Yep, non-Apple. SSE3-only, but it works. You were right regarding the kernel for SSE2-only machines though -- that is how kernels previous to 10.4.5 were built, but 10.4.5 and on required SSE3.
I agree though; the fervor to get it running everywhere is a bit much, but seeing "Athlon 64 X2" in About This Mac is fun regardless.
...all of these "hacked" instances of Mac OS X 10.4.x running on non-Apple hardware are using a hacked kernel from Mac OS X 10.4.3 (!) from the development systems...
Nope, sorry. The latest ones are using the Darwin 8.8.1 (aka 10.4.8) kernel. Built from public sources no less!
Be sure to kill Windows Sidebar!! We were testing a very Vista-capable machine, clean install, and noticed it was cranking away at CPU on idle. Exited Windows Sidebar, CPU usage dropped to ~4%.
From what I remember, PackageMaker (the utility to create said *.pkg files) has the framework in place for uninstall, but it's not done. So it seems its a future plan. But for today (and the future as far as anyone knows) no uninstall.
The source builds just as painlessly with VC7, and VC7.1 as well if you point it to iostreams.h and its family from VC7 (iostream.h et al were removed in VS2003)
It's funny you mention multiplayer... the development of JA2 originally had multiplayer code, and the remnants are all over the place. I'm currently volunteered as the "network researcher" at Bear's Pit Forum. We're missing a few headers that weren't part of the source, but someone is already contacting StrategyFirst about it.
Off-topic re: Mozilla, but this thread gives me the opportunity to say:
Screenshots!
Esp. if you're on Windows a hell of a long time. And even moreso if any of the testers filing reports don't know the common names of controls. Rather than a report saying "When I clicked the little dot thing, the thing with lines turned gray" you have a screenshot showing the radio button disabling a slider control, etc.
I... the two lines above, one right after the other, shake head, blink eyes
So you're a cokehead then? It's amazing what happens when you when you take a quote out of context. Seriously though, the entire line reads [don't be afraid to say what you want -- your slashdot karma isn't that important]. I doubt the author was purposely being contradictive. And no, I do not really think ch-chuck is a cokehead;-) )
Is it running super-slow all the time? I noticed when running (on a system almost identical to yours) that they used 'pseudo-culling' (for lack of a better word) in which when you zoom in or out, or traverse across to another area of the map, it had actually been drawing low-quality images offscreen. Upon changing view (most notable when zooming) it lags out redrawing the objects as "high quality". For the record, I've got a completely covered "Mayor's Tutorial" and once that goofy drawing is done, even at 1024, it still runs well.
To sign on to Hotmail (in IE 6 only?) or MSN Messenger, at least, you have to associate a Passport account with your XP user account
Not true - when a user account is first logged into XP, it pops up a cutesy little message - something like "Add your Passport account to XP!" You can dismiss that warning, and Passport stuff will still work fine. For the record, IE6 on XP right now, and I can get to Hotmail just fine.
Yeah, I saw this too, I've seen it a few times actually. It seems that Tools->Windows Update sometimes causes windowsupdate.microsoft.com to ID your OS/IE version incorrectly, because you'll notice that that message is on v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com (2000/XP only). Removing the v4 will bring you back to regular windowsupdate.
According to the standard, no. But then again, is Jane Teenybopper going to look for a little logo on the latest N*Sync/Backstreet Boys/Whatever CD? Nope! She'll see it, buy it, and that'll be it. It seems that when enough people unknowingly buy this junk and it won't work in certain devices is when you'll probably witness an uproar.
Unfortunately even in the US the 'toons are sometimes censored for "violent" content. Cartoons made in the '60's (or earlier), played for 30+ years (!), but starting around 1998 I noticed scenes being cut. Most notably, some of you may remember a Bugs 'toon where he and a hunting dog were running around. They end up underwater, the dog ends up in a sandwich (iirc) and at one point originally the dog gets shot in the face. The standard blackened face is all that happened to him, yet I saw this one a couple years ago with the entire scene cut out! Shameful really.
Nope! You know who the first person Joe Consumer will go to when his cheap-ass $5 XBOX controller doesn't work is? Microsoft. Regardless of how much everyone likes to hate MS here, the fact is, that's resources they'd be spending to tell Mr. J.C. that he bought a knockoff and that no it won't work properly. Geez a little kneejerk with the anticompetition statement eh? A fork doesn't have the ability to change function - it's always a fork. A cheaply made knockoff peripheral (See also: Item made specifically for use with another) could work improperly, and MS ends up having to deal with it.
AFAIK, this isn't how it works. CDRWin has two separate keys, ~20 characters each. As of recent versions, there were three possibilities for registering: 1. Keys are good, fully-functional program 2. Keys are bad, it says so, you might be left in 'demo' mode 3. Pirated keys/blacklisted keys will often appear to work properly, but you will burn nothing but coasters. Now, to your comment of "mistyping"...you'd have to get plenty of characters wrong to accidentally turn your valid key into one that gets detected as a pirated key. One of the more ingenious ways to manage piracy, if you ask me.
I agree, but I think there's another problem present. Many people want prettiness in games, often wrongly. For instance, what was the single most common thing heard when Diablo II came out? "Gah! 640x480 2D! This game sucks!" That was often by people who played it for a few minutes. Personally, Diablo II is one of my favorites. The problem is, the focus right now is on making pretty graphics and such, too small a percentage of people (relative to the entire game community) appreciates a truly good game.
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Yep, non-Apple. SSE3-only, but it works. You were right regarding the kernel for SSE2-only machines though -- that is how kernels previous to 10.4.5 were built, but 10.4.5 and on required SSE3.
I agree though; the fervor to get it running everywhere is a bit much, but seeing "Athlon 64 X2" in About This Mac is fun regardless.
...all of these "hacked" instances of Mac OS X 10.4.x running on non-Apple hardware are using a hacked kernel from Mac OS X 10.4.3 (!) from the development systems...
Nope, sorry. The latest ones are using the Darwin 8.8.1 (aka 10.4.8) kernel. Built from public sources no less!
Be sure to kill Windows Sidebar!! We were testing a very Vista-capable machine, clean install, and noticed it was cranking away at CPU on idle. Exited Windows Sidebar, CPU usage dropped to ~4%.
I'm sorry, you are being fined for repeating another car analogy on /.
Agreed -- 'Natural One' by Folk Implosion was one such song for me. 'Kids' OST by the way.
Tastes like stale marshmallows!
Thank you, I'm here all week.
Problems with batteries, specific to the MBP iirc... damn I wish I had the link
From what I remember, PackageMaker (the utility to create said *.pkg files) has the framework in place for uninstall, but it's not done. So it seems its a future plan. But for today (and the future as far as anyone knows) no uninstall.
Just a quick note for those who care -
The source builds just as painlessly with VC7, and VC7.1 as well if you point it to iostreams.h and its family from VC7 (iostream.h et al were removed in VS2003)
It's funny you mention multiplayer... the development of JA2 originally had multiplayer code, and the remnants are all over the place. I'm currently volunteered as the "network researcher" at Bear's Pit Forum. We're missing a few headers that weren't part of the source, but someone is already contacting StrategyFirst about it.
And believe me, it gets a workout! ;)
Sounds like someone is stuck in the 590's...
Off-topic re: Mozilla, but this thread gives me the opportunity to say:
Screenshots!
Esp. if you're on Windows a hell of a long time. And even moreso if any of the testers filing reports don't know the common names of controls. Rather than a report saying "When I clicked the little dot thing, the thing with lines turned gray" you have a screenshot showing the radio button disabling a slider control, etc.
Bah, Lone Star and Barf stole mine...
I ... the two lines above, one right after the other, shake head, blink eyes
;-) )
So you're a cokehead then? It's amazing what happens when you when you take a quote out of context.
Seriously though, the entire line reads [don't be afraid to say what you want -- your slashdot karma isn't that important]. I doubt the author was purposely being contradictive. And no, I do not really think ch-chuck is a cokehead
Is it running super-slow all the time? I noticed when running (on a system almost identical to yours) that they used 'pseudo-culling' (for lack of a better word) in which when you zoom in or out, or traverse across to another area of the map, it had actually been drawing low-quality images offscreen. Upon changing view (most notable when zooming) it lags out redrawing the objects as "high quality". For the record, I've got a completely covered "Mayor's Tutorial" and once that goofy drawing is done, even at 1024, it still runs well.
Really? I'd love if a whole bunch of womens thought I had a humongous wang
To sign on to Hotmail (in IE 6 only?) or MSN Messenger, at least, you have to associate a Passport account with your XP user account
Not true - when a user account is first logged into XP, it pops up a cutesy little message - something like "Add your Passport account to XP!" You can dismiss that warning, and Passport stuff will still work fine. For the record, IE6 on XP right now, and I can get to Hotmail just fine.
Yeah, I saw this too, I've seen it a few times actually. It seems that Tools->Windows Update sometimes causes windowsupdate.microsoft.com to ID your OS/IE version incorrectly, because you'll notice that that message is on v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com (2000/XP only). Removing the v4 will bring you back to regular windowsupdate.
I know parent was probably intended as an MS jab, but iirc Longhorn is named in the same tradition as Windows XP (Whistler) - Mountains in Washington.
According to the standard, no. But then again, is Jane Teenybopper going to look for a little logo on the latest N*Sync/Backstreet Boys/Whatever CD? Nope! She'll see it, buy it, and that'll be it. It seems that when enough people unknowingly buy this junk and it won't work in certain devices is when you'll probably witness an uproar.
Headline quotes the PPC as 6 GB RAM - here's directly lifted:
hardware: 32 way logical partition, 1.1GHz POWER4, 60G RAM
Unfortunately even in the US the 'toons are sometimes censored for "violent" content. Cartoons made in the '60's (or earlier), played for 30+ years (!), but starting around 1998 I noticed scenes being cut. Most notably, some of you may remember a Bugs 'toon where he and a hunting dog were running around. They end up underwater, the dog ends up in a sandwich (iirc) and at one point originally the dog gets shot in the face. The standard blackened face is all that happened to him, yet I saw this one a couple years ago with the entire scene cut out! Shameful really.
Nope! You know who the first person Joe Consumer will go to when his cheap-ass $5 XBOX controller doesn't work is? Microsoft. Regardless of how much everyone likes to hate MS here, the fact is, that's resources they'd be spending to tell Mr. J.C. that he bought a knockoff and that no it won't work properly. Geez a little kneejerk with the anticompetition statement eh? A fork doesn't have the ability to change function - it's always a fork. A cheaply made knockoff peripheral (See also: Item made specifically for use with another) could work improperly, and MS ends up having to deal with it.
AFAIK, this isn't how it works. CDRWin has two separate keys, ~20 characters each. As of recent versions, there were three possibilities for registering:
1. Keys are good, fully-functional program
2. Keys are bad, it says so, you might be left in 'demo' mode
3. Pirated keys/blacklisted keys will often appear to work properly, but you will burn nothing but coasters.
Now, to your comment of "mistyping"...you'd have to get plenty of characters wrong to accidentally turn your valid key into one that gets detected as a pirated key. One of the more ingenious ways to manage piracy, if you ask me.
I agree, but I think there's another problem present. Many people want prettiness in games, often wrongly. For instance, what was the single most common thing heard when Diablo II came out? "Gah! 640x480 2D! This game sucks!" That was often by people who played it for a few minutes. Personally, Diablo II is one of my favorites. The problem is, the focus right now is on making pretty graphics and such, too small a percentage of people (relative to the entire game community) appreciates a truly good game.