Or you can just have the city build the network and give equal access to all providers. This gives a level playing field to any provider that wants to take advantage of it. Comcast, AT&T and Qwest sure fought tooth and nail against it but in my locality we actually made it a reality. I have a 15 Mb data pipe (that's both down AND up, thank you very much!) that costs me about $30 per month. I haven't taken advantage of any of the television or telephone offerings yet, but they are there if I wish to do so.
Having a community-owned network guarantees that the providers can't just cherry-pick the wealthy customers as was described in TFA. The network is available to every home in each city that it serves. Data is becoming a valuable utility and I think that a public infrastructure is in everyone's best interests.
you keep saying without evidence, sorry, but that is not true, there is a vast amount of evidence out there. do you also believe that Jesus isn't real, that he never existed? because if so, you are saying that all the historical accounts are false. Even athiestic historians know there was a man named Jesus that caused a disturbance in Israel.
AFAIK, it is generally accepted that Jesus existed, but there is little evidence (other than a heavily edited book) that he was actually the son of a supernatural being and was able to perform magical feats.
It doesn't make much sense to start thinking of locations in terms of colonization unless there is some real practical drive for it.
One of the smartest people alive, Professor Stephen Hawking, has recently stated that we should be colonizing other planets. He seems to think there is a practical drive for it - I would tend to trust his judgment in this matter over a random/. poster.
So they hire your friend to pen test their security and, rather than implement his findings, they made up a "wanted poster" and did nothing else? What was the point of hiring him in the first place?
He said his friend was doing a security audit, he didn't say the company actually hired him.
Reality has proved you wrong. Even small companies dumping toxic waste has a large impact on a large amount of people. Love Canal wasn't created by some huge multi-national. According to wikipedia:
n 1942, Hooker Chemical and Plastics Corporation (a subsidiary of Occidental Petroleum)
Yeah, Occidental Petroleum only has revenues of $11.3 billion and 7200 employees. From OPC's website:
Occidental's oil and gas operations are consolidated in three core areas - the United States, the Middle East and Latin America.
Hmmm, seems like this company is huge and multi-national. So Love Canal WAS caused by a huge multi-national corporation. Your point is (kind of) valid, but you picked a terrible example.
And what about the producers that recorded his music? The audio engineers that probably make a heck of a lot less money than he does? Do you think he'll take your $15.00 and divvy it up among the people that helped him make the album?
I am not sure of the producers (although in this case they are probably label flacks) but generally the audio engineer is paid for his time at the time of recording, he does not receive royalties. Sure - he gets paid less than Weird Al, but there is always a disparity in the pay between tech and talent in the entertainment industry.
Huh? Unearthed also means "To bring to public notice; uncover." which could certainly apply in this case. It doesn't HAVE to be the literal definition.
Just because 53% of people believe he should have the power to conduct warrantless wiretaps does not mean it is legal. If you want this program to be legal, you are going to have to change the Constitution.
There has been no demonstration of how this program makes us safer. Even if it is making us safer, is it worth the spectre of a totaliarian state hanging over us? Does anyone really believe the executive branch should have the right to wiretap american's calls with absolutely no oversight? I am not ready to give up my liberties for (questionable) safety.
The NY Times says, "The poll found that 53 percent of Americans approved of Mr. Bush's authorizing eavesdropping without prior court approval 'in order to reduce the threat of terrorism.'"
Facts, schmacts. A majority of americans also believe Iraq had WMDs, even after very meticulous inspections failed to provide any evidence to support this administration's justification for war.
Please show evidence of one species evolving into a new distinct species.
Do you accept that mountains are upthrust through tectonic activity or do you dismiss this "theory" as well because it happens too slowly for you to personally observe? Evolutionary theory has not been around long enough to observe the creation of a new species in mammals, but new species of creatures that reproduce quickly - like bacteria - are quite common.
For examples of a single species that is in the progress of evolution into multiple species take a look at some of the examples of Ring Species on Wikipedia.
I can't believe none of the previous replies said it, so I guess I'll have to: RTFA. It specifically mentions that someone will be on the moon with this stuff, it will not be at an unmanned base....
To be fair, nobody did. The articles I've read in Science, New Scientist, etc., said this has never happened in medical research before.
Never happened before? I guess that is sort of accurate, in the past they would just fake the trials and release the drug to the public, as in the case of Thalidomide. There are many documented cases of drugs that had unexpected severe side effects. This is the reason clinical trials exist - so any issues can be found BEFORE general release to the public.
<pedantic>
I've read wavers, and I've read articles in medical journals about wavers (British Medical Journal has good articles). If a waver
Hey, if somebody beat up the bully who was stealing your lunch money and took his bike, iPod and cell phone
Poor analogy. It is more like someone somebody stealing a quarter out of a bully's pocket. The bully still has thousands of dollars in extorted lunch money if the poor sap doing the stealing gets away with it — and if the bully catches the Robin Hood he is in for a world of hurt.
I'll somewhat buy into the nuclear power arguement you made. Do realize though that this "mostly clean" waste it produces is stored underground, and is highly radioactive. What happens when the shielding on its casing decays, or a seismic shift ruptures the storage facility?
Even then we are better off than with coal plants, which are spewing radiation into the air we breathe. You will absorb more radiation living next door to a coal plant than a nuclear plant. From a paper at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory's website:
Former ORNL researchers J. P. McBride, R. E. Moore, J. P. Witherspoon, and R. E. Blanco made this point in their article "Radiological Impact of Airborne Effluents of Coal and Nuclear Plants" in the December 8, 1978, issue of Science magazine. They concluded that Americans living near coal-fired power plants are exposed to higher radiation doses than those living near nuclear power plants that meet government regulations. This ironic situation remains true today and is addressed in this article.
The fact that coal-fired power plants throughout the world are the major sources of radioactive materials released to the environment has several implications. It suggests that coal combustion is more hazardous to health than nuclear power and that it adds to the background radiation burden even more than does nuclear power.
For some reason americans have an irrational fear of nuclear power, even though the worst accident in US history (Three Mile Island) released no detectable radiation into the environment. Go figure....
According to the SSA, it is your choice whether or not you give them your number. From ssa.gov: If a business or other enterprise asks you for your SSN, you can refuse to give it. However, that may mean doing without the purchase or service for which your number was requested. For example, utility companies and other services ask for a Social Security number, but do not need it; they can do a credit check or identify the person in their records by alternative means.
Giving your number is voluntary, even when you are asked for the number directly. If requested, you should ask why your number is needed, how your number will be used, what law requires you to give your number and what the consequences are if you refuse. The answers to these questions can help you decide if you want to give your Social Security number. The decision is yours.
Great page, I found this quote to be quite apt in our current political climate:
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." -- Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Göring during the Nuremberg Trials
Data on a puiblic server is public, period. That they give you the convieninece of putting weak protection over something does not suddenly make that data magically protected by law in ways the original facebook data was not - after all, if someone stole and then gave away your facebook password would there be in fact any laws broken?
Yes. If the attempt to bar access to the data was made and the user circumvented the access controls. If the user is not authorized to access the computer system then he should not be doing so. What is authorized access varies from state to state, in my state it is defined like this:
"Authorization" means having the express or implied consent or permission of the owner, or of the person authorized by the owner to give consent or permission to access a computer, computer system, or computer network in a manner not exceeding the consent or permission.
The standard B&M analogy to your example of a password being available would be that a shopkeeper locked up for the night and accidentally dropped the key to the store on the front mat. Is it legal to enter the store just because there is a key to it lying on the mat? How about if there is a crappy lock on the door, or if the shopkeeper neglects to lock the door? Just because the security is not up to standards does not give you the right to trespass.
However, in this case it appears that Facebook has the legal right to do whatever it likes with the data. The user agreed to those terms when he signed up, if he does not agree to the terms he is free not to use the service.
Slashdot Mirror
YOU'RE, you idiot. Not "your".
Or you can just have the city build the network and give equal access to all providers. This gives a level playing field to any provider that wants to take advantage of it. Comcast, AT&T and Qwest sure fought tooth and nail against it but in my locality we actually made it a reality. I have a 15 Mb data pipe (that's both down AND up, thank you very much!) that costs me about $30 per month. I haven't taken advantage of any of the television or telephone offerings yet, but they are there if I wish to do so.
Having a community-owned network guarantees that the providers can't just cherry-pick the wealthy customers as was described in TFA. The network is available to every home in each city that it serves. Data is becoming a valuable utility and I think that a public infrastructure is in everyone's best interests.
AFAIK, it is generally accepted that Jesus existed, but there is little evidence (other than a heavily edited book) that he was actually the son of a supernatural being and was able to perform magical feats.
One of the smartest people alive, Professor Stephen Hawking, has recently stated that we should be colonizing other planets. He seems to think there is a practical drive for it - I would tend to trust his judgment in this matter over a random
He said his friend was doing a security audit, he didn't say the company actually hired him.
Yeah, Occidental Petroleum only has revenues of $11.3 billion and 7200 employees. From OPC's website:
Hmmm, seems like this company is huge and multi-national. So Love Canal WAS caused by a huge multi-national corporation. Your point is (kind of) valid, but you picked a terrible example.
Maybe they did not provide you with a reason because moderators are not allowed to post in the discussions they moderate? You must be new here....
Oh, you mean this? The least you could do is provide a link....
I am not sure of the producers (although in this case they are probably label flacks) but generally the audio engineer is paid for his time at the time of recording, he does not receive royalties. Sure - he gets paid less than Weird Al, but there is always a disparity in the pay between tech and talent in the entertainment industry.
Huh? Unearthed also means "To bring to public notice; uncover." which could certainly apply in this case. It doesn't HAVE to be the literal definition.
Printable Version
There has been no demonstration of how this program makes us safer. Even if it is making us safer, is it worth the spectre of a totaliarian state hanging over us? Does anyone really believe the executive branch should have the right to wiretap american's calls with absolutely no oversight? I am not ready to give up my liberties for (questionable) safety.
Facts, schmacts. A majority of americans also believe Iraq had WMDs, even after very meticulous inspections failed to provide any evidence to support this administration's justification for war.
Do you accept that mountains are upthrust through tectonic activity or do you dismiss this "theory" as well because it happens too slowly for you to personally observe? Evolutionary theory has not been around long enough to observe the creation of a new species in mammals, but new species of creatures that reproduce quickly - like bacteria - are quite common.
For examples of a single species that is in the progress of evolution into multiple species take a look at some of the examples of Ring Species on Wikipedia.
I don't know what casinos you are going to, but if they are making you pay for drinks you are going to the wrong place.
I can't believe none of the previous replies said it, so I guess I'll have to: RTFA. It specifically mentions that someone will be on the moon with this stuff, it will not be at an unmanned base....
Never happened before? I guess that is sort of accurate, in the past they would just fake the trials and release the drug to the public, as in the case of Thalidomide. There are many documented cases of drugs that had unexpected severe side effects. This is the reason clinical trials exist - so any issues can be found BEFORE general release to the public.
<pedantic>
Waivers
Wavers
</pedantic>
I might be able to take the site a little more seriously if they didn't use Comic Sans so liberally.
Poor analogy. It is more like someone somebody stealing a quarter out of a bully's pocket. The bully still has thousands of dollars in extorted lunch money if the poor sap doing the stealing gets away with it — and if the bully catches the Robin Hood he is in for a world of hurt.
Even then we are better off than with coal plants, which are spewing radiation into the air we breathe. You will absorb more radiation living next door to a coal plant than a nuclear plant. From a paper at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory's website:
For some reason americans have an irrational fear of nuclear power, even though the worst accident in US history (Three Mile Island) released no detectable radiation into the environment. Go figure....
According to the SSA, it is your choice whether or not you give them your number. From ssa.gov:
If a business or other enterprise asks you for your SSN, you can refuse to give it. However, that may mean doing without the purchase or service for which your number was requested. For example, utility companies and other services ask for a Social Security number, but do not need it; they can do a credit check or identify the person in their records by alternative means.
Giving your number is voluntary, even when you are asked for the number directly. If requested, you should ask why your number is needed, how your number will be used, what law requires you to give your number and what the consequences are if you refuse. The answers to these questions can help you decide if you want to give your Social Security number. The decision is yours.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, dessert heat
Great page, I found this quote to be quite apt in our current political climate:
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." -- Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Göring during the Nuremberg Trials
There are some OK tracks on this but not near enough Frontalot or Hawking.
Yes. If the attempt to bar access to the data was made and the user circumvented the access controls. If the user is not authorized to access the computer system then he should not be doing so. What is authorized access varies from state to state, in my state it is defined like this:
The standard B&M analogy to your example of a password being available would be that a shopkeeper locked up for the night and accidentally dropped the key to the store on the front mat. Is it legal to enter the store just because there is a key to it lying on the mat? How about if there is a crappy lock on the door, or if the shopkeeper neglects to lock the door? Just because the security is not up to standards does not give you the right to trespass.
However, in this case it appears that Facebook has the legal right to do whatever it likes with the data. The user agreed to those terms when he signed up, if he does not agree to the terms he is free not to use the service.
You obviously have an impaired sense of humor. Please schedule an appointment with a comedian immediately.