Personally, I'm interested in hybrids but not for fuel efficiency reasons. I'd like to see auto makers combine the output from different energy sources into all-wheel acceleration of a normal car. I remember seeing something on the news a few years ago about Ford experimenting with that on an Explorer, trying to jazz up the acceleration of a bigger vehicle. I don't know what became of that testing, if anything. But it would be extremely cool to see that technology in a small, sporty car.
Mitsubishi's concept for the new Eclipse actually has just such a system. It's got a standard 6 cylinder engine driving the front wheels, and in the rear I believe it actually has two electric motors which only come in to play during hard acceleration.
Yup, as a matter of fact, I bought my copy of Quake 3 just so that I could have some good games to play while I was running Linux on my only machine at the time. That and it also came in that cool tin that was a limited time thing with the Windows release.
The ironic thing about it though was that I never did get the game to run under Linux. I was having some really weird driver issues related (I think) to the fact that I had a dual video card system, but was only using one of the video cards. Anyway, I just ended up booting back into Windows to play the game. However, since the Linux version of the game was actually cheaper than the Windows version, a lot of my friends went out and bought the Linux version, despite running Windows on their primary box. I still get a chuckle out of that...
Certian buyers take almost a fricking week to pay,
Give them a frickin break. I refuse to use Paypal due to some shady maneuvers they pulled on an acquaintance of mine several years ago. The details of which I won't go into. As such I will only deal with sellers who allow money order transactions. Unfortunately, due to only having a 30 minute lunch break, that means that I do not have time to both eat and make it to the post office, so I can only go to the post office during the 2 hour window for which they are open on Saturday. I do make sure to communicate that to anybody I buy stuff from, but my point is that different people have different circumstances so they may only have one day in a week in which they can send payment. So... give them a frickin break.
Actually, your mention of major computer manufacturers brings up another good point. Could we see more AMD acceptance in the business world if Dell decided to start shipping comptuers with AMD processors? Dell was the number 1 PC manufacturer for a long time, and it was quite a while after the HP/Compaq (number 2 and number 3)merger before they finally eclipsed Dell in sales. Which brings me to my point that these days I tend to see mostly Dell in the business. Whenever I come across Compaqs they are generally a good bit older. And I almost never see HPs in the business sector. Which makes me think that HP/Compaqs inroads to becoming number one had a lot to do with the fact that they sell a lot to home users through BestBuy. My point finally being, that if Dell, the second largest PC manufacturer, and one of the largest in the business sector, were to start shipping PCs with AMD processors, then maybe AMD would finally be able to make some inroads to business PCs.
Intel is beginning to realize this, but this does not change the fact that there are many people that will still choose Intel over AMD just based on name alone. I run into these types on a regular basis.
It's like the old saying goes. "Nobody ever got fired for buying Intel." Personally, I feel the same way. I'd rather cover my ass and buy Intel all the time instead of AMD. Also, I haven't yet seen much data regarding AMD's performance/reliability in the business desktop arena. I haven't seen anything like that for Intel either, but that really doesn't matter. Intel is the standard and before a move to AMD can be considered, it has to be shown to be better than the standard.
It all depends on what your uses for disk storage are. Where I work, most of our applications are terminal emulation, thin clients, and web based clients; all applications that require very little local storage. On our file server we are only using 28.4 GB out of ~100GB, and more than half of that is from IS use as it makes it much more convenient to install software if you don't have to constantly swap discs around.
You're telling me. I refuse to use automatic updating here simply because it has in the past broken some of our internal applications. I had read about this vulnerability a couple of weeks ago and had even downloaded the patch before the worm broke out in preparation for the coming shit storm. But I unfortunately still had to wait until I was given the all clear to install the patch. That happened late last week, with me planning to install the patch during users' lunch breaks over the course of this week......Until I came in to work on Monday and saw that about half of our Windows 2000 machines were restarting at semi-regular intervals as they were being attacked by the worm. Since then I spent all yesterday and most of the morning today installing the damn patch on each of my 200+ machines.
Interesting how this could be reapplied to the car modifyers with little change:
1) will modding my Civic make my car fast, mor capable, or "better" in any way? 2) will it get me all the hot Honda groupie chicks? 3) if I cared about esthetics so much, wouldn't it have been more cost-effective to buy a Ferrari? 4) can my quasi-artistic needs be channeled into better projects? 5) will other people think about me the same as they do when they see a guy using a computer with a huge window and neon lights? 6) is modding my Civic really just a desparate cry for attention? 7) ??? 8) profit!
Of course in this case the profit step belongs to the repair shops becuase step 7 is "wreck my car because I'm driving like a jackass, trying to show off for the skank in the passenger seat."
Man. After reading your post about your credit card, I'm beginning to think that now that I have a job, pay bills, etc., it may finally be time for me to get a new credit card.
Currently I have one of those cards that seem to be typically marked to studens/higher risk customers where finance charges are calculated some funky way where they are calcualted on the average balance over a 2 month period or something like that. What it meant to me was the one time I made a mistake paying my bill, I was raped. I had a $1,000+ bill which I paid online. Except I was drunk and in a hurry to leave since it was my birthday and I was going out. I accidentally paid.03 cents short (typing mistake,.45 instead of.48) and was charged a total of ~$15 over the next two months. Talk about highway robbery.
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Well, if you've ever done any autocross racing, you tend to gather a lot of experience when you first start out. I can definitely attest to the fact that cones don't hurt too much when you hit them at speed. They may leave a little mark, but not much of one.
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I remember once stealing a cone on the freeway with a cop car on the other side of ours. I didn't even know he was there until after I had closed the door and was looking around, cone in my lap. Thankfully he didn't see me.
I think our best "drunken acquisition" however was a car door we found lying on the street outside a bar we used to frequent. The reaction on our fourth roommate's face when he came home the next afternoon was priceless. As were the reactions of most people when they came over to our apartment and saw a dented white car door from a late 80's Ford Crown Victoria, complete with window and mirror attached, lying in the middle of our living room floor. Talk about an ice breaker.
Maybe they're just driving around, obeying traffic signals, listening to the radio, watching the sunset...
One of my friends had a PS2 waaay before I did. When we finally got her to buy GTA3 she was doing exactly that in the game. Stopping at stop lights, changing radio stations, etc. The rest of us finally had to yell at her "What are you doing!? You just stole this car, so why aren't you driving it like you did?"
Hell, she was paying more attention to traffic laws in the game than she does in real life.
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Really, most of the dependability issues stemmed from people not properly maintaing the car. People tried to treat the car as a standard piston engine car, never checking the oil (the car does burn some oil as lubrication for the combustion chambers), using the cheapest damn gasoline they could find, and most commonly, not paying attention to the cooling; you overheat the engine once, and it's probably dead due to how thin the water jacket is on the engine. The rotary engine just needs a little more attention than standard piston engines, and most people didn't understand that.
The engine can be reliable, however with the right care.
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"The question from the orginal conversation was "has anyone used a wenkel rotary (it has a low weight to power ratio) in a plane?" Why/Whynot . .."
Actually, yes. I know a few people who specialize in rotary engines -- building them, modifying them, tuning them, etc. Anyway one day one of hem was talking about this mailing list that he's on that consists of people using rotary engines in homebuilt airplanes. Unfortunately, I don't have any links as this was entirely a word of mouth discussion at the shop. I also don't think the engine has been used in any commercial planes. It was, however, interesting to hear about some of the things the airplane people did differently to make the engine more reliable.
I certainly understand that sentiment. I remember this time when I was probably 8 or 9, so probably 1989 - 1990, when I was at this hobby shop with my mom. I saw a sign that said Baseball cards, D&D, etc. downstairs in the basement. I asked my mom if we could go down there and she emphatically said no because D&D players were satan worshipers and there's no telling what they might do to us down there.
It was becuase of that sentiment that years later, when some friends talked me into playing D&D with them, I had to be extra careful to hide my character sheets from my parents. I never bought any books or any dice either. Although part of that probably had to do with me not being able to play much becuase of a crazy work schedule, and me not being able to really get into it and lose myself like the other players. After a while I decided that D&D wasn't for me and moved on...
But I never forgot just how ridiculous it seemed that these friends of mine could in any way be construed to worship satan simply because they played a game.
That reminds me of when I took my Calc. 3 final in College. Throughout the entire school year our professor had allowed us to use calculators on our exams while none of the other professors did the same. It wasn't much of a problem though since the exams weren't standardized throughout the department... except for the final exam. We were informed that just like the previous exams we would be allowed one notecard for formulas and our calculators. Well, since we'd been using our calculators all year I had put most of the formulas into my calculator in not form within a program and had even written several programs for some of the more common formulas, so I didn't even write down many formulas on my notecard.
When we got into the final we found that 1)We were allowed an entire 8.5x11 sheet of paper for formulas and 2)we were *not* allowed calculators. Needless to say, I felt royaly screwed. Not screwed so much becuase I didn't know how to do the work by hand, but screwed becuase I had chosen to put most of my notes/formulas in my calculator instead of writing them down. Although I did think it a little unfair that through the entire class we were allowed to rely on our calculators and were told that we'd be able to do so again for the final, when in fact we were not. I really hated that professor...
This doesn't surprise me in the least. A while back at my office, once we finally bought all new comptuers and were standardized on pretty much one system and one grouping of software packages for each department, we decided to implement a policy of not moving computers when the management decided to move people around.
You wouldn't believe the complaining that I get now when I have to move people. The only difference between the computers is that one is ComputerXX and the other is ComputerYY. But, people still feel the need to complain, so what are you going to do?
Whoops. I guess I should have mentioned that it's a 1986 Corolla GTS. I haven't yet finished looking around on the web, but I would imagine it would be even less power for the 4AGE. No matter, I have a pretty-close-to-free T25 from an SR20, so that's what I'll use for the first install and we'll just see what we can get after tuning it. Heck, 4AGE's are cheap enough that I can probably afford to just keep cranking up the boost until I blow this engine.:-D That will give me a good idea of what the engine should be able to handl. The car will be primarily used for autocross anyway, so huge power numbers aren't as important as good handling anyway.
That said, I forgot to mention that it was refreshing to see somebody actually interested in the MR Spyder. Too many people just discount the car due to its having less horespower than the previous generation.
2200lbs is a good weight IMHO. That's what I'm shooting for with my Corolla when all's said and done. I haven't decided on a target for HP yet though. Probably I'll just take whatever I can get after installing a turbo, and maybe that will be enough. But the handling is where it's at. Light weight and good handling are always a good combination for a sports car in my book.
It's not so much a problem of the top speed attainable. It's a problem of how long it takes to get there. 130hp isn't going to move that car up to 120 very quickly. Certainly not quick enough to be considered a very good sports car. I'd also like to mention that 2700lb is less than ideal for a sports car, but these days most of the "sport cars" produced weigh even more than that, so the weight really isn't that bad by comparison. Still, that's not exactly an ideal power to weight ratio.
Well, I probably am replying too late for anybody to care, but here goes anyway...
What I don't understand is how all these people can claim that 1GB is enough space that you'll never have to delete your mail. For a comparison, the last time I looked, my boss's Outlook personal folder is approximately 1.2GB in size. That's in addition to her quota on the mail servers. (I don't know what that is as the exchange servers are administered by corporate.) I think mine is approximately 150MB and that's only about 3.5 months worth of email. Basically, I'll concede any day that 1GB is a lot of space, but it's certainly not enough for a lifetime.
The large number of passwords with different rules is is a problem where I work as well. It's even to the point that it has become a problem for me, and that's saying a lot since I hardly ever forgot a password for something, but these days... Even our own internal applications require so many different user names and passwords that I have a hard time remembering even those. And then we have a whole other set of applications provided by outside companies, one of which requires that I have 9 different passwords for they system in order to access 9 different areas, further compounded by the fact that you cannot have duplicate usernames across the entire system, meaning that I have to remember 9 different user names and passwords just to access everything I need to access. I've actually had to start noting my usernames and passwords, something I've never done before. (Although it is stored in a text file in an encrypted directory, so it's a little more secure than writing them on a piece of paper on my desk.)
That said, a little bit of user training, coaching, and reprimanding can easily solve the problem with user leaving their passwords on their desk. Where I work, it can be a pretty big deal for a user if they leave their desk and don't put away their password list and manually lock their workstation. You just have to make sure that there are consequences to not following the rules.
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Personally, I'm interested in hybrids but not for fuel efficiency reasons. I'd like to see auto makers combine the output from different energy sources into all-wheel acceleration of a normal car. I remember seeing something on the news a few years ago about Ford experimenting with that on an Explorer, trying to jazz up the acceleration of a bigger vehicle. I don't know what became of that testing, if anything. But it would be extremely cool to see that technology in a small, sporty car.
Mitsubishi's concept for the new Eclipse actually has just such a system. It's got a standard 6 cylinder engine driving the front wheels, and in the rear I believe it actually has two electric motors which only come in to play during hard acceleration.
Yup, as a matter of fact, I bought my copy of Quake 3 just so that I could have some good games to play while I was running Linux on my only machine at the time. That and it also came in that cool tin that was a limited time thing with the Windows release.
The ironic thing about it though was that I never did get the game to run under Linux. I was having some really weird driver issues related (I think) to the fact that I had a dual video card system, but was only using one of the video cards. Anyway, I just ended up booting back into Windows to play the game. However, since the Linux version of the game was actually cheaper than the Windows version, a lot of my friends went out and bought the Linux version, despite running Windows on their primary box. I still get a chuckle out of that...
Certian buyers take almost a fricking week to pay,
Give them a frickin break. I refuse to use Paypal due to some shady maneuvers they pulled on an acquaintance of mine several years ago. The details of which I won't go into. As such I will only deal with sellers who allow money order transactions. Unfortunately, due to only having a 30 minute lunch break, that means that I do not have time to both eat and make it to the post office, so I can only go to the post office during the 2 hour window for which they are open on Saturday. I do make sure to communicate that to anybody I buy stuff from, but my point is that different people have different circumstances so they may only have one day in a week in which they can send payment. So... give them a frickin break.
Actually, your mention of major computer manufacturers brings up another good point. Could we see more AMD acceptance in the business world if Dell decided to start shipping comptuers with AMD processors? Dell was the number 1 PC manufacturer for a long time, and it was quite a while after the HP/Compaq (number 2 and number 3)merger before they finally eclipsed Dell in sales. Which brings me to my point that these days I tend to see mostly Dell in the business. Whenever I come across Compaqs they are generally a good bit older. And I almost never see HPs in the business sector. Which makes me think that HP/Compaqs inroads to becoming number one had a lot to do with the fact that they sell a lot to home users through BestBuy. My point finally being, that if Dell, the second largest PC manufacturer, and one of the largest in the business sector, were to start shipping PCs with AMD processors, then maybe AMD would finally be able to make some inroads to business PCs.
Intel is beginning to realize this, but this does not change the fact that there are many people that will still choose Intel over AMD just based on name alone. I run into these types on a regular basis.
It's like the old saying goes. "Nobody ever got fired for buying Intel." Personally, I feel the same way. I'd rather cover my ass and buy Intel all the time instead of AMD. Also, I haven't yet seen much data regarding AMD's performance/reliability in the business desktop arena. I haven't seen anything like that for Intel either, but that really doesn't matter. Intel is the standard and before a move to AMD can be considered, it has to be shown to be better than the standard.
See, that was good up until the last part. Then it just looks like you're shouting "koon" instead of "kahn." :-P
Now I'm getting visions of a bad B-Movie Horror flick about rabid killer racoons. I think I should go take my medicine now...
Just. Dont. Buy. It.
For some reason, when I read those "sentences" I heard them in my head as coming from Shatner's voice. I really can't understand why...
It all depends on what your uses for disk storage are. Where I work, most of our applications are terminal emulation, thin clients, and web based clients; all applications that require very little local storage. On our file server we are only using 28.4 GB out of ~100GB, and more than half of that is from IS use as it makes it much more convenient to install software if you don't have to constantly swap discs around.
You're telling me. I refuse to use automatic updating here simply because it has in the past broken some of our internal applications. I had read about this vulnerability a couple of weeks ago and had even downloaded the patch before the worm broke out in preparation for the coming shit storm. But I unfortunately still had to wait until I was given the all clear to install the patch. That happened late last week, with me planning to install the patch during users' lunch breaks over the course of this week... ...Until I came in to work on Monday and saw that about half of our Windows 2000 machines were restarting at semi-regular intervals as they were being attacked by the worm. Since then I spent all yesterday and most of the morning today installing the damn patch on each of my 200+ machines.
Interesting how this could be reapplied to the car modifyers with little change:
1) will modding my Civic make my car fast, mor capable, or "better" in any way?
2) will it get me all the hot Honda groupie chicks?
3) if I cared about esthetics so much, wouldn't it have been more cost-effective to buy a Ferrari?
4) can my quasi-artistic needs be channeled into better projects?
5) will other people think about me the same as they do when they see a guy using a computer with a huge window and neon lights?
6) is modding my Civic really just a desparate cry for attention?
7) ???
8) profit!
Of course in this case the profit step belongs to the repair shops becuase step 7 is "wreck my car because I'm driving like a jackass, trying to show off for the skank in the passenger seat."
Man. After reading your post about your credit card, I'm beginning to think that now that I have a job, pay bills, etc., it may finally be time for me to get a new credit card.
.03 cents short (typing mistake, .45 instead of .48) and was charged a total of ~$15 over the next two months. Talk about highway robbery.
Currently I have one of those cards that seem to be typically marked to studens/higher risk customers where finance charges are calculated some funky way where they are calcualted on the average balance over a 2 month period or something like that. What it meant to me was the one time I made a mistake paying my bill, I was raped. I had a $1,000+ bill which I paid online. Except I was drunk and in a hurry to leave since it was my birthday and I was going out. I accidentally paid
Well, if you've ever done any autocross racing, you tend to gather a lot of experience when you first start out. I can definitely attest to the fact that cones don't hurt too much when you hit them at speed. They may leave a little mark, but not much of one.
I remember once stealing a cone on the freeway with a cop car on the other side of ours. I didn't even know he was there until after I had closed the door and was looking around, cone in my lap. Thankfully he didn't see me.
I think our best "drunken acquisition" however was a car door we found lying on the street outside a bar we used to frequent. The reaction on our fourth roommate's face when he came home the next afternoon was priceless. As were the reactions of most people when they came over to our apartment and saw a dented white car door from a late 80's Ford Crown Victoria, complete with window and mirror attached, lying in the middle of our living room floor. Talk about an ice breaker.
Maybe they're just driving around, obeying traffic signals, listening to the radio, watching the sunset...
One of my friends had a PS2 waaay before I did. When we finally got her to buy GTA3 she was doing exactly that in the game. Stopping at stop lights, changing radio stations, etc. The rest of us finally had to yell at her "What are you doing!? You just stole this car, so why aren't you driving it like you did?"
Hell, she was paying more attention to traffic laws in the game than she does in real life.
Really, most of the dependability issues stemmed from people not properly maintaing the car. People tried to treat the car as a standard piston engine car, never checking the oil (the car does burn some oil as lubrication for the combustion chambers), using the cheapest damn gasoline they could find, and most commonly, not paying attention to the cooling; you overheat the engine once, and it's probably dead due to how thin the water jacket is on the engine. The rotary engine just needs a little more attention than standard piston engines, and most people didn't understand that.
The engine can be reliable, however with the right care.
"The question from the orginal conversation was "has anyone used a wenkel rotary (it has a low weight to power ratio) in a plane?" Why/Whynot . . ."
Actually, yes. I know a few people who specialize in rotary engines -- building them, modifying them, tuning them, etc. Anyway one day one of hem was talking about this mailing list that he's on that consists of people using rotary engines in homebuilt airplanes. Unfortunately, I don't have any links as this was entirely a word of mouth discussion at the shop. I also don't think the engine has been used in any commercial planes. It was, however, interesting to hear about some of the things the airplane people did differently to make the engine more reliable.
I certainly understand that sentiment. I remember this time when I was probably 8 or 9, so probably 1989 - 1990, when I was at this hobby shop with my mom. I saw a sign that said Baseball cards, D&D, etc. downstairs in the basement. I asked my mom if we could go down there and she emphatically said no because D&D players were satan worshipers and there's no telling what they might do to us down there.
It was becuase of that sentiment that years later, when some friends talked me into playing D&D with them, I had to be extra careful to hide my character sheets from my parents. I never bought any books or any dice either. Although part of that probably had to do with me not being able to play much becuase of a crazy work schedule, and me not being able to really get into it and lose myself like the other players. After a while I decided that D&D wasn't for me and moved on...
But I never forgot just how ridiculous it seemed that these friends of mine could in any way be construed to worship satan simply because they played a game.
That reminds me of when I took my Calc. 3 final in College. Throughout the entire school year our professor had allowed us to use calculators on our exams while none of the other professors did the same. It wasn't much of a problem though since the exams weren't standardized throughout the department... except for the final exam. We were informed that just like the previous exams we would be allowed one notecard for formulas and our calculators. Well, since we'd been using our calculators all year I had put most of the formulas into my calculator in not form within a program and had even written several programs for some of the more common formulas, so I didn't even write down many formulas on my notecard.
When we got into the final we found that 1)We were allowed an entire 8.5x11 sheet of paper for formulas and 2)we were *not* allowed calculators. Needless to say, I felt royaly screwed. Not screwed so much becuase I didn't know how to do the work by hand, but screwed becuase I had chosen to put most of my notes/formulas in my calculator instead of writing them down. Although I did think it a little unfair that through the entire class we were allowed to rely on our calculators and were told that we'd be able to do so again for the final, when in fact we were not. I really hated that professor...
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This doesn't surprise me in the least. A while back at my office, once we finally bought all new comptuers and were standardized on pretty much one system and one grouping of software packages for each department, we decided to implement a policy of not moving computers when the management decided to move people around.
You wouldn't believe the complaining that I get now when I have to move people. The only difference between the computers is that one is ComputerXX and the other is ComputerYY. But, people still feel the need to complain, so what are you going to do?
Whoops. I guess I should have mentioned that it's a 1986 Corolla GTS. I haven't yet finished looking around on the web, but I would imagine it would be even less power for the 4AGE. No matter, I have a pretty-close-to-free T25 from an SR20, so that's what I'll use for the first install and we'll just see what we can get after tuning it. Heck, 4AGE's are cheap enough that I can probably afford to just keep cranking up the boost until I blow this engine. :-D That will give me a good idea of what the engine should be able to handl. The car will be primarily used for autocross anyway, so huge power numbers aren't as important as good handling anyway.
That said, I forgot to mention that it was refreshing to see somebody actually interested in the MR Spyder. Too many people just discount the car due to its having less horespower than the previous generation.
2200lbs is a good weight IMHO. That's what I'm shooting for with my Corolla when all's said and done. I haven't decided on a target for HP yet though. Probably I'll just take whatever I can get after installing a turbo, and maybe that will be enough. But the handling is where it's at. Light weight and good handling are always a good combination for a sports car in my book.
It's not so much a problem of the top speed attainable. It's a problem of how long it takes to get there. 130hp isn't going to move that car up to 120 very quickly. Certainly not quick enough to be considered a very good sports car. I'd also like to mention that 2700lb is less than ideal for a sports car, but these days most of the "sport cars" produced weigh even more than that, so the weight really isn't that bad by comparison. Still, that's not exactly an ideal power to weight ratio.
Well, I probably am replying too late for anybody to care, but here goes anyway...
What I don't understand is how all these people can claim that 1GB is enough space that you'll never have to delete your mail. For a comparison, the last time I looked, my boss's Outlook personal folder is approximately 1.2GB in size. That's in addition to her quota on the mail servers. (I don't know what that is as the exchange servers are administered by corporate.) I think mine is approximately 150MB and that's only about 3.5 months worth of email. Basically, I'll concede any day that 1GB is a lot of space, but it's certainly not enough for a lifetime.
The large number of passwords with different rules is is a problem where I work as well. It's even to the point that it has become a problem for me, and that's saying a lot since I hardly ever forgot a password for something, but these days... Even our own internal applications require so many different user names and passwords that I have a hard time remembering even those. And then we have a whole other set of applications provided by outside companies, one of which requires that I have 9 different passwords for they system in order to access 9 different areas, further compounded by the fact that you cannot have duplicate usernames across the entire system, meaning that I have to remember 9 different user names and passwords just to access everything I need to access. I've actually had to start noting my usernames and passwords, something I've never done before. (Although it is stored in a text file in an encrypted directory, so it's a little more secure than writing them on a piece of paper on my desk.)
That said, a little bit of user training, coaching, and reprimanding can easily solve the problem with user leaving their passwords on their desk. Where I work, it can be a pretty big deal for a user if they leave their desk and don't put away their password list and manually lock their workstation. You just have to make sure that there are consequences to not following the rules.