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Salon Interviews Bruce Campbell

vonpookie writes "Salon has posted an interview with Bruce Campbell on the subject of his new book Make Love The Bruce Campbell Way, as well as on Tom Cruise, his career, and the realities of the movie biz." From the interview: "Q:Seriously. There was a hilarious interview with Cruise and Spielberg in Der Spiegel recently, reporting that there was a Scientology tent on the set of War of the Worlds, because in between shots Tom wanted to help people kick drugs and alcohol. A: I can believe that. That's fine; it's sort of a way of life for Tom. It's not really a charity. It's more like his religion. Q: He's got a reputation for it! A: Yeah, he's got a reputation for helping people. But my feeling is, 'Shut up and act.'"

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  1. My feeling... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Shut up and learn to act" might be better advice.

  2. Sour Grapes? by Dante+Shamest · · Score: 4, Funny
    But my feeling is, 'Shut up and act.'

    And my feeling is that Bruce Campbell's a closet Katie Holmes fan.

    1. Re:Sour Grapes? by Boronx · · Score: 4, Funny

      Bob McKenzie: ...Statue of Liberty

      Doug McKenzie: pssst! Act! Act!

    2. Re:Sour Grapes? by schon · · Score: 2, Funny

      C'mon, everybody knows that the reason Cruise hooked up with Holmes is that Dakota Fanning is only 12.

    3. Re:Sour Grapes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      no, everybody knows that the reason Cruise hooked up with Holmes is that he paid her millions in an effort to cover up that he is gay. Reportedly he was recently caught in bed with a man, and that is what triggered this crazed frenzy he's been on.

      Cruise is not interested in young girls.

    4. Re:Sour Grapes? by mink · · Score: 1

      But, according to John Travolta Scientology cured his rampent evil homosexuality. How could Tom Cruise, Scientologys best anti-psychiatrist, be overcome by desire to can the man ham?

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      Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
  3. Article text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Shut up and act"
    "Evil Dead" star Bruce Campbell discusses Tom Cruise, idiot film executives, his hilarious debut novel -- and the joys of not being famous.

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    By Scott Thill

    July 14, 2005 | There are some people who don't know who Bruce Campbell is, and there are others who will wait hours in line just to get next to him. The 47-year-old actor's uproarious roles in horror films like "Bubba Ho-Tep" and the essential "Evil Dead" franchise -- which he created along with his high school buddy and fellow Michigan native, director Sam Raimi -- have earned him a dedicated cult following. Indeed, legions of aspiring horror-show nuts have followed Campbell and Raimi, who parleyed his own "Evil Dead" accomplishments into a career helming Hollywood blockbusters like the "Spider-Man" movies, ever since the two do-it-yourselfers first decided to produce and shoot their own films instead of waiting for a billionaire studio to discover them.

    "It's the old cliché about grabbing the bull by the horns," Campbell says. "There is no mystery to it, just an incredible amount of elbow grease, and most people just aren't built for that."

    To be sure, Campbell's road, which has also included stops behind or in front of the camera at other fandom bonanzas like the "Hercules" and "Xena: Warrior Princess" television series, has not led directly to the Emerald City of the Hollywood mainstream. But that's fine by him. In fact, his new, side-splitting exercise in hard-boiled Hollyweird, "Make Love the Bruce Campbell Way," shows just what kind of chaos can emerge when the straight-shooting icon known mostly by his "Evil Dead" alter ego (the actor-author feels compelled to sign his book jacket "Bruce 'Don't Call Me Ash' Campbell") enters the ranks of the Hollywood elite ruled by stars like Richard Gere and Renée Zellwegger.

    Unlike his previous autobiographical tour de force, "If Chins Could Kill: Confessions of a B Movie Actor" -- which became a national bestseller to the surprise only of those who haven't seen the "Evil Dead" films -- Campbell's newest book is straight-up fiction, a mash-up of noir action and gut-busting humor centered on the artist's long-awaited jump to the Big Time. In the book, he stars with Gere and Zellwegger in a Mike Nichols update of George Cukor's 1960 Marilyn Monroe vehicle, "Let's Make Love," a movie Gregory Peck abandoned because he famously felt the script was "about as funny as pushing Grandma down the stairs in a wheelchair."

    Which, come to think of it, happens to Campbell in his new book, although he's no grandma and it's Richard Gere who eventually does the honors by throwing him down a flight of stairs. Still, that's just a taste of the abuse Campbell undergoes on his quixotic mission to make the A-list. For the entirety of "Make Love the Bruce Campbell Way," its doomed protagonist spends more time getting his ass thoroughly kicked by any number of people rather than doing any actual acting. But perhaps that's the object lesson to be learned in this metafictional exercise in mayhem, which just happens to moonlight as a relationship advice manual of sorts: If you want to make love the Hollywood way, then perhaps you'd better be ready to take a beating.

    I caught up with the opinionated and refreshingly honest Campbell by phone from his Oregon home, where he was setting off to visit some local swimming holes before leaving for a four-month promotional tour. It's strange, but besides being one of schlock cinema's enduring supernovas, Campbell is also an environmentalist of sorts; he's currently wrapping up a three-hour documentary called "A Community Speaks," a nonpartisan examination of the thorny issue of land stewardship, which he produced and directed with his wife, costume designer Ida Gearon. (This is especially weird if you remember that this is a guy who starred in a horror classic where an ingénue gets raped by a tree.) But Campbell's tongue is built for more than resting smarmily in his cheek. During our chat, h

    1. Re:Article text by rodac · · Score: 2, Informative

      Salon got it wrong.

      Peter Jacksons first movie was BadTaste. DeadAlive, as it was called in the US, or Braindead as the rest of us know it was his second movie.

      BadTaste was much better than DeadAlive and is a tragedy for PeterJackson.
      When the first movie you ever made was an 11, whewre can you go from there? You cant go for one splattier, 11 is the max.

      Evil Dead might be a classic but BadTaste is the splattermovie to end all splattermovies.

    2. Re:Article text by fafaforza · · Score: 1

      "You see, most blokes will be directing at 11. You're on 11, all the way up, all the way up...Where can you go from there? Nowhere. What we do, is if we need that extra push over the cliff...Twelve. One louder."

    3. Re:Article text by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1

      "Why don't you just direct 11 louder and make 11 be the top number, and make that the best direction?"

      "These go to 12."

  4. Why is it.... by dieScheisse · · Score: 5, Funny

    that trying to read a Salon article is like going to look at timeshares just to get the free trip?

    1. Re:Why is it.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that trying to read a Salon article is like going to look at timeshares just to get the free trip?

      Typically for some expensive new car too... you sometimes get the impression that it's aimed at the people who think they can save the planet by driving a Toyota Prius, and who go on holiday to obscure countries away from the plebian hordes (missing the irony that those long plane trips typically spew out *way* more CO2 than a short journey from your country to your country's favourite destination, and probably cause more damage than having tourists densely packed in high-rise hotels in a small corner of Spain/Hawaii/Wherever).

      It reminds me of the Iggy Pop quote:-
      "I don't believe any of those liberal people care about shit. They don't give a fuck who's starving in Mugwumps. They do not fucking care. They just want a new Volvo."

      ('Liberal' being someone who is left-wing by American standards)

    2. Re:Why is it.... by N8F8 · · Score: 1

      Oops, there goes my Fruitloops out my nose.

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      "God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon, Marshal of France - speaking truth to power
    3. Re:Why is it.... by falloutgib · · Score: 1

      Fuel efficient-cars aren't about decreasing pollution, they're about not givng money to people who want to kill us (for invading their hoemlands) by buying their oil.

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      "Holy shit! A talking muffin!"
  5. This is on Slashdot? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    the only explanation I have is that making love the bruce campbell way somehow involves the left hand...

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    1. Re:This is on Slashdot? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 4, Funny

      And a chainsaw. Don't forget the chainsaw.

    2. Re:This is on Slashdot? by RichDice · · Score: 1

      Groovy.

    3. Re:This is on Slashdot? by Radish03 · · Score: 1

      Surely you wouldn't want to forget your Boomstick either. That seems more essential.

  6. Re:Huh? Where did this come from? by sznupi · · Score: 1

    ad2: well, we can only speculate about his chainsaw...

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  7. Re:Huh? Where did this come from? by Too+many+errors,+bai · · Score: 1

    The Evil Dead movies, especially Army Of Darkness, are a favorite among nerds. Spawned lots of catchphrases still being used today. Now, what has this to do with Bruce Campbell you say? He was the star of the Evil Dead movies as the chainsaw-and-shotgun wielding Ash Williams. "Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun."

  8. Re:Huh? Where did this come from? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 1

    2) What does this have to do with Linux?

    Not Linux, BSD: he played in various Evil Dead movies...

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    "A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
  9. Re:WTF? by Baddas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is news for nerds... Ok... Film nerds, but still nerds.

    Just because your particular brand of nerd-dom doesn't care about Bruce Campbell doesn't mean the rest of us are indifferent... I hope!

    "Good, Bad, I'm the guy with the gun."

  10. Re:Huh? Where did this come from? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing involving Linux, but a lot of us are fans of Bruce's flicks. He was the prince of thieves in the Xena and Hercules shows, he does a lot of silly things with chain saws, and he's been a hugely popular B movie hero in fantasy and science flicks.

    He has no acting range whatsoever, but he's that big lug you want to show up at parties and go on drinking road trips with.

  11. Why here? Simple: by jerrystem · · Score: 1

    1- Site for nerds like me 2- Army of Darkness star 3- Mix for 10 minutes and serve

  12. Re:WTF? by felonius+maximus · · Score: 3, Insightful
    You may not be aware, but many self-confessed "Nerds" have interests that extend beyond "Bruce Campbell? Does he run Linux?"

    Would you even be asking this question if it were an article about Harrison Ford's latest book?

  13. Cult film actor by FoXDie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bruce Campbell is a cult film actor. Cult films are generally appreciated by Nerds. This is so because of the often campy, but entertaining, material of the cult films.

    In a related subject, Nerds are known to "Geek out" when they see a cult film actor, such as Bruce Campbell, in major films.

    1. Re:Cult film actor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just face the facts: you're surrounded by Phillistines.

  14. Brisco County Jr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm not a horror film fan, but I very much enjoyed Campbells Brisco County Jr. He reminded me of Clint Walker but not quite taking anything seriously. It was a great series.

    1. Re:Brisco County Jr by Loonacy · · Score: 1

      What horror films were Bruce Campbell in? I can't think of any. Just a bunch of gory hilarious comedies.

    2. Re:Brisco County Jr by archgoon · · Score: 1

      Evil dead I was supposed to be a legitimate horror film.

    3. Re:Brisco County Jr by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 1

      too bad it ended so soon. I loved that show.

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    4. Re:Brisco County Jr by EllisDees · · Score: 1

      The first Evil Dead was the scariest movie I'd seen in my life a the time, though I was only about 15.

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    5. Re:Brisco County Jr by abandonment · · Score: 1

      indeed - i recall shitting bricks the first time i watched it...of course now it's just hilarious, but it definitely was terrifying when seen as a 15 year old with WAY to active of an imagination

  15. Re:WTF? by PhoenixFlare · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When the hell did /. turn into a celebrity gossip site? News for nerds? Really?

    Everyone that reads /. is not a programmer. Some of us nerds have interests and skills beyond pure technology, Linux, and programming.

  16. karma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hoer!

  17. Re:WTF? by thelost · · Score: 2, Interesting

    what epitomizes film-nerd culture more than the b-movie, and I can think of few more cult actors within b-movies than Bruce "Dont Call Me Ash" Campbell. I'm a massive fan of Campbell and would certainly hope to see news about him on /.

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  18. OT: What's up with Salon and Slashdot? by Orne · · Score: 1

    I mean really, Salon isn't that good of a news magazine. They require payment for mediocre articles, you can't even read the article if you have Norton Ad-Blocker active, their political commentary is out-of-kilter with most of the libertarian Slashdot audience... Why exactly should we care that Salon has a celebrity interview article?

    1. Re:OT: What's up with Salon and Slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It ain't Salon that's getting posted on Slashdot, it's the celebrity.

    2. Re:OT: What's up with Salon and Slashdot? by NineNine · · Score: 4, Insightful

      1. Salon is the only remaining indepdendent online news site with actual journalists that I know of.

      2. They don't require payment, they require payment or sitting through an ad. If you can't be bothered to watch an ad, then they can't be bothered to waste bandwidth on you. Seems fair enough.

      3. Their political commentary is completely irrelevant in this context.

    3. Re:OT: What's up with Salon and Slashdot? by fafaforza · · Score: 1

      Are you confusing libertarian with liberal?

    4. Re:OT: What's up with Salon and Slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are some libertarians on /., but I believe the majority or at least the most vocal group are big government socialists. I have read posts by guys who make Chairman Mao look like Pat Robertson.

    5. Re:OT: What's up with Salon and Slashdot? by Anthet · · Score: 0

      Im guessing Im not the single libertarian on /. And just like the poster claimed I have a fealing lots of geeks share the libertarian views of limited government.

    6. Re:OT: What's up with Salon and Slashdot? by Arren · · Score: 1

      I mean really, Slashdot isn't that good of a discussion site.

      They shill for Roland Piquepaille.....

      You can't even read it off-and-on for a month without becoming intimately, maddeningly familiar with the concept of 'dupes'.....

      Its denizens' political commentary is generally self-aggrandizing pseudo-functionalism enabling them to abdicate ethical evaluation of the societal structure that floats their (generally) priviliged and affluent circumstances, in favor of a puerile faux Darwinian 'Libertarianism' that enables their feelings of elitist entitlement.....

      Norton Ad-Blocker? pfffft.... why exactly should we care indeed.

    7. Re:OT: What's up with Salon and Slashdot? by LGagnon · · Score: 1

      The liberatarian population of Slashdot has never been proven to be as big as the liberatarians cliam it is. Last I looked, a lot of us were in favor of the Green Party when David Cobb was interviewed by Slashdot.

    8. Re:OT: What's up with Salon and Slashdot? by akuma(x86) · · Score: 1

      Slashdot is libertarian? Bwahahahaha.

      You're new here aren't you?

    9. Re:OT: What's up with Salon and Slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Im guessing Im not

      "I'm", "I'm" or "that I'm".

      on /.

      "/..". (The second "." is the period/full stop ending the setence.)

      just like the poster claimed I have a fealing lots

      "claimed, I", "feeling" or "feeling that".

      Im not the single libertarian on /.

      My guess is that most of the people on Slashdot, libertarian or otherwise, are single.

    10. Re:OT: What's up with Salon and Slashdot? by vonpookie · · Score: 1

      With Firefox, Greasemonkey and a few scripts, you don't have to sit through the ads.

      Heck, before I even installed Greasemonkey I got past the ads by simply using http://www.salon.com/news/cookie.html as my bookmark to the main page.

  19. Re:WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You obviously don't know who Bruce Campbell is.

    I'll give you a hint: He's Ash. The Ash.

    If you still haven't got it, you're not a nerd, and you are excused.

  20. "Hello Kettle? Yeah, it's Pot calling..." by rinkjustice · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Dude, you're blacker than Al Jolson!"

    Tom Cruise is a bit of a nutbar - no doubt about it - but he is a fascinating, headstrong A-list actor who stirs up controversy and sells copy. His fanatical devotion to Scientology seems to have hurt "War of the Worlds" at the box office (and threatens to cripple his own career) and yet he doesn't even flinch.

    Bruce, on the other hand, hasn't really turned the world on it's ear since Army of Darkness. It was that single brilliant movie filmed 20 years ago (give or take - too lazy to find out exactly when) that strangely continues to buoy him to B-list celebrity status.

    Good or bad, Tom Cruise pumps out the big Hollywood blockbusters like a tennis ball machine gone evil. He has as much a right to speak about whatever he believes as much as anybody. Bruce should maybe take his own advice and "shut-up and act", or at least stop being such a bloody hypocrite.

    1. Re:"Hello Kettle? Yeah, it's Pot calling..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't stand to watch Tom Cruise films, with the exception of Top Gun. Scientology aside I wouldn't even pirate War of the Worlds. I also appreciate what Bruce has done in the past and agree that Bubba Ho-Tep was an original and entertaining movie, which I can't say Tom has starred in lately, ->original. Also Salon suck bad for reading articles.

    2. Re:"Hello Kettle? Yeah, it's Pot calling..." by jandrese · · Score: 5, Informative

      Scientology isn't killing WoW, it's the annoying characters and enormous plot holes that are killing it.

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      I read the internet for the articles.
    3. Re:"Hello Kettle? Yeah, it's Pot calling..." by maxpublic · · Score: 1

      Tom Cruise is a bit of a nutbar - no doubt about it - but he is a fascinating

      Perhaps you to. To me, he's an annoying Scientology douchebag.

      Bruce, on the other hand, hasn't really turned the world on it's ear since Army of Darkness.

      On the other hand, Bruce ISN'T an annoying Scientology douchebag.

      Good or bad, Tom Cruise pumps out the big Hollywood blockbusters like a tennis ball machine gone evil.

      I don't think "blockbuster" is the term I'd use for a good chunk of the movies he's been involved in in the last five or six years. And I'm willing to bet the reason War of the Worlds isn't doing worse than it is is because Dakota Fanning is more of an actress at 10 years old than ol' Tom will ever be.

      He has as much a right to speak about whatever he believes as much as anybody.

      And we have the right to ignore him, or take a pass on his movies...because he's an annoying Scientology douchebag.

      Bruce should maybe take his own advice and "shut-up and act", or at least stop being such a bloody hypocrite.

      Tom Cruise has the right to speak about whatever he pleases, yet Bruce should shut his pie-hole? Classic slashdot reasoning in action.

      Max

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    4. Re:"Hello Kettle? Yeah, it's Pot calling..." by SylvesterTheCat · · Score: 1

      > He has as much a right to speak about whatever he believes as much as anybody.

      Yes, he does.
      However, he does not have the right to use his celebrity status to speak on a subject about which he does not know anything (medicine) and imply that somehow he does know something about the subject.

      Granted, this is as much a result of the media circus and the public both of whom fail to question celebrities about what they say as it is of the celebrities.

    5. Re:"Hello Kettle? Yeah, it's Pot calling..." by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bruce, on the other hand, hasn't really turned the world on it's ear since Army of Darkness. It was that single brilliant movie filmed 20 years ago (give or take - too lazy to find out exactly when) that strangely continues to buoy him to B-list celebrity status.

      Go watch Bubba Ho-Tep and try telling me that again.

    6. Re:"Hello Kettle? Yeah, it's Pot calling..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dakota fanning?! have you seen the movie? she's one annoying little bitch that many of us actually hoped would die.

    7. Re:"Hello Kettle? Yeah, it's Pot calling..." by Pete · · Score: 1
      And I'm willing to bet the reason War of the Worlds isn't doing worse than it is is because Dakota Fanning is more of an actress at 10 years old than ol' Tom will ever be.

      Er, yes. Probably quite true.

      But I agree with what you meant as well. ;-)

      I was watching part of an interview with Travolta a night or two ago, and was just thinking... damn it'd be nice if the media would occasionally grow some fucking balls when interviewing these Scientologist drones. "So John... you seriously believe that an evil alien warlord called Xenu dropped hydrogen bombs in volcanos 75 million years ago and oh god this is so stupid I can't even finish the question?"

    8. Re:"Hello Kettle? Yeah, it's Pot calling..." by maxpublic · · Score: 1

      Er, yes. Probably quite true.

      Um, yeah. Definitely a good argument for hitting the 'preview' button before posting.

      Seriously though, my wife and I saw the movie because we were impressed by Dakota's acting in other movies she's been in. If it'd been some other little girl we'd never heard of we'd never have bothered seeing the movie - even via BitTorrent. For the same reason we don't see Travolta movies anymore, even though I thought Travolta was a decent actor right up to "Broken Arrow". Because neither of these guys can just *shut the fuck up* when it comes to their crazy-assed cult.

      The same thing applies to Ashley Judd too. Cute, personable, a great actress - but lately every other sentence out of her mouth is one telling us just how great her god is, and how that god is absolutely responsible for everything that is good in the world. It just spoils her movies for us, because it's difficult to forget this annoying behavior when you see her on screen.

      I don't care what insanity these folks believe in. I just wish they'd stop using their fame to proselytize to the rest of us. If I wanted to hear about your bloody god or your bloody cult I'd ask, dammit!

      Max

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    9. Re:"Hello Kettle? Yeah, it's Pot calling..." by Legion303 · · Score: 1

      "'So John... you seriously believe that an evil alien warlord called Xenu dropped hydrogen bombs in volcanos 75 million years ago [...]'"

      They don't ask because they don't want to get sued for copyright infringement.

    10. Re:"Hello Kettle? Yeah, it's Pot calling..." by Pete · · Score: 1
      They don't ask because they don't want to get sued for copyright infringement.

      Hence the bit about growing some fucking balls. :-)

      Anyway, the Scientologists are bullies and much prefer picking on the weak. I very very much doubt they'd try using their lawyentologists on a person or media organisation who can actually afford to defend themselves. And their celeb-drones like Cruise/Travolta usually have their own PR teams who use a combination of threats and incentives to keep the media lapdogs on a tight leash.

      One of the reasons Tommy is getting so much flak recently is because he's dumped his old PR team (one that was actually competent) for his sister (who is.... not).

    11. Re:"Hello Kettle? Yeah, it's Pot calling..." by sbma44 · · Score: 1

      Excellent point. Scientology is more concerned with ruining lives than ruining movies (Battlefield Earth notwithstanding).

    12. Re:"Hello Kettle? Yeah, it's Pot calling..." by mink · · Score: 1

      I wish the duce from the Today show had the balls to respond to Cruise when he lashed out saying that he (the today show host) didn't know anything about psychiatry. It should have been something along the line of any of these:
      Neither do you, what medical school did you attend and did you graduate?
      What qualifies you to speak on medical grounds?
      Are you willing to take responsability for any malpractice suits from anyone who follows your advice?
      Science has shown/proven that chemical imbalances/deficiencies do exist, look at vitamin B1 deficency for instance.

      Sadly for the most part the WotW movie he was in was not too bad. You can see how close it followed the book and where they made big changes.

      Too bad the pendragon version had three major flaws that kept it from being much better. Those were the bad cgi skeletons, the bad cgi sea battle, and the badly composed crowd scenes.

      I imagine some day the book will be done like masterpeice theater did King Lear back in the late 90's. Just the actors with little or no sets and our imaginations.

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  21. Why Bruce is popular.. by sinner0423 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I see a lot of "who the hell is Bruce Campbell?" posts and I'd like to make a few points -

    Bruce Campbell is a guy who actively does Q&A with audience memebers. When's the last time you've heard of any multi-million dollar actor do that?

    He seems like he's generally a decent guy - he understands his fans make him money, so he treats them with respect & admiration.

    He's been in several cult horror films, some of which were actually really good but lacked any A-list actors to be taken seriously.

    For those that can't picture who Bruce Campbell is - he was the door guy in Spiderman 2 that didn't let Peter in the theater because he was late.

    Lately, he's been in Bubba Ho-Tep, which is another really good movie that didn't garner big box office dollars, but was still incredibly fun to watch. He plays Elvis in a retirement home which is invaded by a mummy, and his best friend (John F. Kennedy) who happens to be african american and has a bag of sand implanted in his head, helps him fend off the evil mummy.

    You can't get any better than that.

    1. Re:Why Bruce is popular.. by Kloog · · Score: 1

      He was also the ring announcer at the wrestling match in the first Spiderman. Raimi takes care of his pals. :)

    2. Re:Why Bruce is popular.. by jwymanm · · Score: 1

      He was also the announcer for the match fights in Spider-Man 1. He gave Spider-Man his name and catch phrase iirc.

    3. Re:Why Bruce is popular.. by TopShelf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I see a lot of "who the hell is Bruce Campbell?" posts and I'd like to make a few points -

      Really? Where? Look through this article, and you'll see just about every post extolling his movies. I understand you wanted to write a post about Campbell, but don't pretend he's unknown around these parts!

      For the record, a friend of mine went to high school with Raimi and Campbell, and still has a copy of a movie they made back then - using his mother's car and running around the campus at Cranbrook (a private school in the Detroit burbs). The plot was basically about the President being kidnapped - back then, he didn't have the CGI available to have Spiderman lend a hand...

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    4. Re:Why Bruce is popular.. by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Bruce Campbell is a guy who actively does Q&A with audience memebers. When's the last time you've heard of any multi-million dollar actor do that?

      Multi-million dollar actors already have fame and attention, they don't need to pander to the fans. The same with Will Wheaton, they don't get any attention so they have to actively seek it.

    5. Re:Why Bruce is popular.. by Seumas · · Score: 1

      He's been in both Spiderman's so far. An announcer in one - an usher in the other.

    6. Re:Why Bruce is popular.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes.. thank you for summarizing the two very short parent posts that basically say the exact same thing. good job. here's a cookie.

    7. Re:Why Bruce is popular.. by slashdot.org · · Score: 1

      Ooookay...

      That still doesn't explain to me why the hell this is posted on /.

      Seems to me that if I were interested in these type of things I would be reading, like, Salon, or something?

    8. Re:Why Bruce is popular.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen Evil Dead, and I must tell you that no A-list actors in the world could have made anyone take it seriously. Blame his non-fame on the lack of A-list actors if you want to, but Bubba Ho-Tep does not sound like a movie I'd want to watch. Perhaps he should shut up and actually try and do some movies I could care about, or at least a movie that makes sense? Now, mod me down for not agreeing with the herd.

    9. Re:Why Bruce is popular.. by Legion303 · · Score: 1

      "Seems to me that if I were interested in these type of things I would be reading, like, Salon, or something?"

      I really hated it when the Slashdot Mafia broke into my house, put one of those Clockwork Orange eye-opener doodads on my head, and forced me to read the article. The worst part was when they raped me with hot grits, though.

    10. Re:Why Bruce is popular.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a jackass.

      Any movie that you pass on simply because it "...does not sound like a movie I'd want to watch." just goes to show what an ignorant turd you are. Go watch your average POS, big budget film with "A-list actors" with no depth or original thought, like War of the Worlds I suppose, and hide your ignorant head in the sand. The rest of "the herd" just happen to appear to get it, which is something that you are obviously incapable of.

      Crawl back in your hole and bury yourself in your substance-free world of "A-list" actors and standard/average cinema. Original concepts with brilliantly convincing performances by "B-list"actors are clearly beyond you.

    11. Re:Why Bruce is popular.. by Warlock7 · · Score: 1

      Because stars of cult films are as much of a piece of nerd news as a story about the latest dual core processors are.

  22. If you don't know it's time to go !!!! by DrSkwid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Did you not ever wonder why a Space Marine carried a chainsaw !

    Thematically, Doom was viewed as 'Aliens' meets 'Evil Dead 2'.

    * John Carmack

    There is a scene in 'The Color of Money' where Tom Cruise shows up at a pool hall with a custom pool cue in a case. 'What do you have in there?' asks someone. 'Doom.' replied Cruise with a cocky grin. That, and the resulting carnage, was how I viewed us springing the game on the industry.

    * John Carmack on why the game was named "Doom"

    The game was called "Doom: Evil Unleashed" in early builds

    "Evil Dead" is also why Duke Nukem utters the awesome : "Come get some!"

    --
    There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
    1. Re:If you don't know it's time to go !!!! by poopdeville · · Score: 2, Informative
      "Evil Dead" is also why Duke Nukem utters the awesome : "Come get some!"

      Bruce was not pleased.

      --
      After all, I am strangely colored.
  23. Salon: So, how good would you say you are? by MindNumbingOblivion · · Score: 4, Funny

    BC: Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun.

    --
    #define CLUE 0
  24. Re:Huh? Where did this come from? by spurtle15 · · Score: 1

    Oh come on. A bunch of soundbytes from Duke Nukem is from Bruce Campbell movies.

  25. Bubba ho-tep by thelost · · Score: 1

    Just a small aside from whether campbell crunches kernal code, if you have the chance you should watch the 2002 film Bubba Ho-Tep, with Bruce Campbell playing a retired Elvis in a Nursing home. In the film he and a very old JFK have to battle an egyptian mummy, as the tagline says "The King of Rock vs. The King of the Dead". I realise it's an relatively old film to be pimping but it well worth watching whether or not you are a Campbell fan or not as it's incredibly funny, with an extremely poignant ending. http://imdb.com/title/tt0281686/

    --
    Promote Charity on Myspace, Show Your Colours!
    1. Re:Bubba ho-tep by poopdeville · · Score: 1

      Oh god, the ending was the worst part. I'm not going to spoil it for people out there, because it's still worth watching, but the mummy has nothing to do with why this movie is good.

      --
      After all, I am strangely colored.
    2. Re:Bubba ho-tep by cozinator · · Score: 1

      This movie was a blast to watch. I've shown it to a few people who hadn't heard of it, and they were blown away, mainly because they don't expect a film with such a ridiculous premise to actually draw you in and make you care about the characters. Easily one of my favorites of 2002.

  26. It is sad... by evenprime · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It is sad that slashdot focuses on the tabloid side of the interview instead of the surprising stuff: the king of B-grade horror movies has turned out what is supposed to be a really good educational documentary about land management.

    --

    "Weapons should be hardy rather than decorative" - Miyamoto Musashi
    I think that goes for OS's too
    1. Re:It is sad... by deesine · · Score: 0


      Ya...because real nerds are into land management.

      ...

      ok

      --
      damaged by dogma
    2. Re:It is sad... by evenprime · · Score: 1
      I said: It is sad that slashdot focuses on the tabloid side of the interview....

      desine sarcastically opined: Ya...because real nerds are into land management.


      It may never have occured to you that it takes a lot more brains to make well informed documentaries than it does to gossip about movie stars. In fact, Bruce's tendency to know so much about a topic that does NOT involve his career seems very nerdy. He'd probably be a really fun guy to talk to.
      --

      "Weapons should be hardy rather than decorative" - Miyamoto Musashi
      I think that goes for OS's too
  27. Re:WTF? by TheoMurpse · · Score: 1

    It took me a whole minute to figure out that you were referencing Star Wars with that.

    In fact, I would wonder why a Harrison Ford book was showing up on /.

    That being said, I acknowledge that it doesnt' have to be all computers all the time (hence Harry Potter news making it to the front page).

  28. Re:Huh? Where did this come from? by fafaforza · · Score: 1

    +1 Funny

  29. Er, wait??? Calling Bruce Campbell a bad actor??? by KiloByte · · Score: 1, Funny

    Alright you primitive screwheads listen up. This is my BOOMSTICK! Its a twelve gauge double barrel remington. S-Mart's top of the line. You'll find this in the sporting goods department. Thats right, this sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids Michigan. It retails for about 109.95. It's got a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel and a hair trigger. Thats right, shop smart. Shop S-Mart. You got that!?

    --
    The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
  30. translation: by SA+Stevens · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "because in between shots Tom wanted to help people kick drugs and alcohol. "

    translates:

    "because in between shots Tom wanted to help people convert over from drugs and alcohol to scientology."

    1. Re:translation: by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      Thanks for making that clear for the few who may not be familiar with scientologists.

      Why waste your money on drugs when you can give it all to Scientology after all ?

      --

      May contain traces of nut.
      Made from the freshest electrons.
    2. Re:translation: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unlike the other religions which just want you to cower in fear their god who gives kids cancer.

    3. Re:translation: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefer this translation" "...because in between shots Tom wanted to give the media trash something to report on so that he got more free publicity so that his crappy remake movie would make more money to give to the scientologists."

    4. Re:translation: by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      Isn't Scientology all about fightig the aliens from outer space who give kids cancer - by paying all your money so you can read how to do it?

      --

      Lars T.

      To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck

  31. Der Spiegel Interview by johaness · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    'Actor Tom Cruise talks about his 20-year membership in the Church of Scientology as he and Director Steven Spielberg discuss the filming of the soon-to-be-released "War of the Worlds." The film, coming out June 29, plays off Americans' fears about terrorism. Spielberg says he has always wanted to direct a "really mean invasion from outer space." Cruise insists, "I just want to help people." '

    http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/spie gel/0,1518,353577,00.html

  32. cease and desist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    theft is capitalism

    1. Re:cease and desist by Tekzel · · Score: 1

      Say... what?!?

    2. Re:cease and desist by nickos · · Score: 1

      Maybe he meant to say that "property is theft". I don't know what that's got to do with anything though...

  33. bash scientology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is the point of this seemingly totally random story being posted on slashdot? Most likely, it is to provide a forum for bashing scientology. The editors may be a little leary of posting an anti-scientology story directly (see Scientologists Force Comment Off Slashdot)

    So let the basing begin! It is certainly deserved. I'd like to start by bashing the people who actually sign up for this crap. Like Tom Cruise. I can't think of any surer way to prove you're a flake that to be a scientologist, or perhaps maybe a Wickan. What I seriously wonder if the success of these fake religions reflects more a failing of the American education system, or is this a more basic display of how overrated the average human intelligence is?

    1. Re:bash scientology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't think of any surer way to prove you're a flake that to be a scientologist, or perhaps maybe a Wickan

      At least the none of the Wiccans I have met had to pay money for the privilege of being Wiccans.

    2. Re:bash scientology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't think of any surer way to prove you're a flake that to be a scientologist, or perhaps maybe a Wickan.

      Ri-i-i-ight. Christianity/Judism/Islam is so much more logical, what with their 6000-year-old universe, and their psychotic god who kills people in front of their children for looking in the wrong direction (Lot's wife), etc..

    3. Re:bash scientology by mink · · Score: 1

      " I can't think of any surer way to prove you're a flake that to be a scientologist, or perhaps maybe a Wickan"

      Yah, that whole Wiccan "do no harm" thing is really evil and hurtful to others.

      For the record I'm agnostic.

      --
      Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
  34. Re:WTF? by KaptNKrunchy · · Score: 1

    This is news for old housewives with subbscriptions to National Enquirer and People. And I could probably count all of them who also read /. on my left hand.

  35. Bruce Campbells Best Film by fudg3tunn3l · · Score: 0

    Bubba Ho-Tep. Baby.

    --
    Resident of Skara Brae since 1985
  36. TOM CRUISE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tom Cruise is a class act.

    I never see him putting others down. Rather than generally make less of someone, he addresses issues (i.e. pyschiatry as the pseudoscience it is, not Brook Shields) and has an interest in helping people (i.e. his work in education via the Hollywood Education and Literacy Project, or his aiding of NY fireman post 911 through detoxification centers).

    I am a fan of his, so to keep the record straight: War of the Worlds opened with $112.7 million USD domestically over it's 6 day debut and was the best opening of his career and the second best opening of Spielberg's career.

    I find his honesty and genuine care for others refreshing. Examining the actual data (see above), we'll see that he isn't hurting his career.

    And if Bruce would take a real look as well, which isn't his intention, he would probably realize that he could learn about more than just acting from Tom Cruise.

    1. Re:TOM CRUISE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was a suspicious use of the word "data", in the context of talking about scientology...

      And when you mention the 9/11 detox stuff, are you referring to the Purification Rundown? Yeah, that would be good for you!

    2. Re:TOM CRUISE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Tom Cruise is a freaking nut job.

      He completely attacked and condemned Brook Shields for her choice of publicizing her experiences.

      He is a hypocrite for having the nerve to attack someone for their own belief in their experiences when he isn't able to not blather on endlessly about his own.

      He isn't honest or sincere when he claims to be helping people. His exchange of addictions to drugs for addictions to crackpot religions is completely offensive. His personal resentment for "pseudo-science" is based purely on the fact that they told him that he was hyperactive and had behavioral issues when he was a child.

      There is one main reason that WotW did so well, the scientologists all went to see it , in order to support Tom and thereby support their own income they went, probably multiple times to make it seem to everybody else like it was a worthwhile movie, rather than some remake POS. Don't try to suggest that an organization with the money that the scientologists have didn't have a direct effect on the amount of money that Tom's POS movie made.

    3. Re:TOM CRUISE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spoken like a true Scientologist shill.

    4. Re:TOM CRUISE by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      Much of medicine is pseudoscientific. Until computers get more powerful and we can model pieces of the body, I suspect it will always be so. But it sure beats his alternative: being a member of a religious cult which turns people into zombies while, ahem, relieving them of their cash by paying for theology classes.

    5. Re:TOM CRUISE by avik42 · · Score: 1

      hmm is it me or does this sound too much like christianity? :) All religion does that, swipe money from the swipable. Deliver from addiction and pain "through the path of God" At least in Scientology EVERYONE is welcome and equal. I am still trying get over the fact that I am suppose to hate homosexuals even though they are "made in God's image" and God teaches us through his Son to love all his creatures. I wouldn't be the one to point the hypocrit stick. -- If you believe something Challenge it everday. Blind faith is not relgion, it's fanaticism.

    6. Re:TOM CRUISE by cqnn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      All religions and philosophies expect a person
      to be willing to examine and modify thier lifestyle in
      order to achieve some higher level of enlightenment.

      But most religions do not expect you to pay your
      way to paradise in cash. Or to have to pay to
      gain the teachings of the faithful.

      In fact, much like Open Source, most religions
      are perfectly happy with giving away their
      teachings to anyone interested in learning more.

      Also like Open Source, it can be open for abuse by
      those who do not accurately apply what they have learned,
      or attempt to modify what is available in less beneficial
      ways.

      Not all distributions of Religion expect you to act,
      Love, or Hate in the same way. Some want you to
      abide by thier CodeBase, and reject strange and
      unusual package management tools. Others allow
      you to roll your own, and encourage the expression
      of ideas and exploration into new areas of application.
      And some are based on a foundation of mutual trust
      and respect, with the goal of being totally free and
      beneficial to all who come to build on the community.

      Blindly challenging everything is not belief, it is a
      lack of Scientific Detachment.

    7. Re:TOM CRUISE by avik42 · · Score: 1

      I agree to everything you said to some degree or other. Until the last line. Nowhere I said, challenge everything. I said challenge what you belive. Because that is the only way to stay true to your belief.

      Part of evolution is changing and adopting from our mistakes. I shudder the day when noone makes any mistake.

      Cheers.

      Appreciated your thought. That was a fun read.

    8. Re:TOM CRUISE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Christianity doesn't require an entry fee though.

      You just need to give them your soul.

      That's more like an exit fee.

    9. Re:TOM CRUISE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop
      posting
      in
      narrow
      columns,
      you
      narrow-c olumn-posting
      freak.

      If
      people
      want
      to
      view
      your
      post
      all
      scr unched
      up,
      they
      can
      resize
      their
      browsers'
      windows
      accordingly.

      Posting
      in
      narrow
      columns
      is
      just
      so
      fuck ing
      obnoxious.

      Your comment has too few characters per line (currently 5.3). Your comment has too few characters per line (currently 5.3). Your comment has too few characters per line (currently 5.3).

    10. Re:TOM CRUISE by mink · · Score: 1

      "His personal resentment for "pseudo-science" is based purely on the fact that they told him that he was hyperactive and had behavioral issues when he was a child."

      Funny thing is if you watch him now as an adult you see him acting all hyperactive and with major behavioral issues.

      The movie was not total crap. Right when he pointed out the Birds I said "The Martians got SARS!" and that made the entire time/cost worth it. I liked how much more of the book they worked in compared to the previous big budget version.
      The pendragon film was also quite good, but it's maor weknesses were in composing crowd scenes and the bad CGI for the skeletons and Thunderchild fight.

      --
      Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
  37. Whither the renaissance geek? (OT) by Stu+Charlton · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm noticing a disturbing trend here.

    One of the reasons I joined Slashdot in the first place (in late 1997) was the wide variety of geek-like interests that CmdrTaco and Hemos held -- from Linux / BSD / UNIX, to Perl, free sw / open source, Python, C, or Java programming, to gaming, to crackers/pirates, to Jon Katz's sometimes-interesting rants on culture, to cult movies, to casemods, to online rights, and a curious & growing interest in Apple (Jobs had just rejoined), etc.

    But now there seems to be a lot of geeks that have a real track mind. They don't know classic cult TV or movie heros. They bitch about music / musicians because they're not a kernel mod. They hate TV or movie news (Battlestar sucks, Firefly sucks, Buffy/Angel sucked, Babylon 5 sucked, etc. --- What do you watch, The Weather Channel?).

    Basically, all they want to talk shop! It's all about is Linux, or FOSS license pro/cons, or how Apache, MySQL, perl, etc. will somehow create a New Geek World Order.

    What happened to the renaissance geek? Where's the passion for the obscure and beautiful, no matter the subject area?

    --
    -Stu
    1. Re:Whither the renaissance geek? (OT) by 44BSD · · Score: 1

      They're all hanging at the ren faire with the rest of the SCA contingent.

    2. Re:Whither the renaissance geek? (OT) by unscripted.ai · · Score: 1

      He's trolling WoW forums and touching himself.
      I feel the pain though, the man that can't indulge in a little fantasy (however bad it may be) is truly culture poor. To quote a classic "at least my bad fiction doesn't require two thousand dollars of hardware."

    3. Re:Whither the renaissance geek? (OT) by dykmoby · · Score: 1, Interesting

      As Bruce said at the end of the interview, the country is getting way too serious. Proof enough within these pages.

      --
      Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt = [citation required]
    4. Re:Whither the renaissance geek? (OT) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      What happened to the renaissance geek? Where's the passion for the obscure and beautiful, no matter the subject area?

      Bravo, and well said!

      All my hobbies are geeky - computer games, programming, database design (I get paid for those last two), model trains, cooking, gardening, music...

      I may not have much of a life, but I'm sure enjoying the one I've got!

    5. Re:Whither the renaissance geek? (OT) by Klaus+Obermeyer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The Slashdot community is not an amporphous mass with perfectly identical interests - outside of course the mutual interest in computers.

      Just because a few people don't like Firefly, Babylon 5 or other shows does not mean the majorty of the community does not. The same person posting those "Babylon 5 Sucks!" comments might very well be the loudest champion of Firefly.

      It might seem Slashdotters want only to talk shop because that is the one thing they do all agree on. They all have different interests of course but these interests are not all the same.

    6. Re:Whither the renaissance geek? (OT) by donweel · · Score: 1

      I have also noticed this, you only have to mention the word, "audiophile" and you can observe an instant negative response. I find it ironic that now that it is ok to be a geek that the geeks are bashing a group because some consider them odd.

      --
      Many a long talk since then I have had with the man in the moon; he had my confidence on the voyage. Joshua Slocum
    7. Re:Whither the renaissance geek? (OT) by espressojim · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you're really enjoying your life, then it *is* "that much of a life". Just because you don't have someone else's ideal life doesn't make yours any less ideal for you.

      It's subjective, so start telling other people who tell you that you're life isn't good enough for *them* to...kindly...fuck off.

    8. Re:Whither the renaissance geek? (OT) by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      We burned out on Slashdot and are now hanging out over here. ;)

    9. Re:Whither the renaissance geek? (OT) by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 1

      we're all in the /. timeout because the new mods don't understand our humor, and keep modding us "troll".

      either that, or scientologists are after me.

      --
      If you don't know what AltaVista is (was), get off my lawn.
    10. Re:Whither the renaissance geek? (OT) by Weaselmancer · · Score: 1

      Just wanted to say that your post should be /.'s first +6 Insightful.

      You're *exactly* right.

      --
      Weaselmancer
      rediculous.
    11. Re:Whither the renaissance geek? (OT) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "What do you watch, The Weather Channel?"

      how about.. ummm... nothing?

      TV sucks, youre better off without it.

    12. Re:Whither the renaissance geek? (OT) by Cruciform · · Score: 1

      This is a trend that happens in any community. It continues to grow while the people that made the community in the first place grow older, expand their range of interests, and become more passive or leave altogether.

      Couple this with the fact that in most online communities you have an extremely opinionated/vocal minority and before you know it, it's not the community you joined.

      But usually someone from the original community has a moment of nostalgia and starts a new hive, and people slowly gravitate to it. And so the cycle begins anew.

      For extreme examples of the "vocal minority complex" visit any gaming forum and observe that even in a community of 10,000 people there will be about 10% with 90% of the posts. Of that 90% of the posts, actual contributions of meaningful dialog may actually amount to 10% or less. Someone could do a thesis on this :)

    13. Re:Whither the renaissance geek? (OT) by rjh · · Score: 1

      Howdy, Stu; nice low UID. As you can probably figure out, I've been here for a good while, too--not as long as you, but a good while.

      I think what happened to Slashdot is it got popular, and nobody--least of all Taco--knows how to deal with popularity. When Slashdot was the land of five-digit UIDs, as it was when I came, there was no karma system, there was no friend or foe system. It wasn't needed; the place was small enough that people knew other people. You'd have a long and fruitful argument with someone else, and you'd look for that person in the comments. It's all good. It works.

      The turning point was, I think, the Columbine shootings. The number of responses to Jon Katz's "Hellmouth" stories was astronomical, and deservedly so. After the Hellmouth stories, we began to see threads with 500 responses... then 700... and now Slashdot routinely breaks 2000 responses for stories of particular interest. With that kind of anonymity, it makes it very tempting for people to act as if there's nobody watching and no social consequences for action.

      When people believe there are no social consequences for their actions, a lot of them will turn into barbarians (c.f. Penny Arcade). Belligerency rises. Topics which before would receive polite silence are now greeted with "WTF who cares about washed-up movie actors?!?". Tolerance has vanished, as has the willingness to learn; the power of the anonymity of crowds leads many people into the willingness to be jerks.

      For a year now I've been seriously tempted to leave Slashdot. I'm tired of what you noticed as the disturbing trend. I'm tired of it, and I don't know why I keep on contributing my time and my thinking to a site which increasingly appears to value conformity over individuality, certainty over knowledge, the mob over the man.

      Conformity over individuality? If I were to say, in a programming thread, that I think SML/NJ is one of the finest programming languages out there--and I do, and I have great reasons for believing so--I'll get a sea of anonymous cowards shouting down that SML/NJ is a crap tool and a lousy language and that's why nobody uses it. How many of these people will have ever written code in SML/NJ? How many of these people will have ever written more than a thousand lines in SML/NJ? How many of these people are qualified to have an opinion? How many of these people are condemning my choice not because my choice is bad, but because my choice isn't C (or whatever other languages are the choice-of-conformity on Slashdot)? The barbarians in the crowd condemn not "bad languages", but individuality.

      Certainty over knowledge? Take a look at how many people are just dead certain of things that just aren't so. If someone condemns C++ because it's not typesafe, if they phrase it loudly and with great certainty, they'll get modded up to +5, despite the fact it's barkingly wrong. (Any realistic C++ program will make extensive use of type safety.) But if someone makes a careful and articulate post explaining the things they know for a fact, the things they suspect might be true, and the things they just don't know on... these people aren't heeded. Because on Slashdot, it's all about the certainty, not the knowledge, and especially not the knowledge that your knowledge has limits.

      The mob over the man? This one can be shown just by looking at any thread. There's a definite mob mentality here, and I don't like it.

      Taco, if you're reading this--what do you think about all this? Can you give me, and/or other long-time Slashdotters who feel likewise, hope for the future? What's going on here?

      Why am I still here?

      I'm not being sarcastic, I'm not being insolent. I'd like to stay here. I'm just not certain there's a reason to anymore.

    14. Re:Whither the renaissance geek? (OT) by cqnn · · Score: 1

      Thank you. If I had the mod points, I'd credit
      that post as a fine example of what Insightful
      was meant to be at slashdot.

      As to why you are still here... perhaps because
      you still seek the same community that you started with, and have not found an alternative
      forum that both offers what you fell slashdot
      used to provide, and one that does not have
      former /. members promoting it as the anti-slashdot.

      I wish you luck in finding it, or in waiting out
      the cycle wherein some other site becomes the next big forum, and slashdot returns to its former modesty.

    15. Re:Whither the renaissance geek? (OT) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that the general geek culture going audiophile bashing is because audiophiles are thought to be full of shit.

    16. Re:Whither the renaissance geek? (OT) by RockModeNick · · Score: 1

      I collect vintage 70's Sansui solid states, and I've noticed in many parts of the stereo world audiophile seems to no longer mean someone that loves their audio equiptment, but a group that perpetuates urban myths and outdated audio information.

    17. Re:Whither the renaissance geek? (OT) by brettper · · Score: 1

      But if someone makes a careful and articulate post explaining the things they know for a fact, the things they suspect might be true, and the things they just don't know on... these people aren't heeded. Because on Slashdot, it's all about the certainty, not the knowledge, and especially not the knowledge that your knowledge has limits.
      I'd argue that this is a society-level problem and certainly not restricted to /. The media is full of interviews and news stories focussed on left-extreme vs right-extreme with no thought for the sensible middle ground where most people probably hang out

    18. Re:Whither the renaissance geek? (OT) by object88 · · Score: 1

      What happened to the renaissance geek? Where's the passion for the obscure and beautiful, no matter the subject area?

      They're all to busy R'ing TFA to post responses.

  38. Re:WTF? by Antonymous+Flower · · Score: 1

    The phrase "cult classic" is code for "nerd culture." Bruce Campbell is, literally, the king of cult classicism. Thus..

  39. Re:Huh? Where did this come from? by Stormwatch · · Score: 3, Funny

    Netcraft confirms it: evil is dead.

  40. You got it wrong too by TheOrquithVagrant · · Score: 1

    Braindead was Jackson's _third_ movie.

    Between Bad Taste and Braindead, there was the hilarious little muppets-for-adults movie "Meet the Feebles".

    And personally, as fun as Bad Taste is, I don't think it was better than Braindead.

  41. Re:Er, wait??? Calling Bruce Campbell a bad actor? by script_daddy · · Score: 1

    Er.. While I appreciate your valiant defence of Bruce Campbell's acting skills (hail to the king, baby!), I'm pretty sure the parent was refering to Tom Cruise. In the article Bruce mentions that he feels Tom Cruise should "shut up and act". You know, reading TFA once in a while might help that temper thing you've got going there ;)

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  42. Re:WTF? by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 1

    'side from all the arguments, good ol 'Bruce also starred in a computer game, "Tachyon: the Fringe" to be exact. And quite honestly, without him making snide remarks as one goes around shooting folks it really isn't all that much of a game...

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  43. Re:WTF? by noamt · · Score: 1

    Some of us nerds have interests and skills beyond pure technology, Linux, and programming.

    That phenomenon must stop, ASAP.

  44. The question is by Darkman,+Walkin+Dude · · Score: 1

    Do you like taking it up the arrse as much as Tom Cruise does?

  45. Re:WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So old housewives are fans of the Evil Dead trilogy now? Fuck'n moron.

  46. Re:Er, wait??? Calling Bruce Campbell a bad actor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (posting AC, this post doesn't deserve a high score)

    Doh.

  47. Say it again, bitch! by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 1

    Say "left" again! I bet you get a shiny nickel every time you do!

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    1. Re:Say it again, bitch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Left. Bitch.

  48. Lets see .... by PenGun · · Score: 0

    click ... crack, GROOVY.

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  49. I tried making love the Bruce Cambell way... by rshane · · Score: 1

    But my girlfriend got freaked out when I pulled out the chansaw. :(

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    1. Re:I tried making love the Bruce Cambell way... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pulling out too soon. Girls hate that.

  50. Re:Huh? Where did this come from? by donweel · · Score: 1

    Also in the original Blood PC game: http://www.videogamereview.com/cat/pc-games/classi c-pcgames/classic-action/gt-interactive/PRD_81330_ 1460crx.aspx there was at least one line used, "good bad I'm the guy with the gun" when you beat the final boss, But the voice was Clint Eastwood like.

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  51. Re:Bruce who? by Skavookie · · Score: 1

    Ok admittedly I don't get out much and don't have much idea what goes on in that place they call "real life" but I, at least, did not know who Bruce Campbell was and appreciated the clarification.

  52. Re:WTF? by lousyd · · Score: 1
    Everyone that reads /. is not a programmer. Some of us nerds have interests and skills beyond pure technology, Linux, and programming.

    Then go somewhere else to discuss those interests and skills.

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  53. News for nerds? Maybe. Stuff that matters? by blcss · · Score: 1

    Definitely not.

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  54. Re:WTF? by Seumas · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When it comes to being a geek, Bruce Campbell DOES matter. He is brilliant, quirky, hilarious and has produced some of our collectively favorite movies as well as a couple very honest, sincere, well-written books.

    I've had the pleasure of meeting the man in real life (he lives in Medford, Oregon) and though I've met a long of noteworthy people, none have been so charming and friendly and unrushed as he was. Bruce Campbell may not be a Tom Cruise, but he has a viewpoint and a way of looking at the entertainment business that would benefit most of today's "hot stars/starlets" to adopt.

    Buckaroo Bonzai, Adventures of Brisco County Junior, Evil Dead series... HELLO?! He makes nothing BUT geek films. This is incredibly on-topic for Slashdot. A-fucking-men.

  55. Re:WTF? by NeMon'ess · · Score: 1

    Like the AC said, old housewives don't care about Evil Dead and Bruce Campbell. Particularly the ones who read the National Enquirer and probably People.

  56. Re:WTF? by lousyd · · Score: 1
    Everyone that reads /. is not a programmer.

    That's a pretty bold statement. Nobody here is a programmer? I'd say at least a simple majority are. -todd

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  57. Re:Bruce who? by TopShelf · · Score: 1

    That's completely understandable - what I was picking on in the parent post was the mention of a bunch of "who is this guy" posts. There simply aren't any...

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  58. Re:News for nerds? Maybe. Stuff that matters? No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Be fair. Your post was neither.

  59. Any opportunity to bash Scientology by Associate · · Score: 1

    It took me a short while to think of it, but I think the alternate title to WotW was Xenu's Revenge, or something like that.

    I haven't seen the movie but from what I've heard, Cruise spends most of it running from danger. That's not the Bruce Campbell way. From the Campbell movies I've seen, he takes the approach of the comman man when presented with something scarry. He grabs a gun and blasts a hole in something, preferably an alien.

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  60. Re:WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go away! We don't want your kind here!

  61. Reminds me of Homer Simpson by Om · · Score: 1


    Tom wanted to help people kick drugs and alcohol.

    Yeah, best of luck with that.

    "I would kill everyone in this room [tent] for a drop of sweet beer."

    ++Homer

    ++Om

  62. Well, this is very curious. The very moment I by blcss · · Score: 1

    posted the above, I got pings on my honeypot, from slashdot.org. On ports 3127 and 1026 it tried to fetch the URL http://slashdot.org/ok.txt, User-Agent: libwww-perl/5.803 This isn't the fist time I've seen hits from Slashdot. Is this the OTHER Slashdot effect?

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  63. Re:WTF? by PhoenixFlare · · Score: 1

    That's a pretty bold statement. Nobody here is a programmer? I'd say at least a simple majority are. -todd

    Sorry, I guess I phrased that badly - I meant to say that not everyone who reads Slashdot is a programmer, meaning that less than 100% of the readership belong to that profession. No more early-morning posting for me.

  64. Yeah, right. by LKM · · Score: 1
    Tom Cruise is a class act.

    yeah, right.

  65. Re:WTF? by PhoenixFlare · · Score: 1

    Then go somewhere else to discuss those interests and skills.

    Why? Is "News for Nerds" defined that way somewhere, and i've just missed it? I don't seem to see anything saying "News for Nerds, unless it's not about technology."

  66. Re:WTF? by Tycho_Atreides · · Score: 1

    Wow, heres an ingenius idea. If you're not interested in a post, how about you not read it?

  67. Tom Cruise was acting.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You know, Oprah, I help people. I just have a reputation for that."

    That is fucking acting. Tom Cruise is a delusional fucking idiot. His whole life is a fantasy act. Does Tom Cruise ever go a day without acting?

  68. Re:Article text...OT comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aye..Bad Taste is a true classic. They came out with a special DVD not too long ago. There's nothing like sitting around with good friends, watching B-horror movies like Bad Taste, Evil Dead, anything based off of H.P. Lovecraft (Herbert West movies or Dagon for example) and etc...It's even better if they are still your friends after watching all those flicks.

  69. Please Stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My Xenu Forces Me To Return To The Simple Life Of A Clam.

    http://clammy.parodyaudio.com/

    --oogle

  70. Scientology again... by Bubba+Bui · · Score: 1

    In the past year or so I think Scientology has been putting the screws on its celebrity members to speak out publicly in its favor. Up until then they avoided any mention of it, but I've noticed lately they're all yapping about how wonderful scientology is and how much it has helped them. What a bunch of fucktards. If you have any doubts, check out http://www.clambake.org/ for the truth about scientology. Their "teachings" are so moronic it's scary. Poor Tommy paid something like half a million smackeroos (probably a lot more) to progressively learn the story of Xenu, the evil alien overlord, and its sticky engram traps. How can anybody have any respect for this spectacularly idiotic man?

  71. Score -5, copyright violation by gomel · · Score: 1

    That's great, copy the whole article from a site which has created it to earn money. And you /.-moderators are encouraging this behaviour by modding this +5 informative.

    I wonder why you didn't post this under your own /.-nick ; maybe it's because you know it was wrong, but you wanted to do this anyway and yet escape the consequences...

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    1. Re:Score -5, copyright violation by Osmosis_Garett · · Score: 1

      Mabye if the article was still in the location that was linked to, this 'copywrite violation' wouldn't need be here. Also, the readers of slashdot are the ones who do the majority of the scoring (read up on metamoderation), and so don't harass the moderators.

    2. Re:Score -5, copyright violation by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 1

      The answer is simple: He (or she) rejects the premise of copyright and is acting upon that. He doen't consider it to be wrong, or he wouldn't have done it.

      It got moderated +5 informative because the majority of people also reject copyright and do not consider it to be wrong, or there would have been more negative moderations than positive.

      It's possible that he posted anonymously out of fear of consequences, consequences do seem to have supplanted a healthy morality as the reason for any legal compliance these days, but I'd say it's more likely that he wants to be moderated on the basis of his points and opinions rather than on the basis of a casual petty rejection of something everyone knows to be wrong (aka copyright). That's just my opinion there...

      But then, you weren't really looking for an answer, were you. You just wanted to put forth your own opinion and have a bit of a rant, but you didn't have the decency to do so in an upstanding sort of fashion, you had to twist it around so your opinion (that violating copyright is wrong) was presented as a fact beyond discussion and anyone who disagrees with you is a morally reprehensable person.

      So, I give myself permission to flame a bit...

      Why don't you just fuck off?

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    3. Re:Score -5, copyright violation by Doctor_Jest · · Score: 1

      Wow. Way to be a complete prick. +10 asshole moderation.

      Who died and left you in charge?

      Or better yet... (from Van Wilder:)

      "If you're here... who's running hell?"

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  72. Re:WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone that reads /. is not a programmer. Some of us nerds have interests and skills beyond pure technology, Linux, and programming.

    Yea, we can eat more doritos than anyone else

  73. Shut up about Tom Cruise and... by east+coast · · Score: 1

    I recently got to see Bruce touring with Man with the Screaming Brain and his new book, Make Love the Bruce Campbell Way. Not only did I get my book signed but also a great half-hour Q&A session with the audience before the film. It was worth it and I recomend any Bruce Campbell fan check it out.

    And the book is a great read for those of you into the Mike Nelson style of writing.

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  74. Salon is flat out socialist. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1
    Which is completely in-kilter with many of the NPR listening commies and greens that hang out here.

    But Slashdot commies are generally pups. Most will grow out of it.

    Salon commies however are generally 60s hangovers who have maintained their 'purity' by living in liberal enclaves far from reality.

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  75. Wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a plot?

  76. well I get that by Stu+Charlton · · Score: 1

    I mean, even in the "good 'ol days" the KDE vs. Gnome wars were incessant.

    Saying "XYZ sucks!" I guess is a bad example. What I really am complaining about are the "What is XYZ? How is this related to Linux? How is this news for nerds?" posts.

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  77. Why are we still here? by Stu+Charlton · · Score: 1

    Well, I find some of the poster personalities fascinating and entertaining. And I find the quirkiness of the editors (Taco in particular) amusing.

    But mostly I'm still here because I see the odd Insightful post that turns me onto something new - an idea, a project, etc. Or I get into a good debate about some kind of subject.

    For example, I've known about ML, Caml, OCaml, etc., but I've frankly never heard of SML/NJ. So I'm checking it out. I deal mostly with mainstream stuff (working for BEA Systems), but I do like to keep tabs on the future.

    As for "mob over man", I think you're quite right that all communities devolve to this, and Slashdot always had this (remember the KDE/Gnome flamefests?), which is why karma and moderation was introduced. I think it works fairly well compared to other large scale message boards.

    Slashdot.... It's messy, annoying, dirty, occaisionally funny and rarely, but somewhat continuously, insightful. It's just disappointing that the new class of "nerd" seems to be more interested in narrow topics over broad ones.

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  78. well, admittedly by Stu+Charlton · · Score: 1

    the scenery is better :-)

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  79. Re:WTF? by MemoryAid · · Score: 1

    I just took an informal poll of myself and my two cats, who have both posted to Slashdot (I recognized their typing style in a couple of posts), and 100% indicated non-programmerness. Therefore, I boldly assert that nobody here is a programmer, even though the dogs did not respond to the poll.

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  80. Re:WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe a bit late on this post, but Bruce had nothing to do with "The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension".

    Everything else you listed was correct.

  81. Re:WTF? by Seumas · · Score: 1

    Hah. You're right... I was thinking of Peter Weller :)

  82. Re: Your sig by some+guy+I+know · · Score: 1
    Your sig:
    - I think typing "I, for one" is redundant and annoying. Stop it.
    You just gave me my new sig.
    Thanks.
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  83. it's wrong, still. by gomel · · Score: 1

    > It got moderated +5 informative because the majority of people also reject copyright

    that's the problem i'm talking about.

    > something everyone knows to be wrong (aka copyright). That's just my opinion there...

    NO. Certainly not everyone.

    > You just wanted to put forth your own opinion and have a bit of a rant,
    > but you didn't have the decency to do so in an upstanding sort of fashion,
    > you had to twist it around so your opinion (that violating copyright is wrong)
    > was presented as a fact beyond discussion and anyone who disagrees with you
    > is a morally reprehensable person.

    1) , It's a FACT, that violating copyright is illegal since 1886 and as of 2005 in 159 countries. Illegal, that's WRONG by law, q.e.d. You can have your moral opinion whether these are good laws, but not a legal opinion.

    2) The Salon staff explicitly says that they do not want it to be copied. That's a violation of their wishes. "Reproduction of material from any Salon pages without written permission is strictly prohibited Copyright 2005 Salon.com"

    3) Everyone can read the article, if they go to salon.com and click through the "free site pass" and watch the ads. You don't have to spend any money, just a little time and effort. If you don't do that then Salon.com will have to close shop and there will be no other interview with Bruce Campbell to copy violate around, all because of your lazyness.

    4) Bruce Campbell's movies are protected by EXACTLY THE SAME LAW that Salon's article is. If they were not, they would had been never produced and there would be no article to write about.

    5) Linux's source code is protected by EXACTLY THE SAME LAW that Salon's article is (GPL). If there was no copyright Microsoft would simply copy linux into it's own code base.

    6) The above situation #5 happened to the crew of mplayer. With copyright they have a legal way to prevent it.
    http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html #kiss01

    "It has been brought to my attention, that the now famous KiSS Technology - already in violation of the GNU General Public License - has been confirmed stealing another program which is also completely under the GPL license."

    "Every single one of their patterns match ours! This is not coincidence. This is stealing GPL code into a proprietary product! KiSS Technology failed to answer our inquiry for their source files (which they are obligated to provide)"

    7) Even slashdot disagrees with you. Look at the bottom of this page.
    "All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective owners. Comments are owned by the Poster. The Rest © 1997-2005 OSTG."

    >So, I give myself permission to flame a bit...
    > Why don't you just fuck off?

    Now that was extra decent. pot/kettle/black.

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  84. it's still there by gomel · · Score: 1

    the article is still there and is accessible to everyone.

    Apparently you have no clue how salon's "free site pass" works.

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