The UK is the origin of that insane fundamentalist prudeness. The puritans and the victorians started it.

    Before that, it was normal to go swimming in rivers and lakes completely nude, and walk home nude too, if you weren't dry yet. *Especially* as a kid.
    And grown-ups used to fuck behind bushes in nature.
    Or at festivities. Even orgies usually meant a heap of fucking, and kids running around on the outskirts, playing just as normally as if the grown-ups would eat or dance or talk. Nothing special was thought of it. Because it is nothing special.

    But puritans were sick perverts, and implied that everybody was like them. Just like they still do. So of course they wanted to protect kids from that... schizophrenically in-between abusing and raping them themselves.

    Moral of the story: Wanna find a child rapist? Find somebody who wants to ban nudity or sex.

    1. Re:Seconded. The UK caused the US prudeness. by dinfinity · · Score: 2

      That escalated quickly.

    2. Re:Seconded. The UK caused the US prudeness. by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      That doesn't mean he is wrong.

    3. Re:Seconded. The UK caused the US prudeness. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The rise of the Puritans coincided with a raging syphilis epidemic, the red man's revenge for all the diseases we gave him. You too might decide to give prudery a try, if the alternative is wasting away and going insane from an incurable disease.

  34. Perverts. Like politicians and clergy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Becaise you can't get *that* kind of porn legally nor cheaply anywhere.

  35. Also, how does it harm children? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Explain, precisely, and scientifically, how seeing people fuck would "harm" a child.
    It is in no way different from a milk-suckling baby seeing a teen eat proper food, even if that baby had the comprehension of a teenager.

    I would bet money that ONLY and exclusively real perverts who watch child rape, suicidal scat gobbling and horse sex snuff, are for banning porn.

    1. Re:Also, how does it harm children? by Gabest · · Score: 1

      Everyone knows masturbation makes you blind.

    2. Re:Also, how does it harm children? by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Not if you have good aim.

  36. Bring back the Sears catalog! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kids today have no idea. We had to wank uphill both ways in a snowstorm.

  37. Porn is bad by PPH · · Score: 3, Funny

    It gives young people an unhealthy and unreasonable idea of how fast a plumber will come to your house.

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    1. Re:Porn is bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It gives young people an unhealthy and unreasonable idea of how fast a plumber will come in your house.

      Fixed that for you.

    2. Re:Porn is bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not a blow job, it's just a demonstration of one technique on how to give your friend a testicular exam!

  38. The same way any sane person would by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    With a VPN,

    Oh, you mean how the gov't would implement it. Does anyone really care?

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    1. Re:The same way any sane person would by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Even a VPN overestimates the effectiveness of the block. A VPN requires a minimum level of knowledge. The first thing most people would do is look for another porn site*, of which there are sure to be a few orders of magnitude more than the block can keep up with. If that fails, then it's on to the places which are not porn sites, but which still have a ton of porn - social media sites and forums, Telegram channels, torrent sites. Finally, if that doesn't work**, then they start learning how VPNs and proxy servers work and where the might find one.

      * People seeking porn generally want it right away - if they need to stop to study basic network configuration, the mood is lost.

      ** Perhaps they are looking for something very specific, and only a few sites cater to it.

    2. Re:The same way any sane person would by Cederic · · Score: 1

      it's on to the places which are not porn sites, but which still have a ton of porn - social media sites and forum

      This is what I hope will happen. Invade the spaces that were previously porn free.

      It's the best way to convey the message that adults must be allowed to do adult things.

      Now, time to create a mumsnet account.

  39. Information is dangerous by rv6502 · · Score: 2

    "We want the UK to be the safest place in the world to be online"

    Says a lot when they consider information something the public needs to be kept "safe" from.
    And forget scams and computer viruses. No, it's genitals (and pugs) that are the real danger!

    Nevermind all those kids who grew up around livestock for the thousands of years that humans have been farming, fully exposed to sights of the reproductive cycle. They have all proven to be serious threat to humanity!

    In other news, UK kids suddenly became very tech-savvy regarding VPNs, torrent (as if they didn't already) and how to spell "pornography" in various foreign language slang.

  40. Yet more Whack-a-Mole, UK edition by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hey, UK: You do know this will only stop the most casual and unintelligent of underage kids from seeing porn, right?
    They'll use TOR, or a VPN, or a proxy, or get access to someone else's 'porn license', and that'll just cover the actual out-and-out porn sites, it won't cover all the other sites that can have porn on them, or Torrenting porn, and so on, and so on.
    Meanwhile, where are UK parents, whose job it really is supposed to be to monitor their kids' accessing of the Internet in the first place?
    Let's just be frank about this, UK legislators: what you're really doing here, is trying to legislate morality. Your 'age verification' requirement is really just a 'shame factor', to discourage people from accessing pornography entirely, regardless of age, by requiring them to reveal themselves in a public setting. You're just hiding this effort behind the age-old 'think of the children!' tactic.
    Then, of course, there's the age-old problem of defining what is and is not 'pornography': basically, you can't. It's literally in the eye of the beholder. So then your 'protect the children from pornography' law will be used for censorship of any number of things on the Internet that you Torries find 'objectionable'. Wonder how long it'll be, before that turns into censoring any and all criticism of the Government?
    But I digress. Enjoy your wasted Taxpayer money and wasted effort. Things like this flavor of censorship have been tried before, and they never work.

    1. Re:Yet more Whack-a-Mole, UK edition by rv6502 · · Score: 1

      law will be used for censorship of any number of things on the Internet that you Torries find 'objectionable'.

      (re-emphasis mine)

      Don't worry, left-leaning parties like Labour will do the exact same thing under the guys of protecting women from objectification and the evil male gaze.

      Both political sides do the same shit, it's only the flavour of self-righteous justification sprinkled on the censorship turd that changes.

    2. Re:Yet more Whack-a-Mole, UK edition by rv6502 · · Score: 1

      s/guys/guise ... edit feature when?

  41. I don't know this 'Ringo' but I know Turbo Debugr! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The wild world of middle school boys in the 90s. I remember my buddy got a old pc from some single guy his mom knew, I helped him pick it up and he said something about "cleaning it up" before he gave it away.
    We immediately scoured the machine for deleted files upon booting it up. SCORE!!! A whole bunch of grainy GIFs of playboy scans!! And BOOM! there it was. Leisure suit larry! The holy grail of forbidden games.
    We usually traded for stuff like this but I told him I should get it all for free for helping him recover the data. Big drama over this move.
    He got over it when I cracked the age verification questions out of the game. We must have given our cracked version to a dozen other kids and who knows how many they gave it to. We didn't have our own modems yet so we were still swapping floppies but I'm sure it made it's way onto an ELiTE BBS well before we did.

    Makes me wonder if I can still find it out there on the net somewhere. Almost certainly if any of my early creations exist today they're in the form of modded games.

  42. Another unforeseen consequence - sexting selfies by ron_ivi · · Score: 1

    .. unforeseen consequences ...

    Another unforeseen consequences is that high school kids will find that the easiest way to get porn will be to have their classmates send sexting selfies to each other through facebook and snapchat.

    Probably not what the lawmakers hoped.

  43. easy ask for there ss number by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 0

    easy ask for there ss number

    1. Re: easy ask for there ss number by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A few things you should know:

      1) The UK equivalent of SSN is a National Insurance (NI) number

      2) You should use "their" instead of "there" in this sentence

      3) A capital letter and a comma would make your sentence easier to read

    2. Re: easy ask for there ss number by mark-t · · Score: 1

      A couple of other things...

      Nobody but your employer and government agencies have any business knowing that number, so there's plenty of people who are of age that wouldn't want to give that information out.

      Two, I'm not sure how it is in the UK, but here in Canada, minors usually also have such numbers, and you aren't going to be able to correlate a such a number to anything resembling an exact enough age to know if they are a minor or not.

    3. Re: easy ask for there ss number by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless it has changed, in the UK they are sent to you a few months before your 16th birthday. So probably not good enough for porn check, which I presume will be 18 or older, unless the government provides a verification service for NI numbers.

      But in any access to a number isn't really proof of age as they can't easily be changed (if at all), so would need to be kept secure by anyone over 18 to stop children getting access to it, and they weren't designed for that purpose.

  44. Won't someone think of the children? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And kids today know a thing or two about getting around technology.
    I think it's time to start rethinking how our society encourages certain behaviors... and in all these centuries and still Alcohol is a larger persistent problem.

    1. Re:Won't someone think of the children? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I think it's time to start rethinking how our society encourages certain behaviors...

      Are you suggesting that unlimited porn will not provide an adequate incentive to learn to use cloud computing and modern network management management techniques?

      Have you a better incentive?

    2. Re:Won't someone think of the children? by mark-t · · Score: 1

      And kids today know a thing or two about getting around technology.

      What about a boot password and physical case lock?

    3. Re:Won't someone think of the children? by Chrontius · · Score: 1

      You've never seen what happens when you lock some king-sized candy bars in a gun safe, and give kids a toolbox, have you?

    4. Re:Won't someone think of the children? by mark-t · · Score: 1

      That's not really getting around technology as much as just plowing right through it.

      Also, depending on the style of case and lock, breaking the lock could end up damaging the computer to the point of being unusable, and even if that wasn't the case there'd at least be evidence of the tampering so it's not like a kid would be getting away with doing this without being caught.

  45. the need to protect children by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the need to protect children from inappropriate content.

    If that is the goal, I am looking forward to the UK implementing age verification for advertisements, social media and religion.

  46. Criteria by man2525 · · Score: 1

    This is the country of the Page 3 girl and the "fun" version of GQ. How are they supposed to distinguish between topless and porn?

  47. Want to bet that "robust" isn't defined anywhere? by mark-t · · Score: 1

    For all anyone knows, age verification is automatically deemed "not robust enough" as soon as even *one* underage person can access the content, regardless of the measures they employ.

  48. Privacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I rather suspect that "we've taken the time to balance privacy concerns" can best be translated as "we are compiling a government watch list of perverts who look at pornography so we can easily round them up later".

  49. Politicians browsing habits by joe_frisch · · Score: 1

    It will be fun when the browsing habits of of top UK politicians are released. Or do they somehow think that there will be no possible way to trace them from anonymized data.....in which case they will learn something very important.

    As long as there are things that are legal but very embarrassing, tracking people is extremely dangerous.

  50. 'commercial providers' by n3r0.m4dski11z · · Score: 1

    "commercial providers of online pornography will be required to carry out "robust" age verification checks on users"

    Sounds like all this does is kill the commercial pronography industry in the UK. Amature poronography, sites like pornhub that have tonnes of free content sound like they are exempt. And of course, commercial poronography in the rest of the entire world won't be affected. Its a quick plane ride to many other countries where the UK porn companies could easily set up shop.

    "Websites that refuse to implement the checks face being blocked by UK internet service providers or having their access to payment services withdrawn."

    I cannot imagine this would work in real life. Do they not know how much porongraphy is out there? And what a DNS block? a firewall block? some sort of mandatory proxy? who the heck could possibly maintain a list of all the pornography on the internet. Most likely it will be just targeting registered in the UK porn houses and decimate their own local industry.

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  51. Capitalism system eats itself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and the prudes think banning skin flix with fix it.

    fucking idiots.

  52. ROFL by wolfheart111 · · Score: 1

    What the fuck else to say... WE aint nothin but mammals... :P

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  53. Oh please! by AxisOfPleasure · · Score: 1

    When I was young 'un of about 11 me and my mates used find porn by looking for discarded mags under bushes in the park! Well I can see kids from now on doing the equivalent online, looking for "scraps" of online porn in discard file dumps, PasteBin links and open Google Drives. There'll be links texted around schools about where you can get small snippets of free porn. If you want something you'll find a way to get it without getting caught 'cos that why we've risen to the top of the food chain. If history teaches kids nothing else, it's that human beings know how to get one over on the authority figures in charge of us when we want stuff!

  54. Ein Vorbild für Kinder sein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So basically you're you asking if it is OK to kill children? ;)

  55. Next On the Censorship List by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Age checks for Fortnite, because we all know how much the Brits hate Fortnite.

  56. accidently? by sad_ · · Score: 1

    i 'accidently' stumbled upon this porn is the most use excuse, nothing accidently about it.

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  57. My mate who's a chicken fancier will be devastated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are sure to ban his site - "www.hugefatcocks.com"