I'm starting to get a little peeved at having to repost this. WHY should Assange go BACK to Sweden on his own dime ?
He was there. He cooperated fully. He was told it was all over and done with and he was told BY the prosecutor that he could leave the country. So he did.
When they FINALLY released a valid warrant for him, he immediately handed himself in to the police.
All of that looks like honourable behaviour on his part to me. And it looks like slimy as shit behaviour on the part of the Swedish justice system. File charges, drop charges, amend and refile charges, drop all charges, let him go, drag him in, let him go, drag him back.
There's a point at which you start being difficult with authority and that point is when they start to harass you.
Your thinking is false. He was in the UK long before Sweden issued the arrest warrant. The reason he came here is because his claim to remain in Sweden failed. He asked the prosecutor if he could leave Sweden as he no longer had any right to remain there, and was effectively told "Yeah, we're done with you".
It was a matter of hours between Sweden issuing a valid arrest warrant and Assange turning himself into the police in the UK. All of the other noise about warrants could do with a bit more understanding - the original ones weren't valid, which is why he remained in the UK and did NOT turn himself into the police here. Once Sweden actually got their act together and issued a valid warrant, he turned himself in.
You just can't kick people with smartphones out because they are first and foremost a phone. Try to stop me taking my phone in, and I leave. Most other people will too.
A big building with one of most products that you can think of and very few staff. Computer terminals all over the place that allow you to buy the item you've just viewed from any one of a list of online vendors through an affiliate type programme.
My KINGDOM for a cubicle. I currently have to try writing code, working with products, etc. in an open plan area of around 200 people. Some of these people are coders and engineers, and that's fine. Some of them are first or second line ops, and they're on the phone all day. That's less fine. Some of them are customer relationship types and not only are they on the phone all day, they're jovial and loud.
And that's in a large firm with money to spend. I'm guessing that small companies with savings targets are even harder to survive.
That only applies in America. In the civilized world, you'll go home and have a life safe from the retaliation of the company. We're not all slaves the world over.
If the decision had been made and precedent set, then yes, this would absolutely apply. So ignore the fools who are telling you that this doesn't impact individual rights.
And yet I can never find any of these sites that people talk about. Occasionally I find a site full of PDFs or a usenet server with some links that I can't access because you have to pay for a sub. Bah!
The people rioting are students who are unhappy that they're going to have to start paying a fraction of what most of the world does for their education. They're rioting because the free ride is over and that suits me fine.
Continue to elude arrest? Quick question - how many hours after a valid and correct warrant was issued did Mr Assange surrender himself for arrest? How long did he spend actually eluding arrest while a valid warrant existed ?
They make me glad that I don't live in the Land of the Free (to be a serf)
I get 24 vacation days per year, 8 public holidays per year and as much sick leave as I need to look after my health. And I've been griping lately because at my last gig it was 30 days leave a year.
Any chance that you could point me to the identity of these hundreds of coalition collaborators? Most of the documents I read were careful to obfuscate or redact identities. Furthermore the US DOJ reported that there was no danger to lives as a result of the publication.
I've read through all of the comments on here, and I'm really sad. I don't visit here for up to date news, I can get that elsewhere; I come here for the discussions. But so many of the commenters here are scarily uninformed. And where they're not informed, many of them seem poisoned.
This is a geek site - we're supposed to be able to view information objectively and without being tainted by unrelated information. This reads more like a political forum:(
Firstly, these accusations stem from months ago, so this has nothing to do with the most leak. Sweden have been pursuing the interviews and warrants for a number of weeks now.
Secondly, what's with all of the conspiracy nuts here ? Why is everyone second guessing his reasons for not wanting to go in and talk to the police ?
He offered to go in repeatedly when he was still in the country. When his residence claim was denied, he asked if there was any reason he had to stay in the country and he was told that he was free to leave. So he did. Now he's in another country, and he's _still_ offering to talk to them but he's not prepared to schlepp back there - that's not unreasonable, is it?
Ok, so you post on Slashdot which means you have a browser, which means that you have limited time - care to expand on your exercise program ?
I can't run (busted up knees playing ice hockey as a yoof) and this time of year, cycling on British roads is a bit too suicidal for me. But I _have_ to drop about 8kgs and get back to a 32" waist - you sound like you may be able to help:D
That's so typically american - whenever I buy something, I'm expected to look and see if I paid tax. Then I'm supposed to put aside a percentage of that, then declare it and pay it in my tax return. Seems insane to me.
In Europe, I can buy something in any country in the union, tax is paid there and then and I can take my item home with me with no further duties or taxes. The same goes if I buy online from any country in the union.
It's one of the things I hate about visiting the US - what you see is NOT what you pay. I'm used to seeing a price on a shelf, taking the item to the till and giving them the amount of money that the price on the shelf said I would have to.
It's one of the reasons European visitors don't tip too well over there - we just got surprised with the bill being more than we were expecting until we get used to it, now you want MORE ?:p
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I'm not sure this is a left wing / right wing thing - it's simple theft.
Unless my employer are prepared to provide their services to me for free, I'm damn sure not providing mine to them for free. If I went and asked for an advertising campaign to be run for some side project of mine for free, I'd get told where to go... It's business, not a charity.
By the same token, I'm providing them a service. No pay, no work. Simples.
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Can someone please explain this whole 'salaried' thing to me.
I live in Europe and I am employed on a salary basis. I am contracted to work 40 hours per week and I am paid a certain amount per year for this. As a result of being salaried, I get pension contributions, paid holiday and paid time off if I get ill. Bonuses and increases are based on my salary. I'm taxed based on this salary and the company pays these taxes to The Man(tm).
On the other hand, if I have to work significantly beyond my contracted 40 hours per week, I am paid overtime. The general rule is that you don't claim for an hour here or there, but if you do a solid block of 4 or more hours, you are paid based on you salary.
Why do Americans see being salaried as a bad thing ?
The alternative here is a contractor. This normally involves a daily rate and you are responsible for your own taxes, sickness cover, etc. And when you aren't working, you aren't earning. You do generally earn more per day and there are more tax avoidance options available to you, but you get no sick cover, no vacation, etc.
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I'm starting to get a little peeved at having to repost this. WHY should Assange go BACK to Sweden on his own dime ?
He was there. He cooperated fully. He was told it was all over and done with and he was told BY the prosecutor that he could leave the country. So he did.
When they FINALLY released a valid warrant for him, he immediately handed himself in to the police.
All of that looks like honourable behaviour on his part to me. And it looks like slimy as shit behaviour on the part of the Swedish justice system. File charges, drop charges, amend and refile charges, drop all charges, let him go, drag him in, let him go, drag him back.
There's a point at which you start being difficult with authority and that point is when they start to harass you.
It's per household
Oh, well that's ok then. You have a good reason for being dicks. Makes it alllll goooood.
Your thinking is false. He was in the UK long before Sweden issued the arrest warrant. The reason he came here is because his claim to remain in Sweden failed. He asked the prosecutor if he could leave Sweden as he no longer had any right to remain there, and was effectively told "Yeah, we're done with you".
It was a matter of hours between Sweden issuing a valid arrest warrant and Assange turning himself into the police in the UK. All of the other noise about warrants could do with a bit more understanding - the original ones weren't valid, which is why he remained in the UK and did NOT turn himself into the police here. Once Sweden actually got their act together and issued a valid warrant, he turned himself in.
You just can't kick people with smartphones out because they are first and foremost a phone. Try to stop me taking my phone in, and I leave. Most other people will too.
A big building with one of most products that you can think of and very few staff. Computer terminals all over the place that allow you to buy the item you've just viewed from any one of a list of online vendors through an affiliate type programme.
My KINGDOM for a cubicle. I currently have to try writing code, working with products, etc. in an open plan area of around 200 people. Some of these people are coders and engineers, and that's fine. Some of them are first or second line ops, and they're on the phone all day. That's less fine. Some of them are customer relationship types and not only are they on the phone all day, they're jovial and loud.
And that's in a large firm with money to spend. I'm guessing that small companies with savings targets are even harder to survive.
That only applies in America. In the civilized world, you'll go home and have a life safe from the retaliation of the company. We're not all slaves the world over.
If the decision had been made and precedent set, then yes, this would absolutely apply. So ignore the fools who are telling you that this doesn't impact individual rights.
And yet I can never find any of these sites that people talk about. Occasionally I find a site full of PDFs or a usenet server with some links that I can't access because you have to pay for a sub. Bah!
The people rioting are students who are unhappy that they're going to have to start paying a fraction of what most of the world does for their education. They're rioting because the free ride is over and that suits me fine.
Oh, yeah, sorry - my bad .... I forgot that's where we held the trial these days :p
Continue to elude arrest? Quick question - how many hours after a valid and correct warrant was issued did Mr Assange surrender himself for arrest? How long did he spend actually eluding arrest while a valid warrant existed ?
They make me glad that I don't live in the Land of the Free (to be a serf)
I get 24 vacation days per year, 8 public holidays per year and as much sick leave as I need to look after my health. And I've been griping lately because at my last gig it was 30 days leave a year.
Yes, because exposing evil is so much worse than _being_ evil.
Any chance that you could point me to the identity of these hundreds of coalition collaborators? Most of the documents I read were careful to obfuscate or redact identities. Furthermore the US DOJ reported that there was no danger to lives as a result of the publication.
I've read through all of the comments on here, and I'm really sad. I don't visit here for up to date news, I can get that elsewhere; I come here for the discussions. But so many of the commenters here are scarily uninformed. And where they're not informed, many of them seem poisoned.
This is a geek site - we're supposed to be able to view information objectively and without being tainted by unrelated information. This reads more like a political forum :(
Firstly, these accusations stem from months ago, so this has nothing to do with the most leak. Sweden have been pursuing the interviews and warrants for a number of weeks now.
Secondly, what's with all of the conspiracy nuts here ? Why is everyone second guessing his reasons for not wanting to go in and talk to the police ?
He offered to go in repeatedly when he was still in the country. When his residence claim was denied, he asked if there was any reason he had to stay in the country and he was told that he was free to leave. So he did. Now he's in another country, and he's _still_ offering to talk to them but he's not prepared to schlepp back there - that's not unreasonable, is it?
You've sold me - honest :D
Now I'm just looking for a gym with a decent free weights section and parking somewhere near me :D
off the charts, or .... Uncharted!
*badoom* *tsh* - thank you, I'll be here all week!
Thanks - that's a really interesting read. I've been on a 1700 kcal diet per day for a good 6 weeks now, but damn, I'm hungry all the time!
I'm starting to think it's time I found a good gym - I have the free time these days so I should stop making excuses.
Ok, so you post on Slashdot which means you have a browser, which means that you have limited time - care to expand on your exercise program ?
I can't run (busted up knees playing ice hockey as a yoof) and this time of year, cycling on British roads is a bit too suicidal for me. But I _have_ to drop about 8kgs and get back to a 32" waist - you sound like you may be able to help :D
That's so typically american - whenever I buy something, I'm expected to look and see if I paid tax. Then I'm supposed to put aside a percentage of that, then declare it and pay it in my tax return. Seems insane to me.
In Europe, I can buy something in any country in the union, tax is paid there and then and I can take my item home with me with no further duties or taxes. The same goes if I buy online from any country in the union.
It's one of the things I hate about visiting the US - what you see is NOT what you pay. I'm used to seeing a price on a shelf, taking the item to the till and giving them the amount of money that the price on the shelf said I would have to.
It's one of the reasons European visitors don't tip too well over there - we just got surprised with the bill being more than we were expecting until we get used to it, now you want MORE ? :p
I'm not sure this is a left wing / right wing thing - it's simple theft.
Unless my employer are prepared to provide their services to me for free, I'm damn sure not providing mine to them for free. If I went and asked for an advertising campaign to be run for some side project of mine for free, I'd get told where to go... It's business, not a charity.
By the same token, I'm providing them a service. No pay, no work. Simples.
Can someone please explain this whole 'salaried' thing to me.
I live in Europe and I am employed on a salary basis. I am contracted to work 40 hours per week and I am paid a certain amount per year for this. As a result of being salaried, I get pension contributions, paid holiday and paid time off if I get ill. Bonuses and increases are based on my salary. I'm taxed based on this salary and the company pays these taxes to The Man(tm).
On the other hand, if I have to work significantly beyond my contracted 40 hours per week, I am paid overtime. The general rule is that you don't claim for an hour here or there, but if you do a solid block of 4 or more hours, you are paid based on you salary.
Why do Americans see being salaried as a bad thing ?
The alternative here is a contractor. This normally involves a daily rate and you are responsible for your own taxes, sickness cover, etc. And when you aren't working, you aren't earning. You do generally earn more per day and there are more tax avoidance options available to you, but you get no sick cover, no vacation, etc.
Sounds to me like you want a leatherman then. All the features of a swiss army knife, but with locking blades.
Unless you live in the UK where you can get a 5 year jail sentence for carrying one. But they don't tell you THAT in the store when you buy it.