Your quote is meaningless. How did they acocunt for them? 80% of what men make? so you're saying is that for job x, that a man is making 50k a year for, a woman would be making 40k. Like i said.. LAWSUIT. Yes i'm sure it happens. but it is not as widespread as you imply.
They earn less money than men for the same job positions
Really? well then they should start suing. They could make a lot more than the men do. In fact this is a false statement, because of what i just said. The stat everyone seems to use, which is women earn like 75% of what do is based on teh average of what women make and the average of what men make. Well, women have a higher tendency to take non careerish jobs so they can still be a mom. Thus they make less opposed to the average man which has a career.
get treated like sex objects Again, time to sue.
People expect them to be pretty and dumb Who's dumber, the woman who just shows up to work and does nothing or the employer that hired her and continues to pay her?
The status quo is unacceptable, Says who? I don't give a hoot if women want to be stay-at-home moms and the only jobs they have are less paying and less demandign than the average man's job. Another thing, when are people going to realize that women and men ARE different.
you know e-machines seem to get a bad rep.. I don't understand why exactly. Mine has been solid as a rock. And the support when i first got it was pretty good too. No regrets in buying it.
Well 1 of mine was inaccurate. I should of said something like a lot of media commentary, which tends to be mostly critcal of things as opposed to suggesting ideas.
In respnse to your other point, so what? You still havent' answer why they should take stance. There's no reason for them too. Ever seen jibjab? www.jibjab.com is quite funny, because it points out faults of both candidates. It makes it more enjoyable when you feel you are not trying to be convinced of some stance.
pr(MARKETING) staff for stuff like that is scary/useless enough.
SO you'd like an all volunteer military that had no one advertising the benefits of joining the military? Come on, reality check. Military is needed. Our military is quite small, we need people to serve. You think people join because they play a game? I think you underestimate people, i think people, even the dumber one, will realize that this is a very big choice and that it's not like it is in the movies. does the media help? yes, it gets more people to consider joining the military. It does not make the choice for them. Like the advertising.
if your (professional) army needs that kind of marketing to get people in.. well.. there's something wrong already then and the answer is not to confuse people into joining,
wow yes there's something wrong witht he msot powerful army in the world and the way they get recruits.. only on/. i guess. Again i tihink you underestimate people.
In other words, they're afraid of taking a position and standing by it. Since they make fun of EVERYONE, nobody can accuse them of having a liberal/conservative bias, because nobody can figure out what exactly they stand for. The only message that comes through is "everybody is wrong, don't trust anyone".
This is insightful? this is what almost all media does for 1. 2 WHy should they take a stance? 3. It's wrong to make fun of things?
he said the only real winners are the gamers. While its' true the gamers are getting great games and maybe arguably for dirt cheap prices, nintendo and sony are also getting rich off gamers.
I've no doubt that there were a few more agendas floating around at the time, but the international world looked on aghast at the posturing that seemed to surround a stringy bit of jizz.
There's always more agendas, i don't care what the world thinks, if they want, as so many people in the US do, to look at things as being so straight forward, fine and dandy. THeir problem not mine.
Exsqueeze me? Belief implies faith, faith implies following; simply waving a hand and saying you're a bhuddist doesn't make you one, likewise it's fairly untrendy to claim that Billy Graham rocks your world. In terms of literal translation you can't get more fundamental than fundamental christians.
Alright yoda.. jking jking.
Very few. Do you follow the rules because they're a good idea, the vatican says they're a good idea, or you believe that God wants you to do things this way?
I'll take the first and the last. And generally what the vatican says, i aggree with. However, not everything. Personally, i odn't think god cares that much about the particulars of what we do, but rather that we are good hearted and well intended.
There are a number of loathsome practices described in the Old testament that are savagery incarnate, but people don't write those off as 'God having a bad day', they just ignore it. Or would you sidestep the whole 'idols' issue as 'false gods', because it's neater for interpretation?
Personally, I don't care much for the old testament, because of what you say, but I still maintain that most of what it says is just to use common sense. Even if it is rather barbariac at times.
The thing is I personally don't have a problem with people believing in Big Brother, God, a giant spider, Satan, the clitoris or Jesus the astronaut until they start killing people because of it. Then it becomes something bad. I'm hoping you can agree with a heathen on that last point.
Yes, religion has always and probably will always, it certainly is currently (osama and co), be used for things that go directly against what it preaches. It preaches tolerance and accepting, not being oppressive and brutal as many have used it.
That's the nature of propoganda; hopefully it provokes people into asking questions to find out how one-sided that it was
I don't mind people being biased(to the left left or whatever), I read/. afterall, i mind people lying and decieving, intentionally. Hence my dislike of bill clinton. Moore is basing all of his reasonings on some half-truths and some fiction. And he knows it, and he still uses it. Moore's take on all of this was that if you're going to have Fox and the rest be manipulated into producing war correspondance that carefully avoided any mention of civilian casualties (being, as they are, one of the enshrined principles of the geneva convention; avoidance of non-combatants), in favour of a blitzkrieg engagement that minimises coalition casualties and exposure to urban fighting, you'd better be prepared to do some tapdancing afterwards.
I don't know how many times i've heard the term 'collateral damage', while watching the news about iraq.
Oh, that's a given; on the positive side he has given your economy a boost, but at the cost of destabilising a region known for it's volitility.
We'll see. In 10 years, things will be different, if we can put a real democracy in iraq. Ever thought about what oculd happen, if a democracy in iraq was a for real thing, and people.. liked it? Imagine htat iraq becomes a prosperous nation, that could influence the rest of the middle east quite heavily.
But it did pick holes in everything that was said publically by the administration, especially regarding the 'weapons of mass destruction' that the 'knew' in a SCO-esque feat of mesmerisation that existed, despite the people _actually_ on the ground saying that they weren't there. Wow, we've drifted quite a way.
Amusing that Clinton was threatened with impeachment for spooging an intern. Particularly a chubby one.
That is NOT why he was threatened. Now you can argue that he shouldn't of been in trouble for what he did do.
They do. I can go get the figures if necessary, but the 'Born again' flavour of christianity tends to selectively promote a single gospel as 'truth' without talking about allegory or metaphor.
I said take it literally, not that people follow a religion. I am catholic, for instance, but how many of all the christans, do you suppose, actually believe and follow the rules? Such is no pre-martial sex, i'd wager most of the married couples in my parish messed around l0ong beofre they tied the knot.
Given that marriage is generally a contract of monogomy, the constant tirade against 'gay marriage' is almost amusing until you figure that the opposition is basing their argument on what the bible says. Why the hell shouldn't people want to make a committment to one another
I, for one, am fine with gay marriage. However, i think the problem is that it is called marriage, and marriage is (atleast for catholics) a sacrement, and it's itended for 1 male and 1 female. Personally, i think the government should rename what marriage is called within the government and allow consenting adults to do whatever they want.
No, they recognise the flaws, point them out and get branded as 'anti-american'. If you want to hear about Britain's problems, I could go into great detail, but it would probably bore you.
There is a difference between the type of people who will point out bad things and good things about america or any country. THe type of people i'm talking about, are like michael moore's movie Farenheit(sp?) 9/11. That movie took everything it could out of context and was entirely one sided. It's only use is to get people ot believe that bush is the worst thing that's ever happened to the US. It does not server to educate people or anythign else than his motives(which i personally believe are purly monitary, but for the sake of argument I'll say get bush out), plus he uses things that ar emade up and implies all sorts of BS. This type of thing does NO good IMO.
As much as I am a fan of space in general, I think contraception was probably bigger, as it meant that we could control our own population; medical science in general has reduced our lability to environmental pressures and increased lifespan. Walking on the moon may well have been the defining moment for a generation, though.
You think that, i doubt many people really agree with you. I think it's hardly different from any other medicine we've discovered/invented. While maybe the advent of medicine in general is bigger than walking on the moon.
For a generation? I think it's something a bit bigger than that, i think it says that the US, when it wants to, can do whatever it wants and can succeed where others have failed, or failed to try even.
Except people are already forgetting it, and the vast majority follow a book of myths and legends called the 'Bible' that was cobbled together roughly two thousand years ago.
First off i don't think as many people follow the bible as literally as you imply. If you actually read the bible without trying to interpret it in whatever proganda type way you want, a lot of the stories simply say to use common sense. Yes there are whackos that do all sorts of shit because they think the bible says to, and there are some weird rules in religion that are probably worthless, because of hte bible.
Do you even want to speculate on the fine people that think it was all staged in California?
Well i think this explains a lot.. fine people? please.. they use a bunch of bunch of logic to conclude things that cannot be concluded with their logic/evidence and in all cases i've seen, their ocnclusions can be easily explained anyhow. People just want to believe america is teh worst country on earth and that our government is full of shit.
But I have gotten *no utility whatsoever* out of most of our military spending. Neither has the rest of the world, and--to the extent that they have--it'd be possible to provide more benefit for cheaper using some other method.
what bullshit, the computer you're at right now? where do you think a large part of that came from? GPS? Do you realize how much of the military technology ends up in our hands to benefit us? yes it takes awhile, but it definitaly happens. I know it's the greatest ideal that no good comes from wars, but that is also bullshit. I am not saying that i wish for wars or anything, i wish they were never necessary.
I'm not saying that the US should eliminate its military--shit happens, and it's good to have a fighter jet or three in the neighborhood when shit starts to happen. But our current military capability grossly exceeds our need for defense--we'd be secure from invasion with half the budget we have now.
well we had enough of a military to stop 9/11 didn't we? Yes let's cut spending on stuff that helps saves people's lives, sounds like a great idea. Yes we spend a lot on the military? why because it saves lives. Look at the techinology we used in iraq, how precise we were. There was a lot of colateral(spelling?) damage, but try and compare the amount we had ot the amount we would of had, had we used traditional weapons.
Even is we had your scenario where the military was cut and there was all of a sudden this large reserve of cash we had, where would it go? whoknows, when stuff like that happens, a ton of the money gets lost of the shuffle.
May i recremend a TI calculator. I have dropped my TI-86 onto the floor off ofa desk countless times, and the floor being carpeted cemeter or tiles. I also have dropped it off my raised bed, about 5.5' in the air onto carpeted cement and it still worked flawlessly. I love my calculator. And btw, there's software you can download that can turn it into whatever you want, so Ti+$20 link cable = awesomeness IMO anyhow.
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Your quote is meaningless. How did they acocunt for them? 80% of what men make? so you're saying is that for job x, that a man is making 50k a year for, a woman would be making 40k. Like i said.. LAWSUIT. Yes i'm sure it happens. but it is not as widespread as you imply.
They earn less money than men for the same job positions
Really? well then they should start suing. They could make a lot more than the men do. In fact this is a false statement, because of what i just said. The stat everyone seems to use, which is women earn like 75% of what do is based on teh average of what women make and the average of what men make. Well, women have a higher tendency to take non careerish jobs so they can still be a mom. Thus they make less opposed to the average man which has a career.
get treated like sex objects
Again, time to sue.
People expect them to be pretty and dumb
Who's dumber, the woman who just shows up to work and does nothing or the employer that hired her and continues to pay her?
The status quo is unacceptable,
Says who? I don't give a hoot if women want to be stay-at-home moms and the only jobs they have are less paying and less demandign than the average man's job. Another thing, when are people going to realize that women and men ARE different.
that bloody song is played nonstop in every friggin cs server. They seem to have a slightly different version tho.
I like his 'work' but when i read that post i thought immediatly of maddox.
degrade the quality of service for games already released on Steam (HL series of games).
Phew i can download codename gordon.
you know e-machines seem to get a bad rep.. I don't understand why exactly. Mine has been solid as a rock. And the support when i first got it was pretty good too. No regrets in buying it.
what are you a Maddox wannabe?
Well 1 of mine was inaccurate. I should of said something like a lot of media commentary, which tends to be mostly critcal of things as opposed to suggesting ideas.
In respnse to your other point, so what? You still havent' answer why they should take stance. There's no reason for them too. Ever seen jibjab? www.jibjab.com is quite funny, because it points out faults of both candidates. It makes it more enjoyable when you feel you are not trying to be convinced of some stance.
pr(MARKETING) staff for stuff like that is scary/useless enough.
/. i guess. Again i tihink you underestimate people.
SO you'd like an all volunteer military that had no one advertising the benefits of joining the military? Come on, reality check. Military is needed. Our military is quite small, we need people to serve. You think people join because they play a game? I think you underestimate people, i think people, even the dumber one, will realize that this is a very big choice and that it's not like it is in the movies. does the media help? yes, it gets more people to consider joining the military. It does not make the choice for them. Like the advertising.
if your (professional) army needs that kind of marketing to get people in.. well.. there's something wrong already then and the answer is not to confuse people into joining,
wow yes there's something wrong witht he msot powerful army in the world and the way they get recruits.. only on
In other words, they're afraid of taking a position and standing by it. Since they make fun of EVERYONE, nobody can accuse them of having a liberal/conservative bias, because nobody can figure out what exactly they stand for. The only message that comes through is "everybody is wrong, don't trust anyone".
This is insightful? this is what almost all media does for 1. 2 WHy should they take a stance? 3. It's wrong to make fun of things?
Come on.
I say bring back Wesley.
he said the only real winners are the gamers. While its' true the gamers are getting great games and maybe arguably for dirt cheap prices, nintendo and sony are also getting rich off gamers.
"It looks like you're using the same old tired joke. Would you"
* STFU
* Learn to be Original
* Stop Karma Whoring
Well atleast it's not the ??? profit thing
in Console wars, the only real winners are the Gamers
yes because nintendo and sony made no money...
yes i'm a troll for pointing this out. talk about being biased.
this is /., don't expect unbiased articles that represent both sides.
I've no doubt that there were a few more agendas floating around at the time, but the international world looked on aghast at the posturing that seemed to surround a stringy bit of jizz.
/. afterall, i mind people lying and decieving, intentionally. Hence my dislike of bill clinton. Moore is basing all of his reasonings on some half-truths and some fiction. And he knows it, and he still uses it.
There's always more agendas, i don't care what the world thinks, if they want, as so many people in the US do, to look at things as being so straight forward, fine and dandy. THeir problem not mine.
Exsqueeze me? Belief implies faith, faith implies following; simply waving a hand and saying you're a bhuddist doesn't make you one, likewise it's fairly untrendy to claim that Billy Graham rocks your world. In terms of literal translation you can't get more fundamental than fundamental christians.
Alright yoda.. jking jking.
Very few. Do you follow the rules because they're a good idea, the vatican says they're a good idea, or you believe that God wants you to do things this way?
I'll take the first and the last. And generally what the vatican says, i aggree with. However, not everything. Personally, i odn't think god cares that much about the particulars of what we do, but rather that we are good hearted and well intended.
There are a number of loathsome practices described in the Old testament that are savagery incarnate, but people don't write those off as 'God having a bad day', they just ignore it. Or would you sidestep the whole 'idols' issue as 'false gods', because it's neater for interpretation?
Personally, I don't care much for the old testament, because of what you say, but I still maintain that most of what it says is just to use common sense. Even if it is rather barbariac at times.
The thing is I personally don't have a problem with people believing in Big Brother, God, a giant spider, Satan, the clitoris or Jesus the astronaut until they start killing people because of it. Then it becomes something bad. I'm hoping you can agree with a heathen on that last point.
Yes, religion has always and probably will always, it certainly is currently (osama and co), be used for things that go directly against what it preaches. It preaches tolerance and accepting, not being oppressive and brutal as many have used it.
That's the nature of propoganda; hopefully it provokes people into asking questions to find out how one-sided that it was
I don't mind people being biased(to the left left or whatever), I read
Moore's take on all of this was that if you're going to have Fox and the rest be manipulated into producing war correspondance that carefully avoided any mention of civilian casualties (being, as they are, one of the enshrined principles of the geneva convention; avoidance of non-combatants), in favour of a blitzkrieg engagement that minimises coalition casualties and exposure to urban fighting, you'd better be prepared to do some tapdancing afterwards.
I don't know how many times i've heard the term 'collateral damage', while watching the news about iraq.
Oh, that's a given; on the positive side he has given your economy a boost, but at the cost of destabilising a region known for it's volitility.
We'll see. In 10 years, things will be different, if we can put a real democracy in iraq. Ever thought about what oculd happen, if a democracy in iraq was a for real thing, and people.. liked it? Imagine htat iraq becomes a prosperous nation, that could influence the rest of the middle east quite heavily.
But it did pick holes in everything that was said publically by the administration, especially regarding the 'weapons of mass destruction' that the 'knew' in a SCO-esque feat of mesmerisation that existed, despite the people _actually_ on the ground saying that they weren't there. Wow, we've drifted quite a way.
That is NOT why he was threatened. Now you can argue that he shouldn't of been in trouble for what he did do.
I said take it literally, not that people follow a religion. I am catholic, for instance, but how many of all the christans, do you suppose, actually believe and follow the rules? Such is no pre-martial sex, i'd wager most of the married couples in my parish messed around l0ong beofre they tied the knot.
I, for one, am fine with gay marriage. However, i think the problem is that it is called marriage, and marriage is (atleast for catholics) a sacrement, and it's itended for 1 male and 1 female. Personally, i think the government should rename what marriage is called within the government and allow consenting adults to do whatever they want.
There is a difference between the type of people who will point out bad things and good things about america or any country. THe type of people i'm talking about, are like michael moore's movie Farenheit(sp?) 9/11. That movie took everything it could out of context and was entirely one sided. It's only use is to get people ot believe that bush is the worst thing that's ever happened to the US. It does not server to educate people or anythign else than his motives(which i personally believe are purly monitary, but for the sake of argument I'll say get bush out), plus he uses things that ar emade up and implies all sorts of BS. This type of thing does NO good IMO.
he's modded interesting and it's my detector? apparently not only mine then.
You think that, i doubt many people really agree with you. I think it's hardly different from any other medicine we've discovered/invented. While maybe the advent of medicine in general is bigger than walking on the moon.
For a generation? I think it's something a bit bigger than that, i think it says that the US, when it wants to, can do whatever it wants and can succeed where others have failed, or failed to try even.
First off i don't think as many people follow the bible as literally as you imply. If you actually read the bible without trying to interpret it in whatever proganda type way you want, a lot of the stories simply say to use common sense. Yes there are whackos that do all sorts of shit because they think the bible says to, and there are some weird rules in religion that are probably worthless, because of hte bible.
Well i think this explains a lot.. fine people? please.. they use a bunch of bunch of logic to conclude things that cannot be concluded with their logic/evidence and in all cases i've seen, their ocnclusions can be easily explained anyhow. People just want to believe america is teh worst country on earth and that our government is full of shit.
what bullshit, the computer you're at right now? where do you think a large part of that came from? GPS? Do you realize how much of the military technology ends up in our hands to benefit us? yes it takes awhile, but it definitaly happens. I know it's the greatest ideal that no good comes from wars, but that is also bullshit. I am not saying that i wish for wars or anything, i wish they were never necessary.
well we had enough of a military to stop 9/11 didn't we? Yes let's cut spending on stuff that helps saves people's lives, sounds like a great idea. Yes we spend a lot on the military? why because it saves lives. Look at the techinology we used in iraq, how precise we were. There was a lot of colateral(spelling?) damage, but try and compare the amount we had ot the amount we would of had, had we used traditional weapons.
Even is we had your scenario where the military was cut and there was all of a sudden this large reserve of cash we had, where would it go? whoknows, when stuff like that happens, a ton of the money gets lost of the shuffle.
May i recremend a TI calculator. I have dropped my TI-86 onto the floor off ofa desk countless times, and the floor being carpeted cemeter or tiles. I also have dropped it off my raised bed, about 5.5' in the air onto carpeted cement and it still worked flawlessly. I love my calculator. And btw, there's software you can download that can turn it into whatever you want, so Ti+$20 link cable = awesomeness IMO anyhow.
You're right. My bad.
just ascii goatse, nothing terribly bad.
gah beat me to it. Damn you.