I agree. GeOW has great coop, best since Heretic2/Quake1 imho. Not a fan of the Halo series. Most of my friends are sick of competing online and we like to work together after a long day at work.
Assuming they have PCI-E. Yes, good AGP cards exist. But if they have AGP, do they have equivalent system memory? If so, is their processor up-to-date? Do they have a 400w+ power supply? Can this $600 PC card do HDR+AA effects?
I don't want to start a flamewar. It's just that sometimes I think PCs carry a certain illustion of upgradability. At some point, you junk your car and start over (forklift upgrade). I've been through the card->motherboard->cpu/memory PC upgrade dependency treadmill enough times to "pshaw" at simple "PCs are extensible" statement.
South Park makes fun of everything and everyone. So what.
That's what happens when you do too much LSD in college and years-later land a show deal on Comedy Central. The former also explains why everyone dies with their head exploding, acid burnout creates some fear of head explosions? - Free Hat (Spielberg's head explodes) - Nintendo Wii episode (Future people have guns that shoot darts. The darts cause a delayed head explosion) - Chewbacca defense (a juror's head explodes after Cochran makes no sense)
It would be really great if everyone just made fun of real issues by referencing a show created by LSD burn-outs. That would be su-per, even super cereal. Trey and Matt can parody things but haven't yet tried to make real art. I love their show but even mentioning SP at at time like this is like making a fart joke at a funeral.
His book and movie An Inconvenient Truth was released. Thus, why he's filed under policy. Maybe some people disagree with his views but at least he's trying (at personal-image risk I might add).
I do not wish it to hit $500 a gallon. I merely said it would be interesting. If food was that expensive, we'd grow more of our own food and have less time to do other things, I suppose. This is what I mean, the impacts are listing in my (non-economic major) mind.
How about the games part in games.slashdot.org? Even RSS readers and external links would give you the chance to hover over it and see the URL. If already surfing on/., the "Games:" gives it away. I guess the only way it's a mystery is the incoming surfer from an external link with their status bar turned off or their hyperspeed surfing switch turned on. As in, you don't see the URL before you click.
I agree, his point was artists doing the art. Although I wonder if Gimp's script-fu goes into this space, I've never done anything with it. My best guess is that it's perl doing filters which is procedural effects maybe and not really creating game assets.
It was no more a design decision than a hurricane is summoned by weather victims. There was a problem with the/. tables, story posted yesterday. Too small of a parent field (24-bit int).
I agree in a sad nod. It would be interesting to see gas hit $500 a gallon. At some point, I'd ride my bike and tell my boss to get bent if she/he said I smelled. Although then how would my milk hit the store? Maybe natural gas, etc.
I considered buying a Civic Hybrid but even if I did, I would feel the need to unbuy my neighbor's Hummer H2 for them. Hyrdogen economy by 2030 I hope.
But this is the biggest load of new age bullshit I've heard in years.
No need to get all worked up, you'll never see it.
I'd say with enough memory on the user's machine, there would be no concern about storing information twice. Just as a BS example, imagine they get something like atomic memory working where a sugar-cube sized device can cache all the information we have. Now imagine that we have perfected quantum teleportation (I know, I know). All data could be replicated and cached instantly and there would be no delay in keeping the massive distributed grid sync'd. In this case, I nod at the OP. The data is just here or even there. It's all just existing.
Of course, the flipside is that tech will just complicate itself into a giant mess. And even though we have instant ISPs, we can't find the Linux driver to make our quantum modem work. Ok, so then you find the driver but the massive amount of traffic causes your 42.0 yottabyte/var parition to fill up with logs because you were running with DEBUG logging.
Insightful indeed, from a consumer standpoint. However your quick run-down hints at the fact that all these things are sequels. Zune is the Ipod II (never mind design differences). I respect the videos I've seen of the Zune, they seem to have done a good job. However, it's not until you play with a MS product all the way through until you see the missing 10%.
Back on topic, FF12 is absolutely incredible. Star Wars (love it or hate it) is the big-production sci-fi series. LoTR is the big-production fantasy movie. Princess Mononoke (and his other films) is the anime "combination of Star Wars and Lawrence of Arabia". FF12 reminds me of all these media leaders. It's fun, it's huge and it's evidence that developers can crank out neat tricks on the PS2. When the 360 and PS3 have been out for 5 years, we'll see the same thing happen as all the problems and tricks already exist and developers can reuse work/knowledge.
The first boss in XII had me jumping up and down in glee. It wasn't even significant, it was just super believable. "That's what Thunder 1 looks like!? How wonderfully subtle!" I peer into the game design and my experience doesn't get ruined. If you appreciate gamedev work, it's a reference piece (although 100% scores on the Internet is going overboard).
FF3 was really great on the NES (although my translated rom got garbled 1/2 way through). The DS port looks ever-so faithful that I might have to go back and see the dialog that doesn't look like ASCII hearts and British pound symbols.
ATI has the hardware sans software/marketing. Nvidia has the software and marketing. Although... recently their drivers have gone the ATI route and are all.NET bloated, and since most *nix distros make ATI drivers easy to install I guess the gap has shrunk a bit. The 8800's numbers look really good, it's impressive. But since D3D 10 isn't out, I don't know what graphics I would be accelerating, dx9 I guess which cheaper cards do right now for less power. This is early adopter stuff. No, I think I'll early adopt an 8-core Mac Pro and get the full trendy-RMA experience like only Apple can deliver.
Here's some counter-point. My friend has a PC and he wants a new graphics card. He has an AGP motherboard. So now he has to get a PCI-E board, new memory and a new CPU (possibly). He priced out the parts and ended up getting a completely new rig. I understand drop-in and I understand the weird Mac video Bios reality. But another reality is, PCs are not always a case of "drop any piece of standard PC hardware". Worrying about weird compatibility issues could also mean PC-y things like DDR vs DDR2, cpu socket type and other upgrade path eventualities.
Wired story turned out to be self-admittidly an exaggeration. PS3 is like 7-9% of Sony's business, said the next issue of Wired. Mag writers, eesh. Cover story about the PS3 one month and then correct themselves on letters to the editor in a small paragraph in the following month.
Hey, I hate the rootkits, DRM, high price too but I want evolution. The more mankind moves forward with tools (even if it's entertainment), the better. I really wanted to like my 360, but I still can't fast-forward MP3s... bad design is a complete relationship killer for me. But I don't hate MS. OneNote was awesome but I think they killed that... I just hate most of their other stuff for reasons that require lots of explanation.
So, you've been waiting for this day.. and if you RTFA, the day isn't here yet. The first commenter gets mod'd troll and he brings up the very topical point that Apple news gets blown out of proportion. I hope he gets mod'd back because it's a perfect non-trolly response to this troll.
I was about to type up why OSX is better as a consumer *nix desktop OS but I don't care anymore. I give up on prejudice OSist people. Some people just don't want to try something out for themselves, for fear of switching "teams".
The quote 50 dkp minus is a reference to numerous ytmnd sites featuring a sound sample captured from Teamspeak/Ventrillo (two popular voice chat programs WoW-ers use) where the leader of a Raid (40 people running through a dungeon to kill bosses/enemies) yells at his players. The yeller of "50 DKP Minus!" is a player named Dives from a guild named Wipe Club (the term wipe means to have all your party members die, ie: wipe-out). It other words, it's a quote-joke.
The term DKP is from the EQ days (so I've heard). Because items (loot) are rare and hard to get, people work for them. In a group of 40 people that run (go) a lot, people develop these kinds of systems to keep things fair. In the DKP system, you kill bosses for points and turn them in for items. This might sound ridiculous but it's similar to reward-points on your credit card. The more you use/play, the more stuff you get and you thereby have helped the group grow.
Dives talks with a very excited accent and sounds like a crazed Indian general yelling out spastic orders. His voice is easily impersonated and his quotes work as a faux-penalty. For example, if someone kicked you in the shin, you might quote Seinfeld and say "no soup for you", even though they don't want soup. So in this way, some guild say "50 DKP MINUS!" when someone screws up even though they don't use the DKP system.
All in all, it's all complicated to the outsider because it's a deep hobby. Personally I think DKP is overly-complex and I like Suicide Kings better. It's simple, you suicide to get an item and fall to the end of the line. If you don't suicide, you stay at the front of the line and the next person chooses whether to suicide or not. Much better imo, but I'm sure others would argue that it's too simple and it has problems.
Maybe you are saying this because you like your Dell computer. Maybe you like your Xbox 360 or future-Wii. Please realize that getting rid of Sony would only make these other systems more expensive. Your wish for Sony's death is a wish for higher prices for yourself. If the PS3 vanished, Microsoft could charge more for their products, claiming the Wii doesn't compete (which it wouldn't in some respects). So be careful what you wish for. Wired says Sony is betting the farm, I don't see it. The PS sold so much more than the Xboxen and 7th-gen consoles are the same fight as it ever was.
Perhaps when it's connected to "the network" outside of a firewall. I've seen this on SP1 and on SP2 (firewall off)..exe files just start showing up in the repl directory and all this weird stuff happens. It's pretty crazy. Happened in less than 3 minutes. I honestly don't know how they know. They scan all the time? What are the chances? Is everyone scanning? It's really frightening, all that scanning traffic.
It's more like adware. The adware uses your IP address to guess your location. So in this way, it reminds me of spyware that looks for usage patterns for a reason I'd classify as evil. Radio did this and some people got XM. Would I pay $80 for a game that has no ads in it? I dunno.
From that gamasutra article:
"you are always going have that hardcore vocal minority" who don't want in-game ads.
When we start seeing Puppy Chow ads in GTA4, I think the vocal minority is going to be more vocal. When you go to the theater and pay $9 for a movie that has ads in the beginning, are you more or less satisfied with going to the movies? Do you think carefully about revenue and "the hard transition" that the movie industry is going through dealing with P2P networks? Or do you think that some boardroom somewhere saw a $ figure as part of a new stragetic initiative? Personally, I think people will just wait for the DVD. And then when the DVD has ads on it, will wait for it to appear on TV and Tivo-strip the ads.
Because ads are really, really annoying these days. Hear about some feminine hygene product, male performance product, ads about depression, ads about some old age drug, some screaming guy selling cars, some screaming guy selling home furniture or fear marketing. "If you don't buy Mr. Clean, your kids are going to play hide-n-seek around the toilet and die from bateriea!" Great, now we have kids with allergies because they are raised bleached.
This is pointless, I'm obviously wrong. Reality TV exists so people must just love the mainstream machine. Go, go game ads.
Good post. If anything it tells me I need to travel outside of the US more. We're in a cultural feedback loop here and it's not our fault. But I'm doing my part and trying to visit the Netherlands next year. Lots of places to see and get my own perspective. I met a guy once who was 57 who had never left Florida, USA. I think that's insane.
Good point xiong. WoW is kinda over-hyped (from a certain angle), but at the same time it's been a great test of how far the technology and genre can go. Blizz has all the money they need and yet are not able to keep up with the demand. They ordered like 2400 high end dells at once (before the china rollout). They have some 100+ shards. They cluster, they try to manage patches and a lot of it doesn't work. That's interesting to me as a test of current tech. Even with unbelievable revenue, there is still patch day, there is still downtime.
And then there's game design. In short, I think their challenge is unique because of the quantity and breadth of players.
Yeah, I know it's not floating. It's up on some steps... but it's glowing and magical, I guess I should have taken that out. My point is, it's an understandable crutch of sorts (but still a crutch).
That's pretty cool. I didn't know they had pcmcia sata cards and external sata drives. In that case sata would be much faster (although I don't know how sata compares to fw as far as offloading cpu usage??). I wonder if those plugs would snap easily as compared to fw cables... hrm... more reading...
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Myth. He never said that. Spread the word.
I agree. GeOW has great coop, best since Heretic2/Quake1 imho. Not a fan of the Halo series. Most of my friends are sick of competing online and we like to work together after a long day at work.
Assuming they have PCI-E. Yes, good AGP cards exist. But if they have AGP, do they have equivalent system memory? If so, is their processor up-to-date? Do they have a 400w+ power supply? Can this $600 PC card do HDR+AA effects?
I don't want to start a flamewar. It's just that sometimes I think PCs carry a certain illustion of upgradability. At some point, you junk your car and start over (forklift upgrade). I've been through the card->motherboard->cpu/memory PC upgrade dependency treadmill enough times to "pshaw" at simple "PCs are extensible" statement.
South Park makes fun of everything and everyone. So what.
That's what happens when you do too much LSD in college and years-later land a show deal on Comedy Central. The former also explains why everyone dies with their head exploding, acid burnout creates some fear of head explosions?
- Free Hat (Spielberg's head explodes)
- Nintendo Wii episode (Future people have guns that shoot darts. The darts cause a delayed head explosion)
- Chewbacca defense (a juror's head explodes after Cochran makes no sense)
It would be really great if everyone just made fun of real issues by referencing a show created by LSD burn-outs. That would be su-per, even super cereal. Trey and Matt can parody things but haven't yet tried to make real art. I love their show but even mentioning SP at at time like this is like making a fart joke at a funeral.
His book and movie An Inconvenient Truth was released. Thus, why he's filed under policy. Maybe some people disagree with his views but at least he's trying (at personal-image risk I might add).
I do not wish it to hit $500 a gallon. I merely said it would be interesting. If food was that expensive, we'd grow more of our own food and have less time to do other things, I suppose. This is what I mean, the impacts are listing in my (non-economic major) mind.
How about the games part in games.slashdot.org? Even RSS readers and external links would give you the chance to hover over it and see the URL. If already surfing on /., the "Games:" gives it away. I guess the only way it's a mystery is the incoming surfer from an external link with their status bar turned off or their hyperspeed surfing switch turned on. As in, you don't see the URL before you click.
Beats theregister.co.uk headlines for sure:
Wikipedia Chicken attacked = an article I'm guessing is about wikipedia vandalism, I read it and I still don't get it.
Alien pope abductors want open Wi-Fi access = Wow. Case and point?
Sorry for horse.isDead = true; horse.beat();
I agree, his point was artists doing the art. Although I wonder if Gimp's script-fu goes into this space, I've never done anything with it. My best guess is that it's perl doing filters which is procedural effects maybe and not really creating game assets.
It was no more a design decision than a hurricane is summoned by weather victims. There was a problem with the /. tables, story posted yesterday. Too small of a parent field (24-bit int).
I agree in a sad nod. It would be interesting to see gas hit $500 a gallon. At some point, I'd ride my bike and tell my boss to get bent if she/he said I smelled. Although then how would my milk hit the store? Maybe natural gas, etc.
I considered buying a Civic Hybrid but even if I did, I would feel the need to unbuy my neighbor's Hummer H2 for them. Hyrdogen economy by 2030 I hope.
No need to get all worked up, you'll never see it.
I'd say with enough memory on the user's machine, there would be no concern about storing information twice. Just as a BS example, imagine they get something like atomic memory working where a sugar-cube sized device can cache all the information we have. Now imagine that we have perfected quantum teleportation (I know, I know). All data could be replicated and cached instantly and there would be no delay in keeping the massive distributed grid sync'd. In this case, I nod at the OP. The data is just here or even there. It's all just existing.
Of course, the flipside is that tech will just complicate itself into a giant mess. And even though we have instant ISPs, we can't find the Linux driver to make our quantum modem work. Ok, so then you find the driver but the massive amount of traffic causes your 42.0 yottabyte
Insightful indeed, from a consumer standpoint. However your quick run-down hints at the fact that all these things are sequels. Zune is the Ipod II (never mind design differences). I respect the videos I've seen of the Zune, they seem to have done a good job. However, it's not until you play with a MS product all the way through until you see the missing 10%.
Back on topic, FF12 is absolutely incredible. Star Wars (love it or hate it) is the big-production sci-fi series. LoTR is the big-production fantasy movie. Princess Mononoke (and his other films) is the anime "combination of Star Wars and Lawrence of Arabia". FF12 reminds me of all these media leaders. It's fun, it's huge and it's evidence that developers can crank out neat tricks on the PS2. When the 360 and PS3 have been out for 5 years, we'll see the same thing happen as all the problems and tricks already exist and developers can reuse work/knowledge.
The first boss in XII had me jumping up and down in glee. It wasn't even significant, it was just super believable. "That's what Thunder 1 looks like!? How wonderfully subtle!" I peer into the game design and my experience doesn't get ruined. If you appreciate gamedev work, it's a reference piece (although 100% scores on the Internet is going overboard).
FF3 was really great on the NES (although my translated rom got garbled 1/2 way through). The DS port looks ever-so faithful that I might have to go back and see the dialog that doesn't look like ASCII hearts and British pound symbols.
ATI has the hardware sans software/marketing. Nvidia has the software and marketing. Although ... recently their drivers have gone the ATI route and are all .NET bloated, and since most *nix distros make ATI drivers easy to install I guess the gap has shrunk a bit. The 8800's numbers look really good, it's impressive. But since D3D 10 isn't out, I don't know what graphics I would be accelerating, dx9 I guess which cheaper cards do right now for less power. This is early adopter stuff. No, I think I'll early adopt an 8-core Mac Pro and get the full trendy-RMA experience like only Apple can deliver.
Good point on the mac video bios.
Here's some counter-point. My friend has a PC and he wants a new graphics card. He has an AGP motherboard. So now he has to get a PCI-E board, new memory and a new CPU (possibly). He priced out the parts and ended up getting a completely new rig. I understand drop-in and I understand the weird Mac video Bios reality. But another reality is, PCs are not always a case of "drop any piece of standard PC hardware". Worrying about weird compatibility issues could also mean PC-y things like DDR vs DDR2, cpu socket type and other upgrade path eventualities.
Wired story turned out to be self-admittidly an exaggeration. PS3 is like 7-9% of Sony's business, said the next issue of Wired. Mag writers, eesh. Cover story about the PS3 one month and then correct themselves on letters to the editor in a small paragraph in the following month.
... bad design is a complete relationship killer for me. But I don't hate MS. OneNote was awesome but I think they killed that... I just hate most of their other stuff for reasons that require lots of explanation.
Hey, I hate the rootkits, DRM, high price too but I want evolution. The more mankind moves forward with tools (even if it's entertainment), the better. I really wanted to like my 360, but I still can't fast-forward MP3s
If the PS3 turns out to be a 105% 360, then boo.
So, you've been waiting for this day .. and if you RTFA, the day isn't here yet. The first commenter gets mod'd troll and he brings up the very topical point that Apple news gets blown out of proportion. I hope he gets mod'd back because it's a perfect non-trolly response to this troll.
I was about to type up why OSX is better as a consumer *nix desktop OS but I don't care anymore. I give up on prejudice OSist people. Some people just don't want to try something out for themselves, for fear of switching "teams".
DKP = dragon kill points
The quote 50 dkp minus is a reference to numerous ytmnd sites featuring a sound sample captured from Teamspeak/Ventrillo (two popular voice chat programs WoW-ers use) where the leader of a Raid (40 people running through a dungeon to kill bosses/enemies) yells at his players. The yeller of "50 DKP Minus!" is a player named Dives from a guild named Wipe Club (the term wipe means to have all your party members die, ie: wipe-out). It other words, it's a quote-joke.
The term DKP is from the EQ days (so I've heard). Because items (loot) are rare and hard to get, people work for them. In a group of 40 people that run (go) a lot, people develop these kinds of systems to keep things fair. In the DKP system, you kill bosses for points and turn them in for items. This might sound ridiculous but it's similar to reward-points on your credit card. The more you use/play, the more stuff you get and you thereby have helped the group grow.
Dives talks with a very excited accent and sounds like a crazed Indian general yelling out spastic orders. His voice is easily impersonated and his quotes work as a faux-penalty. For example, if someone kicked you in the shin, you might quote Seinfeld and say "no soup for you", even though they don't want soup. So in this way, some guild say "50 DKP MINUS!" when someone screws up even though they don't use the DKP system.
All in all, it's all complicated to the outsider because it's a deep hobby. Personally I think DKP is overly-complex and I like Suicide Kings better. It's simple, you suicide to get an item and fall to the end of the line. If you don't suicide, you stay at the front of the line and the next person chooses whether to suicide or not. Much better imo, but I'm sure others would argue that it's too simple and it has problems.
Maybe you are saying this because you like your Dell computer. Maybe you like your Xbox 360 or future-Wii. Please realize that getting rid of Sony would only make these other systems more expensive. Your wish for Sony's death is a wish for higher prices for yourself. If the PS3 vanished, Microsoft could charge more for their products, claiming the Wii doesn't compete (which it wouldn't in some respects). So be careful what you wish for. Wired says Sony is betting the farm, I don't see it. The PS sold so much more than the Xboxen and 7th-gen consoles are the same fight as it ever was.
From the iPod Gen 9 Manual, Section 5.6
When your iPod runs out of power there is an easy way to recharge it.
- Hold up your unit to the sky
- Scream "there can be only one"
- Wait for the charging icon to disappear during The Quickening process
Then we really would look like the people in the iPod ads, solid blackPerhaps when it's connected to "the network" outside of a firewall. I've seen this on SP1 and on SP2 (firewall off). .exe files just start showing up in the repl directory and all this weird stuff happens. It's pretty crazy. Happened in less than 3 minutes. I honestly don't know how they know. They scan all the time? What are the chances? Is everyone scanning? It's really frightening, all that scanning traffic.
From that gamasutra article:
When we start seeing Puppy Chow ads in GTA4, I think the vocal minority is going to be more vocal. When you go to the theater and pay $9 for a movie that has ads in the beginning, are you more or less satisfied with going to the movies? Do you think carefully about revenue and "the hard transition" that the movie industry is going through dealing with P2P networks? Or do you think that some boardroom somewhere saw a $ figure as part of a new stragetic initiative? Personally, I think people will just wait for the DVD. And then when the DVD has ads on it, will wait for it to appear on TV and Tivo-strip the ads.
Because ads are really, really annoying these days. Hear about some feminine hygene product, male performance product, ads about depression, ads about some old age drug, some screaming guy selling cars, some screaming guy selling home furniture or fear marketing. "If you don't buy Mr. Clean, your kids are going to play hide-n-seek around the toilet and die from bateriea!" Great, now we have kids with allergies because they are raised bleached.
This is pointless, I'm obviously wrong. Reality TV exists so people must just love the mainstream machine. Go, go game ads.
Good post. If anything it tells me I need to travel outside of the US more. We're in a cultural feedback loop here and it's not our fault. But I'm doing my part and trying to visit the Netherlands next year. Lots of places to see and get my own perspective. I met a guy once who was 57 who had never left Florida, USA. I think that's insane.
Good point xiong. WoW is kinda over-hyped (from a certain angle), but at the same time it's been a great test of how far the technology and genre can go. Blizz has all the money they need and yet are not able to keep up with the demand. They ordered like 2400 high end dells at once (before the china rollout). They have some 100+ shards. They cluster, they try to manage patches and a lot of it doesn't work. That's interesting to me as a test of current tech. Even with unbelievable revenue, there is still patch day, there is still downtime.
And then there's game design. In short, I think their challenge is unique because of the quantity and breadth of players.
Yeah, I know it's not floating. It's up on some steps ... but it's glowing and magical, I guess I should have taken that out. My point is, it's an understandable crutch of sorts (but still a crutch).
That's pretty cool. I didn't know they had pcmcia sata cards and external sata drives. In that case sata would be much faster (although I don't know how sata compares to fw as far as offloading cpu usage??). I wonder if those plugs would snap easily as compared to fw cables ... hrm ... more reading ...