I think that argument is constitutionally unsound, and is exactly the kind of thing the Double Jeapordy clause is meant to guard against. If the prosecution doesn't like the venue, they can argue for a change of venue, but they don't get to go for a second round by just going to a different level of government.
It was a change of venue that put the case in question before the Simi Valley jury in the first place. The 5th Amendment was NOT written for this kind of case. It was to protect the innocent from retrial. Asserting that these LAPD detectives were innocent doesn't even pass the giggle test.
If you kill a lot of people and that makes it harder for you to get away with it, well, sucks to be you.
Then you miss the point. A trial is about determining guilt, you can't presume to make that determination when discussing the arena where guilt is determined.
The best example of double jeopardy being violated is the Rodney King beating.
The officers were acquitted on state charges only to be found guilty of federal civil rights charges.
Excellent example. But that case is so complex. One could argue that with the first trial the Officers were never in Jeopardy because the Simi Valley jury were never going to convict white cops for beating a black motorist.
Personally I think that they deserved to lose their jobs, at the least, and possibly go to jail, but I don't like the way it was done.
Area 51, Hanger 18, whatever - even if this stuff had been going on, you can bet that they would have been cleared out the second someone official heard people talking about it.
Opposite sides of the country man. Area 51 is in Nevada. Hangar 18 is in Ohio, at the Wright Patterson AFB. In fact, I've been to Wright Patterson. It was in 1992, my cousin had just received a commission as a 2nd Lt. I asked him if he knew where Hanger 18 was, he had no idea.
The FCC can control TV and Radio broadcasts because they use public airways, how can they dictate anything that does not use public airways to transmit content?
My problem with thin clients comes from the fact that too much power resides with the one who controls the servers.
Imagine if you will, our world 15 or 20 years from now. Let's also imagine that in this future computing moves exclusively to thin clients/big servers. If the government or a large corporation doesn't like the idea of people doing something (political dissent, bad product reviews, unprofitable exercise of fair use rights) all they have to do is convince (legislate, sue, buy out) the one who controls the central server.
If we're all on thin clients and the "computing service providor" of the future decided that we shouldn't be speaking ill of the current president, it won't be hard at all to shut down ALL such dissent.
Think it sounds a little paranoid? So what. I don't care. Recent history bears this out. For example, how many people here know that initially there were reports coming out of Columbine were that a 3rd gunman was lead away in handcuffs?
How about 20/20 investigation that came up with proof that the Justice Department's Executive Secretatiat's Office was recieved a call informing them that "The Oklahoma federal building has just been bombed!", 24 minutes before the explosion.
Consolidation of power makes it easier to quash. On a large scale, Thin Clients could be a very bad thing.
Michael Moore is what Opensource means against Microsoft (or any closed source giant)
I call bullshit here. RMS, ESR, and Linus have never gotten an interview with Steve Ballmer under false pretenses and proceeded to blindside them with idiotic questions and absurd assertions.
Will it be aired in (sorry, foreigner here) in ABC for instance?
Aside from their own work (20/20, Dateline, 60 Minutes, et al.) I have never seen anything that could even remotely be considered a documentary aired by ABC, NBC, CBS or FOX.
If you are a Bush supporter and got mad to the documentary itself, please tell so.
I am a "Bush supporter" but my beef with Michael Moore goes back further than this.
Don't hide behind "news for nerds" slogan validity.
One could argue that this falls under "stuff that matters", but it is definately NOT news for nerds.
When I was 13 years old I used to call Gateway and request help. Most of the time they didn't even give me an answer, they would just hang up. F U Gateway!:)
Several years back I had the 1.2 GB IDE drive in my first linux box start developing bad sectors. I called WD to arrange for a warranty replacement and the guy on the other end of the phone said that he couldn't help me unless I gave him the error code from the WD Diag program.
I had already boxed up the drive and didn't want to go through the headache. At that time I was a Mac user as well so I told the guy that I had been using it on a Macintosh and couldn't run the software. He gave me an RMA number immediately.
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I think we all know the most elusive open problem in number theory is "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?
Three. Dumbass. They solved that one when I was a kid.
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You really just butchered an otherwise fine joke.
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echnology Review has an interesting story from the inventor of the Ethernet...
Al Gore, is that you?
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Other than "because we can", is there any real reason to do this?
Sure you get lower power usage and lower temps than with normal PCs, but you sacrifice performance for those gains.
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In the industrialized world, just about everyone who wants a computer has one.
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I think that argument is constitutionally unsound, and is exactly the kind of thing the Double Jeapordy clause is meant to guard against. If the prosecution doesn't like the venue, they can argue for a change of venue, but they don't get to go for a second round by just going to a different level of government.
It was a change of venue that put the case in question before the Simi Valley jury in the first place. The 5th Amendment was NOT written for this kind of case. It was to protect the innocent from retrial. Asserting that these LAPD detectives were innocent doesn't even pass the giggle test.
If you kill a lot of people and that makes it harder for you to get away with it, well, sucks to be you.
Then you miss the point. A trial is about determining guilt, you can't presume to make that determination when discussing the arena where guilt is determined.
LK
Time to hang out the "Hi, Mom!" signs.
Nah! A "Cops and Insurance Agents suck!" banner would be so much better.
LK
The best example of double jeopardy being violated is the Rodney King beating.
The officers were acquitted on state charges only to be found guilty of federal civil rights charges.
Excellent example. But that case is so complex. One could argue that with the first trial the Officers were never in Jeopardy because the Simi Valley jury were never going to convict white cops for beating a black motorist.
Personally I think that they deserved to lose their jobs, at the least, and possibly go to jail, but I don't like the way it was done.
LK
From the 5th Amendment.
" nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb;"
Your money is neither your life nor your limb. Like it or not Double Jeopardy is only for criminal prosecution.
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With all the growth, batteries are very similar in technology to where they were 10 or 15 years ago.
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that batteries have existed for over 200 years. Maybe we're nearing the brick wall of performance.
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Even if it was a prototype B2, and no one knew what it was. That by definition would make it a UFO.
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Area 51, Hanger 18, whatever - even if this stuff had been going on, you can bet that they would have been cleared out the second someone official heard people talking about it.
Opposite sides of the country man. Area 51 is in Nevada. Hangar 18 is in Ohio, at the Wright Patterson AFB. In fact, I've been to Wright Patterson. It was in 1992, my cousin had just received a commission as a 2nd Lt. I asked him if he knew where Hanger 18 was, he had no idea.
LK
My Barton 2800+ has a lower clock speed than the Thorobred B 2800+, but it crunches numbers faster.
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Dupe?
No. That was about the official release, but to MandrakeClub members. This is about the free release of the ISOs.
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The /. effect should help the bittorent along greatly though.
In theory sure, but have you ever tried to download a hugely popular file that only has a few seeds?
I have, it sucks.
LK
The FCC can control TV and Radio broadcasts because they use public airways, how can they dictate anything that does not use public airways to transmit content?
LK
Excellent points. Illegal filesharing is one thing, but the practice of pre-emptive "revenue protection" lawsuits is something else.
How long before companies start suing people who write unfavorable reviews? Or for giving a favorable review to a competitor's product?
LK
My problem with thin clients comes from the fact that too much power resides with the one who controls the servers.
Imagine if you will, our world 15 or 20 years from now. Let's also imagine that in this future computing moves exclusively to thin clients/big servers. If the government or a large corporation doesn't like the idea of people doing something (political dissent, bad product reviews, unprofitable exercise of fair use rights) all they have to do is convince (legislate, sue, buy out) the one who controls the central server.
If we're all on thin clients and the "computing service providor" of the future decided that we shouldn't be speaking ill of the current president, it won't be hard at all to shut down ALL such dissent.
Think it sounds a little paranoid? So what. I don't care. Recent history bears this out. For example, how many people here know that initially there were reports coming out of Columbine were that a 3rd gunman was lead away in handcuffs?
How about 20/20 investigation that came up with proof that the Justice Department's Executive Secretatiat's Office was recieved a call informing them that "The Oklahoma federal building has just been bombed!", 24 minutes before the explosion.
Consolidation of power makes it easier to quash. On a large scale, Thin Clients could be a very bad thing.
LK
In what way is this "News for Nerds"?
This is "News For Liberal Nerds".
LK
Michael Moore is what Opensource means against Microsoft (or any closed source giant)
I call bullshit here. RMS, ESR, and Linus have never gotten an interview with Steve Ballmer under false pretenses and proceeded to blindside them with idiotic questions and absurd assertions.
Will it be aired in (sorry, foreigner here) in ABC for instance?
Aside from their own work (20/20, Dateline, 60 Minutes, et al.) I have never seen anything that could even remotely be considered a documentary aired by ABC, NBC, CBS or FOX.
If you are a Bush supporter and got mad to the documentary itself, please tell so.
I am a "Bush supporter" but my beef with Michael Moore goes back further than this.
Don't hide behind "news for nerds" slogan validity.
One could argue that this falls under "stuff that matters", but it is definately NOT news for nerds.
LK
Sounds like the "adult film industry" professionaly who constantly talk about how demanding the business is.
Getting paid to cum on the faces of really hot women must be such a trying endeavor.
LK
let's not kid ourselves. It'll take thousands of these plants to produce enough oil to reduce our foreign dependance. We use a LOT of oil here.
LK
When I was 13 years old I used to call Gateway and request help. Most of the time they didn't even give me an answer, they would just hang up. F U Gateway! :)
That was probably because you had Dell.
LK
Several years back I had the 1.2 GB IDE drive in my first linux box start developing bad sectors. I called WD to arrange for a warranty replacement and the guy on the other end of the phone said that he couldn't help me unless I gave him the error code from the WD Diag program.
I had already boxed up the drive and didn't want to go through the headache. At that time I was a Mac user as well so I told the guy that I had been using it on a Macintosh and couldn't run the software. He gave me an RMA number immediately.
LK
Cut the Chinese off. Internet access is heavily restricted in China anyway.
But who says that Communists don't understand commerce?
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