The really tragic thing is that Lenovo has been churning out assorted thin-and-lights without trackpoints! If you have to use a touchpad, you might as well just not bother.
Those are probably their IdeaPads or other lines. AFAIK, even the ThinkPad EDGE has the red nub
Here's the problem...
Suppose the Android platform continues to grow in market share, and suppose the "fragmentation" issue goes away entirely (or diminishes greatly), along with any other issues developers may have.
What you'll start to see is the same problem that happened with Mac OS. Why develop for 10% of the market, when you can develop for a much larger platform? Sure, for some, that 10% still makes sense, for others, that 10% will come "later", but for many, 10% is too small to focus on.
If the developers go, so do the apps. When the apps go, so does support for other services, as well as corporate IT support.
Yes, Apple could still make a ton of money with minority platform market share, and even be the most profitable, but it's much better to dominate entirely.
Ah, but there are other hurdles such as software piracy, and the fact that until now, even with larger install base, developer have found that developing for Android is less profitable than iOS.
Don't get me wrong, I love Android, I owned the G1, Desire Z, Nexus S, and currently own a GNex and Asus TF101. But as of now, the raw number of install base does not translate to profit
Plus, Chrome's UI seems more set in stone. Firefox's did seem that way until some time after Google introduced their competing product, but then Mozilla thought it would be a brilliant idea to fuck with the UI to the point where not only the interface but now the release cycle tries to mimic Chrome as closely as possible. Mozilla's browser still feels like it's in a constant, never-ending state of flux, and Mozilla is still trying fucking with the UI, making me dread every new "version" of Firefox that is released.
The default UI yes, but if you have a customized UI, version updates will keep your customization from one release to another. I've been using this scheme for about one year on the nightly version which is automatically updated by firefox PPA channel. It also works on the current stable version.
People must be F'in cheap if they aren't willing to spend 99 cents.
To you it may be merely 99 cents but to someone in India it may mean the income of half a day of laborious work
Something is inherently wrong with the society when a person with USD2 a day income is even considering to spend half of his daily income on fruit ninja
This isn't going to happen on Windows. Could finally be the year of Linux on the desktop, though. Windows EULA specifically prohibits one shared computer with multiple users without a license for each user.
Citation on that please.
Windows has the capability to have multiple users, with multiple passwords, built right in. I can't remember the last home PC I've had that hasn't had a separate user profile for every person in the house (plus guest). And they've never tried to extract more money out of me.
I think what he meant was multiple users with multiple screens logging in at the same time. Microsoft's desktop OS won't allow you to do that. To get that capability you need to run Windows servers with terminal service server. Microsoft requires you to have Client Access License for each user that would want to connect to that server. And if you run Office on that particular server, you'll need to purchase Office license for each user.
I'm generally not a big MS fan, but I have always liked their hardware. Their mice seem higher-quality than Logitech's, even though they are probably made in the same factory:)
For the same price point, I think Microsoft provides better options. The 3500 and 4000 are sold for less that USD50, and those are equipped with BlueTrack. You need to shell out at least USD60 for the Anywhere MX, 90ish for the Performance MX to get darkfield.
To me, the real gem of their hardware line up is the Sidewinder X4, cheap anti-ghosting gaming keyboard. Most of the buttons works on Linux too
Microsoft's BlueTrack preceded Logitech's Darkfield for at least 2 years?
So putting both a camera in a mouse (invented by Xerox) and a laser as well (first done by Logi) is innovative? Ohhhh-kay.
Why not? The BlueTrack works a whole lot better than any mouse sensor at the time, and Logitech has to play catch up with microsoft. You just won't admit that Microsoft actually did something cool:)
And doing work to make something (Kinect) cheaper is not innovating.
Bringing cheap motion sensor to home user is not innovating? Wow, you're really hard to please
Keep trying, you'll get there never.
So yes, I'll get there never, in your book. Who cares.
Not that I like Microsoft, but to dismiss their work simply out of predjudice is silly.
Please demonstrate one area in which Microsoft has innovated. Buying a startup and putting the polish on doesn't count.
Microsoft's BlueTrack preceded Logitech's Darkfield for at least 2 years? To certain extent, I think Kinect too. Microsoft did not invent the sensor, but they did a quite a lot of work to make it feasible and cheap enough for the masses
At first, they were criticized for arresting people with no reason whatsoever, and put them on gitmo. Now they just simply "create" that reason. Bravo:)
...call it what it is: Thin Client. Wyse offers pretty good range of thin clients, from Windows embedded to Linux with built in ICA client. We ended up going with HP, since Wyse's equivalent was pricier
Does using the tablet have smooth and instant responsiveness? At the end of the day, that's all that matters. Tegra 100 or ipad 100 won't matter if the OS that uses it isn't smooth and keeps up with the user interactions. Consumers just care about experience, how they get there isn't of interest to anyone other than nerds.
I don't do games in tablet, but the ICS update significantly improve this in my TF101 (with tegra2). I own an ipad 2 too, and right now I prefer using the TF101 as may main tablet.
Uhmm... Since when does McDonald's charge $1 for a McDouble if you make less than $1mil/year, but charge $100 for the same McDouble if you make over a $1mil/year?
This is what Apple was trying to prevent. They didn't get it cheaper because they presented themselves as a smaller company; Proview didn't say "oh, you're a small company, so we'll cut the price". They just didn't pay more because they were Apple. There's nothing wrong with this.
Back to McDonald's, Donald Trump would hire bums, and pay them in hamburgers, to buy him McDoubles if McDonald's tried to pull that shit. Would you think that was wrong?
It's the same thing.
It's not quite the same. McDonald's is not the only restaurant that sell burgers. If you think that McDonald's burger is too expensive, you can get them on burger king, Carl Jr, or others, albeit on a slightly different.. err setup.
On the other side, Proview is the only company that is able to provide apple the "ipad" trademark. It won't work if it's not "ipad"
I love my RAZR V3i. Don't diss it, it's the best phone ever made. If only Motorola had made a 3G set in the same case (and no, the Droid RAZR is not the same phone), I would die happy
Wow this same story keeps happening. Apple elects to go with 2G edge instead of 3G. Gets ridiculed. The all the 3G phones have connection problems and drain their batteries. Apple delays 4G. Gets pilloried. Oops the 4G phones are suck and regret. It's not that apple is always later to the party
The thing is, when apple actually release a 3G phone, it didn't score any better than those early adopters. There was no significant advantage (in connectivity and battery life) provided by the 3G and 3GS compared to my old HTC Dream or Nokia E51
It seems that every time I need to make a phone call with my Google phone, I have no battery left. They just don't keep a charge for any length of time and woe to you if you actually want to run apps on it. At any point in time, if I take a glance around the office, I will see virtually all of my colleagues at their desks with their phones permanently plugged into an outlet.
Current Blackberry models are not any better. After 1.5 years of use, my Onyx 9700 barely make it to half day, and I'm only using it for BBM, email and occasional voice. It seems that if you subscribe to a pretty active BBM group, your battery will drain faster
But does it run Linux?
No, seriously... last time I tried to install Ubuntu with an ATI card (a few months ago), I couldn't get dual monitors to work correctly.
The restricted drivers exist, but are unstable, awkward and painful. Linux and Nvidia - a bit better in my experience..
I have been doing dual monitor with ATI/AMD X300 (Benq Joybook 5200G), HD3470 (Toshiba Satelite M300), and HD5650 (Sony Vaio VPCEA36FG). The only time that dual monitor failed me is when I'm using Ubuntu 8.10. Currently I'm using 10.10, with a Samsung 43' LCD tv as secondary monitor via HDMI. Mirror and splitscreen works
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The really tragic thing is that Lenovo has been churning out assorted thin-and-lights without trackpoints! If you have to use a touchpad, you might as well just not bother.
Those are probably their IdeaPads or other lines. AFAIK, even the ThinkPad EDGE has the red nub
Here's the problem... Suppose the Android platform continues to grow in market share, and suppose the "fragmentation" issue goes away entirely (or diminishes greatly), along with any other issues developers may have. What you'll start to see is the same problem that happened with Mac OS. Why develop for 10% of the market, when you can develop for a much larger platform? Sure, for some, that 10% still makes sense, for others, that 10% will come "later", but for many, 10% is too small to focus on. If the developers go, so do the apps. When the apps go, so does support for other services, as well as corporate IT support. Yes, Apple could still make a ton of money with minority platform market share, and even be the most profitable, but it's much better to dominate entirely.
Ah, but there are other hurdles such as software piracy, and the fact that until now, even with larger install base, developer have found that developing for Android is less profitable than iOS. Don't get me wrong, I love Android, I owned the G1, Desire Z, Nexus S, and currently own a GNex and Asus TF101. But as of now, the raw number of install base does not translate to profit
Plus, Chrome's UI seems more set in stone. Firefox's did seem that way until some time after Google introduced their competing product, but then Mozilla thought it would be a brilliant idea to fuck with the UI to the point where not only the interface but now the release cycle tries to mimic Chrome as closely as possible. Mozilla's browser still feels like it's in a constant, never-ending state of flux, and Mozilla is still trying fucking with the UI, making me dread every new "version" of Firefox that is released.
The default UI yes, but if you have a customized UI, version updates will keep your customization from one release to another. I've been using this scheme for about one year on the nightly version which is automatically updated by firefox PPA channel. It also works on the current stable version.
People must be F'in cheap if they aren't willing to spend 99 cents.
To you it may be merely 99 cents but to someone in India it may mean the income of half a day of laborious work
Something is inherently wrong with the society when a person with USD2 a day income is even considering to spend half of his daily income on fruit ninja
This isn't going to happen on Windows. Could finally be the year of Linux on the desktop, though. Windows EULA specifically prohibits one shared computer with multiple users without a license for each user.
Citation on that please.
Windows has the capability to have multiple users, with multiple passwords, built right in. I can't remember the last home PC I've had that hasn't had a separate user profile for every person in the house (plus guest). And they've never tried to extract more money out of me.
I think what he meant was multiple users with multiple screens logging in at the same time. Microsoft's desktop OS won't allow you to do that. To get that capability you need to run Windows servers with terminal service server. Microsoft requires you to have Client Access License for each user that would want to connect to that server. And if you run Office on that particular server, you'll need to purchase Office license for each user.
I'm generally not a big MS fan, but I have always liked their hardware. Their mice seem higher-quality than Logitech's, even though they are probably made in the same factory :)
For the same price point, I think Microsoft provides better options. The 3500 and 4000 are sold for less that USD50, and those are equipped with BlueTrack. You need to shell out at least USD60 for the Anywhere MX, 90ish for the Performance MX to get darkfield. To me, the real gem of their hardware line up is the Sidewinder X4, cheap anti-ghosting gaming keyboard. Most of the buttons works on Linux too
Microsoft's BlueTrack preceded Logitech's Darkfield for at least 2 years?
So putting both a camera in a mouse (invented by Xerox) and a laser as well (first done by Logi) is innovative? Ohhhh-kay.
Why not? The BlueTrack works a whole lot better than any mouse sensor at the time, and Logitech has to play catch up with microsoft. You just won't admit that Microsoft actually did something cool :)
And doing work to make something (Kinect) cheaper is not innovating.
Bringing cheap motion sensor to home user is not innovating? Wow, you're really hard to please
Keep trying, you'll get there never.
So yes, I'll get there never, in your book. Who cares.
Not that I like Microsoft, but to dismiss their work simply out of predjudice is silly.
Please demonstrate one area in which Microsoft has innovated. Buying a startup and putting the polish on doesn't count.
Microsoft's BlueTrack preceded Logitech's Darkfield for at least 2 years? To certain extent, I think Kinect too. Microsoft did not invent the sensor, but they did a quite a lot of work to make it feasible and cheap enough for the masses
Also, it bears noting the Google typically doesn't deny those stories.
They did on this one. It's even on the summary
Yeah.. No
This is good news as Diablo III is around the corner. I have lost 2 good mice the last time they released a Diablo game. Oh... you mean real mouse?
In the corporate world, it doesn't really help to get defensive over negative perceptions.
like "you're holding it wrong" ?
So skynet began its life as voting machine. Interesting
At first, they were criticized for arresting people with no reason whatsoever, and put them on gitmo. Now they just simply "create" that reason. Bravo :)
As it has done with Lenovo and the other manufacturers, the quality will decline.
Lenovo still has a pretty good rep. Anyway, nothing beats th,e quality of those old IBM card punches.
Agree, While not as legendary as the X60/X61, the X201 and X220 are miles ahead of their competitors in term of performance and durability
...call it what it is: Thin Client. Wyse offers pretty good range of thin clients, from Windows embedded to Linux with built in ICA client. We ended up going with HP, since Wyse's equivalent was pricier
The hypocrisy is strong with this one.
If you are using an IPhone... stop your bitching and preaching about "open".
why not? An open source windows application is still an open source application
You fund 1,000 projects, in the hope that 1 of them will return more then the other 999 consume.
Except is that really happening? Google is still a one hit wonder, with 96% of their revenue generated by search and advertising.
But that's what their intention all along. At the end of the day, even projects like android is a mere tool for google to sell more ads
Does using the tablet have smooth and instant responsiveness? At the end of the day, that's all that matters. Tegra 100 or ipad 100 won't matter if the OS that uses it isn't smooth and keeps up with the user interactions. Consumers just care about experience, how they get there isn't of interest to anyone other than nerds.
I don't do games in tablet, but the ICS update significantly improve this in my TF101 (with tegra2). I own an ipad 2 too, and right now I prefer using the TF101 as may main tablet.
Uhmm... Since when does McDonald's charge $1 for a McDouble if you make less than $1mil/year, but charge $100 for the same McDouble if you make over a $1mil/year?
This is what Apple was trying to prevent. They didn't get it cheaper because they presented themselves as a smaller company; Proview didn't say "oh, you're a small company, so we'll cut the price". They just didn't pay more because they were Apple. There's nothing wrong with this.
Back to McDonald's, Donald Trump would hire bums, and pay them in hamburgers, to buy him McDoubles if McDonald's tried to pull that shit. Would you think that was wrong?
It's the same thing.
It's not quite the same. McDonald's is not the only restaurant that sell burgers. If you think that McDonald's burger is too expensive, you can get them on burger king, Carl Jr, or others, albeit on a slightly different.. err setup. On the other side, Proview is the only company that is able to provide apple the "ipad" trademark. It won't work if it's not "ipad"
T-Mobile needs to get ready for when Apple invents 4G, like the other carriers are doing.
invents? INVENTS? Really?
I love my RAZR V3i. Don't diss it, it's the best phone ever made. If only Motorola had made a 3G set in the same case (and no, the Droid RAZR is not the same phone), I would die happy
Oh but they did, well.. sort of.
Wow this same story keeps happening. Apple elects to go with 2G edge instead of 3G. Gets ridiculed. The all the 3G phones have connection problems and drain their batteries. Apple delays 4G. Gets pilloried. Oops the 4G phones are suck and regret. It's not that apple is always later to the party
The thing is, when apple actually release a 3G phone, it didn't score any better than those early adopters. There was no significant advantage (in connectivity and battery life) provided by the 3G and 3GS compared to my old HTC Dream or Nokia E51
It seems that every time I need to make a phone call with my Google phone, I have no battery left. They just don't keep a charge for any length of time and woe to you if you actually want to run apps on it. At any point in time, if I take a glance around the office, I will see virtually all of my colleagues at their desks with their phones permanently plugged into an outlet.
Current Blackberry models are not any better. After 1.5 years of use, my Onyx 9700 barely make it to half day, and I'm only using it for BBM, email and occasional voice. It seems that if you subscribe to a pretty active BBM group, your battery will drain faster
But does it run Linux? No, seriously... last time I tried to install Ubuntu with an ATI card (a few months ago), I couldn't get dual monitors to work correctly. The restricted drivers exist, but are unstable, awkward and painful. Linux and Nvidia - a bit better in my experience..
I have been doing dual monitor with ATI/AMD X300 (Benq Joybook 5200G), HD3470 (Toshiba Satelite M300), and HD5650 (Sony Vaio VPCEA36FG). The only time that dual monitor failed me is when I'm using Ubuntu 8.10. Currently I'm using 10.10, with a Samsung 43' LCD tv as secondary monitor via HDMI. Mirror and splitscreen works