yea I plugged in my Gamecube controller to see how the control style was with it and couldnt figure it out. Big oversight not having the controls listed for a controller.. that said I whoop ass with the Wii-mote on Tenkaichi 2.
The expansion would have to be rated because it is released by the company who created the game, any mods that were created by the company would likely also have to be rated.
Player made mods and such would not be applicable as they are not created by the company. If this was the case pretty much every PC game that is mod able would be considered AO.
Of course if this is what you meant then its all good.
I would rather the industry was self regulated, instead of having big government come in, who has no effin clue about games and tell us what we can and cannot have.
The ESRB isn't holding back the AO games, its society, its the general consensus that video games are still just for kids and therefore we have to protect the children from bad content. This idea is changing, though slower than we might like. The boundaries are being pushed slowly allowing for more and more "adult/graphic" content. This isn't just meaning titties and extreme violence but, mature story lines and content that we identify with better instead of the usually spiky haired hero saves the day. Content that makes you think, challenges your ideals and makes the game more than just press button to shoot gun.
As we all have noticed our games and gaming habits are in the media spotlight, legislators and politicians as well as ambulance chasers and attention whores all have there two bits to say about how games are bad and this and that. Like Rock and Roll and Dungeons and Dragons, Video games are the scapegoat of the year and its up to us gamers to work with our system and to make people see that there fears and concerns are unfounded and a bunch of FUD.
We are parents, grandparents, business owners, teachers and responsible individuals, we play games, we love our games because we grew up with them. Its still a new medium and its slowly getting to be accepted and seen as more than just for kids.
THE WAYS.... oh man I forgot about Wheel of Time.. Shadar Logoth was creepy.. effin Mashadar.. but when I got to where you Travel the Ways and the black wind is coming at you.. ooooh damn.. that is creepy.
First time you run into one of those... they got me good. I jumped and sprayed bullets everywhere.
I love horror movies, very few have actually scared me. FEAR creeped me out.. Call Of Cthulu Dark Side of the Earth, that creeps me out havent finished it yet. System Shock 2 gave me some good jumps (back in the day) Clive Barkers undying had me going good. The original Alone in the Dark... yea that was creepy.
Video games are full of titles that I got scared from, horror movies not so much. But damn, I love well done special effects, so I keep watching horror.
Just because you are given a choice in a game doesnt mean you are all of a sudden not following the creators story anymore.
We havent reached a point where games have significant AI where everytime you play through a story the ending will be different. All your endings are already written and apart of the story, you just happen to choose which one you end up seeing. The story is already made and is apart of what the storyteller wants you to see.
You are still apart of the artists vision, its just that his vision includes more than one view.
They dont live in a medevil fantasy world either, but they managed to make a pretty awesome fantasy world to bomb around in.
I am just willing to give them a chance, unlike NMA who have been screeching that the spirit of fallout is being raped with a rusty spiked dildo attached to a red rider bb gun.
Didnt know what to think about Bestheda getting getting the rights to Fallout, I knew it wasnt going to be isometric and that worried me, but after playing through STALKER I have to say I am looking forward to what this game might become. Stalker was able to make a great First Person Shooter that wasnt too linear and told a great story with a great atmosphere. Creepy, desolate enviroments, I can look at Fallout 3 and think of getting attacked my a Bloodsucker in Stalker and applied it to be a Bloodclaw instead.
The humor and the inside jokes need to remain tho, hopefully whoever pens the script for the game has a clue, as well shitty voice actors wont be appreciated either.. blowing your cash on getting Patrick Stewart to say like 5 lines and letting the rest of the voice acting suck ass wont do.
Blipverts arent entertaining! This is just a devious ruse to make all gamers who watch it spontainiously combust. Probably triggers when you get to the add for Zelda on the phillips CD-I.
The practices of this company to sucker in people to buy there software is highly dubious.
When you use spy-ware, malware to create a problem just so you can sell your product, you deserve to get smacked as hard as the law can allow (imo), how it is ironic when the company probably produced more spyware then it stopped.
Just picked it up myself, and so far I have to agree with the parent.
Its like learning through immersion. Sure there is a text book in english but you dont even have to look at it. Just start it up and go, there is no english in the app itself translating what was just said so it forces you to think in japanese so to speak. If you really get stuck you can always take a peek at the english listing to see what the hell they are talking about, but when you figure it out in your head its much more effective.. imo
and cough...I seem to have seen it available on certain ummm.. torrent sites too.
Well its not so much it wasnt good, (it was buggy as shit) but it had way different goals then all the MMORPGs you mentioned.
You level really fast in Shadowbane, PVE is really just there to hit the max level and get gold so you can advance your guilds city upgrade your gear. Its all about the city and destroying other players.
So no wonder they left, they probably all wanted the uber lewts and what not.
I came back when the game turned free after leaving it years ago when it was a buggy mess. There is still some nasty bugs but I am surprised on how much fun I was having in game after I came back. First pickup group I had off of the noob isle ended up with 3 of the 9 man trying to jack the other players.. 2 were Thieves.. not sure what we where thinking in the first place the other was an Assassin.
It was funny to see the one rogue get caught stealing, deny the whole thing and then get smashed down in one hit by another character level 75 main who is spamming "QUIT STEALING" it was comedy gold.
Shadowbane.. anything goes. I hope it sticks around.
Then you still have outside forums, voice chat, IMs that any player can use to form alliances. It will happen Urban Dead did the same zombies could only communicate with a few characters but it certainly didnt stop huge communities from getting together and making alliances.
The problem with having a human controlling a zombie character is they no longer act like zombies. You end up with some big metagaming issues, zombie/human alliances etc.
It will be interesting what these guys have up there sleeves to make sure that doesnt happen.
Oh and if they screw it up it and the game bombs then it will forever taint that genre for a MMORPG. Since I have been waiting for something like this to come around for quite some time, i'd be right pissed.
OK.. I didnt like it either.. was too much like FFXI which other than looking really nice left a really bad taste in my mouth. But lets just go over what you said.
"There was almost no interaction when fighting a monster. You simply ran your characters over to the monster and they seemed to kill it by themselves."
This is Final Fantasy we are talking about here, there really isnt much interaction with monsters aside from selecting what you want your little guy do and then watching the animation.
There is a turn based mode in the demo if I recall. I assume you played the automatic where they will run up and keep attacking unless you command them to do otherwise?
While I'll agree that Mario has been beaten to death I think its rather unfair to label the games attached to Mario as mundane, Nintendo is one of the few companies willing to innovate when it comes to new game genres and play styles. Of course if the game does really well expect a few more versions of the same.:P
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yea I plugged in my Gamecube controller to see how the control style was with it and couldnt figure it out. Big oversight not having the controls listed for a controller.. that said I whoop ass with the Wii-mote on Tenkaichi 2.
The expansion would have to be rated because it is released by the company who created the game, any mods that were created by the company would likely also have to be rated.
Player made mods and such would not be applicable as they are not created by the company. If this was the case pretty much every PC game that is mod able would be considered AO.
Of course if this is what you meant then its all good.
I would rather the industry was self regulated, instead of having big government come in, who has no effin clue about games and tell us what we can and cannot have.
The ESRB isn't holding back the AO games, its society, its the general consensus that video games are still just for kids and therefore we have to protect the children from bad content. This idea is changing, though slower than we might like. The boundaries are being pushed slowly allowing for more and more "adult/graphic" content. This isn't just meaning titties and extreme violence but, mature story lines and content that we identify with better instead of the usually spiky haired hero saves the day. Content that makes you think, challenges your ideals and makes the game more than just press button to shoot gun.
As we all have noticed our games and gaming habits are in the media spotlight, legislators and politicians as well as ambulance chasers and attention whores all have there two bits to say about how games are bad and this and that. Like Rock and Roll and Dungeons and Dragons, Video games are the scapegoat of the year and its up to us gamers to work with our system and to make people see that there fears and concerns are unfounded and a bunch of FUD.
We are parents, grandparents, business owners, teachers and responsible individuals, we play games, we love our games because we grew up with them. Its still a new medium and its slowly getting to be accepted and seen as more than just for kids.
For me, I'm for the ESRB
Ahh.. well then I am a moron.
2K games is formerly Irrational Games, and recently released Bioshock.
Take Two is a separate entity.
THE WAYS.... oh man I forgot about Wheel of Time.. Shadar Logoth was creepy.. effin Mashadar.. but when I got to where you Travel the Ways and the black wind is coming at you.. ooooh damn.. that is creepy.
First time you run into one of those... they got me good. I jumped and sprayed bullets everywhere.
I love horror movies, very few have actually scared me. FEAR creeped me out.. Call Of Cthulu Dark Side of the Earth, that creeps me out havent finished it yet. System Shock 2 gave me some good jumps (back in the day) Clive Barkers undying had me going good. The original Alone in the Dark... yea that was creepy.
Video games are full of titles that I got scared from, horror movies not so much. But damn, I love well done special effects, so I keep watching horror.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity" - Hanlon's Razor
I mean I hate them as much as the next but it seems more likely that they actually believe that DRM is an effective means of stopping pirates.
from Uzbekistan, namely about how there Potassium is better.
Just because you are given a choice in a game doesnt mean you are all of a sudden not following the creators story anymore.
We havent reached a point where games have significant AI where everytime you play through a story the ending will be different. All your endings are already written and apart of the story, you just happen to choose which one you end up seeing. The story is already made and is apart of what the storyteller wants you to see.
You are still apart of the artists vision, its just that his vision includes more than one view.
So I have to call BULLSHIT on his statement.
They dont live in a medevil fantasy world either, but they managed to make a pretty awesome fantasy world to bomb around in.
I am just willing to give them a chance, unlike NMA who have been screeching that the spirit of fallout is being raped with a rusty spiked dildo attached to a red rider bb gun.
Deathclaw!!! I was typing it out and thought it looked wrong.
Yea I loved the style the first two where built on as well. PLanning out fights and making sure you had enough AP to put a round into a guys eyeball.
I like the world that Fallout is in, and I am willing to give this a chance if it is done well.
Didnt know what to think about Bestheda getting getting the rights to Fallout, I knew it wasnt going to be isometric and that worried me, but after playing through STALKER I have to say I am looking forward to what this game might become. Stalker was able to make a great First Person Shooter that wasnt too linear and told a great story with a great atmosphere. Creepy, desolate enviroments, I can look at Fallout 3 and think of getting attacked my a Bloodsucker in Stalker and applied it to be a Bloodclaw instead.
The humor and the inside jokes need to remain tho, hopefully whoever pens the script for the game has a clue, as well shitty voice actors wont be appreciated either.. blowing your cash on getting Patrick Stewart to say like 5 lines and letting the rest of the voice acting suck ass wont do.
Blipverts arent entertaining! This is just a devious ruse to make all gamers who watch it spontainiously combust. Probably triggers when you get to the add for Zelda on the phillips CD-I.
The practices of this company to sucker in people to buy there software is highly dubious.
When you use spy-ware, malware to create a problem just so you can sell your product, you deserve to get smacked as hard as the law can allow (imo), how it is ironic when the company probably produced more spyware then it stopped.
Just picked it up myself, and so far I have to agree with the parent.
Its like learning through immersion. Sure there is a text book in english but you dont even have to look at it. Just start it up and go, there is no english in the app itself translating what was just said so it forces you to think in japanese so to speak. If you really get stuck you can always take a peek at the english listing to see what the hell they are talking about, but when you figure it out in your head its much more effective.. imo
and cough...I seem to have seen it available on certain ummm.. torrent sites too.
Well its not so much it wasnt good, (it was buggy as shit) but it had way different goals then all the MMORPGs you mentioned.
You level really fast in Shadowbane, PVE is really just there to hit the max level and get gold so you can advance your guilds city upgrade your gear. Its all about the city and destroying other players.
So no wonder they left, they probably all wanted the uber lewts and what not.
I came back when the game turned free after leaving it years ago when it was a buggy mess. There is still some nasty bugs but I am surprised on how much fun I was having in game after I came back. First pickup group I had off of the noob isle ended up with 3 of the 9 man trying to jack the other players.. 2 were Thieves.. not sure what we where thinking in the first place the other was an Assassin.
.. anything goes. I hope it sticks around.
It was funny to see the one rogue get caught stealing, deny the whole thing and then get smashed down in one hit by another character level 75 main who is spamming "QUIT STEALING" it was comedy gold.
Shadowbane
Then you still have outside forums, voice chat, IMs that any player can use to form alliances. It will happen Urban Dead did the same zombies could only communicate with a few characters but it certainly didnt stop huge communities from getting together and making alliances.
The problem with having a human controlling a zombie character is they no longer act like zombies. You end up with some big metagaming issues, zombie/human alliances etc.
It will be interesting what these guys have up there sleeves to make sure that doesnt happen.
Oh and if they screw it up it and the game bombs then it will forever taint that genre for a MMORPG. Since I have been waiting for something like this to come around for quite some time, i'd be right pissed.
mmmm zombies.. how I love to hate thee.
Ugh.. A.I.
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OK .. I didnt like it either.. was too much like FFXI which other than looking really nice left a really bad taste in my mouth. But lets just go over what you said.
"There was almost no interaction when fighting a monster. You simply ran your characters over to the monster and they seemed to kill it by themselves."
This is Final Fantasy we are talking about here, there really isnt much interaction with monsters aside from selecting what you want your little guy do and then watching the animation.
There is a turn based mode in the demo if I recall. I assume you played the automatic where they will run up and keep attacking unless you command them to do otherwise?
While I'll agree that Mario has been beaten to death I think its rather unfair to label the games attached to Mario as mundane, Nintendo is one of the few companies willing to innovate when it comes to new game genres and play styles. Of course if the game does really well expect a few more versions of the same. :P
No this is where you shoot SWG in the back of the head and put pennies in its cold dead eyes.