Democracy and freedom of assembly are sure bad for those in power!
If our we-know-way-better-than-you leaders could just assume power Castro-style and squash the phones/press/internet, just think of how much safer we would be!
Now pull your head out and realize that this is exactly what the Communist Chinese Govt tells their people every day!
but, i just cant help but think that given M$' track record of "security", this will make getting ahold of Disney films via Kazza or outright cracking them REALLY easy.
Not trolling, but common: Micro$oft.. security (DRM).. together? Does that not bring images of a peanut-butter and fish sandwich??:-)
M$ is just trying to stay in the news and build hype around its next box that actually wont be out until the 3.5 Linux kernel.
B-F-D!
Here's a somewhat relevent question though: Why do you Slashdot/Linux guys support BillG and his world domination quest by buying XBox at all? What happens when Sony and Nintendo are gone??? Then we're stuck relying on M$ to produce all the console videogames on Earth... oh God.
I've never contemplated sucide before, but that scenario makes me think twice..
Micro$oft would not be worth $5 if none of us bought thier crap.
Sorry guys, i'm not willing to ruin video gaming just so i can play Halo. Shesh...Brent
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Which, of course, begs the question: WTF is wrong with these geeks???
I was completely amazed to see my fellow Linux/ACM geeks RUN to the Micro$oft recruiting booth during recruiting events on our campus and apply for a job. What is wrong with you people?
Here's a thought: If all of us Mensa members and the better geeks refused to work for faggoty BillG, there would be no problem with MS. - are you all that hungry for a cool business card to impress chics with, or are you that greedy??
Not me. I'll continue to work for half of what those MS sellout fucktards make so that my conscience is clear at night. I'm not making the world a worse place and ruining CS activites the world over - you can be "proud" of that...
While LdaV did create war machines, he did not do so with vigor or to make a buck. That was my point. Kamen seems to be the opposite of him in this respect.
If you want to be picky, you could also note that Archimedes designed war items as well, but i believe both of them did so because that was their societial obligation at the time - you were the "smartest guy" in the whole damn country, so they came to you for these things.
Kamen does not have to participate in the already frightingly large military-industrial complex (http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/ indust.html) we have here.
> "P.S. You can bite my shinny metal..."
You like being a global bully and/or wanna fight? Go join the Army and get killed. I've seen a few people i went to school with die.
BTW, Check this out (among others): (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/ 12/13/1039 656218782.html)
Dean Kamen, the Segway's inventor, says he had no qualms about enlisting his brainchild into the military.
Well, isnt that nice. He's certainly no Divinci is he?
What a fantastic world it will be when nobody has any qualms about making weapons or having them used without much thought.
Oh wait.. i think that's the Middle East. Nevermind!!
Hrmph. I always thought Mr. DEKA was tres-intelligent and someone i'd like to work for when i complete my Ph.D., but he can kiss my ass now.. douche bag.
..Brent
"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." - Carl Sagan
Until the gross monopoly that is the Micro$oft corporation is dealt with (e.g.: broken up, blown up, whatever) the following condition will apply:
Due to the complete and total lack of ANY compelling force - market, goverment, consumer, or otherwise - Micro$oft will continue to make the worst possible operating system widely available.
No trolling buddy! That's the way it is.
Remember AT&T before it was broken up? (although it is a little oversimplified) we used to pay like $0.40-0.50/minute for LD! Suprised? Why would you be. They had a monololy on long distance. We (the US) passed the Sherman Anti-trust Act in the early 20th century precisely because of Standard Oil and other companies that would just ride roughshod over any and all competition.. and then they would gouge the hell out of all their customers. Sound familiar.
Here's a question - how many of you guys would switch your 2000 presidential vote to Gore knowing now that Bush completely let off M$ - after they were CONVICTED (twice!) in Federal Court? Huh? I cant hear you? Can you speak up??
But, i digress.
How long exactly did it take the OSS community to create a complete kernel, operating system, user interface, and office suite? A few years?? HELLO!!! Micro$hit spends BILLIONS on R&D and they cant even make something as stable as Mac OS X or a fuc*ing splash screen thats more than 256 colors?? After nearly 20 years?
Groan..
The plain truth is M$ has no motivation at all to create standards for or share their OS's inner workings. IE will always start twice as fast as Mozilla because BillG will create special/hidden hooks/methods to use to gain an edge - and the same goes for Symantec. One day Bill is come looking for the anti-virus market (oh the irony!!!) and Lord knows M$ cannot make a product that competes with anyone, so they'll use their underhanded and secret tactics against Symantec (Symantec developer: How come their software can do all this stuff? I dont see that in their docs, and when i call to ask my "rep" they say "see ya".)
The only real question of interest now is: What is going to happen to M$ down the road? Will OSS and change in general finally topple them , or will we actually be living in the T3 future sometime soon? Will BillG become in effect the next Castro or Saddam because he holds the reins to the gold/oil/land of the modern age??
I wish he could have better expressed his feelings toward IBM. One could be left with the feeling he is slightly ambivilent his experience with them...
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Killing, no killing.. whatever. EverQuest is as successful as it is because of the interaction of the players and other design factors - not because many of use like killing creatures.
If these people managed to incorporate good, involved game play - then i'll put down GTA3:VC and try it out.
Also, if it costs and arm-and-a-leg, then see ya (a la XBox live- only $10 month.. Ha!).
The stuff Pinkerton and the other Mac guys are doing is really great, but i'm very disappointed that Mozilla has decided to not offer TalkBack support (crash reporting) under OS X.
Now, every time the browser crashes (not very often, mind you), i just say, "Well, that will never be fixed." and restart it.
He just didn't do one of those boring Slashdot reviews that goes through each chapter one by one.
Oh, so you like this kind of review versus the chapter-by-chapter that myself and the original poster liked. So this is a symantic argument and you're being rude about it? What makes your opinion more valuable than mine?
I can get the chapter breakdown from the book's website.
Why do i need a book review if i'm going to go read it myself?
And if you ask me, knowing what to do with the XML is pretty important.
You got that right. This wasnt so much a review as it was a few paragraphs about how smart those Mozillians are, and how cool XML is.
Thanks for the info buddy, but i was looking for a book review - you know, where people talk about the individual chapters and what can and cannot be done with the code samples... things like that.
Oh well. Guess we'll have to go read it online ourselves first, and then decide wether to buy it.
Mod this book reviewer down (Score:-5 Cant Review Books To Save His Life). :-)
I work at Alcatel in Plano, and most people here agree that while Evan is a nice guy, he pretty much slit his own throat from day one.
This is really not as simple as "Alcatel (DSC, really) owning soandso's idea", although it makes great headlines.
What happened was:
1. He signed an agreement (which most of us do not have to, BTW) giving DSC rights to anything he invented - gee whiz, Cisco, Sun, Nortel, Oracle - pretty much eveyone does this with the few choosen employees who get to sit around and dream up these things.
2. He made the big mistake of telling his supervisors about this great idea of his when there was no written documentation (duh.)
3. DSC offered to give him a big $$$ check for his idea, but, he decided to "fight the man" (read: gamble) for his idea and he lost.
4. Even Evan himself admits that he could have excluded this idea (that he has always said he starting working on in 1975) from the legal agreement (doh!). Maybe he would have stood a better chance in court if he had some prior documentation or at least a mention of it.
Whats the real lesson here? Common sense always applies. If you've got a million dollar idea - dont sign an intellectual prop agreement! Or how about, Dont listen to lawyers who want you to go to court so they can get rich from you (my personal favorite).
I truly like Evan Brown, and i hate to see him get slammed by our legal guys (i've watched this case since 1999), but for the most part we all believe he just made bad decisions as opposed to being victimized.
BTW, we have running joke at Alcatel that our legal department is a profit center - we've sued many more people and corps...:-)
I'd say "Bzzt" but its overused at this point, eh?:-)
Sorry, but DBA's do not know how to fix the weird problems that occur in the concurrent request manager or why some workflows do not go through - Oracle encrypts their PL/SQL packages so that they cannot be modified or even viewed, and without Oracle support your Oracle Apps and DB are useless. Ask a DBA sometime.
Also, this post was regarding the database not apps - thats another ball of wax.
And since i seem to have garnered some mediocre responses (not yours), perhaps i should add to my previous post:
Why doesnt the world enbrace SAP? was the question. To which i say, "Because its impossible to singlehandedly support databases you have 10 years of training on, muchless databases that you cannot even understand due to lack of comments, documentation, substantial user community, and language (quite a few DB tables have German names as do their columns)."
Why does Oracle ownzor SAP? Because unless you're running something simple, like my PHP-MYSQL solution at home, you *NEED* professional support - Oracle has this.
If PostgreSQL could magically don an Oracular CIO-level reputation, the bottom half - or more - of the Oracle market would evapourate in a few short years.
Bzzt.. wrong!
I work for a Fortune 100 corporation and we use a server room full of Oracle boxes. We dont use Oracle merely because our CIO likes it (we've had more than a few, BTW).
We use Oracle for one reason: support
When our Financials or Manufacturing group calls us screaming about why something is not working, we try to fix it, then we call Oracle and scream at them - then they fix it, period.
Open source, easy to install, CIO likes it - all BS reasons. We need to keep our books in order and our product going out the door no matter what - thats why we use Oracle.
Oh man, i was all excited upon reading the caption
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..Daisey's hilarious, heartbreaking and surprisingly powerful recounting of life inside what may be the world's strangest, most ephemeral company -- a symbol of all that was exciting, misguided, and ultimately misunderstood about business online during the mad years. It's also one of the best books ever written about the Net...
..then i saw JohnKatz had posted this piece - DAMN! now i know it's in fact, NOT a good book, just another POS that he found written up somewhere, and decided to share with us unfor^H^H^H^H^H lucky slashdot readers.
Bah..
I've truly got to go edit my prefs to not show his posts any more..:-)
Microsoft is to programming what McDonald's is to fine cuisine.
Just thought some of you Mozilla fans might be interested to know that there is already an open bug in bugzilla 119964 to support yEnc in Usenet postings.
Recent posting indicate that some of fellow Moz contributors may be taking this issue and fixing it ahead of the planned "future" date already assigned by the developer - if any of you can do this fairly quickly, i'm sure the rest of us MailNews users would appreciate your efforts!
I'm surpirsed BillG didnt get more poon in his first 40 years showing this kind of tenacity to keep finding ways of crawling in our pants to lift money out of our wallets.
IE, Ultimate TV, XBox, MSN - none of it is designed for gaming or TV watching or surfing the net - it is designed to get M$ in our front doors and into our living rooms.
Fucking business criminals - putting everyone and every other technology out of business so BillG can an even *bigger* house... sigh.
If he does leave, he loses his chance to put the resources of an enormous company like AOL/TW behind the development and acceptance of Linux. To me this doesn't seem like the smartest move he could make.
Nope. Perhaps you have not worked with/for AOL/TimeWarner, or any Very Large Corporation (tm)?
There is no way on God's green earth that Alan Cox will be put in the position of Project Manager or any position of real power. Therefore, the assertion that he is giving up this imaginary position is untenable.
Only Steve Case and the other executive committee/steering council weenines decide what goes into RedHat and what its primary focus is - Alan has *much* more influence as is. After the merger he will be at best a small fish in a *big* pond.
I would seriously run for the door if i was him - we can use his talents to more productive use than being a lackie for AOL.
Just so ya know...
I downloaded Limewire 1.8 this weekend and installed it on OS X 10.1 - no ad software, no banners, just like 1.7 only with different tabs/widgets.:-)
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Democracy and freedom of assembly are sure bad for those in power!
If our we-know-way-better-than-you leaders could just assume power Castro-style and squash the phones/press/internet, just think of how much safer we would be!
Now pull your head out and realize that this is exactly what the Communist Chinese Govt tells their people every day!
Democracy IS NOT SAFE! It never will be!!
"Blood is freedom's stain" - Iron Maiden
but, i just cant help but think that given M$' track record of "security", this will make getting ahold of Disney films via Kazza or outright cracking them REALLY easy.
:-)
Not trolling, but common: Micro$oft.. security (DRM).. together? Does that not bring images of a peanut-butter and fish sandwich??
Give me a great big, giant, "YAWN".
..Brent
M$ is just trying to stay in the news and build hype around its next box that actually wont be out until the 3.5 Linux kernel.
B-F-D!
Here's a somewhat relevent question though:
Why do you Slashdot/Linux guys support BillG and his world domination quest by buying XBox at all? What happens when Sony and Nintendo are gone??? Then we're stuck relying on M$ to produce all the console videogames on Earth... oh God.
I've never contemplated sucide before, but that scenario makes me think twice..
Micro$oft would not be worth $5 if none of us bought thier crap.
Sorry guys, i'm not willing to ruin video gaming just so i can play Halo. Shesh.
Which, of course, begs the question: WTF is wrong with these geeks???
..Brent
I was completely amazed to see my fellow Linux/ACM geeks RUN to the Micro$oft recruiting booth during recruiting events on our campus and apply for a job. What is wrong with you people?
Here's a thought:
If all of us Mensa members and the better geeks refused to work for faggoty BillG, there would be no problem with MS. - are you all that hungry for a cool business card to impress chics with, or are you that greedy??
Not me. I'll continue to work for half of what those MS sellout fucktards make so that my conscience is clear at night. I'm not making the world a worse place and ruining CS activites the world over - you can be "proud" of that...
Amen brother!!
Uh huh.
/ indust.html) we have here.
/ 12/13/1039 656218782.html)
..Brent
While LdaV did create war machines, he did not do so with vigor or to make a buck. That was my point. Kamen seems to be the opposite of him in this respect.
If you want to be picky, you could also note that Archimedes designed war items as well, but i believe both of them did so because that was their societial obligation at the time - you were the "smartest guy" in the whole damn country, so they came to you for these things.
Kamen does not have to participate in the already frightingly large military-industrial complex (http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents
> "P.S. You can bite my shinny metal..."
You like being a global bully and/or wanna fight? Go join the Army and get killed. I've seen a few people i went to school with die.
BTW, Check this out (among others):
(http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002
Peace.
What a fantastic world it will be when nobody has any qualms about making weapons or having them used without much thought.
Oh wait.. i think that's the Middle East. Nevermind!!
Hrmph. I always thought Mr. DEKA was tres-intelligent and someone i'd like to work for when i complete my Ph.D., but he can kiss my ass now.. douche bag.
"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." - Carl Sagan
Hi Robert/Stu,
:-) ..Brent
The first thing i did when i noticed this posting was to page down and look for our studentgov stuff. Go Robert!
See, we actually were way ahead of our time..
No kidding...
:-)
Could we get just one more response saying "blah blah blah...MAME...blah blah blah".
Not very informative no the whole.. Sorry you only got 5 points..
Hey, what the hell. I got Karma to burn.
Until the gross monopoly that is the Micro$oft corporation is dealt with (e.g.: broken up, blown up, whatever) the following condition will apply:
Due to the complete and total lack of ANY compelling force - market, goverment, consumer, or otherwise - Micro$oft will continue to make the worst possible operating system widely available.
No trolling buddy! That's the way it is.
Remember AT&T before it was broken up? (although it is a little oversimplified) we used to pay like $0.40-0.50/minute for LD! Suprised? Why would you be. They had a monololy on long distance. We (the US) passed the Sherman Anti-trust Act in the early 20th century precisely because of Standard Oil and other companies that would just ride roughshod over any and all competition.. and then they would gouge the hell out of all their customers. Sound familiar.
Here's a question - how many of you guys would switch your 2000 presidential vote to Gore knowing now that Bush completely let off M$ - after they were CONVICTED (twice!) in Federal Court? Huh? I cant hear you? Can you speak up??
But, i digress.
How long exactly did it take the OSS community to create a complete kernel, operating system, user interface, and office suite? A few years?? HELLO!!! Micro$hit spends BILLIONS on R&D and they cant even make something as stable as Mac OS X or a fuc*ing splash screen thats more than 256 colors?? After nearly 20 years?
Groan..
The plain truth is M$ has no motivation at all to create standards for or share their OS's inner workings. IE will always start twice as fast as Mozilla because BillG will create special/hidden hooks/methods to use to gain an edge - and the same goes for Symantec. One day Bill is come looking for the anti-virus market (oh the irony!!!) and Lord knows M$ cannot make a product that competes with anyone, so they'll use their underhanded and secret tactics against Symantec (Symantec developer: How come their software can do all this stuff? I dont see that in their docs, and when i call to ask my "rep" they say "see ya".)
The only real question of interest now is: What is going to happen to M$ down the road? Will OSS and change in general finally topple them , or will we actually be living in the T3 future sometime soon? Will BillG become in effect the next Castro or Saddam because he holds the reins to the gold/oil/land of the modern age??
I wish he could have better expressed his feelings toward IBM. One could be left with the feeling he is slightly ambivilent his experience with them...
Killing, no killing.. whatever. EverQuest is as successful as it is because of the interaction of the players and other design factors - not because many of use like killing creatures.
If these people managed to incorporate good, involved game play - then i'll put down GTA3:VC and try it out.
Also, if it costs and arm-and-a-leg, then see ya (a la XBox live- only $10 month.. Ha!).
The stuff Pinkerton and the other Mac guys are doing is really great, but i'm very disappointed that Mozilla has decided to not offer TalkBack support (crash reporting) under OS X.
:-/
Now, every time the browser crashes (not very often, mind you), i just say, "Well, that will never be fixed." and restart it.
Bleh.
You got that right. This wasnt so much a review as it was a few paragraphs about how smart those Mozillians are, and how cool XML is.
:-)
Thanks for the info buddy, but i was looking for a book review - you know, where people talk about the individual chapters and what can and cannot be done with the code samples... things like that.
Oh well. Guess we'll have to go read it online ourselves first, and then decide wether to buy it.
Mod this book reviewer down (Score:-5 Cant Review Books To Save His Life).
I work at Alcatel in Plano, and most people here agree that while Evan is a nice guy, he pretty much slit his own throat from day one.
:-)
This is really not as simple as "Alcatel (DSC, really) owning soandso's idea", although it makes great headlines.
What happened was:
1. He signed an agreement (which most of us do not have to, BTW) giving DSC rights to anything he invented - gee whiz, Cisco, Sun, Nortel, Oracle - pretty much eveyone does this with the few choosen employees who get to sit around and dream up these things.
2. He made the big mistake of telling his supervisors about this great idea of his when there was no written documentation (duh.)
3. DSC offered to give him a big $$$ check for his idea, but, he decided to "fight the man" (read: gamble) for his idea and he lost.
4. Even Evan himself admits that he could have excluded this idea (that he has always said he starting working on in 1975) from the legal agreement (doh!). Maybe he would have stood a better chance in court if he had some prior documentation or at least a mention of it.
Whats the real lesson here? Common sense always applies. If you've got a million dollar idea - dont sign an intellectual prop agreement! Or how about, Dont listen to lawyers who want you to go to court so they can get rich from you (my personal favorite).
I truly like Evan Brown, and i hate to see him get slammed by our legal guys (i've watched this case since 1999), but for the most part we all believe he just made bad decisions as opposed to being victimized.
BTW, we have running joke at Alcatel that our legal department is a profit center - we've sued many more people and corps...
I'd say "Bzzt" but its overused at this point, eh? :-)
Sorry, but DBA's do not know how to fix the weird problems that occur in the concurrent request manager or why some workflows do not go through - Oracle encrypts their PL/SQL packages so that they cannot be modified or even viewed, and without Oracle support your Oracle Apps and DB are useless. Ask a DBA sometime.
Also, this post was regarding the database not apps - thats another ball of wax.
And since i seem to have garnered some mediocre responses (not yours), perhaps i should add to my previous post:
Why doesnt the world enbrace SAP? was the question. To which i say, "Because its impossible to singlehandedly support databases you have 10 years of training on, muchless databases that you cannot even understand due to lack of comments, documentation, substantial user community, and language (quite a few DB tables have German names as do their columns)."
Why does Oracle ownzor SAP? Because unless you're running something simple, like my PHP-MYSQL solution at home, you *NEED* professional support - Oracle has this.
Thats all i'm saying.
Just my opinion, i could be wrong.
Bzzt.. wrong!
I work for a Fortune 100 corporation and we use a server room full of Oracle boxes. We dont use Oracle merely because our CIO likes it (we've had more than a few, BTW).
We use Oracle for one reason: support
When our Financials or Manufacturing group calls us screaming about why something is not working, we try to fix it, then we call Oracle and scream at them - then they fix it, period.
Open source, easy to install, CIO likes it - all BS reasons. We need to keep our books in order and our product going out the door no matter what - thats why we use Oracle.
..then i saw JohnKatz had posted this piece - DAMN! now i know it's in fact, NOT a good book, just another POS that he found written up somewhere, and decided to share with us unfor^H^H^H^H^H lucky slashdot readers.
:-)
Microsoft is to programming what McDonald's is to fine cuisine.Bah..
I've truly got to go edit my prefs to not show his posts any more..
Just thought some of you Mozilla fans might be interested to know that there is already an open bug in bugzilla 119964 to support yEnc in Usenet postings.
Recent posting indicate that some of fellow Moz contributors may be taking this issue and fixing it ahead of the planned "future" date already assigned by the developer - if any of you can do this fairly quickly, i'm sure the rest of us MailNews users would appreciate your efforts!
Doesn't China kind of have a little over-population problem as it is?
;-)
Like to the tune of 1.2 BILLION people!
I'm surpirsed BillG didnt get more poon in his first 40 years showing this kind of tenacity to keep finding ways of crawling in our pants to lift money out of our wallets.
IE, Ultimate TV, XBox, MSN - none of it is designed for gaming or TV watching or surfing the net - it is designed to get M$ in our front doors and into our living rooms.
Fucking business criminals - putting everyone and every other technology out of business so BillG can an even *bigger* house... sigh.
Nope. Perhaps you have not worked with/for AOL/TimeWarner, or any Very Large Corporation (tm)?
..Brent
There is no way on God's green earth that Alan Cox will be put in the position of Project Manager or any position of real power. Therefore, the assertion that he is giving up this imaginary position is untenable.
Only Steve Case and the other executive committee/steering council weenines decide what goes into RedHat and what its primary focus is - Alan has *much* more influence as is. After the merger he will be at best a small fish in a *big* pond.
I would seriously run for the door if i was him - we can use his talents to more productive use than being a lackie for AOL.
Here's the problem (from the source code):
(c) 2000, Razorfish, Inc. all rights reserved.
Learn to write HTML you losers!!!
Just so ya know... I downloaded Limewire 1.8 this weekend and installed it on OS X 10.1 - no ad software, no banners, just like 1.7 only with different tabs/widgets. :-)