I am a web developer (J2EE). IE is the most 'forgiving' browser out there. In fact, the more I can avoid the likes of netscape, the better. Most people run on IE, so I make my apps work for IE.
Having said all that, I use firefox at work (when not browsing my own apps) and exclusively at home. I just like the extensions, tabbed browsing, etc... better. Luckily, there isn't much of a difference between IE and Firefox like there is between IE and Netscape.
Think about this. The company you have is getting hacked. Valuable information gets destroyed. Your boss fires you, or in the worst case, the company goes bankrupt.
Dear god, do I really need to do this?
Compare a company going bankrupt and someone losing their jobs to 3 young children surrounded by fire and die a terrible death engulfed in flame.
That's the difference between a bug and a life and death situation. That's the difference between MS 'protection' support and 911.
One person (or company full of people) are miserable in one situation, in the other, innocent lives are taken from children who were in the wrong place at the wrong time, and entire family and friends have to mourn and deal with the lose.
Get out from under your computer and rejoin us here in the real world. You've been gone too long.
I agree... especially after reading this: Well, your question has more than a bit of a "when did you stop beating your wife" feel to it, but I'll address the core question, which is what are we trying to do and how are we doing.
Most people would just avoid the question. Rob finds the point in the attack and addresses it. Now thats a person to respect (hey, you don't have to like him, or his company, but at least give him respect).
Any situation where it could cause a life or death issue is already backed by some serious security.
And you obviously have never worked for a financial institution. I'm a contractor who is regularly contracted to banks and insurance agencies. There isn't any way someone is hacking into something like that.
Even so, do you really think there is a solid link between MS Security Support and 911? Honestly, is there a real comparison there? What you gave me was a reach.
I meant no insult to you, nor your group. You guys do good work. I meant it for the editors, cause it isn't really news for this site (and I'm saying it as a fan of the old console music and remixes of them).
Umm... Minibosses are a rock band who play NES songs, gamingfm is a streaming site to hear game songs (or remixes).
The point is, stuff like this isn't remotely new or news. I'm guessing this is a buddy of someone on slashdot or VA, or they are paying for the advertisement.
Any normal slashdot article would have about 50-100 comments by now. This one has 5 (4 of which are trolls).
Anime should be in its own section, IMHO. Its only here because of Taco's love of it. I really don't consider it a 'nerdy' thing. Sure, lotsa geeks are anime fanboys, and some actually enjoy the plots and stuff in the movies, but it really doesn't fit in with technology and science in my opinion.
So I say give it its own section so Taco can keep up with it, and it can avoid the frontpage... the other option would be to create a new site, I dunno, call it animefu, and have Taco put all his anime stuff on it....
Reminds me quite a bit of Fallout. Game looked incredibly silly, but was one of the best RPG's ever (and it was also a '1940s post appocalyptic world' genre).
Is this really necessary anymore? How many people DON'T know about bugmenot? Hell, there is even a firefox extension to plop it straight into your browser!
It also comes down to cost. Launching a rocket to get the probe vs sending the probe to earth to be caught is a difference of hundreds of millions of dollars (if not billions). You want your taxes raised to be on the safe side of NASA missions??
Abso-posi-lutely!
I've interviewed people that thought it was fun to be an ass when they were fired. Granted, I wasn't the boss, but behaviour like that isn't usually tolerated by the new boss.
Be professional, and leave like a man. Doing something stupid is viewed as juvenile, and if anyone (not just the boss, but anyone in that company) is part of the hiring process for a job you really want, you'll be happy you did the professional thing.
I'm going off of memory, which may not be correct at all. But here are my assumptions:
X-Chat is free
X-Chat may or may not be open source
X-Chat borrows off of other GPL code
What's the big deal? Its a free project that no one is getting money from. Now if it was a big corporation, trying to make a profit off of GPL'ed code, I'd see a problem, but this is just silly.
The thing I notice most about GPL and open source in general is how many internal flame wars ensue. Just be happy things are being passed around for free. No need to worry about how lawyerly the coders can understand the lawyerspeak in the GPL license.
I'm requalifying my statement to only be valid if my assumptions are true.
granted, but most scopes make it easy to take multiple pics (most amateur astronomy pics on the web are multiple stacked pics). All you really need, then, is the software. I'm sure this research is good enough to either let the code out, or some bored astronomer coders will come up with something similar.
This really is a huge boost to amateur astronomy. All "size doesn't matter" jokes aside (gawd, that got old fast), an average amateur astronomer with a reasonably priced scope has a chance to find something new in space. That has to be exciting to anyone who looks up at the sky and wondered.
Who's gonna go get a scope now? I suggested Orion Scopes for price vs bells and whistles (if you are into the extra gadgetry and have the paycheck to not care about price, go Meade).
Fantastic point. I know there used to be a canteen and thermos that kept beverages colder (or hotter) like 5 times longer than a normal thermos, and got rid of the 'metally' or 'plasticy' tastes. But it wasn't at all recyclable, so the whole project was dropped.
I think that if it ain't recyclable, its a cool experiment at most.
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I can NEVER find a server playing galactic conquest. I'm surprised they are still updating it even though it gets very few users.
Plz see sig.
I'm with acidic, here.
I am a web developer (J2EE). IE is the most 'forgiving' browser out there. In fact, the more I can avoid the likes of netscape, the better. Most people run on IE, so I make my apps work for IE.
Having said all that, I use firefox at work (when not browsing my own apps) and exclusively at home. I just like the extensions, tabbed browsing, etc... better. Luckily, there isn't much of a difference between IE and Firefox like there is between IE and Netscape.
Simply take a bottle full of Ipecac and save yourself a few thousand dollars.
Think about this. The company you have is getting hacked. Valuable information gets destroyed. Your boss fires you, or in the worst case, the company goes bankrupt.
Dear god, do I really need to do this?
Compare a company going bankrupt and someone losing their jobs to 3 young children surrounded by fire and die a terrible death engulfed in flame.
That's the difference between a bug and a life and death situation. That's the difference between MS 'protection' support and 911.
One person (or company full of people) are miserable in one situation, in the other, innocent lives are taken from children who were in the wrong place at the wrong time, and entire family and friends have to mourn and deal with the lose.
Get out from under your computer and rejoin us here in the real world. You've been gone too long.
I agree... especially after reading this:
Well, your question has more than a bit of a "when did you stop beating your wife" feel to it, but I'll address the core question, which is what are we trying to do and how are we doing.
Most people would just avoid the question. Rob finds the point in the attack and addresses it. Now thats a person to respect (hey, you don't have to like him, or his company, but at least give him respect).
Any situation where it could cause a life or death issue is already backed by some serious security.
And you obviously have never worked for a financial institution. I'm a contractor who is regularly contracted to banks and insurance agencies. There isn't any way someone is hacking into something like that.
Even so, do you really think there is a solid link between MS Security Support and 911? Honestly, is there a real comparison there? What you gave me was a reach.
Wow, you are compairing computer bugs to life and death situations.
What's worse is someone marked you 'insightful.'
Sometimes slashdot think truely amazes me.
Dude... you just scored me a new sig!
... the amount of replies that will start with the same subject header as mine and not be funny at all?
I sure can!
I meant no insult to you, nor your group. You guys do good work. I meant it for the editors, cause it isn't really news for this site (and I'm saying it as a fan of the old console music and remixes of them).
Even before this question:
Do you feel like you even have a chance of winning, considering that you are in a third party?
Umm... Minibosses are a rock band who play NES songs, gamingfm is a streaming site to hear game songs (or remixes).
The point is, stuff like this isn't remotely new or news. I'm guessing this is a buddy of someone on slashdot or VA, or they are paying for the advertisement.
Now this is what I call front page material.
Any normal slashdot article would have about 50-100 comments by now. This one has 5 (4 of which are trolls).
Anime should be in its own section, IMHO. Its only here because of Taco's love of it. I really don't consider it a 'nerdy' thing. Sure, lotsa geeks are anime fanboys, and some actually enjoy the plots and stuff in the movies, but it really doesn't fit in with technology and science in my opinion.
So I say give it its own section so Taco can keep up with it, and it can avoid the frontpage... the other option would be to create a new site, I dunno, call it animefu, and have Taco put all his anime stuff on it....
Reminds me quite a bit of Fallout. Game looked incredibly silly, but was one of the best RPG's ever (and it was also a '1940s post appocalyptic world' genre).
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Is this really necessary anymore? How many people DON'T know about bugmenot? Hell, there is even a firefox extension to plop it straight into your browser!
It also comes down to cost. Launching a rocket to get the probe vs sending the probe to earth to be caught is a difference of hundreds of millions of dollars (if not billions). You want your taxes raised to be on the safe side of NASA missions??
Abso-posi-lutely!
I've interviewed people that thought it was fun to be an ass when they were fired. Granted, I wasn't the boss, but behaviour like that isn't usually tolerated by the new boss.
Be professional, and leave like a man. Doing something stupid is viewed as juvenile, and if anyone (not just the boss, but anyone in that company) is part of the hiring process for a job you really want, you'll be happy you did the professional thing.
Between you and jaime, I expect one of you to be dead by the end of October. ;-)
I'm going off of memory, which may not be correct at all. But here are my assumptions:
X-Chat is free
X-Chat may or may not be open source
X-Chat borrows off of other GPL code
What's the big deal? Its a free project that no one is getting money from. Now if it was a big corporation, trying to make a profit off of GPL'ed code, I'd see a problem, but this is just silly.
The thing I notice most about GPL and open source in general is how many internal flame wars ensue. Just be happy things are being passed around for free. No need to worry about how lawyerly the coders can understand the lawyerspeak in the GPL license.
I'm requalifying my statement to only be valid if my assumptions are true.
granted, but most scopes make it easy to take multiple pics (most amateur astronomy pics on the web are multiple stacked pics). All you really need, then, is the software. I'm sure this research is good enough to either let the code out, or some bored astronomer coders will come up with something similar.
This really is a huge boost to amateur astronomy. All "size doesn't matter" jokes aside (gawd, that got old fast), an average amateur astronomer with a reasonably priced scope has a chance to find something new in space. That has to be exciting to anyone who looks up at the sky and wondered.
Who's gonna go get a scope now? I suggested Orion Scopes for price vs bells and whistles (if you are into the extra gadgetry and have the paycheck to not care about price, go Meade).
Yes, the best model for this is have the game funded through advertisers and give out the game cheaply (or even free!).
But the truth of the matter is, they'll sell for the same amount and EA execs will line their pockets more.
I wonder if this would help out the indy or open source developer??
Fantastic point. I know there used to be a canteen and thermos that kept beverages colder (or hotter) like 5 times longer than a normal thermos, and got rid of the 'metally' or 'plasticy' tastes. But it wasn't at all recyclable, so the whole project was dropped.
I think that if it ain't recyclable, its a cool experiment at most.
Instead of fixes, I'll be expecting apps to pop up that allows you to view the victims. Some people will really get a kick outta this.