So some one like Michelangelo who paints on a building with permission is an artist, but some one who paints on a building without is merely defacing a building?
That's an awfully black and white view of the world.
I suppose that all of those cave paintings were some punk kid throwing up gang signs for the bison gang.
Where's the art? I'm sure that there are lots of people who would argue that graffiti is not art, but I feel that it's a valid form of subversive social commentary.
Most of the Graffiti kids I have known tag for a bunch of reasons..
Reasons like the art of it (I've seen some fantastic tags), but mostly the challenge of getting to a spot where you have time to throw a good tag. I mean, half of what people graffiti is their own name, or TAG, mostly on the biggest, most difficult thing to get to that they can find.
It's about the art, and about the challenge. Using a robot seems like mere automated vandalism.
How did your SAR team teach you to Navigate? Map and compass, or GPS?
When I was doing SAR (State explorer post 181 out of Salem, OR, if you are interested), orienteering was conducted entirely by map and compass. It was good training, but if you are going to search professionally, I would suggest having at least one team member equipped with GPS. It just makes life a lot easier.
A set of good radios is necessary when for conducting a good search. With out it, team members have difficultly locating each other, and calling in help once you have located your objective is also problematic. Definitely a good thing to have with you under those circumstances.
I don't carry one when I'm camping, though. I mostly camp in area that feels like my backyard, and I don't do much back packing. I notify a family member when I head out, and tell them where I will be. If I were really concerned about getting lost or injured and being unable to find help, I would rent an Emergency location transmitter. There are several good teams in the Portland/Vancouver area with a response time of around 2 hours, providing you use the ELT..
Much easier than trying to give your exact location over a radio.. Also cheaper in the short run.
Depends on how you camp. My tent is kind of high tech (if you consider aluminum poles and canvas high tech), as is the stove.. Sure, we've got a tent with fiberglass poles, but it seems like the dogs always crash through it in the dark, breaking the poles.
My reason for camping (which I do a lot of) is not to get away from the office. It's to get away from the noise of the city. It's to get back to the way I grew up. I don't take my peers camping. I take my freinds, and my family.
I sure don't need a gps to know where I am. A map, a compass and the sun seem to work pretty good. I sure don't have WiFi in camp. Can yell almost that far. I don't bring my laptop, because I don't go out there to do the same thing that I do everyday.
They brought Venture Capitalists to the picnic says to me that this was a purely bussiness meeting in an abnormal setting, nothing more. I'm sure that the folks who went will remember it for the rest of thier lives. I'd have run for the woods, personally.
Of course, then how long will it be until cigarette companies come out with anti-vaccine cigs?
Oh... That's dastardly!
I'm worried that someone will decide that it's necessary for people to be vaccinated against smoking. I can easily see parents vaccinating their children at a young age, corporations requiring that as part of a 'Smoke free workplace' policy employee's be vaccinated, insurance providers not providing to those who are not vaccinated, or the government forcing people to be vaccinated either in the military or as part of an addiction treatment program for other substances.
I'm also curious as to whether or not a similar vaccine could be used against other drug users. I can very clearly see an Ashcroftian future where you just CAN'T get high.
That would really, really piss me off. Freaking mind control via chemical inducement, I tell you!
[i]Similarly, cattle and other grazing animals inevitably eat a small quantity of insect, snails, etc that are mixed in with the herbs. But this doesn't make a cow into a predator.[/i]
Generally superior, absolutely. Most of that superiority is in the last level of fit, finish and decoration. The high end collector's market isn't willing to pay for that level of sophistication in a machine made item.. A machine could be made that produces fine swords (and the swords that are machine made currently are some best functional sword), and many lower end knives made primarily by machines are very nice, but they do not command the higher level of finish and price simply because they are machine made.
I agree with your comments about the Diamond Age. Neal Stephenson is insightful and fun to read to boot. A non fiction work of his, In the beginning there was the CLI is available online;) A good read, and pertinent to the discussion of tanks and Ferrari's.
I've personally seen the demand for handmade objects over machine made ones. I hand make custom knives and swords, and even as a nameless competitor I can command significantly more for a knife than you would typically see in a store.
A friend of mine up in Seattle sells machine made swords fabricated by a former Boeing machinist by the name of Angus Trim.. You can see his work here All Saints Blades. Very nice stuff, and in my opinion some of the best machine made swords out there. These swords run about 350-550$, with some aftermarket customization that might take them up towards 750$.
When you look toward the finer hand made blades, you'll notice a steep step in price. Check out this rapier by Kevin Cashen, an American Bladesmith's Society mastersmith. IIRC, this went for about 3000$, and would probably be more now.
And for those of you who are fond of Katana (c'mon, Fanboy, I know you're out there), look at Howard Clark's work Here. Also an ABS mastersmith, Howard makes katana's that can bend a into a full U before seriously warping.. An article documenting that, and Howard's swords is at the Swordforum. In addition to the suffering that the blade alone would set you back (about $3K), a fully polished and mounted blade would run you upwards of 6000$.
Of course, you can get hand made swords for cheaper, but they are going to be made in China, or else where under dubious working conditions (smithing is tough enough work, even when you get paid what you should for it), and not of the same level of craftsmanship. You can take a look and see what I mean.
The demand for hand made goods is all ready rising, and I predict that this trend will grow as more of the goods and services are provided to us by machines.
I used to work right next to a Dell support team, at Stream Int. in Beaverton, OR (oh my gawd, I think I just violated my NDA;)
They really weren't very good technicians. Stream mostly just hired people off of the street, and the biggest qualification needed was knowledge of a couple of dos commands. Level one calls were mostly scripted anyway, and they had managers on thier backs constantly about how long they were on their calls (15 minute average call time, or you are fired.)
They were paid a shitty wage, about 10.00$ an hour, which is more than some of them deserved.
That being said, I'm not any more hopeful for the quality of support that will come from the USA than I would be if it came from India.
You also need a damn good welder, which can be hard to find.
A friend and I played around with a 1" diameter cannon a couple of years ago. He's a shipwright and pipe welder by trade. He built and welded the thing, and despite being very comfortable welding pipe for high pressure applications.. this still made him nervous, even though it was built using 3/4" wall pipe, and a 2" thick butt plate.
We mostly stopped using it after a kid blew his hand off with a similar device a few miles away on the 4th of july. Shortly there after, we fired it off one last time (in the fornt yard, no less), with a nice light load of powder and a plastic bag for wadding, no actual projectile. For some reason we got a much louder detonation that ussual, and the cannon jumped much farther than normal. At this point, we realized that it was unpredictable, and quite possibly a danger to the operator.
I wouldn't feel comfortable with such a toy unless I could have it ultrasonically tested at least semireglarly.
What the hell do you need to have that indepth and focused phone coversation about? Anything technical will probably require outside resources, and anything personal should be conducted in person.
Trying to reach Zen? Hang up the damn phone.
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"The other bonus is another gift to us. The money earned by this novel will be going to directly and substantially support Heinlein's dream, and the dream we, Heinlein's Children, share. Earnings will be going to the advancement of human exploration of space. When you purchase "For Us, the Living" you are also contributing, in a real and meaningful way, the furtherment of this dream. Yet again, Heinlein 'pays it forward.'"
Imho is particularly cool. As cool as a new book by RAH. How often do the proceeds of any artists work go back to a cause that the author would have approved of, instead of thier bloodsucking relatives?
Some virii are written with a specific location to look for updates, or leave open an additional obscure hole for patches to come through on a secondary distribution network.
But you're completely right. There have also been virii that had redistribution systems which were *bugged*. Heh.
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So some one like Michelangelo who paints on a building with permission is an artist, but some one who paints on a building without is merely defacing a building?
That's an awfully black and white view of the world.
I suppose that all of those cave paintings were some punk kid throwing up gang signs for the bison gang.
You wanna roll with the bison, fool?
It's not always like that.
Most of the people I've known who have done graffiti weren't gang members, and if you know what you are looking at, you can tell the difference.
I don't really want to condone graffiti, but I've been pretty impressed by some of it.
Where's the art? I'm sure that there are lots of people who would argue that graffiti is not art, but I feel that it's a valid form of subversive social commentary.
Most of the Graffiti kids I have known tag for a bunch of reasons..
Reasons like the art of it (I've seen some fantastic tags), but mostly the challenge of getting to a spot where you have time to throw a good tag. I mean, half of what people graffiti is their own name, or TAG, mostly on the biggest, most difficult thing to get to that they can find.
It's about the art, and about the challenge. Using a robot seems like mere automated vandalism.
You insensitive clod!
Didn't you ever wonder what Area 51 was really for?
Good post, and good points.
How did your SAR team teach you to Navigate? Map and compass, or GPS?
When I was doing SAR (State explorer post 181 out of Salem, OR, if you are interested), orienteering was conducted entirely by map and compass. It was good training, but if you are going to search professionally, I would suggest having at least one team member equipped with GPS. It just makes life a lot easier.
A set of good radios is necessary when for conducting a good search. With out it, team members have difficultly locating each other, and calling in help once you have located your objective is also problematic. Definitely a good thing to have with you under those circumstances.
I don't carry one when I'm camping, though. I mostly camp in area that feels like my backyard, and I don't do much back packing. I notify a family member when I head out, and tell them where I will be. If I were really concerned about getting lost or injured and being unable to find help, I would rent an Emergency location transmitter. There are several good teams in the Portland/Vancouver area with a response time of around 2 hours, providing you use the ELT..
Much easier than trying to give your exact location over a radio.. Also cheaper in the short run.
josh
Depends on how you camp. My tent is kind of high tech (if you consider aluminum poles and canvas high tech), as is the stove.. Sure, we've got a tent with fiberglass poles, but it seems like the dogs always crash through it in the dark, breaking the poles.
My reason for camping (which I do a lot of) is not to get away from the office. It's to get away from the noise of the city. It's to get back to the way I grew up. I don't take my peers camping. I take my freinds, and my family.
I sure don't need a gps to know where I am. A map, a compass and the sun seem to work pretty good. I sure don't have WiFi in camp. Can yell almost that far. I don't bring my laptop, because I don't go out there to do the same thing that I do everyday.
They brought Venture Capitalists to the picnic says to me that this was a purely bussiness meeting in an abnormal setting, nothing more. I'm sure that the folks who went will remember it for the rest of thier lives. I'd have run for the woods, personally.
josh
How exactly?
Maybe by bribing a clerk, but not legally AFAIK..
Fuck Junior.
Of course, then how long will it be until cigarette companies come out with anti-vaccine cigs?
Oh... That's dastardly!
I'm worried that someone will decide that it's necessary for people to be vaccinated against smoking. I can easily see parents vaccinating their children at a young age, corporations requiring that as part of a 'Smoke free workplace' policy employee's be vaccinated, insurance providers not providing to those who are not vaccinated, or the government forcing people to be vaccinated either in the military or as part of an addiction treatment program for other substances.
I'm also curious as to whether or not a similar vaccine could be used against other drug users. I can very clearly see an Ashcroftian future where you just CAN'T get high.
That would really, really piss me off. Freaking mind control via chemical inducement, I tell you!
[i]Similarly, cattle and other grazing animals inevitably eat a small quantity of insect, snails, etc that are mixed in with the herbs. But this doesn't make a cow into a predator.[/i]
Sure does, if you are a snail.
Generally superior, absolutely. Most of that superiority is in the last level of fit, finish and decoration. The high end collector's market isn't willing to pay for that level of sophistication in a machine made item.. A machine could be made that produces fine swords (and the swords that are machine made currently are some best functional sword), and many lower end knives made primarily by machines are very nice, but they do not command the higher level of finish and price simply because they are machine made.
I agree with your comments about the Diamond Age. Neal Stephenson is insightful and fun to read to boot. A non fiction work of his, In the beginning there was the CLI is available online ;) A good read, and pertinent to the discussion of tanks and Ferrari's.
I've personally seen the demand for handmade objects over machine made ones. I hand make custom knives and swords, and even as a nameless competitor I can command significantly more for a knife than you would typically see in a store.
A friend of mine up in Seattle sells machine made swords fabricated by a former Boeing machinist by the name of Angus Trim.. You can see his work here All Saints Blades. Very nice stuff, and in my opinion some of the best machine made swords out there. These swords run about 350-550$, with some aftermarket customization that might take them up towards 750$.
When you look toward the finer hand made blades, you'll notice a steep step in price. Check out this rapier by Kevin Cashen, an American Bladesmith's Society mastersmith. IIRC, this went for about 3000$, and would probably be more now.
And for those of you who are fond of Katana (c'mon, Fanboy, I know you're out there), look at Howard Clark's work Here. Also an ABS mastersmith, Howard makes katana's that can bend a into a full U before seriously warping.. An article documenting that, and Howard's swords is at the Swordforum. In addition to the suffering that the blade alone would set you back (about $3K), a fully polished and mounted blade would run you upwards of 6000$.
Of course, you can get hand made swords for cheaper, but they are going to be made in China, or else where under dubious working conditions (smithing is tough enough work, even when you get paid what you should for it), and not of the same level of craftsmanship. You can take a look and see what I mean.
The demand for hand made goods is all ready rising, and I predict that this trend will grow as more of the goods and services are provided to us by machines.
That's a load of meekrob!
South Park was right.
Aids is funny now.
I used to work right next to a Dell support team, at Stream Int. in Beaverton, OR (oh my gawd, I think I just violated my NDA ;)
They really weren't very good technicians. Stream mostly just hired people off of the street, and the biggest qualification needed was knowledge of a couple of dos commands. Level one calls were mostly scripted anyway, and they had managers on thier backs constantly about how long they were on their calls (15 minute average call time, or you are fired.)
They were paid a shitty wage, about 10.00$ an hour, which is more than some of them deserved.
That being said, I'm not any more hopeful for the quality of support that will come from the USA than I would be if it came from India.
It's good to see jobs coming back, though.
Everybody knows that fish and cat DNA don't splice!
Haven't you heard that song by Loverboy?
You guys can take them..
Go on, somebody kick the shit outta Darl.
That's not entirely true.
There are a number of people who are seriously disabled in the world.
Not all of the handicapped are just 'lazy', asshole.
I wonder if the Bufo Marinaris produces 5-Meo-DMT like the Bufo Alvarius..
d ru gs/psychedelic_drugs_bufo_toads.htm
http://www.everyonedoesit.com/info/psychedelic_
MMMM...
Toads!
Huh?
Coherent what?
Discovery what?
Let's just invade California.
You also need a damn good welder, which can be hard to find.
A friend and I played around with a 1" diameter cannon a couple of years ago. He's a shipwright and pipe welder by trade. He built and welded the thing, and despite being very comfortable welding pipe for high pressure applications.. this still made him nervous, even though it was built using 3/4" wall pipe, and a 2" thick butt plate.
We mostly stopped using it after a kid blew his hand off with a similar device a few miles away on the 4th of july. Shortly there after, we fired it off one last time (in the fornt yard, no less), with a nice light load of powder and a plastic bag for wadding, no actual projectile. For some reason we got a much louder detonation that ussual, and the cannon jumped much farther than normal. At this point, we realized that it was unpredictable, and quite possibly a danger to the operator.
I wouldn't feel comfortable with such a toy unless I could have it ultrasonically tested at least semireglarly.
Jesus Christ on a motherfucking pogo stick!
What the hell do you need to have that indepth and focused phone coversation about? Anything technical will probably require outside resources, and anything personal should be conducted in person.
Trying to reach Zen?
Hang up the damn phone.
Quoted from the article :
"The other bonus is another gift to us. The money earned by this novel will be going to directly and substantially support Heinlein's dream, and the dream we, Heinlein's Children, share. Earnings will be going to the advancement of human exploration of space. When you purchase "For Us, the Living" you are also contributing, in a real and meaningful way, the furtherment of this dream. Yet again, Heinlein 'pays it forward.'"
Imho is particularly cool. As cool as a new book by RAH. How often do the proceeds of any artists work go back to a cause that the author would have approved of, instead of thier bloodsucking relatives?
I've got blue eyes and I can stand in front of a server rack. I'm obviously qualified!
Hire me!
Some virii are written with a specific location to look for updates, or leave open an additional obscure hole for patches to come through on a secondary distribution network.
But you're completely right. There have also been virii that had redistribution systems which were *bugged*. Heh.
`I just want to say LOVE YOU SAN!'
Awww, it's so romantic...