Why would OEMs buy something that would piss off their customers?
We're talking a niche market here.
Some specialized software costs tens of thousands of dollars per seat. If this takes off, this software could require this DRM. Meaning that you must buy a PC which includes this scheme. Trust me, there will be software which requires this DRM and there will be PC makers which will provide the required hardware.
so why is the university i go to saying that the RIAA is telling them to shut down internet accounts for *downloading* files, not distributing them?
What, the RIAA lie? Say it isn't so! They've always been so honorable in the past. Next thing you'll tell me is that the government sometimes lies. I'm so disillusioned... who oh who can I trust?
Might just be fun to go into a record store and ask why they put a disc that clearly isn't a CD (no label) in the CD-section.
What are you, a masochist? Have you seen the people they hire in record stores these days? I don't know about you, but if I wanted to make a point, it wouldn't be with one of those simpletons.
I think its pretty 'shallow' of them to bring people to court over this issue. How do they know you don't legally own all the MP3s or movies you are downloading?...
The RIAA is not going after downloaders, contrary to what they, and the media, would have you believe. The ONLY people they go after are those who OFFER tunes for OTHER PEOPLE to download, in other words, distributing.
I don't care what the headlines say, read between the lines for gods sake and check it out. In every case where someone has been threatened legal action by the RIAA, they were DISTRIBUTING, not just DOWNLOADING.
An exploding manned (soon to be unmanned) spacecraft would carry a breathable atmosphere and other gases/particles to carry sound. Weapon zaps and engine whines would be audible from within these crafts and over their comm-links.
An interesting theory, but it would sound totally different. The sound you hear on earth from an explosion a mile away is not because air particles or whatever travelled a mile, but are the result of sound waves... the actual particles not travelling very far at all, but causing waves with their neighboring particles. Using JMS's theory, there would be no sound waves and I'm sure it would sound nothing like we would expect.
What gets me every time is when there is, say, an explosion (ala Star Wars) in space, and it goes "Boom!".
Obviously, without air, there would be no sound. I think it's much more dramatic to see the explosion without hearing the sound, like they did in 2001: A Space Oddessy, rather than the way they did it in Star Wars, which came across as rather cartoonish in comparison.
If you don't use pirated software why would you even care about this?
Um, maybe for the same reason that American citizens care about the Constitution and understand the concept of a limited government?
"But the thing is, you don't have many suspects who are innocent of a crime. That's contradictory. If a person is innocent of a crime, then he is not a suspect." (former Attorney General) Ed Meese, US News & World Report, 10-15-85
Hardly, the "real world" will presumably turn out to be just level of the Matrix.
Or, the "real world" will turn out to be the "real world" and Neo will really have developed special powers.
Many people believe that "reality" is just a collective hallucination. That everything that is "real" is actually the product of thought by someone. So if thought can define reality, then reality would only be limited to that which one believed was possible. The only limits in such a world would be that which people BELIEVE was impossible, whether or not such things were indeed impossible.
Maybe when Jesus said, "If you had faith, you could move mountains" he really meant it. Maybe the only thing that is keeping us from "mentally moving mountains" is that we don't BELIEVE it can be done. If one KNEW with 100% certainty (not 99% certainty, but 100% certainty) that moving a mountain mentally was possible, perhaps it could be done. But 100% certainty of knowledge is not possible.
But what if someone develops those understandings about the hallucinogenic nature of reality within an artificial reality. Live in artificial surroundings for years, virtually "mentally moving mountains" and come to believe 100% that it could be done, and who knows what would happen in "real life"
Understand, I'm not saying this is all true, I'm just saying that there is more than one way for Neo to have powers in "real life".
I know this is flamebait, but consider what a breakthrough Doom was.
I remember the first time I saw it running... some guy at work had it running on this machine, and I was like, "woah!", I had never seen anything like it... fully 3D, and smooth. Mario, on the other hand, was 2D at that time... had a high fun-factor but absolutly zero "woah" factor.
Then I realized that even if I could sneak one of those CD-R's from the supplies closet (kept under lock and key, because they were $10 apiece then) and even then it wouldn't run on my machine (I was running an XT at home at the time).
The GPL allows unlimited copies, the copyright law allows one. Therefore, the GPL is invalid.
*sigh*
The GPL allows NO copies "except as expressly provided under this (the GPL) licence". (from the GPL)
So if you don't buy into the GPL 100%, no copies for you, not even for backup. Not even if you are hosting an FTP site for an open source provider as a favor, because according to the GPL, "You MAY NOT COPY... except as provided under this License" (emphasis added)
That would seem to me to be opposed to fair use. If I am hosting an FTP site, why should I have to accept ANY licence to back up my server? But the GPL seems to require that.
What SCO is saying is that all this violates copyright law, which allows at least one copy for backup, without having to accept the GPL.
I fear that many on Slashdot is underestimating the shear ignornace of the legal system and the ineptitude of its judges. I think we need to have a plan just in case the worst happens.
I, on the contrary, fear that many on Slashdot have been pummeled so many times with tales of illogic and perfidy by those in power that they are predisposed to wallow, weep, and tremble melodramatically at the prospect of the first legal test of the GPL and the legal status of Linux.
Yeah, the leagal system is not perfect. That's why there are appeals courts. Can you really conceive of anything SCO can do that would go through all levels of apppeals that would leave no recourse and destroy Linux? Any decision, upheld through all appeals, that cannot be addressed by re-writing any pirated code, or re-writing the GPL?
For christ's sake stop with the fear mongering already.
You should run Privoxy. Great for suppressing advertising, but it also includes a webfilter with which you can change the content of pages before it gets to your browser. Like:
Slow down, take a breath, and consider why that pinball thing has your panties all in a twist. I'm sensing a logical disconnect here.
Would you criticize Red Hat or Slackware if they did the same thing? I installed Red Hat the other day, and it had "Tux Racer" on it. Did a full install of Slackware, there were PLENTY of games.
... because very few perl scripters know how to do it... write an OOP script in Perl, and only an expert will be able to maintain your work.
This is so common in Perl (and other languages). Especially with contractors, for some reason. They come in, write expert level code, using all the secret codes and handshakes, then the average schmucks in the cube farms cannot maintain the code.
At least with proprietary technology there is the promise of accoutability [*] in the product.
LOL! Accountability, to Microsoft, is having script monkeys read off the answers to questions, or if the customer REALLY wants to hold Microsoft accountable, they MIGHT even get Microsoft to refund what you paid for the software on the hacked machine. Woo hoo! I can see it now.
"Er, Boss, we got hacked last night."
"WHAT!!! WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT!?!?!? WHOSE NECKTIE CAN I GRAB?"
"Er, well, Microsoft's going to send us a check for tree fitty."
I'm betting they will. Just check out the insider trades done by SCO executives lately. They're all selling... none of them buying. True, the sums are not Gatesian, but not exactly chump change. Plenty of 'em are exercising options where they bought shares for pennies a share, and are selling for eleven and twelve dollars a share.
Looking at those insider trades actually makes me feel better about the whole thing. SCO executives are obviously in this to pump up the stock and make a killing in the market. They are not in it for the lawsuit, per se. I'm not sure what the standard of proof the SEC would need to charge these criminals, but their motives are obvious, given their insider trading.
No, 98 isn't in the list for this vulnerability (MS03-026).
From: MS03-026
Affected Software:
Microsoft Windows NT(R) 4.0 Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 Terminal Services Edition Microsoft Windows 2000 Microsoft Windows XP Microsoft Windows Server(TM) 2003
Not Affected Software:
Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition
So 98's not on either list. Looks like non-supported software to me.
However, things are better than they used to be. A thousand years ago, the little guy had NO chance at justice. Now, at least, he has a chance. A slim chance, but a chance. Things are looking up.
dude, no it doesn't dude. like, dude, i don't deal with salesmen who approach me, dude. like, never, dude. never, ever, ever. one more time, dude. NEVER! if some salesman dude comes up to me, and the subject of transferring money to him or his agents comes up, well, like, dude, he's out of my life, no ifs, ands, or buts, he's out, dude... i HAVE NEVER, and WILL NEVER deal with any unsolicitied salesman dude.
I beleive it's called insider trading when you know something and the rest of the world doesnt and you act upon that.
"Insiders" are able to trade the stock of the companies they work for, and are allowed to trade on the basis of inside knowledge. However, in order for it to be legal, they have to fill out forms with the SEC, which makes this information public, and wait a bit (i forget how long).
It won't be long now for some of SCO's insiders to begin filing with the SEC notifying them of their intent to trade (if they have not done so already). They're taking their time, though... this will be a long case and I expect them to sell in dribs and drabs rather than dumping piles of shares on the market.
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From the article:
If there's any lesson from this experience, it is not to use software developed in China or hire Chinese computer programmers
... and ESPECIALLY don't use the City Firewall software written by the City Wok guy.
Why would OEMs buy something that would piss off their customers?
We're talking a niche market here.
Some specialized software costs tens of thousands of dollars per seat. If this takes off, this software could require this DRM. Meaning that you must buy a PC which includes this scheme. Trust me, there will be software which requires this DRM and there will be PC makers which will provide the required hardware.
so why is the university i go to saying that the RIAA is telling them to shut down internet accounts for *downloading* files, not distributing them?
What, the RIAA lie? Say it isn't so! They've always been so honorable in the past. Next thing you'll tell me is that the government sometimes lies. I'm so disillusioned... who oh who can I trust?
Might just be fun to go into a record store and ask why they put a disc that clearly isn't a CD (no label) in the CD-section.
What are you, a masochist? Have you seen the people they hire in record stores these days? I don't know about you, but if I wanted to make a point, it wouldn't be with one of those simpletons.
I think its pretty 'shallow' of them to bring people to court over this issue. How do they know you don't legally own all the MP3s or movies you are downloading?...
The RIAA is not going after downloaders, contrary to what they, and the media, would have you believe. The ONLY people they go after are those who OFFER tunes for OTHER PEOPLE to download, in other words, distributing.
I don't care what the headlines say, read between the lines for gods sake and check it out. In every case where someone has been threatened legal action by the RIAA, they were DISTRIBUTING, not just DOWNLOADING.
An exploding manned (soon to be unmanned) spacecraft would carry a breathable atmosphere and other gases/particles to carry sound. Weapon zaps and engine whines would be audible from within these crafts and over their comm-links.
An interesting theory, but it would sound totally different. The sound you hear on earth from an explosion a mile away is not because air particles or whatever travelled a mile, but are the result of sound waves... the actual particles not travelling very far at all, but causing waves with their neighboring particles. Using JMS's theory, there would be no sound waves and I'm sure it would sound nothing like we would expect.
What gets me every time is when there is, say, an explosion (ala Star Wars) in space, and it goes "Boom!".
Obviously, without air, there would be no sound. I think it's much more dramatic to see the explosion without hearing the sound, like they did in 2001: A Space Oddessy, rather than the way they did it in Star Wars, which came across as rather cartoonish in comparison.
If you don't use pirated software why would you even care about this?
Um, maybe for the same reason that American citizens care about the Constitution and understand the concept of a limited government?
"But the thing is, you don't have many suspects who are innocent of a crime. That's contradictory. If a person is innocent of a crime, then he is not a suspect." (former Attorney General) Ed Meese, US News & World Report, 10-15-85
Hardly, the "real world" will presumably turn out to be just level of the Matrix.
Or, the "real world" will turn out to be the "real world" and Neo will really have developed special powers.
Many people believe that "reality" is just a collective hallucination. That everything that is "real" is actually the product of thought by someone. So if thought can define reality, then reality would only be limited to that which one believed was possible. The only limits in such a world would be that which people BELIEVE was impossible, whether or not such things were indeed impossible.
Maybe when Jesus said, "If you had faith, you could move mountains" he really meant it. Maybe the only thing that is keeping us from "mentally moving mountains" is that we don't BELIEVE it can be done. If one KNEW with 100% certainty (not 99% certainty, but 100% certainty) that moving a mountain mentally was possible, perhaps it could be done. But 100% certainty of knowledge is not possible.
But what if someone develops those understandings about the hallucinogenic nature of reality within an artificial reality. Live in artificial surroundings for years, virtually "mentally moving mountains" and come to believe 100% that it could be done, and who knows what would happen in "real life"
Understand, I'm not saying this is all true, I'm just saying that there is more than one way for Neo to have powers in "real life".
I know this is flamebait, but consider what a breakthrough Doom was.
I remember the first time I saw it running... some guy at work had it running on this machine, and I was like, "woah!", I had never seen anything like it... fully 3D, and smooth. Mario, on the other hand, was 2D at that time... had a high fun-factor but absolutly zero "woah" factor.
Then I realized that even if I could sneak one of those CD-R's from the supplies closet (kept under lock and key, because they were $10 apiece then) and even then it wouldn't run on my machine (I was running an XT at home at the time).
The GPL allows unlimited copies, the copyright law allows one. Therefore, the GPL is invalid.
*sigh*
The GPL allows NO copies "except as expressly provided under this (the GPL) licence". (from the GPL)
So if you don't buy into the GPL 100%, no copies for you, not even for backup. Not even if you are hosting an FTP site for an open source provider as a favor, because according to the GPL, "You MAY NOT COPY... except as provided under this License" (emphasis added)
That would seem to me to be opposed to fair use. If I am hosting an FTP site, why should I have to accept ANY licence to back up my server? But the GPL seems to require that.
What SCO is saying is that all this violates copyright law, which allows at least one copy for backup, without having to accept the GPL.
I fear that many on Slashdot is underestimating the shear ignornace of the legal system and the ineptitude of its judges. I think we need to have a plan just in case the worst happens.
I, on the contrary, fear that many on Slashdot have been pummeled so many times with tales of illogic and perfidy by those in power that they are predisposed to wallow, weep, and tremble melodramatically at the prospect of the first legal test of the GPL and the legal status of Linux.
Yeah, the leagal system is not perfect. That's why there are appeals courts. Can you really conceive of anything SCO can do that would go through all levels of apppeals that would leave no recourse and destroy Linux? Any decision, upheld through all appeals, that cannot be addressed by re-writing any pirated code, or re-writing the GPL?
For christ's sake stop with the fear mongering already.
Is it just me, or does anyone else read IANAL
You should run Privoxy. Great for suppressing advertising, but it also includes a webfilter with which you can change the content of pages before it gets to your browser. Like:
s/IANAL/I am not a lawyer/g
or
s/boxen/boxes/g
Makes reading slashdot much less annoying.
Slow down, take a breath, and consider why that pinball thing has your panties all in a twist. I'm sensing a logical disconnect here.
Would you criticize Red Hat or Slackware if they did the same thing? I installed Red Hat the other day, and it had "Tux Racer" on it. Did a full install of Slackware, there were PLENTY of games.
... that can't stand the extrovert dumbass dogs.
Seriously, though, as an introvert, extroverts come across to me as dumbasses: backslapping, guffawing, shallow frat boy yahoos.
I'm sure the contempt is mutual.
Hate it when I man a command, comes back with 86 cajillion options, but few, if any, examples of usage.
... because very few perl scripters know how to do it... write an OOP script in Perl, and only an expert will be able to maintain your work.
This is so common in Perl (and other languages). Especially with contractors, for some reason. They come in, write expert level code, using all the secret codes and handshakes, then the average schmucks in the cube farms cannot maintain the code.
At least with proprietary technology there is the promise of accoutability [*] in the product.
LOL! Accountability, to Microsoft, is having script monkeys read off the answers to questions, or if the customer REALLY wants to hold Microsoft accountable, they MIGHT even get Microsoft to refund what you paid for the software on the hacked machine. Woo hoo! I can see it now.
"Er, Boss, we got hacked last night."
"WHAT!!! WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT!?!?!? WHOSE NECKTIE CAN I GRAB?"
"Er, well, Microsoft's going to send us a check for tree fitty."
Now if only the SEC could get involved.
I'm betting they will. Just check out the insider trades done by SCO executives lately. They're all selling... none of them buying. True, the sums are not Gatesian, but not exactly chump change. Plenty of 'em are exercising options where they bought shares for pennies a share, and are selling for eleven and twelve dollars a share.
Looking at those insider trades actually makes me feel better about the whole thing. SCO executives are obviously in this to pump up the stock and make a killing in the market. They are not in it for the lawsuit, per se. I'm not sure what the standard of proof the SEC would need to charge these criminals, but their motives are obvious, given their insider trading.
How is it ironic? They sell linux.
No, 98 isn't in the list for this vulnerability (MS03-026).
From: MS03-026
Affected Software:
Microsoft Windows NT(R) 4.0
Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 Terminal Services Edition
Microsoft Windows 2000
Microsoft Windows XP
Microsoft Windows Server(TM) 2003
Not Affected Software:
Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition
So 98's not on either list. Looks like non-supported software to me.
I got portscanned, a ping and a finger attempt when I went to that site!
Too true.
However, things are better than they used to be. A thousand years ago, the little guy had NO chance at justice. Now, at least, he has a chance. A slim chance, but a chance. Things are looking up.
lmao...dude, it works on _everyone_...
dude, no it doesn't dude. like, dude, i don't deal with salesmen who approach me, dude. like, never, dude. never, ever, ever. one more time, dude. NEVER! if some salesman dude comes up to me, and the subject of transferring money to him or his agents comes up, well, like, dude, he's out of my life, no ifs, ands, or buts, he's out, dude... i HAVE NEVER, and WILL NEVER deal with any unsolicitied salesman dude.
I beleive it's called insider trading when you know something and the rest of the world doesnt and you act upon that.
"Insiders" are able to trade the stock of the companies they work for, and are allowed to trade on the basis of inside knowledge. However, in order for it to be legal, they have to fill out forms with the SEC, which makes this information public, and wait a bit (i forget how long).
It won't be long now for some of SCO's insiders to begin filing with the SEC notifying them of their intent to trade (if they have not done so already). They're taking their time, though... this will be a long case and I expect them to sell in dribs and drabs rather than dumping piles of shares on the market.