If he took the bus (though Russian territory) then obviously that was kept on the down low.
If an airport terminal in a country can be considered "not in a country" and that works, and a hotel can also be considered "not really in a country", why not a bus?
For that matter, the whole idea of countries is purely artificial anyway. The US isn't respecting agreed upon international law anyway. They're only not pulling him out of the airport, bus, hotel, or whatever because that would create more headaches than not taking revenge on him. And because they probably expect to get him anyway.
Argh! Why is it whenever I try to relate biology to something on slashdot, you come along and top me and then get all the precious mod points?!? It hasn't happened yet, but it will! Curse you and your superior biology knowledge!
Having been to their website once (morbid curiosity), I'd say they had computers in the mid-nineties, set up the website, and then got rid of them all. I recall a lot of GIFs and blinking text.
Ha ha, I'm making fun of their lack of web design skills. Also they're terrible fucking hypocrites who will burn in hell. That's funny too.
This is nothing unique to capitalism. The red queen hypothesis applies in evolution: organisms need to reproduce, adapt, and evolve not to get ahead but merely to exist when all other life is likewise trying to expand and evolve. Seems stupid, sure, but if it's a process that worked to get life to this point, I suppose it's not absurd that it works in business as well.
The short-term focus on the other hand, and willingness to sacrifice long-term for the short payoff, yes, that seems positively stupid and damaging. Though I suppose life does that too. Bacteria are winning at evolution by most standards, and individual microbes don't live a thousandth of how long turtles live.
It's pretty shocking that after having been caught lying to congress about the program, they're STILL LYING ABOUT IT. They must not think much of us. I guess they've been reading all our e-mails, they probably know us pretty well and are right to think that we'll let it slide.
Reminding ourselves that they don't know what they're messing with may make us feel better, but I worry it makes threats like these seem less dangerous. They still can break things we hold dear. Moreso if they have no idea what they're doing. It's like telling yourself a kid doesn't know how to use your laptop: that's the problem, they can throw it on the floor and piss on it. Furthermore, the fact that they are ignorant isn't what's troubling. If they knew EXACTLY what they were doing with CISPA or ACTA, that doesn't really make much difference.
So lets not bother laughing about how they think of the internet as a series of tubes. The internet is not a god, it may route around censorship and damage, but that doesn't mean it's all going to be okay. And how dare they fucking think they have the right to censor anyway. Ignorance doesn't excuse it. You brits ought to bring back the stocks for politicians who try to trample on your rights. Throw porn and rotten tomatoes in their actual faces. And broken glass.
So do it anyway. Why do you assume it's totally ineffective? A form letter of any kind doesn't mean anything. They count the number of people who contact them about an issue: it's a good indication of whether it could hurt their chances of getting re-elected.
Your other senator, Pat Roberts, doesn't appear to have made any comments on the NSA or Snowden recently, though I didn't dig too deep. He did defend the program under Bush, but no one is going to call him out on it if he flip flops on it.
Anyway, if enough people call, any representative interested in staying in office (all of them) will at least not vote to preserve the NSA. It's a long shot, but it's slightly longer if you decide you'd rather spend the 5 minutes it would take to call picking your nose instead.
Indeed, I'm wondering what the "unwelcome" changes could possibly be. They seem to have already happened. You're telling me this isn't the nadir of film?
Sea urchins spew out sperm and eggs into the ocean, making millions of embryos. The numbers is the advantage. Each individual embryo is incredibly weak and defenseless, most will be gulped up by some predator. Doesn't matter, enough will get through for the sea urchin to successfully reproduce.
This guy shot down a MS patent in 15 minutes? Every bit helps, but until we do something about the thousands of parasitic, idiotic patents that people aren't catching, it won't be much.
For this metaphor to REALLY fit, sea urchins would have to attach to computers, mobile phones, and technology and eat it. But fortunately they don't. That would be really annoying and gross.
Some GPs hand out antibiotics like candy, if you have one, switch to a different doctor. One bad doctor doesn't mean all doctors are bad. And it's not because of insurance companies either, that has nothing to do with the issues you're bringing up. Lastly, the internet is not a good replacement, you need an outside opinion. Nothing is perfect, but it's precisely parents deciding for themselves that leads to the anti-vax movement and to doctors being pressured into giving out antibiotics for viruses. If we take an all or nothing approach, we'd be better off saying parents have no say in medical choices rather than saying doctors shouldn't.
Sure, but let's not put this on Walters or even McCarthy. If you're taking advice from the tee vee on your children's medical treatment beyond "Hey, stupid, take your kid to the fucking doctor," then that's on you. It would be nice if someone in the media would slap the microphone out of their hands, sure, but it's the parents that have the responsibility and the blame.
I'm worried about that too, but I calm down when I realize it might backfire. I was sent to Catholic schools from grade school to high school. I'm now convinced the best way to make sure a kid is agnostic or atheist when he grows up is forcing him to study religion in high school from your average high school teacher. Perhaps surveillance states in schools will be the best way to teach subsequent generations that it's a fucking annoying nightmare that should never be tolerated by people who consider themselves free.
I mean, our generations grew up without it, and we're giving a big fat "meh, It's probably a good thing, they say it is" to 1984 coming true. Maybe it's because we never lived it.
There's going to be a gap in history of things lost due to unreadable formats and hardware failures where the data isn't even there to read, and that's not even counting things like DRM and data in the cloud that just gets deleted when the company fucks up or closes.
You're summing up, what, thousands of media formats, from CDROM to tweets to servers, and saying it's all, across the board going to evaporate? Ridiculous. Some will be lost yes, but we don't need to carve every facebook status in granite for historians to have ample data. DRM? I suppose that will be a barrier for historical purposes, but I'd suggest "paper rotting or burning in a fire or being stolen" is a much bigger hurdle that historians and archeologists have overcome than "figuring out.doc files." There will be abundant amounts of data left over.]
The loss is can already be experienced daily...
The same is true for all history and has always been true.
... and it can pretty much only get worse.
That's outright bullshit and I can't see how it got modded up with anything besides funny. You're saying we're forever stuck writing things in digital sand before the tide comes in? That's idiotic.
I don't see that as being necessarily true. There are obviously plenty of poster cases already to point to to get people to care about it. Military style police equipment is expensive, those who don't care about innocent people being torn to shreds by police might care that it was their tax dollars being used to do it.
From my perspective, we could be at the point where a straw could break the camel's back, where one viral video of a "legal" home invasion and manslaughter could start the process.
I'm not saying I think that's about to happen. In fact, I really doubt it. Just you state it like a certainty. People are rarely good at predicting when revolutions are going to happen or are not going to happen.
Personally, I'm trying to remember which password I used on it.
Reminds me of an old joke: a man looks glum, his friend asks what's wrong. The man says "I got a call from some guy, he said to stop sleeping with his wife or he'd kill me." Friend "Oh, that's too bad." Man: "The worst part is, he didn't say who his wife was."
First off, it takes multiple types of people to make any real breakthrough. Most of the scientific names we remember were either extrordinarily lucky or were only the part of the team that was most adept at PR. Edison had a stable of scientists working for him, some would say all he did was steal their creativity. Watson was half of the duo credited with discovering DNA, the other half did LSD, and there were multiple other people who may have deserved more credit than Watson anyway. We find the idea of one lone idiot savant appealing, but really the people who advance science the most are more often than not part of a team. And spatial ability doesn't seem to correlate with team player skills.
Second... okay, we might be able to identify the few lone wolf scientists better. What then? We tell them they're the next Tesla and encourage them to enter STEM, while someone who is not good at the Rubix cube, we tell them to go into finance? Perhaps colleges would have an incentive to include spatial ability on the SAT or ACT, but we're not exactly telling people they can't go to college if they can't picture a combustion engine in their heads.
I'm impressed with your trolling ability. Slashdot trolls have been doing little more than copy and paste these days. Trolling that's actually following the conversation, that's a rarity.
Trolls here would probably be better at their game if they went and got a good alignment at a licensed chiropractor, then used myclean PC on their windows phones which are infinitely superior to chromebooks.
If anyone is wondering why they declined it last year:
According to Justice Minister Lord McNally,
“It is tragic that Alan Turing was convicted of an offence which now seems both cruel and absurd, particularly given his outstanding contribution to the war effort,” he said.
“However, the law at the time required a prosecution and, as such, long-standing policy has been to accept that such convictions took place and, rather than trying to alter the historical context and to put right what cannot be put right, ensure instead that we never again return to those times.”
Source. I guess it makes sense when you put it like that. Pardoning at best does nothing to change the people whose lives were ruined, justice is not done, it never can be. An acknowledgement that the country is capable of doing very bad things is probably better than patting ourselves on the back for fixing our grandparent's mistakes.
"Similar" is the key word here, GP didn't say "exactly the same." The scouts aren't chemically castrating, sure, but in a sense, they're doing worse. They're taking the ultimate action they can against gay people and kicking them out. There's no harsher action the boy scouts could take without breaking the law. The equivalent for the british government would be executing Turing or deporting him.
And there's also the fact that everyone was homophobic back then. Doesn't make it right for the British government, but it's at least a mitigating factor. The boy scouts on the other hand are ignoring everyone telling them to not be dicks about it. Bill gates is right: it's fucking 2013, this is unacceptable. The boy scouts are worse.
It is more falsifiable than evolution. "Micro" evolution can be demonstrated in a lab, so can the fact that carbon dioxide insulates heat, evolution and climate change are scaled up versions of that. More to the point, climate change itself is falsifiable. We're doing the experiment right now. If we had a few control earths, we could do the experiment proper and not worry about destroying the only one we have, but as we only have the one test tube to test the experiment, it strikes me as utterly fucking stupid to continue emitting carbon while pretending we don't know what is going to happen.
Still wrong. The point is that yahoo has just killed the one use for Tumblr. Yahoo shutting down their search engine would be less surprising to me. Admittedly, I haven't looked at numbers on that, maybe people still haven't heard of this "google" thing, and maybe a lot of people love sharing cat photos on tumblr.
The censorship thing isn't important. There are one or two other websites on the internet where you can get porn.
It's a little obnoxious for you to be saying that given the amount of denial that is still going on with carbon emissions and evolution. I mean "We can't let science speak" is the motto for the republican party. This time the science backs up the pro-buisiness side, and you're acting as if the greens are trying to censor it? For god's sake, it's on slashdot: it must have been in the news three weeks ago!
I'd hope that Washington would be smart enough not to make martyrs of them like that. NOT because I disagree with opposing drones, just because if the government is so stupid as to make that mistake, we're fucked.
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If he took the bus (though Russian territory) then obviously that was kept on the down low.
If an airport terminal in a country can be considered "not in a country" and that works, and a hotel can also be considered "not really in a country", why not a bus?
For that matter, the whole idea of countries is purely artificial anyway. The US isn't respecting agreed upon international law anyway. They're only not pulling him out of the airport, bus, hotel, or whatever because that would create more headaches than not taking revenge on him. And because they probably expect to get him anyway.
Argh! Why is it whenever I try to relate biology to something on slashdot, you come along and top me and then get all the precious mod points?!? It hasn't happened yet, but it will! Curse you and your superior biology knowledge!
Having been to their website once (morbid curiosity), I'd say they had computers in the mid-nineties, set up the website, and then got rid of them all. I recall a lot of GIFs and blinking text.
Ha ha, I'm making fun of their lack of web design skills. Also they're terrible fucking hypocrites who will burn in hell. That's funny too.
This is nothing unique to capitalism. The red queen hypothesis applies in evolution: organisms need to reproduce, adapt, and evolve not to get ahead but merely to exist when all other life is likewise trying to expand and evolve. Seems stupid, sure, but if it's a process that worked to get life to this point, I suppose it's not absurd that it works in business as well.
The short-term focus on the other hand, and willingness to sacrifice long-term for the short payoff, yes, that seems positively stupid and damaging. Though I suppose life does that too. Bacteria are winning at evolution by most standards, and individual microbes don't live a thousandth of how long turtles live.
It's pretty shocking that after having been caught lying to congress about the program, they're STILL LYING ABOUT IT. They must not think much of us. I guess they've been reading all our e-mails, they probably know us pretty well and are right to think that we'll let it slide.
Reminding ourselves that they don't know what they're messing with may make us feel better, but I worry it makes threats like these seem less dangerous. They still can break things we hold dear. Moreso if they have no idea what they're doing. It's like telling yourself a kid doesn't know how to use your laptop: that's the problem, they can throw it on the floor and piss on it. Furthermore, the fact that they are ignorant isn't what's troubling. If they knew EXACTLY what they were doing with CISPA or ACTA, that doesn't really make much difference.
So lets not bother laughing about how they think of the internet as a series of tubes. The internet is not a god, it may route around censorship and damage, but that doesn't mean it's all going to be okay. And how dare they fucking think they have the right to censor anyway. Ignorance doesn't excuse it. You brits ought to bring back the stocks for politicians who try to trample on your rights. Throw porn and rotten tomatoes in their actual faces. And broken glass.
Ah... and now I realize it's not the senate. Well fuck it. Call them anyway.
So do it anyway. Why do you assume it's totally ineffective? A form letter of any kind doesn't mean anything. They count the number of people who contact them about an issue: it's a good indication of whether it could hurt their chances of getting re-elected.
Also, as far as senators go, Moran didn't go raving about terrorists and security. That statement sounds like as of the 4th of july, he hadn't decided which way his voters were leaning.
Your other senator, Pat Roberts, doesn't appear to have made any comments on the NSA or Snowden recently, though I didn't dig too deep. He did defend the program under Bush, but no one is going to call him out on it if he flip flops on it.
Anyway, if enough people call, any representative interested in staying in office (all of them) will at least not vote to preserve the NSA. It's a long shot, but it's slightly longer if you decide you'd rather spend the 5 minutes it would take to call picking your nose instead.
Indeed, I'm wondering what the "unwelcome" changes could possibly be. They seem to have already happened. You're telling me this isn't the nadir of film?
Also they're taking the sea urchin approach.
Sea urchins spew out sperm and eggs into the ocean, making millions of embryos. The numbers is the advantage. Each individual embryo is incredibly weak and defenseless, most will be gulped up by some predator. Doesn't matter, enough will get through for the sea urchin to successfully reproduce.
This guy shot down a MS patent in 15 minutes? Every bit helps, but until we do something about the thousands of parasitic, idiotic patents that people aren't catching, it won't be much.
For this metaphor to REALLY fit, sea urchins would have to attach to computers, mobile phones, and technology and eat it. But fortunately they don't. That would be really annoying and gross.
Some GPs hand out antibiotics like candy, if you have one, switch to a different doctor. One bad doctor doesn't mean all doctors are bad. And it's not because of insurance companies either, that has nothing to do with the issues you're bringing up. Lastly, the internet is not a good replacement, you need an outside opinion. Nothing is perfect, but it's precisely parents deciding for themselves that leads to the anti-vax movement and to doctors being pressured into giving out antibiotics for viruses. If we take an all or nothing approach, we'd be better off saying parents have no say in medical choices rather than saying doctors shouldn't.
Sure, but let's not put this on Walters or even McCarthy. If you're taking advice from the tee vee on your children's medical treatment beyond "Hey, stupid, take your kid to the fucking doctor," then that's on you. It would be nice if someone in the media would slap the microphone out of their hands, sure, but it's the parents that have the responsibility and the blame.
I'm worried about that too, but I calm down when I realize it might backfire. I was sent to Catholic schools from grade school to high school. I'm now convinced the best way to make sure a kid is agnostic or atheist when he grows up is forcing him to study religion in high school from your average high school teacher. Perhaps surveillance states in schools will be the best way to teach subsequent generations that it's a fucking annoying nightmare that should never be tolerated by people who consider themselves free.
I mean, our generations grew up without it, and we're giving a big fat "meh, It's probably a good thing, they say it is" to 1984 coming true. Maybe it's because we never lived it.
There's going to be a gap in history of things lost due to unreadable formats and hardware failures where the data isn't even there to read, and that's not even counting things like DRM and data in the cloud that just gets deleted when the company fucks up or closes.
You're summing up, what, thousands of media formats, from CDROM to tweets to servers, and saying it's all, across the board going to evaporate? Ridiculous. Some will be lost yes, but we don't need to carve every facebook status in granite for historians to have ample data. DRM? I suppose that will be a barrier for historical purposes, but I'd suggest "paper rotting or burning in a fire or being stolen" is a much bigger hurdle that historians and archeologists have overcome than "figuring out .doc files." There will be abundant amounts of data left over.]
The loss is can already be experienced daily...
The same is true for all history and has always been true.
... and it can pretty much only get worse.
That's outright bullshit and I can't see how it got modded up with anything besides funny. You're saying we're forever stuck writing things in digital sand before the tide comes in? That's idiotic.
I don't see that as being necessarily true. There are obviously plenty of poster cases already to point to to get people to care about it. Military style police equipment is expensive, those who don't care about innocent people being torn to shreds by police might care that it was their tax dollars being used to do it.
From my perspective, we could be at the point where a straw could break the camel's back, where one viral video of a "legal" home invasion and manslaughter could start the process.
I'm not saying I think that's about to happen. In fact, I really doubt it. Just you state it like a certainty. People are rarely good at predicting when revolutions are going to happen or are not going to happen.
Personally, I'm trying to remember which password I used on it.
Reminds me of an old joke: a man looks glum, his friend asks what's wrong.
The man says "I got a call from some guy, he said to stop sleeping with his wife or he'd kill me."
Friend "Oh, that's too bad."
Man: "The worst part is, he didn't say who his wife was."
First off, it takes multiple types of people to make any real breakthrough. Most of the scientific names we remember were either extrordinarily lucky or were only the part of the team that was most adept at PR. Edison had a stable of scientists working for him, some would say all he did was steal their creativity. Watson was half of the duo credited with discovering DNA, the other half did LSD, and there were multiple other people who may have deserved more credit than Watson anyway. We find the idea of one lone idiot savant appealing, but really the people who advance science the most are more often than not part of a team. And spatial ability doesn't seem to correlate with team player skills.
Second... okay, we might be able to identify the few lone wolf scientists better. What then? We tell them they're the next Tesla and encourage them to enter STEM, while someone who is not good at the Rubix cube, we tell them to go into finance? Perhaps colleges would have an incentive to include spatial ability on the SAT or ACT, but we're not exactly telling people they can't go to college if they can't picture a combustion engine in their heads.
I'm impressed with your trolling ability. Slashdot trolls have been doing little more than copy and paste these days. Trolling that's actually following the conversation, that's a rarity.
Trolls here would probably be better at their game if they went and got a good alignment at a licensed chiropractor, then used myclean PC on their windows phones which are infinitely superior to chromebooks.
According to Justice Minister Lord McNally, “It is tragic that Alan Turing was convicted of an offence which now seems both cruel and absurd, particularly given his outstanding contribution to the war effort,” he said. “However, the law at the time required a prosecution and, as such, long-standing policy has been to accept that such convictions took place and, rather than trying to alter the historical context and to put right what cannot be put right, ensure instead that we never again return to those times.”
Source. I guess it makes sense when you put it like that. Pardoning at best does nothing to change the people whose lives were ruined, justice is not done, it never can be. An acknowledgement that the country is capable of doing very bad things is probably better than patting ourselves on the back for fixing our grandparent's mistakes.
"Similar" is the key word here, GP didn't say "exactly the same." The scouts aren't chemically castrating, sure, but in a sense, they're doing worse. They're taking the ultimate action they can against gay people and kicking them out. There's no harsher action the boy scouts could take without breaking the law. The equivalent for the british government would be executing Turing or deporting him.
And there's also the fact that everyone was homophobic back then. Doesn't make it right for the British government, but it's at least a mitigating factor. The boy scouts on the other hand are ignoring everyone telling them to not be dicks about it. Bill gates is right: it's fucking 2013, this is unacceptable. The boy scouts are worse.
It is more falsifiable than evolution. "Micro" evolution can be demonstrated in a lab, so can the fact that carbon dioxide insulates heat, evolution and climate change are scaled up versions of that. More to the point, climate change itself is falsifiable. We're doing the experiment right now. If we had a few control earths, we could do the experiment proper and not worry about destroying the only one we have, but as we only have the one test tube to test the experiment, it strikes me as utterly fucking stupid to continue emitting carbon while pretending we don't know what is going to happen.
You are asking here rather than reading a wikipedia article why?
Still wrong. The point is that yahoo has just killed the one use for Tumblr. Yahoo shutting down their search engine would be less surprising to me. Admittedly, I haven't looked at numbers on that, maybe people still haven't heard of this "google" thing, and maybe a lot of people love sharing cat photos on tumblr.
The censorship thing isn't important. There are one or two other websites on the internet where you can get porn.
It's a little obnoxious for you to be saying that given the amount of denial that is still going on with carbon emissions and evolution. I mean "We can't let science speak" is the motto for the republican party. This time the science backs up the pro-buisiness side, and you're acting as if the greens are trying to censor it? For god's sake, it's on slashdot: it must have been in the news three weeks ago!
I'd hope that Washington would be smart enough not to make martyrs of them like that. NOT because I disagree with opposing drones, just because if the government is so stupid as to make that mistake, we're fucked.