Bob, I have to thank you personally on behalf of us all, that post was the perfect antidote to the complete and utter mind numbing waffle contained in the original article.
Music has always been free. It is going to naturally reject the futile attempt to monetise every aspect off it because the next generation of people aren't stupid enough to respect your sort of logic. All musicians are buskers, just some on a larger scale, and much as its right to show appreciation to a busker by tossing a note his way, its wrong for the busker to stop playing, break his guitar over a cheapskates head and then steal his wallet and run off.
Because you paid thirty quid for a game and not a shit piece of metal and plastic?
They had a chance to make CD's indestructable by making them encased, but they decided not to. you still get a fucking case anyway, its just you have to separate the disk from it when you use it!
However well you look after your own stuff, shite engineering is still doomed to a life of failure.
I'm sure there are a few things more worthy of bloodlust than imaginary property. You don't 'win' an arms race by upping the stakes. I thought people here were supposed to be clever. Do you beat someone to death because the sandwich you ordered wasn't quite to your liking? If silly shit like this makes you jump straight to thinking 'armed revolution' then I worry about the future...
For every one of those CD's that you sample without paying for, there are millions of dollars of money and spin off jobs that the RIAA, its lawyers, accountants, lobbyists, bookkeepers, musicians, officer cleaners, etc and so on lose
Well apart from the musicians and maybe the cleaners (because at least they are doing an honest job), I wouldn't want a penny of my cash going to any of those people for any reason whatsoever, so that actually works well for me. Why should I be indirectly funding make-work busybodies that only want to accuse me of being criminal scum?
ps thanks for the most ridiculous round-about argument against anything I have ever heard, I'm sure the pennies you would have thrown at the tax man would make all the difference to the world, compared to you actually doing something pro-active and meaningful in your life.
So is there some example where politicians and working class have equal standards of living elsewhere in the civilised west? Because your implement for attacking socialism is pretty weak. You can find a rich ruling class and a poor working class anywhere you look, and it is not a useful measure of anything other than the fact that rich people will happily lord it over poor people no matter what they believe.
FOSS is more than that, its primary tangible benfit is that it keeps people safe from being milked for every penny they are worth for everyday software that everyone should get the benefit of. Without it there wouldn't be innovation, know that too.
What kind of fucking moron will happily pay for three different players when for all intents and purposes one would and should suffice? Do some people jizz golden dubloons whenever they have a wank or am I missing something else in life? There are problems in life that can be overcome without money you know!
Oh wow Crysis another first person shooter with slightly better graphics than before and developers with a god complex, well good riddance, enjoy your new home.
I actually stopped being a gaming customer specificaly because of being treated with no respect (by DRM, bugs and lies on system requirements), so I'll vouch for this. I wen't from being obsessed with buying new games to being deeply cynical and spiteful overnight, and I don't feel a smidgen of guilt about it. My philosophy, "you are getting paid by me, you don't get to dick me around" and if more people had the balls to use that philosophy, we wouldn't be in this mess.
Everyone I know who actually reads a paper is over 40 and does it the old fashioned way - sitting back with a cup of tea with it spread over the table. Anyone else either gets the news from TV, or reads the BBC website (it doesn't have to be the BBC, but the point is it is free and people find their reasons to trust it). Anyone else still either doesn't give two shits what is happening elsewhere or reads the sun, mainly to look at the tits on their lunch break. The third group of people isn't even inherently political, and could do well without their opinion being subtly subverted by the offal that gets printed in that trash, but unfortunately they've found a good place to leech the thoughts of the general public and no one knows how to get rid of them...but they're nothing but rich fucks trying to talk down to the everyday persons level. Only a bunch of narcissistic cunts could imagine that people really want to hear about what brand of nose hair removal wax the Beckhams are using this week (yes I'm sure theres something more topical than those two attention whores, but I wouldn't care to know about it). 90% of their audience probably have more personal integrity than Murdoch could ever dream about.
So since I don't value Murdoch's opinion that highly, I don't think I am very phased about this news at all:)
Actually, learning / speaking English was not a pleasant experience, too, though many reading materials were superb. The convoluted grammar was a particular PITA.
Well, I have to complement your success though, your English is probably better than most people's in my town.
Let me say this though, even if English wouldn't have been your first choice, you have ended up learning because of needing it - so why should us English speakers get away with not having to learn anything? We can sit and pretend its the de-facto international language, but really it's a last resort, and could have just as easily been French, Spanish, Portuguese with another roll of the dice. We have an astonishing ignorance of the amount of effort put into learning English worldwide. I've met people in every continent with a much better command of english than I have ever achieved myself in another language.
So if the idea of having to learn chinese is discomforting, then good, because we are much too comfortable! Daytime tv tells us to go and enjoy bali, greece and thailand, but I can't remember it once offering the suggestion that it might be good to learn a few words before you go, and everyone I have ever tried to convince stubbornly asserts that it is beyond their capability, well I speak a few words of half a dozen languages so that's bollocks!
This is probably why I the idea of spending time on invented languages irks me somewhat, because if someone is going to put the effort in to learning, it might be nice for the effort to end up being appreciated by some living, everyday people. But I should probably accept that people could have a rational reason to do so...
Apples and oranges. Linux is immediately useful to anybody that wants a computer and doesn't need computer games or other specialist stuff. If people realised that, the special stuff would follow them. It is important because it is the easiest available antidote to Microsoft monoculture. It's fragmented, laissez faire, open ended and doesn't tell you that everything has to be done one way. Its about as similar to esperanto as a tree is to a duck. Which are two different types of things that aren't usually compared!
You may soon learn about this, as Chinese gets more and more prevalent. May you live in interesting times.
Why do you even dress this up with a forboding twist on it? You obviously have some veiled opinion. I personally would love to be able to speak and read Chinese, I just haven't found a good routine for teaching myself. If I wasn't a broke deadbeat, I would probably take lessons. Don't presume it would be some undesirable punishment for everyone!
I think thats over simplifying the issue a bit though. Esperanto will never even have that much of a threat value to cause a reaction like that. I wouldn't rule out something similar to esperanto emerging on its own, but it would be far more natural and spontaneous. The large scale version of languages borrowing words from each other. Individual words being able to float above national borders and become part of a larger world, that sort of thing. It may cause the all around raising of heckles when it does happen, but that would only be a sign that it is useful enough to be considered a 'threat' to traditional ways. At the end of the day, a language is only as good as how useful it is. The only thing really threatened is textbooks, because they wont be able to keep up with the evolutionary process!
For the moment, we have to be proactive and speak other languages, so that people can use their own insight to work towards that end. To have something useful now, learning russian or arabic or anything really is better than learning obscure conlangs that exist only on dead trees and only have the support of their own groups; that just leads to more fragmentation!
Esperanto is a terrible solution to international communication. The intent is good enough, but the strategy is arse backward. There's no readily availabe stream of living usage to learn it from and if you did put the effort into speaking it by the book you'd have no one to talk to anyway! Shouldn't have called it hope, really, the irony is thick....
Seriously, what have people got against learning each others existing languages? Aren't there enough already without having to confuse the situation by inventing more languages, or this iconji, giving you that comfortable reassurance that you don't have to bother anyway because you can just communicate with flash cards and wavy arms! (I already know that, but THANKS ANYWAY ICONJI!)
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Bob, I have to thank you personally on behalf of us all, that post was the perfect antidote to the complete and utter mind numbing waffle contained in the original article.
no matter how much you needed the money.... to buy food? A side effect of a human society where money = instant food :)
Confusing thing sometimes, money is...
Music has always been free. It is going to naturally reject the futile attempt to monetise every aspect off it because the next generation of people aren't stupid enough to respect your sort of logic. All musicians are buskers, just some on a larger scale, and much as its right to show appreciation to a busker by tossing a note his way, its wrong for the busker to stop playing, break his guitar over a cheapskates head and then steal his wallet and run off.
Why would I want to buy a table off someone when I can make a perfectly good one myself for the cost of the wood?
If we did then we'd be able to speak a lot better german...
awesome! I'm glad somebody is finally giving the computerised chart plotting 'industry' a kick up the arse. Maxsea and the like are all awful...
Because you paid thirty quid for a game and not a shit piece of metal and plastic?
They had a chance to make CD's indestructable by making them encased, but they decided not to. you still get a fucking case anyway, its just you have to separate the disk from it when you use it!
However well you look after your own stuff, shite engineering is still doomed to a life of failure.
I'm sure there are a few things more worthy of bloodlust than imaginary property. You don't 'win' an arms race by upping the stakes. I thought people here were supposed to be clever. Do you beat someone to death because the sandwich you ordered wasn't quite to your liking? If silly shit like this makes you jump straight to thinking 'armed revolution' then I worry about the future...
Is that jealousy I hear? Its good on this side of the fence mate, nobody tries to cheat me out of anything :)
For every one of those CD's that you sample without paying for, there are millions of dollars of money and spin off jobs that the RIAA, its lawyers, accountants, lobbyists, bookkeepers, musicians, officer cleaners, etc and so on lose
Well apart from the musicians and maybe the cleaners (because at least they are doing an honest job), I wouldn't want a penny of my cash going to any of those people for any reason whatsoever, so that actually works well for me. Why should I be indirectly funding make-work busybodies that only want to accuse me of being criminal scum?
ps thanks for the most ridiculous round-about argument against anything I have ever heard, I'm sure the pennies you would have thrown at the tax man would make all the difference to the world, compared to you actually doing something pro-active and meaningful in your life.
So is there some example where politicians and working class have equal standards of living elsewhere in the civilised west? Because your implement for attacking socialism is pretty weak. You can find a rich ruling class and a poor working class anywhere you look, and it is not a useful measure of anything other than the fact that rich people will happily lord it over poor people no matter what they believe.
FOSS is more than that, its primary tangible benfit is that it keeps people safe from being milked for every penny they are worth for everyday software that everyone should get the benefit of. Without it there wouldn't be innovation, know that too.
Australians don't drink fosters! Ask anybody.
What kind of fucking moron will happily pay for three different players when for all intents and purposes one would and should suffice? Do some people jizz golden dubloons whenever they have a wank or am I missing something else in life? There are problems in life that can be overcome without money you know!
Oh wow Crysis another first person shooter with slightly better graphics than before and developers with a god complex, well good riddance, enjoy your new home.
Interesting that their schools teach honest fact? Well I've never heard that before... what school did you go to?
And don't ask me why I wrote went with an apostrophe... too early
I actually stopped being a gaming customer specificaly because of being treated with no respect (by DRM, bugs and lies on system requirements), so I'll vouch for this. I wen't from being obsessed with buying new games to being deeply cynical and spiteful overnight, and I don't feel a smidgen of guilt about it. My philosophy, "you are getting paid by me, you don't get to dick me around" and if more people had the balls to use that philosophy, we wouldn't be in this mess.
Everyone I know who actually reads a paper is over 40 and does it the old fashioned way - sitting back with a cup of tea with it spread over the table. Anyone else either gets the news from TV, or reads the BBC website (it doesn't have to be the BBC, but the point is it is free and people find their reasons to trust it). Anyone else still either doesn't give two shits what is happening elsewhere or reads the sun, mainly to look at the tits on their lunch break. The third group of people isn't even inherently political, and could do well without their opinion being subtly subverted by the offal that gets printed in that trash, but unfortunately they've found a good place to leech the thoughts of the general public and no one knows how to get rid of them...but they're nothing but rich fucks trying to talk down to the everyday persons level. Only a bunch of narcissistic cunts could imagine that people really want to hear about what brand of nose hair removal wax the Beckhams are using this week (yes I'm sure theres something more topical than those two attention whores, but I wouldn't care to know about it). 90% of their audience probably have more personal integrity than Murdoch could ever dream about.
So since I don't value Murdoch's opinion that highly, I don't think I am very phased about this news at all :)
Actually, learning / speaking English was not a pleasant experience, too, though many reading materials were superb. The convoluted grammar was a particular PITA.
Well, I have to complement your success though, your English is probably better than most people's in my town.
Let me say this though, even if English wouldn't have been your first choice, you have ended up learning because of needing it - so why should us English speakers get away with not having to learn anything? We can sit and pretend its the de-facto international language, but really it's a last resort, and could have just as easily been French, Spanish, Portuguese with another roll of the dice. We have an astonishing ignorance of the amount of effort put into learning English worldwide. I've met people in every continent with a much better command of english than I have ever achieved myself in another language.
So if the idea of having to learn chinese is discomforting, then good, because we are much too comfortable! Daytime tv tells us to go and enjoy bali, greece and thailand, but I can't remember it once offering the suggestion that it might be good to learn a few words before you go, and everyone I have ever tried to convince stubbornly asserts that it is beyond their capability, well I speak a few words of half a dozen languages so that's bollocks!
This is probably why I the idea of spending time on invented languages irks me somewhat, because if someone is going to put the effort in to learning, it might be nice for the effort to end up being appreciated by some living, everyday people. But I should probably accept that people could have a rational reason to do so...
Now thats a good way to sell it.
Apples and oranges. Linux is immediately useful to anybody that wants a computer and doesn't need computer games or other specialist stuff. If people realised that, the special stuff would follow them. It is important because it is the easiest available antidote to Microsoft monoculture. It's fragmented, laissez faire, open ended and doesn't tell you that everything has to be done one way. Its about as similar to esperanto as a tree is to a duck. Which are two different types of things that aren't usually compared!
You may soon learn about this, as Chinese gets more and more prevalent. May you live in interesting times.
Why do you even dress this up with a forboding twist on it? You obviously have some veiled opinion. I personally would love to be able to speak and read Chinese, I just haven't found a good routine for teaching myself. If I wasn't a broke deadbeat, I would probably take lessons. Don't presume it would be some undesirable punishment for everyone!
I think thats over simplifying the issue a bit though. Esperanto will never even have that much of a threat value to cause a reaction like that. I wouldn't rule out something similar to esperanto emerging on its own, but it would be far more natural and spontaneous. The large scale version of languages borrowing words from each other. Individual words being able to float above national borders and become part of a larger world, that sort of thing. It may cause the all around raising of heckles when it does happen, but that would only be a sign that it is useful enough to be considered a 'threat' to traditional ways. At the end of the day, a language is only as good as how useful it is. The only thing really threatened is textbooks, because they wont be able to keep up with the evolutionary process!
For the moment, we have to be proactive and speak other languages, so that people can use their own insight to work towards that end. To have something useful now, learning russian or arabic or anything really is better than learning obscure conlangs that exist only on dead trees and only have the support of their own groups; that just leads to more fragmentation!
Esperanto is a terrible solution to international communication. The intent is good enough, but the strategy is arse backward. There's no readily availabe stream of living usage to learn it from and if you did put the effort into speaking it by the book you'd have no one to talk to anyway! Shouldn't have called it hope, really, the irony is thick....
Seriously, what have people got against learning each others existing languages? Aren't there enough already without having to confuse the situation by inventing more languages, or this iconji, giving you that comfortable reassurance that you don't have to bother anyway because you can just communicate with flash cards and wavy arms! (I already know that, but THANKS ANYWAY ICONJI!)