Got pretty involved at first, when it was like a mystery and there was backstory to try and untwine.
But then the axons happened. And instead of a mystery, it was like a really straightforward scavenger hunt. And only people in certain cities could play. And the only thing you got out of it were audio clips.
The only actual puzzles that cropped up were solved by the ARG community in a matter of hours. As some people started to interact with the ILB characters, the whole game started to get impacted by the actions of just a person or two. Instead of a community detective story, ILB turned into a quasi-interactive radio play.
Still cool, but sort of a let down to those of us who got a taste of an ARG.
The only way you could say that this is DOOM with just updated graphics is if you've never played the original or never appreciated it.
There's one aspect that is pretty much the same - id is trying to scare you when you play their game. Everything else about the gameplay looks different.
And hey - let's pretend this was DOOM with just better graphics.... SO WHAT? There was game like that - it was called Serious Sam and it was hella fun.
Man, gamers can be the biggest whiners. Isn't there some movie you haven't seen that you can complain about instead?
#1) It's our game, you just play here #2) Technical support is the responsibility of the user #3) Forums may be used to discuss the game at large, unless posts include serious issues with the game or make SOE look bad #4) The game you purchased out of the box may need to be patched, and then patched some more, and then there will be a requisite gameplay change, and then a mandatory expansion, and then another gameplay tweak, and probably all that over again. Thank you for beta testing with SOE, your monthly fee will be deducted from your credit card. #5) Game stability, server performance and non-crash level bugs (like spawning as a wall) are second priority to releasing new material which will cost you more money.
Uh, the point is that this isn't much change. It's a bit of a twist, but the site describes it as revolutionary. Like I said, it's kinda neat execution, but let's not go overboard.
There's a great assassin mod for UT2004 - don't see that get the rage on at/.... hell, if you are feeling the deluge of WW2 games, I don't think you're looking hard enough.
I can admire the originality of the basic premise, and the sim-like "needs" system sounds neat, but in it's core isn't this just a Hunter/Assassin style mod?
This is getting so much press because everyone loves a Smart FlameWar (tm)... not so much about the license, which there's not much indication he'd actually get (and has made it clear he is getting it regardless of what the fanbase thinks)
OK, apologies if this has already been brought up.
Harlan Ellison wrote a screenplay for I, Robot with assistance from Asimov many moons ago. Asimov was extremely happy with this screenplay and felt it would make a great, serious adult sf film.
Sadly, it was never made, but they did make the Illustrated Screenplay:
Clearly, this movie isn't that version. It comes from "Batman & Robin" Akiva, and hence I'm pretty suspect of it. Wish they had kept their original title and left Asimov alone.
I'm loving CoH, but $15/mo was almost to much for me to sign onto.
And I have a couple of friends who are interested, but they don't want to drop down $50 for a potential monthly. I think it would make more sense to include the free trial month, but drop the price to $35 as well.
Sooner or later all these high end engines are going to raise the cost of games. Every time these guys go from 10,000 to 100,000 poly models, that's just that much more time spent in a studio trying to get killer models done, and then there's the additional texture work, sound, etc.
The engine might come out of the box to run at these level, but the asset work still requires that much more work to complete.
I'm seeing this all over the place in the (unreal) mod community. People don't want small mods anymore, they want commercial quality games. The problem is - making that quality gets more time consuming, requires more organization, etc. Few mod teams have the steam and those that do can rarely get out innovative work (which IMO, is the job of mods)... or they're small pro shops looking to make a name for themselves.
I'm actually looking to make use of the 2D aspects of Unreal to lower asset costs.
But back on topic - the high end nature of the graphics keep increasing the production costs, which eventually are going to have to increase product cost.
Sadly, offline portions to online games that are really connected are almost always cheatfests. See Diablo for more.
City Of Heroes, however, can have some rewarding non-team aspects to it. I spent half of last night waving off team and sidekick requests because I just wanted to level up on my own for a while. Plus, it has the neat side effect that you can party up without even really doing so. Several brawls I got into had impromtu assists by wandering heroes.
For an offline/online experience - I think we'll need to wait for a different persistence model. One that is relatively unexploitable. I'm playing with this in Unreal mods - the idea that all the "character" information is in fact stored on the client, but that the idea of how powerful a character can be is controlled by the server. That way you can play offline or online on different servers, and everyone is happy.
First generation PSP games are probably going to swiftly ported versions of PS1 and PS2 games, of which Sony, et al, will probably make a bundle off of before the hardcore development begins.
I can't take Infinium seriously, no matter what they tell people, or get a write up, or try to push off as a demo. Any company that used an email form for beta sign ups on vaporware is, imho, never to be trusted again.
Not possible. The demo doesn't have either complete enough or the latest stable of code to get mods (particularly of RO's scale) running.
Tell your friends to get off the cheap wagon. UT2k4 is worthy buy on it's own, and this next couple of months you are going to see dozens of mods large and small that you'll be able to download for free. Easily the best bang for your FPS buck right now.
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Got pretty involved at first, when it was like a mystery and there was backstory to try and untwine.
But then the axons happened. And instead of a mystery, it was like a really straightforward scavenger hunt. And only people in certain cities could play. And the only thing you got out of it were audio clips.
The only actual puzzles that cropped up were solved by the ARG community in a matter of hours. As some people started to interact with the ILB characters, the whole game started to get impacted by the actions of just a person or two. Instead of a community detective story, ILB turned into a quasi-interactive radio play.
Still cool, but sort of a let down to those of us who got a taste of an ARG.
blackula, Wed. July 21st said:
" I'm a pretentious fuckhead, too! "
You're a man of many talents, that's for sure.
But I'm not sure how porting emulators of weaker hardware to the Dreamcast in any way constitutes "pushing it's boundaries".
The only way you could say that this is DOOM with just updated graphics is if you've never played the original or never appreciated it.
.... SO WHAT? There was game like that - it was called Serious Sam and it was hella fun.
There's one aspect that is pretty much the same - id is trying to scare you when you play their game. Everything else about the gameplay looks different.
And hey - let's pretend this was DOOM with just better graphics
Man, gamers can be the biggest whiners. Isn't there some movie you haven't seen that you can complain about instead?
He isn't taking into account the correct variables.
... 2 years. Different engine.
... 5 years. Different engine.
It depends utterly on what tech id uses.
Doom -> Doom 2. Took 1 year apart. Why? Same engine.
Doom2 -> Quake
Quake 3 -> Doom 3
So if, as rumored, id Project X uses the same engine (or a mildly improved one), we'll probably see it 2005, 2006 at the latest.
Not 2007
Id suggested, but not come right and said, that the low player MP is more of a gameplay decision and not really much of a technical one.
They make it sound as if mods and 3rd party games wont have a problem pushing that limit.
From the IGN interview:
"We're actually shipping all of the source maps for the game. No game has done this and no game is going to do this."
That's categorically wrong. The Unreal series has always included their map sources. Maybe one should do some homework on other engines?
I forgot:
#6) If you have any problems with the Laws, see #1
#1) It's our game, you just play here
#2) Technical support is the responsibility of the user
#3) Forums may be used to discuss the game at large, unless posts include serious issues with the game or make SOE look bad
#4) The game you purchased out of the box may need to be patched, and then patched some more, and then there will be a requisite gameplay change, and then a mandatory expansion, and then another gameplay tweak, and probably all that over again. Thank you for beta testing with SOE, your monthly fee will be deducted from your credit card.
#5) Game stability, server performance and non-crash level bugs (like spawning as a wall) are second priority to releasing new material which will cost you more money.
Uh, the point is that this isn't much change. It's a bit of a twist, but the site describes it as revolutionary. Like I said, it's kinda neat execution, but let's not go overboard.
/. ... hell, if you are feeling the deluge of WW2 games, I don't think you're looking hard enough.
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There's a great assassin mod for UT2004 - don't see that get the rage on at
http://unrealmods.org/list_mods.php?engine=ut2k
I can admire the originality of the basic premise, and the sim-like "needs" system sounds neat, but in it's core isn't this just a Hunter/Assassin style mod?
This is getting so much press because everyone loves a Smart FlameWar (tm) ... not so much about the license, which there's not much indication he'd actually get (and has made it clear he is getting it regardless of what the fanbase thinks)
OK, apologies if this has already been brought up.
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Harlan Ellison wrote a screenplay for I, Robot with assistance from Asimov many moons ago. Asimov was extremely happy with this screenplay and felt it would make a great, serious adult sf film.
Sadly, it was never made, but they did make the Illustrated Screenplay:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0
Clearly, this movie isn't that version. It comes from "Batman & Robin" Akiva, and hence I'm pretty suspect of it. Wish they had kept their original title and left Asimov alone.
I'm loving CoH, but $15/mo was almost to much for me to sign onto.
And I have a couple of friends who are interested, but they don't want to drop down $50 for a potential monthly. I think it would make more sense to include the free trial month, but drop the price to $35 as well.
Sooner or later all these high end engines are going to raise the cost of games. Every time these guys go from 10,000 to 100,000 poly models, that's just that much more time spent in a studio trying to get killer models done, and then there's the additional texture work, sound, etc.
... or they're small pro shops looking to make a name for themselves.
The engine might come out of the box to run at these level, but the asset work still requires that much more work to complete.
I'm seeing this all over the place in the (unreal) mod community. People don't want small mods anymore, they want commercial quality games. The problem is - making that quality gets more time consuming, requires more organization, etc. Few mod teams have the steam and those that do can rarely get out innovative work (which IMO, is the job of mods)
I'm actually looking to make use of the 2D aspects of Unreal to lower asset costs.
But back on topic - the high end nature of the graphics keep increasing the production costs, which eventually are going to have to increase product cost.
Sadly, offline portions to online games that are really connected are almost always cheatfests. See Diablo for more.
City Of Heroes, however, can have some rewarding non-team aspects to it. I spent half of last night waving off team and sidekick requests because I just wanted to level up on my own for a while. Plus, it has the neat side effect that you can party up without even really doing so. Several brawls I got into had impromtu assists by wandering heroes.
For an offline/online experience - I think we'll need to wait for a different persistence model. One that is relatively unexploitable. I'm playing with this in Unreal mods - the idea that all the "character" information is in fact stored on the client, but that the idea of how powerful a character can be is controlled by the server. That way you can play offline or online on different servers, and everyone is happy.
First generation PSP games are probably going to swiftly ported versions of PS1 and PS2 games, of which Sony, et al, will probably make a bundle off of before the hardcore development begins.
Sneakers have been around since before Wolfenstein got a "3D" to it's name...
I can't take Infinium seriously, no matter what they tell people, or get a write up, or try to push off as a demo. Any company that used an email form for beta sign ups on vaporware is, imho, never to be trusted again.
it's generally been my expierence that most "unexpected outcomes" are euphemisms for bugs ;)
http://unrealmods.org
Check out the mods for UT2004 - that's where real gameplay innovation seems to occur.
you can look here: unrealmods.org
Not possible. The demo doesn't have either complete enough or the latest stable of code to get mods (particularly of RO's scale) running.
Tell your friends to get off the cheap wagon. UT2k4 is worthy buy on it's own, and this next couple of months you are going to see dozens of mods large and small that you'll be able to download for free. Easily the best bang for your FPS buck right now.
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But when they slap those awards onto advertising - the awards sure as hell are, and I think people should know how these awards were granted.
If you saw a box that said "Best Action Game of 2001!!!" are you telling me you don't expect that that game actually was playable in 2001?
If the trade show is just for insiders, keep the awards on the inside.