The article is rather sensationalist, it is NOT a competitor to wireless USB or Bluetooth 3.0. In fact, it should be a complement rather then a rival. Transferjet can only broadcast 3mm.
Its meant to be a new way of interacting and transferring data. For instance you would be able to tap your TV, Computer, or Cellphone with your digital camera and the data would be transfered. Being its very short-range it won't be meant for wireless devices such as harddrives or headsets, but rater something that works in conjunction.
Beyond the bandwidth limitations on the consumer-end there are severe logistical issues that need to be addressed on the server-end before downloadable content is viable.
Consider that on a DVDs release they sell in the millions (tens of millions for popular titles). Currently Blu-ray is a drop in the bucket in scale compared to DVD, but we are still talking of hundreds of thousands in sale during the first week (and it should grow significantly higher as format is more widely adopted).
Now consider serving up 15GB-50GB movies per customer for a HD movie.
Even at 10GBs, we are talking about 10 terabytes of bandwidth for every 1,000 customers. 1 Petabytes of bandwidth for every 100,000 in sales.
Now imagine if you're only making ~$10 per HD movie download (Xbox Live HD rentals are $6). You are only talking in around $10k per 1,000 customers just to pay for 10 terabytes of bandwidth. This is before paying for other network costs, or the studios/artist/directors take on it, or paying for licensing fees.
Digital downloads make little sense for HD movies for the near future. CD sales still outstrip iTunes sales six-to-one even without these technical hurdles. Digital downloads for standard definition is probably much more realistic, but even that is being challenged by optical media. Sony is planing on having MP4 encoded versions of the movie on Blu-ray so that they can rip to their PSP without encoding. Fox plans on doing the same with DVDs using WMV (having a pre-encoded file so you don't have to rip).
Honestly, please stop using bolds everywhere and words like "IDDIIIIIOOOOOTS" (negates the point of bolds when half your submission is bolded). You're comments should be strong enough on the value of your words not by shoving them down everyone's throats by over the top formatting.
One thing I wish Wikipedia would do is cache the citations; if the citations are made to a website. I've noticed a slightly out-of-date wiki entry would usually have a good majority of their citations lead to pages that no longer exist. I'm sure there are legal and technical issues that make it difficult, however, transparency of works cited is crucial.
You are referring to the Lupo 3L TDI; except the vehicle roughly has the power & dimensions of an AMC Gremlin; (61hp & 14.5 seconds to hit 60 mph), and is impractical for roads that rely on highway driving. Also the car was based on the all-aluminum Audi A2 and was incredibly expensive to make (it weighs 1,000 lbs less then a Golf TDI at 1,882 lbs).
What this X-prize needs to do is make a 100mpg car that people can actually use and make an impact; not low-volume off specialty cars that are impractical for most people.
This is actually an incredibly old study from a CNW market research which is shady for-hire "market research" group that promotes the views of the client (Think about all those Microsoft-funded studies depicted Linux being incredibly expensive).
You can see the difference between 1080p and 1080i, the biggest difference is that most 1080i HDTV does not display at a full 1920x1080. This is compounded with high-motion video content which progressive is far superior then interlaced (and yes you can see artifacts). Also, 1080p players are not $1,000, both HD-DVD and Blu-ray have players in the $500 range (least of which the PS3, 360+add-on and Toshiba's entry-level HD_DVD player). Also, starting next year, all 1080p sets will become the norm and are already showing up in the $1k level (Westinghouse 1080p LCD, and Vizio has 46" 1080p set for $2k)
PS3 already has full-JAVA support via Blu-ray (also you can install Linux)
Blu-ray spec requires that all Blu-ray players have Java(J2ME, JavaTV API, etc.) due to future interactive menus, bonus material, etc will be done entirely in JAVA.
This is the core reason of Microsoft's opposition to Blu-ray and support of HD-DVD(which uses MS's iHD instead of JAVA) being that having a machine that runs JAVA by default and in every home can be very scary to MS.
So you shoiuld be able to make BD-J games on Blu-ray and have it play perfectly fine on the PS3 or any other Blu-ray player.
>> That would be an insightful comment, except that it's completely wrong. You can buy the Samsung BDP1000 Blu-Ray player for LESS than a playstation 3 (if you can even get your hands on a playstation 3), and the Samsung outputs at proper 1080p resolution. The playstation 3 does not.
You cannot buy Samsung BDP1000 Blu-Ray for less then a PS3, especially compared to the $500 PS3, which is just as good as the 60GB as far as a Blu-ray is concerned.
Also, the PS3 DOES output at proper 1080p, stop spreading FUD; In fact, the PS3 Blu-ray playback is considered superior to the BDP1000 vs the PS3 due to the BDP1000 cropping and soft image problem.
Not only are downloads speeds an issue, even if 100Mbs speeds were available to every single household, imagine running a server & network that is going to serve 10-15GB movies at 100Mbs to tens of thousands of households and only charge $10-15 per movie. For a 10GB HD movie, you will need 10 terabytes of bandwidth for every 1,000 people downloading. Now imagine a big release that expects sales in hundreds of thousands or in the millions in the first week.
Yes, but the article says it wasn't released publicaly until 1996, it would be assumed that BookLink Technologies had the technology and working on it well before it was released in 1994.
... Or you can get the 20GB PS3 w/ HDMI for $500, and install Yellow Dog Linux 5.0 on it with Myth TV, and you basically have almost the same thing. A Blu-ray media center , Nvidia graphics, USB ports, HDMI 1.3 with HDCP, etc. on the cheap.
Some of the facts aren't entirely straight:
Both HD-Premium (GT5) and HD-Classic (GT4 HD) will be pakaged and sold together, and Yamauchi has stated it will be "cheap" (so its not full retail price). Most of the pricing has not been decided. It will have cars and tracks included, but there will be over 770 cars and 51 extra tracks that can be downloaded. The game will be designed more like an MMO where will be cars clubs (aka Guilds), teams, custimizable logos and license plates, online-tournaments etc will be included.
The game will run at full 1080p(1980x1080) and 60fps.
Ferrari has also been confirmed for the game.
Official GT Hompage:
http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/sp/detail.do?articl e_id=376http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/sp/detail.do?articl e_id=375
There are a lot of people, including myself, that will refuse to buy an iPod merely because it is overexposed and everybody has it.
While there are few people that will argue that iPod isn't an excellent product, the ubiquitous nature of the iPod by everybody makes it uncool. Over exposure and popularity can also be negative, much like the New Beetle, Mini Cooper, and the Macarena. I think there is now a large group of people that want "anything but iPod", and wouldn't be caught dead with one.
>>Does this Sony Mylolife preinstall with its rootkit?
Ha ha ha! Oh gosh that's funny! That's really funny! Do you write your own material? Do you? Because that is so fresh. Does it come with rootkit presintalled? You know, I've, I've never heard anyone make that joke before. Hmm. You're the first. I've never heard anyone reference, reference that at Slashdot before. Because that's what they say on the Internet right? Isn't it? Does it come with rootkit presintalled? And, and yet you've taken that and used it out of context to insult Sony in this everyday situation. God what a clever, smart boy you must be, to come up with a joke like that all by yourself. That's so fresh too. Any, any Titanic jokes you want to throw at me too as long as we're hitting these phenomena at the height of their popularity. God you're so funny!
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"We don't think Nintendo Wii is a truly terrible console name, but it's an uncharacteristically risky choice, even for Nintendo. We admire its simplicity and its playfulness (the two i's represent multiplayer action, you see). But on the flip side, parents will have a hard time pronouncing it ("Nintendo...why?") and hardcore gamers will slam it..."
I think the biggest issue is that the name is not easily read or pronounced; many will likely read it out as "why". The fact that they have to tell you that its pronoucned "We" is a bad sign, product names should be straight-forward and to the point.
I agree the two "i"s and people playing together, as in "we" is clever, but that gimmik is quickly going to fade. The concept is very akin to Intel's Viiv (which I'm still not exactly sure how its pronounced), however good solid names that are easy to remember are far better then gimmicky names that are hard to read.
Also, "we" has too many conotations in different languages that are going to be much stronger than a game console, "we" as "oui/yes" in French, "we" as in pee, "we" as in small, etc. By far one of the worst product names in recent history, but they sure have gotten quite a bit of press from it.
Newsflash, MS to also buy Google, sez some guy on the internet!
Seriously I'm going to start making some wild declarations on my blog so I get get hits for my site. Honestly, Bona Fide Reviews doesn't even speak a buisness case for their speculation, instead it only talks about the console buisness (Sony and MS do a lot more than the Playstaion and Xbox), or what benefit MS would get finicially speaking in purchasing that would not be cheap (Sony has a market cap of ~$47 billion) and what return on investments that they would get, or even if the board at Sony would consider such a thought. It's a poorly written article that ends with "Stay tuned for the largest train wreck in console history"; the article is only worthy of the being on the forum section of TeamXbox.
If you libed in Japan you would know that Japan has one of the strictest recycling policies in the world. The very vast majority of electronics goods are recycled or resold (usually to other countries). Which makes sense because the cost of land for a landfill is astronomialy high.
In majority prefectures you have to dispose of electronic goods seperately from the rest of your garbage (which in turn becomes recycled). All electronic goods in Japan are required by law to have a certain percent recyclable. In addition, in Japan you have to seperate into "burnable/moeru gomi", "non-burnable/moenai gomi:, and recyclable garbage, and depending on where you like you have to further seperate organic waste (nama gomi), paper, glass (by color in my area), steel, aluminum, etc.
The price of Blu-ray wholsales for $17.95 (which is the same price as when DVDs first launched), the $23.45 price point is for new-releases only.
Being that the average profit for large retailer for DVDs is ~$4, I would expect Blu-ray disks to cost $20-$25 catalog titles, and $25-30 for new-releases depending on how agressively the retailer is trying to sell them. Many retailers (BestBuy, Walmart, etc) also also sell them close to cost to bring foot traffic into their stores.
IMHO, seems like a resonable price for 1080p movies, the title of this thread should really say "Blu-ray Discs Won't Be Cheap (but not that expensive either)"
Also correction for Zonk, the poster of this thread.
>>Movies like "Hitch" and "Terminator 2", etc. are catalog releases, and won't be sold wholesale at $23.95.
>>Also, for the statement "forthcoming price of Sony Blu-Ray HD DVDs", Blu-ray isn't HD-DVD. They are different formats.
I don't bear Sony's gme division any bad blood, but you won't find me buying any Sony CDs. Or any CDs from the RIAA, for that matter. The RIAA's has, in recent years, proven themselves unworthy of my trust, my respect, and my dollar.
I'm sticking to indy artists that torrent and http their stuff, as well as my existing CD collection, and CDs I buy at shows.
My view is that we should be supporting the artists while screwing the middlemen. That's the only way to rid ourselves of the middlemen.
Please, mod parent down. . .
Clearly off-topic. I'm tired of every topic in/. being hijacked by people's personal agenda. i.e. How Patents/DRM sucks, or how MS sucks, or how Apple's proprietary shit is the bee's knees, and Sony's isn't. It's all fine when it's on-topic and relevent, but can we please have an intelligent discussion rather than digressing into irrelevent bashing?
Actually, Holographics Media is likely the generaton after Blu-ray/HD-DVD. The HVD alliance does not even have plans to release HVD-Roms until around 2009. It's also very unlikely they can release the players and the media at an affordable cost within this generation.
You might also note that companies that are inveting in holographic media are the same as the ones investing in Blu-ray/HD-DVD, including Sony, Toshiba and Matsushita.
"Sony and some major Japanese electronics companies are studying holographic storage to replace HD-DVDs and Blu-ray Discs. Sony wants to develop next-next generation storage technologies and we can say that our collinear solution is getting very popular," Kageyama said.
The article is rather sensationalist, it is NOT a competitor to wireless USB or Bluetooth 3.0. In fact, it should be a complement rather then a rival. Transferjet can only broadcast 3mm.
Its meant to be a new way of interacting and transferring data. For instance you would be able to tap your TV, Computer, or Cellphone with your digital camera and the data would be transfered. Being its very short-range it won't be meant for wireless devices such as harddrives or headsets, but rater something that works in conjunction.
Beyond the bandwidth limitations on the consumer-end there are severe logistical issues that need to be addressed on the server-end before downloadable content is viable.
Consider that on a DVDs release they sell in the millions (tens of millions for popular titles). Currently Blu-ray is a drop in the bucket in scale compared to DVD, but we are still talking of hundreds of thousands in sale during the first week (and it should grow significantly higher as format is more widely adopted).
Now consider serving up 15GB-50GB movies per customer for a HD movie.
Even at 10GBs, we are talking about 10 terabytes of bandwidth for every 1,000 customers. 1 Petabytes of bandwidth for every 100,000 in sales.
Now imagine if you're only making ~$10 per HD movie download (Xbox Live HD rentals are $6). You are only talking in around $10k per 1,000 customers just to pay for 10 terabytes of bandwidth. This is before paying for other network costs, or the studios/artist/directors take on it, or paying for licensing fees.
Digital downloads make little sense for HD movies for the near future. CD sales still outstrip iTunes sales six-to-one even without these technical hurdles. Digital downloads for standard definition is probably much more realistic, but even that is being challenged by optical media. Sony is planing on having MP4 encoded versions of the movie on Blu-ray so that they can rip to their PSP without encoding. Fox plans on doing the same with DVDs using WMV (having a pre-encoded file so you don't have to rip).
Honestly, please stop using bolds everywhere and words like "IDDIIIIIOOOOOTS" (negates the point of bolds when half your submission is bolded). You're comments should be strong enough on the value of your words not by shoving them down everyone's throats by over the top formatting.
One thing I wish Wikipedia would do is cache the citations; if the citations are made to a website. I've noticed a slightly out-of-date wiki entry would usually have a good majority of their citations lead to pages that no longer exist. I'm sure there are legal and technical issues that make it difficult, however, transparency of works cited is crucial.
You are referring to the Lupo 3L TDI; except the vehicle roughly has the power & dimensions of an AMC Gremlin; (61hp & 14.5 seconds to hit 60 mph), and is impractical for roads that rely on highway driving. Also the car was based on the all-aluminum Audi A2 and was incredibly expensive to make (it weighs 1,000 lbs less then a Golf TDI at 1,882 lbs).
What this X-prize needs to do is make a 100mpg car that people can actually use and make an impact; not low-volume off specialty cars that are impractical for most people.
This is actually an incredibly old study from a CNW market research which is shady for-hire "market research" group that promotes the views of the client (Think about all those Microsoft-funded studies depicted Linux being incredibly expensive).
http://www.cnwmr.com/
http://www.cnwmarketingresearch.com/
Here's the new Flow video trailer with Austin Wintory's music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4xo6qyXbzc&eurl=
You can see the difference between 1080p and 1080i, the biggest difference is that most 1080i HDTV does not display at a full 1920x1080. This is compounded with high-motion video content which progressive is far superior then interlaced (and yes you can see artifacts). Also, 1080p players are not $1,000, both HD-DVD and Blu-ray have players in the $500 range (least of which the PS3, 360+add-on and Toshiba's entry-level HD_DVD player). Also, starting next year, all 1080p sets will become the norm and are already showing up in the $1k level (Westinghouse 1080p LCD, and Vizio has 46" 1080p set for $2k)
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PS3 already has full-JAVA support via Blu-ray (also you can install Linux)
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Blu-ray spec requires that all Blu-ray players have Java(J2ME, JavaTV API, etc.) due to future interactive menus, bonus material, etc will be done entirely in JAVA.
This is the core reason of Microsoft's opposition to Blu-ray and support of HD-DVD(which uses MS's iHD instead of JAVA) being that having a machine that runs JAVA by default and in every home can be very scary to MS.
So you shoiuld be able to make BD-J games on Blu-ray and have it play perfectly fine on the PS3 or any other Blu-ray player.
http://www.oreillynet.com/mac/blog/2005/10/we_lov
>> That would be an insightful comment, except that it's completely wrong. You can buy the Samsung BDP1000 Blu-Ray player for LESS than a playstation 3 (if you can even get your hands on a playstation 3), and the Samsung outputs at proper 1080p resolution. The playstation 3 does not.
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You cannot buy Samsung BDP1000 Blu-Ray for less then a PS3, especially compared to the $500 PS3, which is just as good as the 60GB as far as a Blu-ray is concerned.
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Samsung+BDP10
http://shopper.cnet.com/Samsung_BD_P1000/4014-646
Also, the PS3 DOES output at proper 1080p, stop spreading FUD; In fact, the PS3 Blu-ray playback is considered superior to the BDP1000 vs the PS3 due to the BDP1000 cropping and soft image problem.
http://dvd.themanroom.com/dvd-newsview.php?id=003
Here are some Links showing more of Linux running on the PS3.
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http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showpo...4&postcoun
http://rian.s26.xrea.com/
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35
Not only are downloads speeds an issue, even if 100Mbs speeds were available to every single household, imagine running a server & network that is going to serve 10-15GB movies at 100Mbs to tens of thousands of households and only charge $10-15 per movie. For a 10GB HD movie, you will need 10 terabytes of bandwidth for every 1,000 people downloading. Now imagine a big release that expects sales in hundreds of thousands or in the millions in the first week.
Yes, but the article says it wasn't released publicaly until 1996, it would be assumed that BookLink Technologies had the technology and working on it well before it was released in 1994.
... Or you can get the 20GB PS3 w/ HDMI for $500, and install Yellow Dog Linux 5.0 on it with Myth TV, and you basically have almost the same thing. A Blu-ray media center , Nvidia graphics, USB ports, HDMI 1.3 with HDCP, etc. on the cheap.
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http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/16
Some of the facts aren't entirely straight: Both HD-Premium (GT5) and HD-Classic (GT4 HD) will be pakaged and sold together, and Yamauchi has stated it will be "cheap" (so its not full retail price). Most of the pricing has not been decided. It will have cars and tracks included, but there will be over 770 cars and 51 extra tracks that can be downloaded. The game will be designed more like an MMO where will be cars clubs (aka Guilds), teams, custimizable logos and license plates, online-tournaments etc will be included. The game will run at full 1080p(1980x1080) and 60fps. Ferrari has also been confirmed for the game. Official GT Hompage: http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/sp/detail.do?articl e_id=376
http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/sp/detail.do?articl e_id=375
There are a lot of people, including myself, that will refuse to buy an iPod merely because it is overexposed and everybody has it.
While there are few people that will argue that iPod isn't an excellent product, the ubiquitous nature of the iPod by everybody makes it uncool. Over exposure and popularity can also be negative, much like the New Beetle, Mini Cooper, and the Macarena. I think there is now a large group of people that want "anything but iPod", and wouldn't be caught dead with one.
>>Does this Sony Mylolife preinstall with its rootkit?
Ha ha ha! Oh gosh that's funny! That's really funny! Do you write your own material? Do you? Because that is so fresh. Does it come with rootkit presintalled? You know, I've, I've never heard anyone make that joke before. Hmm. You're the first. I've never heard anyone reference, reference that at Slashdot before. Because that's what they say on the Internet right? Isn't it? Does it come with rootkit presintalled? And, and yet you've taken that and used it out of context to insult Sony in this everyday situation. God what a clever, smart boy you must be, to come up with a joke like that all by yourself. That's so fresh too. Any, any Titanic jokes you want to throw at me too as long as we're hitting these phenomena at the height of their popularity. God you're so funny!
"We don't think Nintendo Wii is a truly terrible console name, but it's an uncharacteristically risky choice, even for Nintendo. We admire its simplicity and its playfulness (the two i's represent multiplayer action, you see). But on the flip side, parents will have a hard time pronouncing it ("Nintendo...why?") and hardcore gamers will slam it ..."
I think the biggest issue is that the name is not easily read or pronounced; many will likely read it out as "why". The fact that they have to tell you that its pronoucned "We" is a bad sign, product names should be straight-forward and to the point.
I agree the two "i"s and people playing together, as in "we" is clever, but that gimmik is quickly going to fade. The concept is very akin to Intel's Viiv (which I'm still not exactly sure how its pronounced), however good solid names that are easy to remember are far better then gimmicky names that are hard to read.
Also, "we" has too many conotations in different languages that are going to be much stronger than a game console, "we" as "oui/yes" in French, "we" as in pee, "we" as in small, etc. By far one of the worst product names in recent history, but they sure have gotten quite a bit of press from it.
Newsflash, MS to also buy Google, sez some guy on the internet!
Seriously I'm going to start making some wild declarations on my blog so I get get hits for my site. Honestly, Bona Fide Reviews doesn't even speak a buisness case for their speculation, instead it only talks about the console buisness (Sony and MS do a lot more than the Playstaion and Xbox), or what benefit MS would get finicially speaking in purchasing that would not be cheap (Sony has a market cap of ~$47 billion) and what return on investments that they would get, or even if the board at Sony would consider such a thought. It's a poorly written article that ends with "Stay tuned for the largest train wreck in console history"; the article is only worthy of the being on the forum section of TeamXbox.
If you libed in Japan you would know that Japan has one of the strictest recycling policies in the world. The very vast majority of electronics goods are recycled or resold (usually to other countries). Which makes sense because the cost of land for a landfill is astronomialy high.
In majority prefectures you have to dispose of electronic goods seperately from the rest of your garbage (which in turn becomes recycled). All electronic goods in Japan are required by law to have a certain percent recyclable. In addition, in Japan you have to seperate into "burnable/moeru gomi", "non-burnable/moenai gomi:, and recyclable garbage, and depending on where you like you have to further seperate organic waste (nama gomi), paper, glass (by color in my area), steel, aluminum, etc.
You forgot Animal Crossing on the Gamecube. You could get a NES in the game where you could play emulated classic NES games like Punch Out.
The price of Blu-ray wholsales for $17.95 (which is the same price as when DVDs first launched), the $23.45 price point is for new-releases only.
Being that the average profit for large retailer for DVDs is ~$4, I would expect Blu-ray disks to cost $20-$25 catalog titles, and $25-30 for new-releases depending on how agressively the retailer is trying to sell them. Many retailers (BestBuy, Walmart, etc) also also sell them close to cost to bring foot traffic into their stores.
IMHO, seems like a resonable price for 1080p movies, the title of this thread should really say "Blu-ray Discs Won't Be Cheap (but not that expensive either)"
Also correction for Zonk, the poster of this thread.
>>Movies like "Hitch" and "Terminator 2", etc. are catalog releases, and won't be sold wholesale at $23.95.
>>Also, for the statement "forthcoming price of Sony Blu-Ray HD DVDs", Blu-ray isn't HD-DVD. They are different formats.
I don't bear Sony's gme division any bad blood, but you won't find me buying any Sony CDs. Or any CDs from the RIAA, for that matter. The RIAA's has, in recent years, proven themselves unworthy of my trust, my respect, and my dollar.
/. being hijacked by people's personal agenda. i.e. How Patents/DRM sucks, or how MS sucks, or how Apple's proprietary shit is the bee's knees, and Sony's isn't. It's all fine when it's on-topic and relevent, but can we please have an intelligent discussion rather than digressing into irrelevent bashing?
I'm sticking to indy artists that torrent and http their stuff, as well as my existing CD collection, and CDs I buy at shows.
My view is that we should be supporting the artists while screwing the middlemen. That's the only way to rid ourselves of the middlemen.
Please, mod parent down. . .
Clearly off-topic. I'm tired of every topic in
Disney is a backer of Blu-ray, not HD-DVD.
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http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,118880,
While Disney may have had a hand in the development of iHD, the bond with Microsoft I don't think is really that loyal.
Actually, Holographics Media is likely the generaton after Blu-ray/HD-DVD. The HVD alliance does not even have plans to release HVD-Roms until around 2009. It's also very unlikely they can release the players and the media at an affordable cost within this generation.
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You might also note that companies that are inveting in holographic media are the same as the ones investing in Blu-ray/HD-DVD, including Sony, Toshiba and Matsushita.
http://www.manifest-tech.com/media_dvd/dvd_holo.h
Quote from Optoware president (HVD Alliance):
"Sony and some major Japanese electronics companies are studying holographic storage to replace HD-DVDs and Blu-ray Discs. Sony wants to develop next-next generation storage technologies and we can say that our collinear solution is getting very popular," Kageyama said.
http://www.pcworldmalta.com/news/2004/Aug/271.htm