For starters because if the company really thought you were worth what they were making the counter offer at they should have been paying you that to begin with.
So why would they still make a counter offer?
Because its usually cheaper than replacing you and you already know what's going go.
If you want an honest counter offer, make 'em beat the new employer's offer by 25-30%. Because that more accurately reflects what your new employer is willing to spend on you in your first year.
Did they think we are not going to build the best products possible?
No, I think that MS is going to build crappy bugridden software that they can easily sell upgrades to. Windown ME for example. XP for another, Saw an XP box die at CompUSA yesterday, and nobody was touching it!
Did they think we were going to just be fat, dumb and happy and not continue to win business?
No I think you you're a monopoly and will use that to win business, in spite of being unreliable.
Did they think we were going to forget about taking care of our customers???
Since when did we ever thing you believed in taking care of your customers? I think you're idea of taking care of customers is economic cohersion by taking an open standard and extending it, makeing it propriatary, then calling your extension "a necessary improvement". (IE for example)
To fight this battle we need more l\Linux experts out there how can provided things like cost/benifit analysis. We also need adcovacates out there who can sell the business benifits of Linux, beyond the technical model and beyond "Hey dude, its Free".
You just draw frames where you want to have text and type in them
Sounds like we have an interleaf fan. Personally I like word processors, Word, StarOffice, Final Writer. But I have enough trouble getting what I want actually typed up without having to worry about layout specifics before I start working.
Systems such as these can map an entire hard disk with multiple desktops
Sorry this is a completely invalid assertation. you cannot map the entire HD using multiple desktops. My current system has a 5 gig, a 10 gig, a 30 gig, a CD-RW, and a zip. I need a file manager. My home directory alone has almost half a gig of data and files on it.
There are some fallicies with the HD system. for instance if I mount a zip, a CD or a floppy it would be nice if they were mounted under my $HOME rather than/mnt or/. (I'm well aware that this can be done with softlinks etc...) Under Win XX the desktop doesn't correspond to a reasonable storage location: My Documents. But the START button was a good concept, but poor implementation. Apps need to be easily accessable with a menu. IMHO works much better than cluttering up my desktop space with icons. Under Win whenever an app. puts something on my desktop it get's deleted.
As far as improving usability, GUI systems really don't 'need' much more than they already have. (Specifice tasks may need work, networking, and security.) But highly skilled developers don't need to be worrying about the fact that Grandma, doesn't know that the icon with the letter is for email. That's what her 10 year old grandchildren are for.
But in the multiple desktop, you are always on a desktop and can't ever get lost inside the computer.
Here again is another fallicy I have good reason to rarely run more than 4 VDs There is good reason why the heirarchal directory structure has remained and even become integrated into file structures.
It's easy to maintain and navigate. I fail to understand how navigating 8 levels down in a tree is more complex than navigating 8 VDs. With the 8 VDs you have prev, current and next. With the tree, you have parent, current, and maybe children.
It provides a single, easy-to-use method that everyone understands to organize large information in a computer.
Another invalid assertation, I have 37 directors in $HOME, not counting.directories How many desktops to would I have to navigate to find what I'm looking for? Perhaps I'm stupid, cynical is more like it, but I fail to understand how having potentially 37 VDs would help me with file management and storage. And incidentally I do not have a HD icon on my desktop, nor even a link to $HOME, that's on a menu under my right mouse button. Where it can be accessed anytime, but is out of the way.
While usability is still a concern I believe the author picked the subject more to get attention, that to actually foster innovation, and it appears to have worked.
That is only for today. As content creators converge on the PC industry we'll see more attempts at changing that. Rember Divx? It will be back. Just watch.
Why would you be forced to use MS DRM?
Because if MS has its way they will restrict the software used to play music and media to appropriately liscensed files. Think of it this way, no DRM signature, no play. And they will try and get software that does not check for DRM software declared as illegal under the DCMA. Think xmms, winamp, etc... suddenly banned as circumvention devices.
Sorry, Microsoft, but if I own the music, I OWN the music. Your limitation of my EXCLUSIVE OWNERSHIP of the music is illegal.
You're under the impression that you do OWN the music. You will not be purchasing music, you will be purchasing a liscense to listen to a particular copy of a piece of music stored on your system.
Even if you do own a particular piece of music: i.e. you have written and played yourself; You may well have to purchase a license from MS just to store the music your system. This would be done of course to ensure that people aren't making illegal copies of music and aren't circumventing other copy protection and liscensing schemes.
Besides does anybody actually believe that digital data is going to be around long enough for the copywrite to expire? Get real, we are never going to see the copywrite on anything expire in our lifetime because when stuff gets ready to expire they're going to come up with a loophole of some sort to extend the copywrite.
Maximum Income: Build into the progressive income tax a 100% tax on all income over ten times the minimum wage.
This party also want's to ban "Righ-to-Work" yet says that it's pro-labor. IMO unions are just big business by another name.
Nader can keep his party. But I want him to stay away from my business and my right to succeed or fail on my own merits. What he proposes certainly is neither democracy, or capitalism, more like facism.
(1) Torvalds has an overinflated ego. This can be demonstrated by the fact that he named the kernel after himself.
Actually, he didn't. Linux was named by a third party months after he released it. Read the usnet posting sometime. I would post it, but I'm not a Karma whore. Linus didn't even have a trademark on it untill somebody else trademarked it, and tried to take controll of it. Linux had to sue to keep Linux from being subverted.
If I go to Best Buy, and I give the $400 or whatever, and they give me a box with windows 2K in it, what am I doing if I'm not buying it?
If you don't own it, you can't sell or resell it
What is a license? A contract? I would think that it's a contract because is has the, "End User License Agreement". Contracts can be bought and sold, same with loans. If is says "if you don't agree the terms, here's what you need to do", what if those are part of the terms I don't agree with?
if I write to one of the media syndicates and get permission to use a Peanuts cartoon in some publication I'm working on, I can't then grant others access to use that cartoon, because I don't own it.
But if get the right's to use it in an advertisment for your company, and you sell the company, presumably the rights would go along with it.
That not a valid comparison because the terms of license agreed to before the money has exchanged hands. I don't seem anybody at Best Buy making me sign papers to the contrary before they have my money. And most stores usually have a policy of not accepting returns on software that has had the seal broken, so even if you do not agree to the EULA you're still SOL.
A serious case could be made that you really are purchasing the software, because you don't see the EULA untill 'after' the exchange has been made. So effectively the EULA is changing the purchase, a transaction between you and the store, to a licensing agreement after the fact.
The fact is that you never signed the EULA before making the purchase.
This is entirely different from the legacy EULAs and licenses because because the contract was agreed to and known before the money was exchanged.
Clearly MS is doing a bait and swap with their software. As far as I know that's illegal.
Sucks to work in CA. In texas you can go after the person who's job it is to do payroll.
If they ain't paying, find a lawyer who showes up in a bolo-tie and cowboy boots who's willing to work on contingency. Those guys can be nasty. You're ex-wife's divorce lawyer would probably also be good, you don't get paid, your ex doesn't get paied. Oh wait, never mind, this is/.
Get real people I find it amazing that there are all these Libertarians out there wanting to break up MS.
The liberatarian party is for free enterprise.
The MS breakup flies in the face of free trade, and competition. MS is and should be free to bundle any software package it want's with its OS. It's a simple economics of scale.
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Your CC info is less secure with Hailstorm than is is with anybody else. And in fact gives MS direct access to your purchasing infomation because they are directly invloved with the purchase. Much like a a travel agent has access to you itenary when you book a flight.
How many people do you want to have on demand access to your records?
Guaranteeing security and reliability will be a bitch and a half.
Rember MS doesn't even guarentee their software.
Websites may resist adopting it since customer info is the one valuable thing they have.
Websites have products to sell. Customer info simply allows them to gain info to sell products.
Without motivation (i.e. marketing blitz) and an easy way to sign up, consumers won't flock to it.
Of course it's going to be easy to sign up. How easy is it going to be to cancel?
Entrusting all that information to a single entity would make some peole nervous.
It should.
Next thing you know MS is gonna start having Hailstorm exclusivity contracts where realtors can't do business with non-hailstorm customers. Then they can try to force the non-hailstorm realtors out of the market.
This kind of technology is Big Brother at it's best. The idea of not having to type CC and universal preferences it nice, but this is a Big Brother and should be illegal.
Of course MS doesn't want to to sell it--they don't get a cut from it. You could probably sell the liscense on e-bay, and not even package the SW with it and it would be legal.
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Just how much do you think the Chinese Government actually trusts Microsoft Software?
Perhaps they think MS is going in the the CIA to spy on them.
Or perhaps they want to use MS software for content controll and to spy on their own people.
Why never?
For starters because if the company really thought you were worth what they were making the counter offer at they should have been paying you that to begin with.
So why would they still make a counter offer?
Because its usually cheaper than replacing you and you already know what's going go.
If you want an honest counter offer, make 'em beat the new employer's offer by 25-30%. Because that more accurately reflects what your new employer is willing to spend on you in your first year.
Isn't Red Hat already doing this?
Not very universal then is it?
No, I think that MS is going to build crappy bugridden software that they can easily sell upgrades to. Windown ME for example. XP for another, Saw an XP box die at CompUSA yesterday, and nobody was touching it!
Did they think we were going to just be fat, dumb and happy and not continue to win business?No I think you you're a monopoly and will use that to win business, in spite of being unreliable.
Since when did we ever thing you believed in taking care of your customers? I think you're idea of taking care of customers is economic cohersion by taking an open standard and extending it, makeing it propriatary, then calling your extension "a necessary improvement". (IE for example)
To fight this battle we need more l\Linux experts out there how can provided things like cost/benifit analysis. We also need adcovacates out there who can sell the business benifits of Linux, beyond the technical model and beyond "Hey dude, its Free".
Sounds like we have an interleaf fan. Personally I like word processors, Word, StarOffice, Final Writer. But I have enough trouble getting what I want actually typed up without having to worry about layout specifics before I start working.
Sorry this is a completely invalid assertation. you cannot map the entire HD using multiple desktops. My current system has a 5 gig, a 10 gig, a 30 gig, a CD-RW, and a zip. I need a file manager. My home directory alone has almost half a gig of data and files on it.
There are some fallicies with the HD system. for instance if I mount a zip, a CD or a floppy it would be nice if they were mounted under my $HOME rather than /mnt or /. (I'm well aware that this can be done with softlinks etc...) Under Win XX the desktop doesn't correspond to a reasonable storage location: My Documents. But the START button was a good concept, but poor implementation. Apps need to be easily accessable with a menu. IMHO works much better than cluttering up my desktop space with icons. Under Win whenever an app. puts something on my desktop it get's deleted.
As far as improving usability, GUI systems really don't 'need' much more than they already have. (Specifice tasks may need work, networking, and security.) But highly skilled developers don't need to be worrying about the fact that Grandma, doesn't know that the icon with the letter is for email. That's what her 10 year old grandchildren are for.
Here again is another fallicy I have good reason to rarely run more than 4 VDs There is good reason why the heirarchal directory structure has remained and even become integrated into file structures.
It's easy to maintain and navigate. I fail to understand how navigating 8 levels down in a tree is more complex than navigating 8 VDs. With the 8 VDs you have prev, current and next. With the tree, you have parent, current, and maybe children.
Another invalid assertation, I have 37 directors in $HOME, not counting .directories How many desktops to would I have to navigate to find what I'm looking for? Perhaps I'm stupid, cynical is more like it, but I fail to understand how having potentially 37 VDs would help me with file management and storage. And incidentally I do not have a HD icon on my desktop, nor even a link to $HOME, that's on a menu under my right mouse button. Where it can be accessed anytime, but is out of the way.
While usability is still a concern I believe the author picked the subject more to get attention, that to actually foster innovation, and it appears to have worked.
That is only for today. As content creators converge on the PC industry we'll see more attempts at changing that. Rember Divx? It will be back. Just watch.
Why would you be forced to use MS DRM?
Because if MS has its way they will restrict the software used to play music and media to appropriately liscensed files. Think of it this way, no DRM signature, no play. And they will try and get software that does not check for DRM software declared as illegal under the DCMA. Think xmms, winamp, etc... suddenly banned as circumvention devices.
So when they raise the price to $1.35, you would rather pay $1.35, than be tracked and pay $1.10?
You're under the impression that you do OWN the music. You will not be purchasing music, you will be purchasing a liscense to listen to a particular copy of a piece of music stored on your system.
Even if you do own a particular piece of music: i.e. you have written and played yourself; You may well have to purchase a license from MS just to store the music your system. This would be done of course to ensure that people aren't making illegal copies of music and aren't circumventing other copy protection and liscensing schemes.
Besides does anybody actually believe that digital data is going to be around long enough for the copywrite to expire? Get real, we are never going to see the copywrite on anything expire in our lifetime because when stuff gets ready to expire they're going to come up with a loophole of some sort to extend the copywrite.
An open letter from the man who advocates a 100% tax bracket.
GPUSAThis party also want's to ban "Righ-to-Work" yet says that it's pro-labor. IMO unions are just big business by another name.
Nader can keep his party. But I want him to stay away from my business and my right to succeed or fail on my own merits. What he proposes certainly is neither democracy, or capitalism, more like facism.
Get a business degree, like an MBA. Dealing with the suits has it's own set of challenges.
Actually, he didn't. Linux was named by a third party months after he released it. Read the usnet posting sometime. I would post it, but I'm not a Karma whore. Linus didn't even have a trademark on it untill somebody else trademarked it, and tried to take controll of it. Linux had to sue to keep Linux from being subverted.
If I go to Best Buy, and I give the $400 or whatever, and they give me a box with windows 2K in it, what am I doing if I'm not buying it?
What is a license? A contract? I would think that it's a contract because is has the, "End User License Agreement". Contracts can be bought and sold, same with loans. If is says "if you don't agree the terms, here's what you need to do", what if those are part of the terms I don't agree with?
But if get the right's to use it in an advertisment for your company, and you sell the company, presumably the rights would go along with it.
That not a valid comparison because the terms of license agreed to before the money has exchanged hands. I don't seem anybody at Best Buy making me sign papers to the contrary before they have my money. And most stores usually have a policy of not accepting returns on software that has had the seal broken, so even if you do not agree to the EULA you're still SOL.
A serious case could be made that you really are purchasing the software, because you don't see the EULA untill 'after' the exchange has been made. So effectively the EULA is changing the purchase, a transaction between you and the store, to a licensing agreement after the fact.
The fact is that you never signed the EULA before making the purchase.
This is entirely different from the legacy EULAs and licenses because because the contract was agreed to and known before the money was exchanged.
Clearly MS is doing a bait and swap with their software. As far as I know that's illegal.
Sucks to work in CA. In texas you can go after the person who's job it is to do payroll.
If they ain't paying, find a lawyer who showes up in a bolo-tie and cowboy boots who's willing to work on contingency. Those guys can be nasty. You're ex-wife's divorce lawyer would probably also be good, you don't get paid, your ex doesn't get paied. Oh wait, never mind, this is /.
Does it still leak memory?
Perhaps you should ask why you included privacy in your list and you will get your answer as to why private e-mail is a necessary freedom.
Mod this sucker down.
Get real people I find it amazing that there are all these Libertarians out there wanting to break up MS.
The liberatarian party is for free enterprise.
The MS breakup flies in the face of free trade, and competition. MS is and should be free to bundle any software package it want's with its OS. It's a simple economics of scale.
Your CC info is less secure with Hailstorm than is is with anybody else. And in fact gives MS direct access to your purchasing infomation because they are directly invloved with the purchase. Much like a a travel agent has access to you itenary when you book a flight.
How many people do you want to have on demand access to your records?
Guaranteeing security and reliability will be a bitch and a half.
Rember MS doesn't even guarentee their software.
Websites may resist adopting it since customer info is the one valuable thing they have.
Websites have products to sell. Customer info simply allows them to gain info to sell products.
Without motivation (i.e. marketing blitz) and an easy way to sign up, consumers won't flock to it.
Of course it's going to be easy to sign up. How easy is it going to be to cancel?
Entrusting all that information to a single entity would make some peole nervous.
It should.
Next thing you know MS is gonna start having Hailstorm exclusivity contracts where realtors can't do business with non-hailstorm customers. Then they can try to force the non-hailstorm realtors out of the market.
This kind of technology is Big Brother at it's best. The idea of not having to type CC and universal preferences it nice, but this is a Big Brother and should be illegal.
Of course MS doesn't want to to sell it--they don't get a cut from it. You could probably sell the liscense on e-bay, and not even package the SW with it and it would be legal.
Because Ghz is something that is marketable and the average consumer thinks they understand.
Since when does reality matter in the advertising world.
How many people have been killed by static discharges from PDAs?
Let's see now 13 million PDAs, the lawyers say they estimate there are, hundreds of thousands devices, that's like a
This isn't the first time a patent has been siezed by a government. I beleive that also happend with Shockley and the transistor.