People keep pointing to the issue that Spamhaus does not "do business" in Illinois as a reason that this lawsuit is bogus. Here in Iowa, my employer pays Spamhaus multi thousands of dollars a year to be provided zone transfers of the xbl and sbl. I'm sure there is someone in Illinois doing the same. Would this not be considered doing business in Illinois? With that said, I've been watching this story with intense interest as my job becomes much harder if something were to happen to Spamhaus suddenly.
ISP's already do this in a limited fashion (blocking port 25 and well known insecure ports). As far as blocking after the infraction? We tried that, however imagine having several hundred thousand customers, and 80% are infected with some sort of worm. Each customer contact takes an average of 45 minutes (yes, it does, if you want to keep a customer, you don't just shut them down and leave them flapping in the wind with no knowledge of how to get cleaned up).
I built and admin mail for around 100k users. Their is no f'ing way that you can run 13 million accounts on 10 machines. One webmail server for 13 million people?
I was seriously embarrassed when I had to buy some in Jersey City, NJ, and all the boxes were in spanish. I had to call my wife while pointing at diffrent boxes (that were behind the counter).
> Anyone who has ever tried to setup and configure > OpenLDAP knows that its not worth it and will > send you to a mental hospital fairly quickly.
I don't usually post on Slashdot as a good deal of the users are noobs and idiots, but I couldn't let this one slide.
Way to invalidate years of development on OpenLDAP . In my opinion, OpenLDAP is very easy to configure, and quite robust. I built an ISP with over 100k users and nearly *everything* relies on OpenLDAP (sendmail routing, classes, hashes, auth, pop3, imap, ftp, htaccess, etc) and has so for years. This is not to say that the Netscape/now Redhat offering doesn't provide anything positive. I'm just not planning on rushing out and switching because it has a nice GUI, which is what you say the benifit is. (well that and the stupid 200,000 comment).
> Back a few years ago the engineers were claiming > that one typical server running Netscape > Directory could handle 200,000 clients.
What the hell does that mean? You obviously don't know anything about LDAP. Each instance of OpenLDAP takes over 90 hits a second. 90 hits for every one of the over 3 million emails we recieve a day. We have millions of LDAP entries. "What does 200,000 clients" mean? 200k concurrent connections? Nope, take a look at available sockets on Linux. 200k records? Please.
Last year alt.coffee in NYC freaked out about power consumption. I don't know if it is still this way. It's a pretty good discussion on what the real costs are. http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwi reless/2004-February/008140.html
GPL projects should make exceptions and restrict the use of their software for EV1.net or anyone else that support SCO by paying similiar to what the author of NMAP has done. See how much they "protect" their users when they can't use glibc or the Linux kernel.
You have obviously never been to Yakima county. The city of Yakima is flat, but we are talking about the county here. There are several bluffs ranges and canyons. I wouldn't call the area flat.
Does anyone on slashdot ever watch or try to figure out what your companies executives are doing on a day to day basis? A large amount of time is spent by senior management developing stratigic alliances with other corporations. Ever wonder why certain people were picked to be on the board of the start-up that you work/ed for? It is because of their value in setting up meetings with other companies that may be benificial to your start-up. Some people are on several boards (with other people that are on several other boards, and on and on and on). With that said, you can bet your sweet ass that Redhat has talked with IBM about this.
As a former "crackberry" (both "Internet edition" and "Corporate edition") user I feel qualified to reply.
Spam is no more a problem for mobile email than it is on the desktop. Procmail and things such as SpamAssassin work. All mail is forwarded to one of RIM's email servers and forwarded to the pager. I could be very selective about what email was sent to me wirelessly.
From the nature of the question, it would seem that you have not had to make very many enterprise tech decisions. You are not thinking like a manager. Let me explain.
There is value to RH ADV SRV. You yourself mentioned a few of them. Inexperienced decision makers tend to error on the side of being cheap instead just buying the right product. The end of life support is enough to tip the scales. Upgrading a out of date RH distro that has been hacked all to hell is not something you would want to do in the enterprise level numbers.
The cost of licensing ADV SRV is a very small portion of the lifetime costs.
He should have looked at his NDA harder before signing it if he was so worried about AOL having control over his "personal" projects. I put personal in quotes because if he really wanted to have free control over his personal projects he should have coded them on his own time, and posted them to personal, non-work public machines. Even if he is under a NDA or contract that his personal software projects are controlled by AOL, he certainly could have used a fake name...I mean, its "the expression" right?
No one can really blame AOL for pulling some of the projects that this guy has released...lets see, the last one was replacing banner ads in AOL IM to display winamp visializations, and this one was a p2p app. Both were basicly a big FUCK YOU to AOL.
Personally, I'm suprised he had the chance to quit instead of being led out by security.
Taken from Fuckedcompany.com in Dec. (Jo Anne was soon fired afterwards, go figure).
From: Jo Anne Miller To: Gluon - Site - All Sent: 12/6/2002 3:03 PM Subject: Commitment Message from the ALL HANDS MEETING Importance: High
As those who were present at the All Hands Meeting this morning already know, I am seeking the PERSONAL Commitment of everyone at Gluon to the Release 2.1 development schedule. I expect a return email from all the staff to tell me if they can step up and make the commitment to DO EVERYTHING IT TAKES, INCLUDING POSTPONING DECEMBER VACATIONS to hit the 2.1 ready for field trial milestone of January 20, 2003 and ready to deploy milestone of February 21, 2003. I also need to know if you will volunteer to be here the week of December 23-27 and Dec. 30-Jan. 4.
Please consider this decision carefully. Don't say yes if you don't believe that you and your fellow Gluon teammates can make this happen. Don't say yes, if you aren't ready to find bugs, fix bugs, document the product and get this ready to go out the door. Don't say yes if you are too burned out to look forward to continued late nights, long hours and stretch milestones.
Now more than ever, the Gluon team must have the start-up/do whatever it takes mentality. If any of you are not of that mentality anymore, have personal/family issues that prohibit you from making the full commitment, please tell me that as well and I will do whatever I can to assist you to find a job outside of Gluon.
I am attaching the four key slides from the all hands related to our commitment to refresh your memory of what is required and why.
Looking forward to hearing back from everyone
Jo Anne Miller Gluon Networks, Inc. 5401 Old Redwood Hwy. Petaluma, CA 94954 707-285-4001 www.gluonnetworks.com
Slashdot Mirror
People keep pointing to the issue that Spamhaus does not "do business" in Illinois as a reason that this lawsuit is bogus. Here in Iowa, my employer pays Spamhaus multi thousands of dollars a year to be provided zone transfers of the xbl and sbl. I'm sure there is someone in Illinois doing the same. Would this not be considered doing business in Illinois? With that said, I've been watching this story with intense interest as my job becomes much harder if something were to happen to Spamhaus suddenly.
ISP's already do this in a limited fashion (blocking port 25 and well known insecure ports). As far as blocking after the infraction? We tried that, however imagine having several hundred thousand customers, and 80% are infected with some sort of worm. Each customer contact takes an average of 45 minutes (yes, it does, if you want to keep a customer, you don't just shut them down and leave them flapping in the wind with no knowledge of how to get cleaned up).
I built and admin mail for around 100k users. Their is no f'ing way that you can run 13 million accounts on 10 machines. One webmail server for 13 million people?
I was seriously embarrassed when I had to buy some in Jersey City, NJ, and all the boxes were in spanish. I had to call my wife while pointing at diffrent boxes (that were behind the counter).
> Anyone who has ever tried to setup and configure > OpenLDAP knows that its not worth it and will
> send you to a mental hospital fairly quickly.
I don't usually post on Slashdot as a good deal of the users are noobs and idiots, but I couldn't let this one slide.
Way to invalidate years of development on OpenLDAP . In my opinion, OpenLDAP is very easy to configure, and quite robust. I built an ISP with over 100k users and nearly *everything* relies on OpenLDAP (sendmail routing, classes, hashes, auth, pop3, imap, ftp, htaccess, etc) and has so for years. This is not to say that the Netscape/now Redhat offering doesn't provide anything positive. I'm just not planning on rushing out and switching because it has a nice GUI, which is what you say the benifit is. (well that and the stupid 200,000 comment).
> Back a few years ago the engineers were claiming > that one typical server running Netscape
> Directory could handle 200,000 clients.
What the hell does that mean? You obviously don't know anything about LDAP. Each instance of OpenLDAP takes over 90 hits a second. 90 hits for every one of the over 3 million emails we recieve a day. We have millions of LDAP entries. "What does 200,000 clients" mean? 200k concurrent connections? Nope, take a look at available sockets on Linux. 200k records? Please.
Last year alt.coffee in NYC freaked out about power consumption. I don't know if it is still this way. It's a pretty good discussion on what the real costs are.i reless /2004-February/008140.html
http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycw
Standing with all those scumbags in the unemployment line. You're job may be boring, but I am positive that it would be welcomed in India.
GPL projects should make exceptions and restrict the use of their software for EV1.net or anyone else that support SCO by paying similiar to what the author of NMAP has done. See how much they "protect" their users when they can't use glibc or the Linux kernel.
Doing windows tech support for your **EX-WIFE**? I'd rather have my eyes gouged out with a pickle fork.
You have obviously never been to Yakima county. The city of Yakima is flat, but we are talking about the county here. There are several bluffs ranges and canyons. I wouldn't call the area flat.
Its a great idea, but as in the case of every good idea, its already being done, and has a patent.
see:
6,633,761
6,665,537
Probably more but I'm too lazy to look.
$8 dollars and a candy bar.
I've had good luck with Huntrecruiting (www.huntrecruiting.com). They placed me in my next to last job with a large relocation package.
Hell, my website is just linked to by drupal.org and my site dead.
Fire this man immediatly! Seriously, corporations such as this have the most to gain from massive virus outbreaks.
Does anyone on slashdot ever watch or try to figure out what your companies executives are doing on a day to day basis? A large amount of time is spent by senior management developing stratigic alliances with other corporations. Ever wonder why certain people were picked to be on the board of the start-up that you work/ed for? It is because of their value in setting up meetings with other companies that may be benificial to your start-up. Some people are on several boards (with other people that are on several other boards, and on and on and on). With that said, you can bet your sweet ass that Redhat has talked with IBM about this.
Your in the middle of the ocean trolling Slashdot? Right...
As a former "crackberry" (both "Internet edition" and "Corporate edition") user I feel qualified to reply.
Spam is no more a problem for mobile email than it is on the desktop. Procmail and things such as SpamAssassin work. All mail is forwarded to one of RIM's email servers and forwarded to the pager. I could be very selective about what email was sent to me wirelessly.
From the nature of the question, it would seem that you have not had to make very many enterprise tech decisions. You are not thinking like a manager. Let me explain.
There is value to RH ADV SRV. You yourself mentioned a few of them. Inexperienced decision makers tend to error on the side of being cheap instead just buying the right product. The end of life support is enough to tip the scales. Upgrading a out of date RH distro that has been hacked all to hell is not something you would want to do in the enterprise level numbers.
The cost of licensing ADV SRV is a very small portion of the lifetime costs.
He should have looked at his NDA harder before signing it if he was so worried about AOL having control over his "personal" projects. I put personal in quotes because if he really wanted to have free control over his personal projects he should have coded them on his own time, and posted them to personal, non-work public machines. Even if he is under a NDA or contract that his personal software projects are controlled by AOL, he certainly could have used a fake name...I mean, its "the expression" right?
No one can really blame AOL for pulling some of the projects that this guy has released...lets see, the last one was replacing banner ads in AOL IM to display winamp visializations, and this one was a p2p app. Both were basicly a big FUCK YOU to AOL.
Personally, I'm suprised he had the chance to quit instead of being led out by security.
I am very afraid to tell you that, yes we do... Bush approves quarantine for mystery illness
Taken from Fuckedcompany.com in Dec. (Jo Anne was soon fired afterwards, go figure).
From: Jo Anne Miller
To: Gluon - Site - All
Sent: 12/6/2002 3:03 PM
Subject: Commitment Message from the ALL HANDS MEETING
Importance: High
As those who were present at the All Hands Meeting this morning already
know, I am seeking the PERSONAL Commitment of everyone at Gluon to the
Release 2.1 development schedule. I expect a return email from all the
staff to tell me if they can step up and make the commitment to DO
EVERYTHING IT TAKES, INCLUDING POSTPONING DECEMBER VACATIONS to hit the
2.1 ready for field trial milestone of January 20, 2003 and ready to
deploy milestone of February 21, 2003. I also need to know if you will
volunteer to be here the week of December 23-27 and Dec. 30-Jan. 4.
Please consider this decision carefully. Don't say yes if you don't
believe that you and your fellow Gluon teammates can make this happen.
Don't say yes, if you aren't ready to find bugs, fix bugs, document the
product and get this ready to go out the door. Don't say yes if you are
too burned out to look forward to continued late nights, long hours and
stretch milestones.
Now more than ever, the Gluon team must have the start-up/do whatever it
takes mentality. If any of you are not of that mentality anymore, have
personal/family issues that prohibit you from making the full
commitment, please tell me that as well and I will do whatever I can to
assist you to find a job outside of Gluon.
I am attaching the four key slides from the all hands related to our
commitment to refresh your memory of what is required and why.
Looking forward to hearing back from everyone
Jo Anne Miller
Gluon Networks, Inc.
5401 Old Redwood Hwy.
Petaluma, CA 94954
707-285-4001
www.gluonnetworks.com
First off I'd like to point out that on Dice.com there are *Exactly* 2 IT job listings...hardly an employment hotbed.
I'm a unix admin with over 12 years of experience...I've been out of work for 8 months now. Please do not try to tell me that the IT industry is ok.
Well, your going to need one hell of a powerfull linksys box if you want the encryption to scale to say, 2000 users, how about 10,000?.
Really, if it were that easy.
www.speakeasy.com fits all of these requirements.