Obviously, you've never spoken to a single businessperson. This is common businessman lingo, just like Slashdotters use the word "cracker" incorrectly.
The real question I want to know is why brand new companies don't use something other than windows? I mean, you have nothing to port over. No existing applications that need to run on a different platform. And if you're a new company that means you probably have a pool of startup money you want to be very frugal with. Forget about existing companies, they are hopeless. The new companies are where it's at.
Because most new companies (like mine was) was one guy. That one guy rarely knows Linux well enough to be able to set up the computer(s), and be able to forget about them. New businesses hang on by their short and curlies, much more often than not, and paying for a Linux guy is a *tremendous* waste of money. Unless one of the founders is a Linux geek, or a Linux software company is being started, there's no reason whatsoever to consider Linux for most new companies. Grab your daughter's old Win 95 box, and start working. That's what a "new company" is. That whole dot-com-stupid-venture-capital thing has been over for years, now.
1. Salon is the only remaining indepdendent online news site with actual journalists that I know of.
2. They don't require payment, they require payment or sitting through an ad. If you can't be bothered to watch an ad, then they can't be bothered to waste bandwidth on you. Seems fair enough.
3. Their political commentary is completely irrelevant in this context.
They "bother" with it because the reason that Windows is so popular is that a developer can, incredibly easily, use any of the functionality in IE, Media Player, etc. I know that when I write an app that needs web access, I use IE COM objects.... I don't know if Firefox even has any exposed COM objects.
Innovation? How about Visual Studio? How about the whole COM platform? *That's* what Ballmer is talking about when he talks about "developers". That's innovation. I can whip up a usable, very functional Windows app in seconds. Try doing that on any other platform.
I don't see much innovation coming from the OSS side... it's all just copying what successful proprietary companies have already done.
Honestly, wi-fi in general needs to work better before people are going to use it exclusively. We just stopped using our town's free wi-fi because it sucked. And, I stopped using it in my house a few months back, also. I've never seen a solid, stable, fast wi-fi implementation. It's fun and cute for people checking their email quickly at Starfucks, but wi-fi still isn't there (from everything I've seen) for a regular, dedicated connection.
The best method to rid the world of these insane fanatics is to kill them at the source.
How about just outlawing something as arcane, ignorant, and hateful as religion? Religion's at the heart of almost all violence these days (note that George Bush is an Evangelical Born Again Christian, thus the slaughter in the Middle East).
Gates was given state support as he imposed a horrible operating system on the world and became its richest man as a consequence.
How exactly was Gates given state support? If anything, the Open Source Movement is *based* on state support. After all, most open source work is done in, or with the support of public universities, and students willing to work for free because they have time and money due of their state supported education.
What you're advocating a tax on success, and anyone who can follow basic logic understands taht this does NOT work in the long run. Hell, look today at offshore companies. Companies do it because of progressive taxation. I'd be willing to bet that the US gov't would rake in a good bit more, and inspire more innovation if not for oppressive taxes. Congratulations on your fantastic, world-changing product/service! Welcome to your new 50% tax bracket!
Something like this is simply DOA. Few content providers will take advantage of this because they have their own in house and/or have never heard of this guy or his company. If say, Yahoo was to do it, it'd take off like wildfire. But Yahoo's a perfect example... their one id system is and has been in place all throughout their growing universe of web content. As is, does the creator really think that people will be clamoring for one for a blogging site? c'mon... blogging is still quite the ego-centric niche.
1. Sellers can choose how quickly they ship. The finest granularity for our end of the shipping spectrum is "1-2 days", but you can also choose 2-3 days, 3-5 days, etc.
2. Sellers choose the shipping price. You can choose per item costs, or flat fee + $x.xx per pound. Our own website, for example, calculates the *exact* shipping based on what's shipping and where it's going to. Amazon can't do this, but sellers still set the price.
3. It states very clearly in all Amazon seller material that you *cannot* promote your own website, or even other products.
Now, there are also different levels of service for different merchants, which is probably why you're a bit confused.
There are cities that have that much wireless capacity just from their coffee shops! Add in the hotels, and the all-too-prevelant open APs, and you see that that's nothing to brag on.
They also have a tiny tax base. It's impressive in that I don't think we've ever seen a single US city that is 100% wireless. This is a major milestone, regardless of size.
I agree. The few times I've gotten various flavors of Linux to work, they all looked almost *exactly* like Windows. The only real difference was that the button in the bottm left hand corner didn't say "Start". So I agree, Linux companies are doing the same thing... bashing, but desperately trying to emulate.
Sounds to me, like somebody (or a whole lot of somebody's in this thread) seem a bit too agitated over a single new product. I think it's very obvious what's going on here, but everybody's afraid to say it, lest they become less 'l33t' in the future. Windows is filling in the gaps. Quickly. W2K has incredible stability. Security it rapidly increasing. Add a good command line interface (they already do have a scripting language, but *nix zealots like to ignore that), and there's not a whole hell of a lot of reason left why somebody would subject themselves to any *nix on the desktop any more. and, the onyl real innovation that has been done anywhere near the *nix camp in the past to years has come out of Apple. In the immortal words of David Spade: Unix: buh-bye.
OK, so at what point do you arbitrarily decide that a company "needs to be forked"? Is it when you say so, or is there a certain level of market capitalization, sales? What exactly is your criteria for saying this?
I'm guessing that most of these businesses are small/medium size and have very limited IT budgets.
My small business has virtually no IT budget, so outside support isn't really an option now. We've never called MS about anything, and I can't imagine calling MS about anything in the future, either. Like everybody else is saying... W2K just works. That's the way software is supposed to work. I'm quite happy with it, and will stay with W2K until I have a very pressing reason to switch.
Just knowing HTML and CSS does not result in web pages that are easy to use and accessible. That is something that can't be learned directly from a book. It takes a certain intuition to be able to design web pages that truly perform.
The Slashdot article I read was about a book called "Spring into HTML and CSS". It said *nothing* about web design. Don't know what the book was called in your universe, though.
Or, there are people such as myself who know exactly what each OS costs, and figures that the hours, days, weeks... months? of his life that it would take to get to the point where Linux can actually get back up to par with Windows is worth far more than the $249.99 spent for W2K.
You don't make any sense. The main point is: given the choice of Linux or OSX, nobody in their right mind would subject themselves to and flavor of Linux on a desktop PC. If I had a little bit of extra time and/or money, I'd buy a Mac. If I had a *lot* of extra time and money, I'd *think* about using Linux on a daily basis.
Wow. That's actually totally unconvincing. Actually, this article convinces me that Linux WILL be in trouble.
$200 being too much for an OS (OSX or Windows) isn't very convincing. Much less if OEM. Besides, who says OS prices won't fall?
Right now, OSX has -zero- driver problems (they do QA), and there are already tons of working OSX drivers out there. Of course, everything has a Windows driver. Linux is far behind.
Yes, Linux is getting better every day. In 1/5 of the time, Apple developed an incredible, functional OS from the same base... something that Linux still hasn't been able to accomplish in more than 10 years. Who says that Apple and MS are going to stop improving? When will Linux actually catch up in terms of functionality? WILL Linux EVER catch up?
Telling people to do that is like telling little kids to drop out of school to become NBA stars... for 99.99% of people, college is a good thing. He got lucky, and suggests more kids do it? Is he gonna bail all their asses out when 99% of them are working in a fucking fast food restaurant for the rest of their miserable lives? What a shortsighted, obnoxious, dick.
Well, there's never been a very good or charismatic Open Source Leader. RMS and ESR are both as nutty as fruitcakes, and Bruce Perens is nothing but a media whore (similar to Jesse Jackson). I think OSS would GREATLY benefit from one or a small handful of charismatic, intelligent leader(s). First, let's see if a leader for OSS crops up.
Once that's settled, it's time for looking for a leader for a real policial revolution...
Sounds like somebody griping about losing business. I don't know what you're talking about, but if you've ever been inside of a business where computers are just tools, you'll find computers running happily along for *years* without being touched (physically or otherwise) that work just fine. I know that in my shop, I just pulled out a laptop that was running for 3 year as my router/DHCP server. It was actually behind a pile of boxes in a corner and my employees didn't even know it existed. That IS the way computers should work.
You sound like a crooked auto mechanic that is disappointed that cars don't need a tune-up every 10K miles and an oil change every 3K miles, anymore.
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Obviously, you've never spoken to a single businessperson. This is common businessman lingo, just like Slashdotters use the word "cracker" incorrectly.
The real question I want to know is why brand new companies don't use something other than windows? I mean, you have nothing to port over. No existing applications that need to run on a different platform. And if you're a new company that means you probably have a pool of startup money you want to be very frugal with. Forget about existing companies, they are hopeless. The new companies are where it's at.
Because most new companies (like mine was) was one guy. That one guy rarely knows Linux well enough to be able to set up the computer(s), and be able to forget about them. New businesses hang on by their short and curlies, much more often than not, and paying for a Linux guy is a *tremendous* waste of money. Unless one of the founders is a Linux geek, or a Linux software company is being started, there's no reason whatsoever to consider Linux for most new companies. Grab your daughter's old Win 95 box, and start working. That's what a "new company" is. That whole dot-com-stupid-venture-capital thing has been over for years, now.
1. Salon is the only remaining indepdendent online news site with actual journalists that I know of.
2. They don't require payment, they require payment or sitting through an ad. If you can't be bothered to watch an ad, then they can't be bothered to waste bandwidth on you. Seems fair enough.
3. Their political commentary is completely irrelevant in this context.
They "bother" with it because the reason that Windows is so popular is that a developer can, incredibly easily, use any of the functionality in IE, Media Player, etc. I know that when I write an app that needs web access, I use IE COM objects.... I don't know if Firefox even has any exposed COM objects.
Personally, I'd like to see an MST3K made of The Matrix, which I think is *much* worse than Plan 9, especially given the budget.
Innovation? How about Visual Studio? How about the whole COM platform? *That's* what Ballmer is talking about when he talks about "developers". That's innovation. I can whip up a usable, very functional Windows app in seconds. Try doing that on any other platform.
I don't see much innovation coming from the OSS side... it's all just copying what successful proprietary companies have already done.
Slashdot has subscriptions?
"Ha, Ha". It's funny. Laugh.
Honestly, wi-fi in general needs to work better before people are going to use it exclusively. We just stopped using our town's free wi-fi because it sucked. And, I stopped using it in my house a few months back, also. I've never seen a solid, stable, fast wi-fi implementation. It's fun and cute for people checking their email quickly at Starfucks, but wi-fi still isn't there (from everything I've seen) for a regular, dedicated connection.
The best method to rid the world of these insane fanatics is to kill them at the source.
How about just outlawing something as arcane, ignorant, and hateful as religion? Religion's at the heart of almost all violence these days (note that George Bush is an Evangelical Born Again Christian, thus the slaughter in the Middle East).
Gates was given state support as he imposed a horrible operating system on the world and became its richest man as a consequence.
How exactly was Gates given state support? If anything, the Open Source Movement is *based* on state support. After all, most open source work is done in, or with the support of public universities, and students willing to work for free because they have time and money due of their state supported education.
What you're advocating a tax on success, and anyone who can follow basic logic understands taht this does NOT work in the long run. Hell, look today at offshore companies. Companies do it because of progressive taxation. I'd be willing to bet that the US gov't would rake in a good bit more, and inspire more innovation if not for oppressive taxes. Congratulations on your fantastic, world-changing product/service! Welcome to your new 50% tax bracket!
Something like this is simply DOA. Few content providers will take advantage of this because they have their own in house and/or have never heard of this guy or his company. If say, Yahoo was to do it, it'd take off like wildfire. But Yahoo's a perfect example... their one id system is and has been in place all throughout their growing universe of web content. As is, does the creator really think that people will be clamoring for one for a blogging site? c'mon... blogging is still quite the ego-centric niche.
Not true at all.
1. Sellers can choose how quickly they ship. The finest granularity for our end of the shipping spectrum is "1-2 days", but you can also choose 2-3 days, 3-5 days, etc.
2. Sellers choose the shipping price. You can choose per item costs, or flat fee + $x.xx per pound. Our own website, for example, calculates the *exact* shipping based on what's shipping and where it's going to. Amazon can't do this, but sellers still set the price.
3. It states very clearly in all Amazon seller material that you *cannot* promote your own website, or even other products.
Now, there are also different levels of service for different merchants, which is probably why you're a bit confused.
There are cities that have that much wireless capacity just from their coffee shops! Add in the hotels, and the all-too-prevelant open APs, and you see that that's nothing to brag on.
They also have a tiny tax base. It's impressive in that I don't think we've ever seen a single US city that is 100% wireless. This is a major milestone, regardless of size.
I agree. The few times I've gotten various flavors of Linux to work, they all looked almost *exactly* like Windows. The only real difference was that the button in the bottm left hand corner didn't say "Start". So I agree, Linux companies are doing the same thing... bashing, but desperately trying to emulate.
Sounds to me, like somebody (or a whole lot of somebody's in this thread) seem a bit too agitated over a single new product. I think it's very obvious what's going on here, but everybody's afraid to say it, lest they become less 'l33t' in the future. Windows is filling in the gaps. Quickly. W2K has incredible stability. Security it rapidly increasing. Add a good command line interface (they already do have a scripting language, but *nix zealots like to ignore that), and there's not a whole hell of a lot of reason left why somebody would subject themselves to any *nix on the desktop any more. and, the onyl real innovation that has been done anywhere near the *nix camp in the past to years has come out of Apple. In the immortal words of David Spade: Unix: buh-bye.
OK, so at what point do you arbitrarily decide that a company "needs to be forked"? Is it when you say so, or is there a certain level of market capitalization, sales? What exactly is your criteria for saying this?
I'm guessing that most of these businesses are small/medium size and have very limited IT budgets.
My small business has virtually no IT budget, so outside support isn't really an option now. We've never called MS about anything, and I can't imagine calling MS about anything in the future, either. Like everybody else is saying... W2K just works. That's the way software is supposed to work. I'm quite happy with it, and will stay with W2K until I have a very pressing reason to switch.
Just knowing HTML and CSS does not result in web pages that are easy to use and accessible. That is something that can't be learned directly from a book. It takes a certain intuition to be able to design web pages that truly perform.
The Slashdot article I read was about a book called "Spring into HTML and CSS". It said *nothing* about web design. Don't know what the book was called in your universe, though.
Or, there are people such as myself who know exactly what each OS costs, and figures that the hours, days, weeks... months? of his life that it would take to get to the point where Linux can actually get back up to par with Windows is worth far more than the $249.99 spent for W2K.
You don't make any sense. The main point is: given the choice of Linux or OSX, nobody in their right mind would subject themselves to and flavor of Linux on a desktop PC. If I had a little bit of extra time and/or money, I'd buy a Mac. If I had a *lot* of extra time and money, I'd *think* about using Linux on a daily basis.
Wow. That's actually totally unconvincing. Actually, this article convinces me that Linux WILL be in trouble.
Telling people to do that is like telling little kids to drop out of school to become NBA stars... for 99.99% of people, college is a good thing. He got lucky, and suggests more kids do it? Is he gonna bail all their asses out when 99% of them are working in a fucking fast food restaurant for the rest of their miserable lives? What a shortsighted, obnoxious, dick.
You'll still end up with crap. Why? Some people are stupid, and some are smart. Some people have style, and some don't.
Art can't be Open Sourced. That's just a dumb gimmick, not a stroke of greatness.
Well, there's never been a very good or charismatic Open Source Leader. RMS and ESR are both as nutty as fruitcakes, and Bruce Perens is nothing but a media whore (similar to Jesse Jackson). I think OSS would GREATLY benefit from one or a small handful of charismatic, intelligent leader(s). First, let's see if a leader for OSS crops up.
Once that's settled, it's time for looking for a leader for a real policial revolution...
Sounds like somebody griping about losing business. I don't know what you're talking about, but if you've ever been inside of a business where computers are just tools, you'll find computers running happily along for *years* without being touched (physically or otherwise) that work just fine. I know that in my shop, I just pulled out a laptop that was running for 3 year as my router/DHCP server. It was actually behind a pile of boxes in a corner and my employees didn't even know it existed. That IS the way computers should work.
You sound like a crooked auto mechanic that is disappointed that cars don't need a tune-up every 10K miles and an oil change every 3K miles, anymore.