I'm not totally opposed to them trying new stuff out but...
- Looking suspicious because your cheating on someone. - Looking suspicious because your trying to blame someone else for a ripping fart. - Thinking up ways to lie about how you totally read the book for your book of the month club when you really only watched the movie.
I mean need I go on? We humans, well us normal humans anyway not the robots they want us to be, are normally always up to something. Unless thou some machine can tell that we are as well as what exactly we are planning it's going to be useless.
I actually just got off the WoW treadmill after nearly 4 years. Had nothing to do with WAR but I just finally was like I'm done with this.
And an interesting reason why is because off...PvP! You see I actually played WoW for mostly it's PvE aspect. I mean the PvP in WoW was OK but having been someone who PvPed in RTS games mostly it's balance was always so laughable I never took it seriously. I mean at the end of 1.x I was in a Naxx level guild and could go PvP with my geared to the 9's Shaman, and all my geared up buddys, and just destroy other people. Let's not get into class balance.
So enter 2.0 and the Arenas and what it did to the PvP, and eventual PvE, part of the game. Now a whole new level of gear imbalance was introduced with class balance being put under a huge microscope. Because no matter how you slice it the classes were never originally designed to be balanced for dueling in a box. So on such a small scale, like the 2v2 bracket, it was just a joke. I was rolling with now a Feral Druid main and it was a freaking daily thing to watch the "amg damn OP Druids" crap start up. Rare was it that they would qualify that it was not my spec that was the problem.
But even worse was the sense of entitlement that 'our new PvPing overlords' felt about class balance. Because they were PvPing it was 'game breaking slaps to the face' when their ideas about balance were not addressed. Never mind how what they might propose would do to the PvE aspect of the game. "This game is not about PvE anymore," was an oft quoted phrase.
I could go on here but I guess what I'm trying to say is that I think it's cool that WAR has been designed from the ground up with PvP (sounds more like RvR to me but what do I know) in mind. But I don't think they understand part of the appeal of WoW's PvP system. That it currently is imbalanced and people like that. Want to pwn? Level up the latest FOTM and faceroll to victory. It's not really as easy as all that but close enough that it's been working pretty good to keep those who think WoW has always had some sort of PvP background happy just because it had the word war in it's title.
That one scene in Iron Man where he's building the next version of his suit. He's got himself that neato 3d CAD program. Been a long time since I did any technical drawings so I can't comment on how useful it would actually be but it looked damn cool.
But for the web? Nah. Not practical or useful. The only thing I can see being remotely 3d'ish would be a representation of the webs pathing. However that's stretching it by a lot and still not even needed.
Sounds to me like someone only has a '3d hammer' so all their ideas will be '3d nails'.
People keep saying this as if the world does not know Microsoft exists? I think you would have to get deep into the bush before you would find anyone who did not know who MS is at this point. So that leaves 'presence' type ad. (Sorry I am probably labeling it wrong but I'm not that familiar with marketing terms.)
There are ads like Coke does that have no point whatsoever. They just are just they type of staying in peoples awareness type ads. So are we to buy that this ad campaign, which I thought was supposed to be about Vista, was that type of ad from MS?
Sorry, not buying it. I mean associating "WTF?!" with Vista/MS in general is not exactly what I'd want to be doing if I were MS. I'm not sure their stockholders are all that thrilled either.
As for McCain's being reluctant to type, maybe, the fact, that his arms were repeatedly broken by his Vietnamese torturers, has something to do with that? The man can't raise his hands above his shoulders must you blast him for depending upon his wife to comb his hair?
We all feel for the man but how many times do we have to see this card played? And quite frankly what bearing does it have on his qualifications?
Gee, if this were required qualifications for an executive office, certainly, the blind Governor of New York should be disqualified, because he can't drive and is thus "out of touch" with New York's horrific traffic congestion problems.
To be specific to your example NY's traffic is not that bad. Were there are obvious traffic issues would be in NYC which would be the NYC mayors problem. But whatever, it's really beside the point.
The point is that some physical issues are pertinent to what your expected to do. As per your example would you like your cab driver to be blind? Of course not. So when discussing such things I think his typing skills due to past injuries may be a bit over the line however having said that his overall health issues are not. And his overall health is not what you'd call great.
When repeating Obama's ads on other forums, check the expiration date they get stale very quickly.
Same goes for you when your posting McCain's points.
I just got a laptop for gaming. It's a 1.13 GHZ P3 with 256MB of ram. I spent all weekend playing apple II and TG16 games on it. I had a blast.
It's not playing games on laptops that's silly. It's the obsession with playing the latest resource hogging games that's silly.
Yeah...ok. I mean great, I'm glad you enjoy your retro gaming. Heck I even like firing up some of the older stuff now and then. But your kidding right? You think that modern games should be forced into near decades old hardware requirements?
I'm sure some games do squander resources but what your trying to equate your example too is silly. Could a game like Mass Effect be played on a 2600? Games like WoW could not even exist without todays modern internet infrastructure.
I guess your point is that it's about game play over graphics kinda and sure great point. But the way you go about making it is kinda/facepalm.
IINAL but I know that land law has all sorts of funky provisions like this. Unless you can come up with a few precedents that are a little closer to what this whole story is about I don't see how your example is relevant.
Even the most 'the internet is made up of tubes' judge would be unlikely to buy that land precedent is relevant in this type of case. I would Apples and oranges?
IINAL but I know that land law has all sorts of funky provisions like this. Unless you can come up with a few precedents that are a little closer to what this whole story is about I don't see how your example is relevant.
Even the most 'the internet is made up of tubes' judge would be unlikely to buy that land precedent is relevant in this type of case. I would hope...hope...
IMO PC gaming will stay strong due to MMOs. Consoles have been trying to break into that market for a while but PCs offer so many advantages for the MMO platform. Given the current popularity of MMOs I see that PC games still are going to be around. I will thou admit that every time I post something like this I normally kinda/facepalm at the idea that there is impending doom for PC gaming but the consoles are, finally, kinda taking over single player games.
Thanks in no small part that DRM on PC games, especially ports, is a nightmare. I recently picked up Mass Effect and it's just awful. Well, the game itself is great but it crashes non-stop. Lots of people try to say it's hardware related but that's a load of bull. When you have a port that has a pretty hardcore DRM system on it it's not hard to figure out why it's crashing so much.
BioWare of course has remained pretty mute on the subject. No real surprise to me but they are losing a lot of good will from PC gamers. How that fact will impact their, and other more stand-alone style PC games, will be interesting. Seeing as how it's more common now to see such games designed 1st for the console then ported to PC rather than how it used to be; the other way around.
I still think that the often cried demise of PC gaming is much exaggerated. However as I said I do concede that consoles, in no small part due to DRM type issues, are making their presence felt.
You can sign away certain rights, including the right to sue. There is (apparently) nothing unconstitutional about this contract. There is no constitutional guarantee to sue someone.
What the judge said was that it was unconscionable, meaning that the contract has clauses that are so burdensome that no person would agree to them if they had a choice.
If you would be so kind to someone who did not RTFA what part of AT&T's service was the EULA attached too? Because if it was anything other than home phone service would that not put it in the same boat as any other EULA where you have other options?
By that I mean I can choose not to play WoW and thus avoid the EULA. I can choose not to use AT&T Wireless and instead use someone else. So on and so forth. To me the only thing I could not avoid are local monopolies like the local telcos, power, etc.
The simple truth is that gaming on PC's, regardless of the operating system is dying a slow death. I'm a long time fan of PC gaming, but when given that: Here we go again...
1) a gaming PC is substantially more expensive than a console Not for what you get. A console does not provide any real functionality outside of being a DVD player. PCs offer a very high level of functionality outside of gaming.
2) you frequently have driver and other compatibility problems I am never sure what prompts people to say this. I've not had any sort of driver and or compatibility problems for years now. Are there some people that are still running MS DOS and trying to game out there?
3) a number of PC games are launched in a rather buggy state Ok, this is a fair point. But thanks to the fact that they are PC games vs console games they are typically patched up quickly if they are a game of any real note.
4) the overall performance level of consoles has improved a lot in the latest generation Huh? They always improve, when was the last time that consoles did not improve when they were bumped up a gen. Not even sure what your tying to say here. It's not like PCs hardware is standing still either.
Linux gaming has it's own whole host of issues but dredging up the ol' PC gaming is gunna die argument really fails imo.
I think the bitch was more that the budget was being used in such a way that it was not doing any good for anyone. Partner X & Y don't need five grand machines to write up their depositions on. Instead a better use of the budget would have been to buy them some nice three grand machines and spend the other 4 grand on an upgrade for someone who's work relies more on the amount of computing power they have than those attorneys.
But of course you just wanted to troll. I wonder how much you have invested in your rig such that you can troll at maximum speed?
Mostly because if he leaves office with a horrid approval rating then being the sheep we are we will thing, "Ungh! Republican bad! Democrat good!" And vote a Democrat into office, or something like that.
It does get a little more complicated than that but general trend is when a high profile member from party X is doing that bad the only other option is to put vote in the guy from Y to see if he can do any better.
Sorry for the heavy dose of cynicism but we are talking politics.
Do you even have a clue what VMware is? It's not exactly going to be used by some end user.
"Out of the box" Ubuntu works just fine and it's not just installing it on VMware that breaks something, it's actually going the extra mile and installing the VMware tools that then breaks something. (If you still have no clue that involves starting the OS, going back to the VMware menu and toggleing the Install Tools option, going into the then mounted virtual CD and untarring the tools package, dropping into the shell, going root, running a script, and hopefully understanding the prompts where you for the most part just have to hit enter.)
Bottom line Ubuntu actually is damn impressive and stable for an end user OS. You thrash Linux for being something that has bugs in it? While you never come out and say your an MS shill I'm guessing that's what you are. And as such your last paragraph is the real joke here.
Maybe he should have tried standing up for himself in middle school, or at the very least had the common sense to understand that sometimes people are going to treat you unfairly and maybe it's best to just blow it off. Life isn't fair. Instead of building a wall he should have made friends with someone instead. He was a kid! That's why there are a ton of rules that are present in schools that don't apply later in life. Kid's don't have a fully developed sense of right and wrong, morality, and all the other things that happen at that age.
I got picked on too. That argument doesn't hold water. The same goes for high school and college. The simple fact is that he was a complete psycho nutcase that held the world in contempt and had no regard for life. Even his own. The blame lies squarely on his own shoulders. I'm sorry but what happened to you does not mean that it holds true for everyone. And the fact that you seem to not see that age has a great importance in when being "picked on" matters shows that you really don't understand what I think some people are trying to say here. I'm in total agreement that there is a ton of blame to be laid at his feet but this is not some isolated incident. As a society we need to look at what we can do to make things like this not happen. Saying in effect, "It's fine, learn to grow up," is not helping.
After installing the VMware tools the scroll wheel on most mice will become disabled. To fix this:
1. sudo -i (To become root.) 2. nano/etc/X11/xorg.conf (Or with what ever text editor you wish.) 3. In the Section "InputDevice" for your mouse change the line under "Protocol" that says, "ps/2" to "ImPS/2". 4. Restart X. (ctrl-alt-backspace, reboot, etc)
I realize that the OP is not really trying to draw any similarities between RPGs and MMORPGs but this is something I've been thinking about for a while now that I've had my 1st experience with a MMORPG; that being WoW.
MMORPGs are not really RPGs in much the same way that driving a car simulator is not the same as actually driving a car. A lot of the elements are present in the simulator but a large number are still missing.
This is not to say that MMORPGs aren't fun or don't have a place, but the more I've played WoW the more I find myself not really playing a RPG but more of an RPG simulator. Sure at times it feels like I'm playing an RPG but then I go and play something like Gothic, a good NWN module, etc and I'm reminded of all the elements I'm missing in that MMO.
For the record, yeah I cut my teeth back in the day on PnP AD&D, Carwars, Star Frontiers, along with a number of others. I won't even deny that a PnP RPG is the "true" RPG vs a CRPG but for me the convenience factor of being able to play around my schedule is key.
In closing I just wanted to put this out there since it was on my mind and this thread seemed as good a place as any. WoW bashing and it's flaws has it's place but that is not what I'm going for here, rather just wanted to make the observation that there is a hierarchy of RPG elements among the types.
I use a lot of flavors of Linux that offer what your talking about. However that is not the issue that I am actually refering to.
What I'm talking about is fresh installs for servers that I may be setting up. When setting up a server for a new client I tell them I'm comfortable with setting it up with whatever distro they might want. Often times that question alone is enough that I get the deer in the headlights look from them so I quickly then give them a list of the standard "big name" distros that they can consider.
So really the issue that I'm talking about is not so much upgrades as installs.
I'm on the couch watching the show, all I can think of is "criminals are stupid" and "these cops are walkin all over people's rights."
While I do like to think that there is some dramatic lisance taking with all these cop shows it is somewhat chilling to think that maybe they are trying to program us to accept what they portray as the norm.
I was watching an ep of CSI the other day and it's near the end of the show so they have to finish it up somehow. They got the guy there with his council and the seemeing only detective in LV is grilling him. Eventually it turns into a shouting match with the council saying "Not another word!" and such while the detective continues to shoot question and accusation at the guy. Finally the guy "breaks" and begins to confess and guys council says not another word.
While like I said it was the end of the show so they had to wrap it up somehow the feeling I got from that ending was not "Ah ha! They got him!" rather "Damn, that lawyer has got to be a drunk or something."
Ever asked somebody to do an install for you, either because you don't have time, or it's new to you, or whatever? They will always install every last little thing, "Because you may need it someday".
I'm a mean minimalist myself. The prosepect of a major distro upgrade do not always thrill me because it means I have to go though and see what exactly the "bare bones" install installed that I have to now remove.
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I'm not totally opposed to them trying new stuff out but...
- Looking suspicious because your cheating on someone.
- Looking suspicious because your trying to blame someone else for a ripping fart.
- Thinking up ways to lie about how you totally read the book for your book of the month club when you really only watched the movie.
I mean need I go on? We humans, well us normal humans anyway not the robots they want us to be, are normally always up to something. Unless thou some machine can tell that we are as well as what exactly we are planning it's going to be useless.
I actually just got off the WoW treadmill after nearly 4 years. Had nothing to do with WAR but I just finally was like I'm done with this.
And an interesting reason why is because off...PvP! You see I actually played WoW for mostly it's PvE aspect. I mean the PvP in WoW was OK but having been someone who PvPed in RTS games mostly it's balance was always so laughable I never took it seriously. I mean at the end of 1.x I was in a Naxx level guild and could go PvP with my geared to the 9's Shaman, and all my geared up buddys, and just destroy other people. Let's not get into class balance.
So enter 2.0 and the Arenas and what it did to the PvP, and eventual PvE, part of the game. Now a whole new level of gear imbalance was introduced with class balance being put under a huge microscope. Because no matter how you slice it the classes were never originally designed to be balanced for dueling in a box. So on such a small scale, like the 2v2 bracket, it was just a joke. I was rolling with now a Feral Druid main and it was a freaking daily thing to watch the "amg damn OP Druids" crap start up. Rare was it that they would qualify that it was not my spec that was the problem.
But even worse was the sense of entitlement that 'our new PvPing overlords' felt about class balance. Because they were PvPing it was 'game breaking slaps to the face' when their ideas about balance were not addressed. Never mind how what they might propose would do to the PvE aspect of the game. "This game is not about PvE anymore," was an oft quoted phrase.
I could go on here but I guess what I'm trying to say is that I think it's cool that WAR has been designed from the ground up with PvP (sounds more like RvR to me but what do I know) in mind. But I don't think they understand part of the appeal of WoW's PvP system. That it currently is imbalanced and people like that. Want to pwn? Level up the latest FOTM and faceroll to victory. It's not really as easy as all that but close enough that it's been working pretty good to keep those who think WoW has always had some sort of PvP background happy just because it had the word war in it's title.
That one scene in Iron Man where he's building the next version of his suit. He's got himself that neato 3d CAD program. Been a long time since I did any technical drawings so I can't comment on how useful it would actually be but it looked damn cool.
But for the web? Nah. Not practical or useful. The only thing I can see being remotely 3d'ish would be a representation of the webs pathing. However that's stretching it by a lot and still not even needed.
Sounds to me like someone only has a '3d hammer' so all their ideas will be '3d nails'.
3. It's got people talking about Microsoft.
People keep saying this as if the world does not know Microsoft exists? I think you would have to get deep into the bush before you would find anyone who did not know who MS is at this point. So that leaves 'presence' type ad. (Sorry I am probably labeling it wrong but I'm not that familiar with marketing terms.)
There are ads like Coke does that have no point whatsoever. They just are just they type of staying in peoples awareness type ads. So are we to buy that this ad campaign, which I thought was supposed to be about Vista, was that type of ad from MS?
Sorry, not buying it. I mean associating "WTF?!" with Vista/MS in general is not exactly what I'd want to be doing if I were MS. I'm not sure their stockholders are all that thrilled either.
As for McCain's being reluctant to type, maybe, the fact, that his arms were repeatedly broken by his Vietnamese torturers, has something to do with that? The man can't raise his hands above his shoulders must you blast him for depending upon his wife to comb his hair?
We all feel for the man but how many times do we have to see this card played? And quite frankly what bearing does it have on his qualifications?
Gee, if this were required qualifications for an executive office, certainly, the blind Governor of New York should be disqualified, because he can't drive and is thus "out of touch" with New York's horrific traffic congestion problems.
To be specific to your example NY's traffic is not that bad. Were there are obvious traffic issues would be in NYC which would be the NYC mayors problem. But whatever, it's really beside the point.
The point is that some physical issues are pertinent to what your expected to do. As per your example would you like your cab driver to be blind? Of course not. So when discussing such things I think his typing skills due to past injuries may be a bit over the line however having said that his overall health issues are not. And his overall health is not what you'd call great.
When repeating Obama's ads on other forums, check the expiration date they get stale very quickly.
Same goes for you when your posting McCain's points.
I just got a laptop for gaming. It's a 1.13 GHZ P3 with 256MB of ram. I spent all weekend playing apple II and TG16 games on it. I had a blast.
It's not playing games on laptops that's silly. It's the obsession with playing the latest resource hogging games that's silly.
Yeah...ok. I mean great, I'm glad you enjoy your retro gaming. Heck I even like firing up some of the older stuff now and then. But your kidding right? You think that modern games should be forced into near decades old hardware requirements?
I'm sure some games do squander resources but what your trying to equate your example too is silly. Could a game like Mass Effect be played on a 2600? Games like WoW could not even exist without todays modern internet infrastructure.
I guess your point is that it's about game play over graphics kinda and sure great point. But the way you go about making it is kinda /facepalm.
1. Open hosts file.
2. Set all google-analytics to: 127.0.0.1
3. Profit...er...hide.
Er...should have hit preview I guess but not sure why one of my paragraphs got doubled up. Weird...
Apples and oranges?
IINAL but I know that land law has all sorts of funky provisions like this. Unless you can come up with a few precedents that are a little closer to what this whole story is about I don't see how your example is relevant.
Even the most 'the internet is made up of tubes' judge would be unlikely to buy that land precedent is relevant in this type of case. I would Apples and oranges?
IINAL but I know that land law has all sorts of funky provisions like this. Unless you can come up with a few precedents that are a little closer to what this whole story is about I don't see how your example is relevant.
Even the most 'the internet is made up of tubes' judge would be unlikely to buy that land precedent is relevant in this type of case. I would hope...hope...
IMO PC gaming will stay strong due to MMOs. Consoles have been trying to break into that market for a while but PCs offer so many advantages for the MMO platform. Given the current popularity of MMOs I see that PC games still are going to be around. I will thou admit that every time I post something like this I normally kinda /facepalm at the idea that there is impending doom for PC gaming but the consoles are, finally, kinda taking over single player games.
Thanks in no small part that DRM on PC games, especially ports, is a nightmare. I recently picked up Mass Effect and it's just awful. Well, the game itself is great but it crashes non-stop. Lots of people try to say it's hardware related but that's a load of bull. When you have a port that has a pretty hardcore DRM system on it it's not hard to figure out why it's crashing so much.
BioWare of course has remained pretty mute on the subject. No real surprise to me but they are losing a lot of good will from PC gamers. How that fact will impact their, and other more stand-alone style PC games, will be interesting. Seeing as how it's more common now to see such games designed 1st for the console then ported to PC rather than how it used to be; the other way around.
I still think that the often cried demise of PC gaming is much exaggerated. However as I said I do concede that consoles, in no small part due to DRM type issues, are making their presence felt.
Just because AU has it bad does that mean that everyone else should too? Should the Japanese scale down their inet infrastructure to match yours?
Yes, as has been said your inet needs work there. Don't blame us thou for wanting to make sure ours is getting better, not worse.
You can sign away certain rights, including the right to sue. There is (apparently) nothing unconstitutional about this contract. There is no constitutional guarantee to sue someone.
What the judge said was that it was unconscionable, meaning that the contract has clauses that are so burdensome that no person would agree to them if they had a choice.
If you would be so kind to someone who did not RTFA what part of AT&T's service was the EULA attached too? Because if it was anything other than home phone service would that not put it in the same boat as any other EULA where you have other options?
By that I mean I can choose not to play WoW and thus avoid the EULA. I can choose not to use AT&T Wireless and instead use someone else. So on and so forth. To me the only thing I could not avoid are local monopolies like the local telcos, power, etc.
The simple truth is that gaming on PC's, regardless of the operating system is dying a slow death. I'm a long time fan of PC gaming, but when given that:
Here we go again...
1) a gaming PC is substantially more expensive than a console
Not for what you get. A console does not provide any real functionality outside of being a DVD player. PCs offer a very high level of functionality outside of gaming.
2) you frequently have driver and other compatibility problems
I am never sure what prompts people to say this. I've not had any sort of driver and or compatibility problems for years now. Are there some people that are still running MS DOS and trying to game out there?
3) a number of PC games are launched in a rather buggy state
Ok, this is a fair point. But thanks to the fact that they are PC games vs console games they are typically patched up quickly if they are a game of any real note.
4) the overall performance level of consoles has improved a lot in the latest generation
Huh? They always improve, when was the last time that consoles did not improve when they were bumped up a gen. Not even sure what your tying to say here. It's not like PCs hardware is standing still either.
Linux gaming has it's own whole host of issues but dredging up the ol' PC gaming is gunna die argument really fails imo.
I think the bitch was more that the budget was being used in such a way that it was not doing any good for anyone. Partner X & Y don't need five grand machines to write up their depositions on. Instead a better use of the budget would have been to buy them some nice three grand machines and spend the other 4 grand on an upgrade for someone who's work relies more on the amount of computing power they have than those attorneys.
But of course you just wanted to troll. I wonder how much you have invested in your rig such that you can troll at maximum speed?
Proper link for the lazy.
Mostly because if he leaves office with a horrid approval rating then being the sheep we are we will thing, "Ungh! Republican bad! Democrat good!" And vote a Democrat into office, or something like that.
It does get a little more complicated than that but general trend is when a high profile member from party X is doing that bad the only other option is to put vote in the guy from Y to see if he can do any better.
Sorry for the heavy dose of cynicism but we are talking politics.
Do you even have a clue what VMware is? It's not exactly going to be used by some end user.
"Out of the box" Ubuntu works just fine and it's not just installing it on VMware that breaks something, it's actually going the extra mile and installing the VMware tools that then breaks something. (If you still have no clue that involves starting the OS, going back to the VMware menu and toggleing the Install Tools option, going into the then mounted virtual CD and untarring the tools package, dropping into the shell, going root, running a script, and hopefully understanding the prompts where you for the most part just have to hit enter.)
Bottom line Ubuntu actually is damn impressive and stable for an end user OS. You thrash Linux for being something that has bugs in it? While you never come out and say your an MS shill I'm guessing that's what you are. And as such your last paragraph is the real joke here.
So your saying instead of government slogans like "Don't do drugs!" they should just paint them with big bullseyes?
After installing the VMware tools the scroll wheel on most mice will become disabled. To fix this:
/etc/X11/xorg.conf (Or with what ever text editor you wish.)
1. sudo -i (To become root.)
2. nano
3. In the Section "InputDevice" for your mouse change the line under "Protocol" that says, "ps/2" to "ImPS/2".
4. Restart X. (ctrl-alt-backspace, reboot, etc)
Well he did use Counter Strike in his example. That was my 1st tip off that he most likely had a poor grasp on much of anything.
I realize that the OP is not really trying to draw any similarities between RPGs and MMORPGs but this is something I've been thinking about for a while now that I've had my 1st experience with a MMORPG; that being WoW.
MMORPGs are not really RPGs in much the same way that driving a car simulator is not the same as actually driving a car. A lot of the elements are present in the simulator but a large number are still missing.
This is not to say that MMORPGs aren't fun or don't have a place, but the more I've played WoW the more I find myself not really playing a RPG but more of an RPG simulator. Sure at times it feels like I'm playing an RPG but then I go and play something like Gothic, a good NWN module, etc and I'm reminded of all the elements I'm missing in that MMO.
For the record, yeah I cut my teeth back in the day on PnP AD&D, Carwars, Star Frontiers, along with a number of others. I won't even deny that a PnP RPG is the "true" RPG vs a CRPG but for me the convenience factor of being able to play around my schedule is key.
In closing I just wanted to put this out there since it was on my mind and this thread seemed as good a place as any. WoW bashing and it's flaws has it's place but that is not what I'm going for here, rather just wanted to make the observation that there is a hierarchy of RPG elements among the types.
I use a lot of flavors of Linux that offer what your talking about. However that is not the issue that I am actually refering to.
What I'm talking about is fresh installs for servers that I may be setting up. When setting up a server for a new client I tell them I'm comfortable with setting it up with whatever distro they might want. Often times that question alone is enough that I get the deer in the headlights look from them so I quickly then give them a list of the standard "big name" distros that they can consider.
So really the issue that I'm talking about is not so much upgrades as installs.
I'm on the couch watching the show, all I can think of is "criminals are stupid" and "these cops are walkin all over people's rights."
While I do like to think that there is some dramatic lisance taking with all these cop shows it is somewhat chilling to think that maybe they are trying to program us to accept what they portray as the norm.
I was watching an ep of CSI the other day and it's near the end of the show so they have to finish it up somehow. They got the guy there with his council and the seemeing only detective in LV is grilling him. Eventually it turns into a shouting match with the council saying "Not another word!" and such while the detective continues to shoot question and accusation at the guy. Finally the guy "breaks" and begins to confess and guys council says not another word.
While like I said it was the end of the show so they had to wrap it up somehow the feeling I got from that ending was not "Ah ha! They got him!" rather "Damn, that lawyer has got to be a drunk or something."
Ever asked somebody to do an install for you, either because you don't have time, or it's new to you, or whatever? They will always install every last little thing, "Because you may need it someday".
I'm a mean minimalist myself. The prosepect of a major distro upgrade do not always thrill me because it means I have to go though and see what exactly the "bare bones" install installed that I have to now remove.