Not sure about how things work in America...But looks like this school is a public school. If this is a public school, then isnt its building and facilities public property ? Like the park and the water fountain there ? Of course there can be access and usage restrictions...but in the absence of any known restrictions, wouldnt public property be usable by all and any ?
In India, you simply call the grocery store, order you list and get your stuff at home in 2 hours, no shipping/delivery charges, no tips expected. It has been so since as long as I remember. Whether it is Amazon or not doesnt matter a dang to the consumer.
For those who dont read TFA
1. Kid figures out query params and post fileds in http
2. Kid mines data from a public web server to get publicly available information.
3. Kid "analyzes" data statiscally, finds a pattern to grading
4. Kid dubs it tampering. (Tampering would be if the evaluators grading were to be replaced with something else. )
5. Tech dumb media latches onto the story, makes a celebrity out of a kid scraping data off a website.
6. Education agency is pissed off for really no fault of theirs. I mean... why is there an expectation that the results should have been secured ? The results are posted on dead tree on all school notice boards. You could go around each of those school, and gathered the same data. Where is the effing breach
Potential Consequences:
Agency lodges police complaint based on media reports (India has overbroad cyber crime laws, people have been arrested for making anti gov remarks on facebook)
Kid gets arrested when he land in India in the summer vacation
Kid asked to surrender passport till the court decides on the case
Case drags for years
Kid screwed
Slashdot : news from half assed unverified sources, stuff that...I dont given an eff
I think you mean on access scanner, and not on demand scanner. On demand will scan only those files that you ask it to, and when you ask it to. On access scan will have a kernel hook that will intercept I/O and do a scan
If you have a traffic check point on the highway where each and every passing vehicle is stopped and checked completely, then the traffic *will* slow down. There is no escaping that.
BTW , McAfee is not just anti virus. There is a hell lot more going on there.
Any IT admins around here who use ePO ? Can you speak up please ?
Nope. We probably dont need to burn our money that way.We pass a retro effective law in our country criminalizing all your biz houses that operate here.If pepsi/coke/p&g/levis/GM/whoever were to be thrown out, or have their stuff seized here in India, it could get us far greater mileage.
With the absolute majority that the ruling party enjoys currently, there probably wont even be a parliamentary debate on it.
a dummy with slashdot id of oxygen_deprived claims that he can guarantee breaking 256 bit AES in 3 seconds given the following
a. A piece of known plaintext
b. A piece of cipher text corresponding to the known plaintext
c. An external encryptocomparer (yeah , I made that up, also, patent pending in some country ) that can generate , compute and compare 2^256 keys per second
It's the kind of fraud that Indians have ingrained in to their culture and Americans seem to get better at every day.
What a sweeping generalization.Its one thing to disparage a few dollar dreamer,racism tolerating H1 B Indians, quite another to disparage billion plus peoples' nation and a few millenia worth of culture
Speaking of fraud, greed , the underlying motivation for fraud, is not the prerogative of any particular nation of culture.
Please sir, get your head out of the sand. Blaming others for your own failures will not get you anywhere.
And speaking of fraud, as an Indian, let me assure you that fraud is not ingrained in Indian culture.
Many of the people in this land are honest hardworking people, who dream of getting their kids a good education,and whose primary goal in life is NOT a house and a car on borrowed money.
I second that.While I am not on embedded, my product does linux, osx, hpux, aix, solaris and windows. We started shifting to boost ( threads, serialization,filesystem ) about 3 years ago in bits and pieces. The code is so much cleaner, easier to understand, and reliable.
You may have some work to do to move to your platform (embedded is a different animal AFAIU ). The downside would be the app footprint and maybe a bit of performance hit (may be noticeable on low spec devices )
In case you arent aware Gandhi (not Ghandi) and Washington were playing against the same opponent.
Lookie here... American beat british with musket and bayonet...american is a hero...
lookie here...half clothed asian drive out the same british...the brits were sissies...
Gandhi was not a man. He was a movement.And your civil rights chapter would have read differently but for Gandhi inspired King. If pulling the trigger could solve problems of the world then it would have been quite an easy solution.
your own guys screw you in your own courts using the laws made by your own representatives in your own legislatures, and thats freedom. Congrats.
Out of curiosity, without scurrying off to wikipedia, could you differentiate a Punjabi name (130 million) from a Bengali (230 million) name?
The only last names common between a bengali and a punjabi are Dutt and Singh, and in its phonetic form, they are indistinguishable.
To get around that the bengalis accent Dutt as Dutta/Datta, and Punjabis dont.
Bengalis use Sinha for Singh, and pujabis stick to Singh.
You are one of the privileged few who generate enough income to be above the threshold to pay taxes.Not the entire population of India has a PAN number or a ration card or any form of id whatsoever.
The central idea of the national id is NOT to track citizens. Its main aim is to counter the major malpractices that thwart the efficacy of public welfare programs, where government provided benefits are usurped fraudulently by intermediate crooks (some of whom are a part of the govt machinery)
Its the pessimism of the likes of you that holds us back.The kickbacks and under the table aspects are one of the major reasons why this has been entrusted to Nilekani.
Get your facts right. After a long long time we have a government that is trying to sincerely uplift the masses. If you cant support them, at least dont hinder them.
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In Hindi, default will roughly translate to
"poorva-nirdharit",which is identical to pre assigned.
A sizable chunk of H1B are Indians.Indians, who , after getting the best education ( for example at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institutes_of_Technology ) at government's ( and tax payer's ) expense, thought not about the society that enabled them, but about the 45 times multiplier ( 1 USD == 45 Indian rupees), and moved to the US.To contribute to a society that didnt invest a penny in them, to a state that is not interested in their welfare, not even in context of basic right to earn a living.
Any guesses on where our sympathies lie ?
Its indeed unfortunate for those H1B who lose their shirt.But it is also a stark reminder that irrespective of the progress a society makes, and the freedom and equality it preaches, a migrant will never be on par with a citizen.Gandhi was a victim of discrimination in South Africa, today his children are victims of a different from of discrimination. The world hasnt changed much after al
Bad times dont last for ever. When the recession ebbs, and the economy picks up, maybe the US economy can get a punk rocker citizen to write code.
I am oh so glad I didnt give in to the temptation of pursuing an MS in an US university ( and sell off my ancestral home to pay for it ), getting a job there , only to be sacked thanklessly. I wish some of my brethren had the same foresight and commitment to their own societies that they owe their existence to
And that the auditors were a local subsidiary of PwC, well outside of US jurisdiction.
AFAIK, a US firm is responsible for ethical conduct irrespective of the country it operates in. For example, if your US firm's subsidiary bribes an Indian official , US courts have jurisdiction over the parent company in the matter
If something goes south we can take them to court, but short of that I can drive over to their office and find out for myself what's going on. Not so easy to do if your vendor is in Bangladore, now is it?
Outsourcing is a skill. You cant outsource work to the first tom dick or harry that quotes the lowest. You need to do your homework.Its challenging, and those from your side of the pond who have lived upto the challenge have saved millions of dollars in labor costs.
I have zero sympathy...and the meter readings to prove it
I have zero sympathy too. I and countless others lost our investments overnight as Satyam plummedted 80% within hours.
We can fix our regulatory environment and I frankly don't give a crap what happens in yours.
Unfortunately, the days , when people/comapnies/nations could island themselves economically and didnt give a crap what happened elsewhere, are over.You cannot stay unaffected, and sooner or later, you will be splashing in the very same crap.
Maybe stick to managing your own problems, that might be a good start.
Actually thats exactly what I was doing. I work for a shared project team half of which works in US and half is in Bangalore. Your very own US guy coded a deadlock in a "single writer multiple reader", and yours truly, the cheap coder fixes it.
"Let's see, companies ship thousands of jobs to places that don't have the reporting and oversight capabilities we have here (or at least used to have) and are outside the jurisdiction of US courts in order to save a few bucks at the expense of several thousand local employees"
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Yeah sure. Enron was an Indian firm. So was Lehmann. How exactly did the US jurisdictions and having the reporting and oversight prevent them from happening ?
Then said companies get taken to the cleaners because they can't audit their operations on that side of the world properly.
-------
In case you missed the TFA, PwC is from your side of the world, and are complicit in the fraud. Here in India, we have a proverb, which roughly translates to
"When you point a finger at someone, 3 of your fingers point to you"
As a native hindi speaking Indian, I vouch for the above response to be fairly accurate:-)
Just to make it a little more accurate,
(ch) should sound like the ch of chicken.
(andra) is like "un" + "the" + "ra", spoken in rapid succession."un" sounds like "un" of "unknown". The "a" in "ra" is like how you say "a" as in "a boy".
The yarn with a muted r, instead of a soft r is closer home.
"chandra" means moon, and "yaan" means vehicle
Geopolitically, India has long been dehyphenated from Pakistan.
Pakistan doesnt need to demand the same treatment because China has been supplying them whatever they want in terms of nuke tech.
Even if they do, how does it change anything ? They are a failed state where the military is hand in glove with taliban and terrorists, and no NSG state in its right mind would agree to such a thing for Pakistan.
As an Indian who moved to Bangalore.I dont speak the local language (Kannada) but speak English . Locals here dont speak India's national language (Hindi)but speak English . I and a lot of other people speak English full time. Language is not a problem.
Costs are typically 10% of what they would be in US. You can live very comfortably (with a 2 bedroom apartment, an used car, a housekeeping maid, a driver and a cook ) for about Rs 40000 (~USD 1000 ). Your job pays for health insurance.
You can reasonably expect Rs 100000+ depending on your abilities ( ~USD 2500 ).
In terms of travel/seeing the place, India offers better than what you can expect out of Europe, in terms of diversity.
If you are female and young, stay away. You will have people staring and trying to get close
"Attempt to murder", "attempt to rape" are crimes in many countries. The perpetrator wanted to commit to crime, but couldn't.
So is abetment
In the scams, the victims intend to abet the perpetrators and fail in the attempt.
Alternatively, lets say there were a bank heist in your locality, and the robbers couldnt get away with the booty.Instead, they hide it somewhere, and run. Later they offer you a percentage to retrieve the booty.You agree. Would it be a crime ? Probably yes.
How are the nigerian scam victims any different ?
After all, they wanted to make quick bucks by helping someone get away with ill gotten wealth.
Of course there are flaws with this kind of reasoning, but the high commisioner does have a point. Imagine a genuine nigerian firm making a sales pitch to the wetern market.
Big deal.So Hasbro files suit in New York.Can a US court try an Indian citizen for developing a product in India probably without violating any Indian laws ?
In that case, Indian Jet airways should sue US Jet Airlines [ http://www.usajetairlines.com/ ] in an Indian court, and claim a trillion in damages, and a perpetual injunction.
Finally, even if the US jury awards trillion dollars in damages, unfortunately, US courts do not have jurisdiction over Indian territory.
People pay for something for its value, not its cost. So how much did it cost Da Vinci to paint Mona Lisa ? A canvas + an easel + a model + brushes + paint.So what justifies the millions And the carriers dont need to justify anything.If you dont see any value in SMS given the prices, use alternate methods. email/fax whatever. That people are willing to pay is the very reason they are paying.
Umm, not necessarily. There ARE master craftsmen who write flawless (almost) stuff. And I dont believe anyone can be bitchy about such code.We had Mark who wrote ~11K lines of C++. Its been 2 years that he left, and we have found 3-4 bugs in it.There have been umpteen bugs in the upstream callers and the downstream callees, but no, not in Marks code. There have been times when we needed to extend his module's functionality. He had already thought of it, and extending the functionality was a piece of cake. He wrote about 4K lines of unit testing code with cppunit.And no, it was not the trivial unit tests that checked if the constructors initialized values properly. He wrote structured and elegant error handling, and his code failed gracefully at negative test cases. I can go on and on about Mark...Point is that its possible to write code that everyone knows to be non sucker
Here in India too, monster runs a portal (monsterindia.com ). The site is full of holes. I had informed them of the problems by email recently, and they did was respond with a "thank you".That was more than a month ago , the holes are still there. Some examples: 1. An attacker can create a profile/resume with embedded scripts that will steal a profile viewers cookies and post to remote server.( XSS ). This way, one may steal "employers" details. 2. An attacker can post a job with embedded scripts that can steal a job seekers details. 3. There also are more severe holes that have a bigger impact.
Duh... The guy is intercepting traffic and stole a cookie. Big deal. Additional info : If you need the id as well, try base64 decoding of all the fields in the cookie ( dont remember whether it was orkut or gmail that sends out id base64 encoded ) And why exactly is this front page news? The attack is lame, and the technique is script kiddie stuff, and has been around since ages.
Slashdot Mirror
This was a ted talk 2 YEARS ago. Wake up slash editors...
Not sure about how things work in America...But looks like this school is a public school. If this is a public school, then isnt its building and facilities public property ? Like the park and the water fountain there ? Of course there can be access and usage restrictions...but in the absence of any known restrictions, wouldnt public property be usable by all and any ?
In India, you simply call the grocery store, order you list and get your stuff at home in 2 hours, no shipping/delivery charges, no tips expected. It has been so since as long as I remember. Whether it is Amazon or not doesnt matter a dang to the consumer.
For those who dont read TFA ... why is there an expectation that the results should have been secured ? The results are posted on dead tree on all school notice boards. You could go around each of those school, and gathered the same data. ...I dont given an eff
1. Kid figures out query params and post fileds in http
2. Kid mines data from a public web server to get publicly available information.
3. Kid "analyzes" data statiscally, finds a pattern to grading
4. Kid dubs it tampering. (Tampering would be if the evaluators grading were to be replaced with something else. )
5. Tech dumb media latches onto the story, makes a celebrity out of a kid scraping data off a website.
6. Education agency is pissed off for really no fault of theirs. I mean
Where is the effing breach Potential Consequences:
Agency lodges police complaint based on media reports (India has overbroad cyber crime laws, people have been arrested for making anti gov remarks on facebook)
Kid gets arrested when he land in India in the summer vacation
Kid asked to surrender passport till the court decides on the case
Case drags for years
Kid screwed
Slashdot : news from half assed unverified sources, stuff that
I think you mean on access scanner, and not on demand scanner. On demand will scan only those files that you ask it to, and when you ask it to. On access scan will have a kernel hook that will intercept I/O and do a scan If you have a traffic check point on the highway where each and every passing vehicle is stopped and checked completely, then the traffic *will* slow down. There is no escaping that.
BTW , McAfee is not just anti virus. There is a hell lot more going on there.
Any IT admins around here who use ePO ? Can you speak up please ?
Nope. We probably dont need to burn our money that way.We pass a retro effective law in our country criminalizing all your biz houses that operate here.If pepsi/coke/p&g/levis/GM/whoever were to be thrown out, or have their stuff seized here in India, it could get us far greater mileage. With the absolute majority that the ruling party enjoys currently, there probably wont even be a parliamentary debate on it.
a dummy with slashdot id of oxygen_deprived claims that he can guarantee breaking 256 bit AES in 3 seconds given the following
a. A piece of known plaintext
b. A piece of cipher text corresponding to the known plaintext
c. An external encryptocomparer (yeah , I made that up, also, patent pending in some country ) that can generate , compute and compare 2^256 keys per second
It's the kind of fraud that Indians have ingrained in to their culture and Americans seem to get better at every day.
What a sweeping generalization.Its one thing to disparage a few dollar dreamer ,racism tolerating H1 B Indians, quite another to disparage billion plus peoples' nation and a few millenia worth of culture
Speaking of fraud, greed , the underlying motivation for fraud, is not the prerogative of any particular nation of culture.
Please sir, get your head out of the sand. Blaming others for your own failures will not get you anywhere.
And speaking of fraud, as an Indian, let me assure you that fraud is not ingrained in Indian culture. Many of the people in this land are honest hardworking people, who dream of getting their kids a good education,and whose primary goal in life is NOT a house and a car on borrowed money.
I second that.While I am not on embedded, my product does linux, osx, hpux, aix, solaris and windows. We started shifting to boost ( threads, serialization ,filesystem ) about 3 years ago in bits and pieces. The code is so much cleaner, easier to understand, and reliable.
You may have some work to do to move to your platform (embedded is a different animal AFAIU ). The downside would be the app footprint and maybe a bit of performance hit (may be noticeable on low spec devices )
In case you arent aware Gandhi (not Ghandi) and Washington were playing against the same opponent. Lookie here ... American beat british with musket and bayonet...american is a hero...
lookie here...half clothed asian drive out the same british...the brits were sissies...
Gandhi was not a man. He was a movement.And your civil rights chapter would have read differently but for Gandhi inspired King. If pulling the trigger could solve problems of the world then it would have been quite an easy solution.
your own guys screw you in your own courts using the laws made by your own representatives in your own legislatures, and thats freedom. Congrats.
Out of curiosity, without scurrying off to wikipedia, could you differentiate a Punjabi name (130 million) from a Bengali (230 million) name?
The only last names common between a bengali and a punjabi are Dutt and Singh, and in its phonetic form, they are indistinguishable. To get around that the bengalis accent Dutt as Dutta/Datta, and Punjabis dont. Bengalis use Sinha for Singh, and pujabis stick to Singh.
You are one of the privileged few who generate enough income to be above the threshold to pay taxes.Not the entire population of India has a PAN number or a ration card or any form of id whatsoever. The central idea of the national id is NOT to track citizens. Its main aim is to counter the major malpractices that thwart the efficacy of public welfare programs, where government provided benefits are usurped fraudulently by intermediate crooks (some of whom are a part of the govt machinery) Its the pessimism of the likes of you that holds us back.The kickbacks and under the table aspects are one of the major reasons why this has been entrusted to Nilekani. Get your facts right. After a long long time we have a government that is trying to sincerely uplift the masses. If you cant support them, at least dont hinder them.
In Hindi, default will roughly translate to "poorva-nirdharit",which is identical to pre assigned.
A sizable chunk of H1B are Indians.Indians, who , after getting the best education ( for example at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institutes_of_Technology ) at government's ( and tax payer's ) expense, thought not about the society that enabled them, but about the 45 times multiplier ( 1 USD == 45 Indian rupees), and moved to the US.To contribute to a society that didnt invest a penny in them, to a state that is not interested in their welfare, not even in context of basic right to earn a living. Any guesses on where our sympathies lie ?
Its indeed unfortunate for those H1B who lose their shirt.But it is also a stark reminder that irrespective of the progress a society makes, and the freedom and equality it preaches, a migrant will never be on par with a citizen.Gandhi was a victim of discrimination in South Africa, today his children are victims of a different from of discrimination. The world hasnt changed much after al
Bad times dont last for ever. When the recession ebbs, and the economy picks up, maybe the US economy can get a punk rocker citizen to write code.
I am oh so glad I didnt give in to the temptation of pursuing an MS in an US university ( and sell off my ancestral home to pay for it ), getting a job there , only to be sacked thanklessly. I wish some of my brethren had the same foresight and commitment to their own societies that they owe their existence to
And that the auditors were a local subsidiary of PwC, well outside of US jurisdiction.
AFAIK, a US firm is responsible for ethical conduct irrespective of the country it operates in. For example, if your US firm's subsidiary bribes an Indian official , US courts have jurisdiction over the parent company in the matter
If something goes south we can take them to court, but short of that I can drive over to their office and find out for myself what's going on. Not so easy to do if your vendor is in Bangladore, now is it?
Outsourcing is a skill. You cant outsource work to the first tom dick or harry that quotes the lowest. You need to do your homework.Its challenging, and those from your side of the pond who have lived upto the challenge have saved millions of dollars in labor costs.
I have zero sympathy...and the meter readings to prove it
I have zero sympathy too. I and countless others lost our investments overnight as Satyam plummedted 80% within hours.
We can fix our regulatory environment and I frankly don't give a crap what happens in yours.
Unfortunately, the days , when people/comapnies/nations could island themselves economically and didnt give a crap what happened elsewhere, are over.You cannot stay unaffected, and sooner or later, you will be splashing in the very same crap.
Maybe stick to managing your own problems, that might be a good start.
Actually thats exactly what I was doing. I work for a shared project team half of which works in US and half is in Bangalore. Your very own US guy coded a deadlock in a "single writer multiple reader", and yours truly, the cheap coder fixes it.
"Let's see, companies ship thousands of jobs to places that don't have the reporting and oversight capabilities we have here (or at least used to have) and are outside the jurisdiction of US courts in order to save a few bucks at the expense of several thousand local employees"
-------
Yeah sure. Enron was an Indian firm. So was Lehmann. How exactly did the US jurisdictions and having the reporting and oversight prevent them from happening ?
Then said companies get taken to the cleaners because they can't audit their operations on that side of the world properly.
-------
In case you missed the TFA, PwC is from your side of the world, and are complicit in the fraud. Here in India, we have a proverb, which roughly translates to "When you point a finger at someone, 3 of your fingers point to you"
As a native hindi speaking Indian, I vouch for the above response to be fairly accurate :-)
Just to make it a little more accurate,
(ch) should sound like the ch of chicken.
(andra) is like "un" + "the" + "ra", spoken in rapid succession ."un" sounds like "un" of "unknown". The "a" in "ra" is like how you say "a" as in "a boy".
The yarn with a muted r, instead of a soft r is closer home.
"chandra" means moon, and "yaan" means vehicle
Geopolitically, India has long been dehyphenated from Pakistan. Pakistan doesnt need to demand the same treatment because China has been supplying them whatever they want in terms of nuke tech. Even if they do, how does it change anything ? They are a failed state where the military is hand in glove with taliban and terrorists, and no NSG state in its right mind would agree to such a thing for Pakistan.
As an Indian who moved to Bangalore.I dont speak the local language (Kannada) but speak English . Locals here dont speak India's national language (Hindi)but speak English . I and a lot of other people speak English full time. Language is not a problem. Costs are typically 10% of what they would be in US. You can live very comfortably (with a 2 bedroom apartment, an used car, a housekeeping maid, a driver and a cook ) for about Rs 40000 (~USD 1000 ). Your job pays for health insurance. You can reasonably expect Rs 100000+ depending on your abilities ( ~USD 2500 ). In terms of travel/seeing the place, India offers better than what you can expect out of Europe, in terms of diversity. If you are female and young, stay away. You will have people staring and trying to get close
"Attempt to murder", "attempt to rape" are crimes in many countries. The perpetrator wanted to commit to crime, but couldn't. So is abetment In the scams, the victims intend to abet the perpetrators and fail in the attempt. Alternatively, lets say there were a bank heist in your locality, and the robbers couldnt get away with the booty.Instead, they hide it somewhere, and run. Later they offer you a percentage to retrieve the booty.You agree. Would it be a crime ? Probably yes. How are the nigerian scam victims any different ? After all, they wanted to make quick bucks by helping someone get away with ill gotten wealth. Of course there are flaws with this kind of reasoning, but the high commisioner does have a point. Imagine a genuine nigerian firm making a sales pitch to the wetern market.
Big deal.So Hasbro files suit in New York.Can a US court try an Indian citizen for developing a product in India probably without violating any Indian laws ? In that case, Indian Jet airways should sue US Jet Airlines [ http://www.usajetairlines.com/ ] in an Indian court, and claim a trillion in damages, and a perpetual injunction. Finally, even if the US jury awards trillion dollars in damages, unfortunately, US courts do not have jurisdiction over Indian territory.
People pay for something for its value, not its cost.
So how much did it cost Da Vinci to paint Mona Lisa ? A canvas + an easel + a model + brushes + paint.So what justifies the millions And the carriers dont need to justify anything.If you dont see any value in SMS given the prices, use alternate methods. email/fax whatever. That people are willing to pay is the very reason they are paying.
Umm, not necessarily. There ARE master craftsmen who write flawless (almost) stuff. And I dont believe anyone can be bitchy about such code.We had Mark who wrote ~11K lines of C++. Its been 2 years that he left, and we have found 3-4 bugs in it.There have been umpteen bugs in the upstream callers and the downstream callees, but no, not in Marks code.
There have been times when we needed to extend his module's functionality. He had already thought of it, and extending the functionality was a piece of cake.
He wrote about 4K lines of unit testing code with cppunit.And no, it was not the trivial unit tests that checked if the constructors initialized values properly.
He wrote structured and elegant error handling, and his code failed gracefully at negative test cases.
I can go on and on about Mark...Point is that its possible to write code that everyone knows to be non sucker
Here in India too, monster runs a portal (monsterindia.com ). The site is full of holes. I had informed them of the problems by email recently, and they did was respond with a "thank you".That was more than a month ago , the holes are still there.
Some examples:
1. An attacker can create a profile/resume with embedded scripts that will steal a profile viewers cookies and post to remote server.( XSS ). This way, one may steal "employers" details.
2. An attacker can post a job with embedded scripts that can steal a job seekers details.
3. There also are more severe holes that have a bigger impact.
Duh...
The guy is intercepting traffic and stole a cookie. Big deal.
Additional info : If you need the id as well, try base64 decoding of all the fields in the cookie ( dont remember whether it was orkut or gmail that sends out id base64 encoded )
And why exactly is this front page news? The attack is lame, and the technique is script kiddie stuff, and has been around since ages.