Ok, there's a lot of complaining going on about what really amounts to no more than two minutes of hassle when traveling internationally (discounting lines:) ).
I agree that the measures may not be the most efficient or effective, but reeeaaaallly now, is it that difficult to deal with???
Having had a sister get her head bashed in by police when stepping of a bus while visiting Chile, seeing pictures of Muslims in Sudan killing 800,000 black, and reading (today) about the insects people living on the Amazon have to deal with everyday...
...in light of all the bad things in the world, we should be happy that we are healthy (yes even you people on insulin) and relatively safe and put up with some truly minor inconveniences for people trying to keep it that way.
The results were very telling. Both candidates made about 5,000 prompts all on the order of "5 more years?:" and "The American people will pick the right man for 5 more years?:". As most of these prompts were gibberish, I responded in a random fashion.
In the end, the files of the Bush system remained on the system, but still functioned poorly and continued to periodically core dump.
What amazed me on the Kerry system was that the files actually wrote over themselves many times before all simultaneously deleting!
All in all, the process took about 7 months and I can honestly say that I hope never to have to do that again. Further more, based on how both operate when active, I would like to see a completely new category of OS if I do have to go through this again.
I think that the article has really missed the boat here. Red Hat is focusing on enterprise server software (availability, clustering, etc) and is simply the wrong distro to be recommending to a newbie if only for that reason.
Furthermore, most of the comments that suggest an alternative are too much steered towards non-corporate distributions or towards ones that don't focus well on conversion of Windows users.
Xandros is a clear choice for a variety of reasons:
1- It works. It has the #1 install on the market. It has a Windows feel to it that Win users can quickly pick up. Drivers, control panel, apps - all work.
2- It has a free version (as in beer) that people will be more likely to test-drive
3- If you like the free version for a couple bucks you can get a tailored plug-in that lets you run MS Office, iTunes, etc.
Yes, sorry, but I am talking about you and I think you are wrong.
I believe that the net result of the entire action was intended to be and will hopefully end up to be positive for the people and the region (if the renegades (who the vast majority of Iraqis do not support) do not ruin the process).
In regards to tactics (means-to-an-end-dept), I would prefer if the marines did not have to be as heavy handed but: 1) both sides have taken the gloves off 2) it may be what has become required to finish the job (it did not begin this way) 3) the alternative, which could involve exiting and leaving a vacuum behind, could result in an apocalyptic civil war with death and destruction for the Iraqi people that would make the current sniping look like a ride on the good ship lolly-pop and ruin potential generations of lives of the iraqis people.
Finally, I do believe that if you disagree with me (per your article), you can and potentially should do what you are. However, yes, I do think it is wrong.
Well I am going to start a one man boycott of Slashdot because it advertises some stupid people's actions.
He should also: -stop paying taxes -have no children (who could be drafted) -buy no magazine - watch no tv that the military supports with advertising -not buy any technology products as these will only contribute to continued r&d spending and a growing US military advantage.
The whole basis of the flawed range of problems stems from Mono's fundamental design. The goal was to design reusable components that could plug in multiple different ways in varying modules. The result is a system that is significanctly more complicated than it needs to be and the n'th level integration means that one buggy (or incorrectly spec'd) component throws the entire beast off.
However if you are looking for working solutions (especially on the desktop) your design, coding, and testing will go much more easily with QT, or GTK. Each is much more thoroughly tested and has significantly more man-years of use.
FWIW, my understanding is that the Levis with the little red "Levis" tag are the higher quality ones that you are used to. If they don't have that tag, they are like the rest and are made from reconstituted paperboard and cellophane.
I think your point might be valid if the company were a Procter & Gamble. However, in the case of IBM there are significant external benefits that the company would receive from such a move.
Initiating and successfully implementing this shift would show that a move to the Linux desktop is feasible. It would furthermore position IBM as one of the leaders in Linux on the dekstop, a potentially massive market. Furthermore, with a lot of the heavy lifting complete, IBM could market "off the shelf" solutions to its customers complete with proven technology and adoption plans.
I think that this move signals more than just a gain for Linux, it identifies the timing of Linux's ascendancy on the desktop.
I think you will find on testing Xandros, that it has several advantages over the other distributions that for the right customers make it an equivalent (and much less expensive) alternative to Windows XP Pro.
-Easy to use interfaces: familiar Control Panel and "Windows Explorer", plug and play, automatic hardware recognition - plug in a device an it runs, etc. The result of this is that it there is little to no training curve for users familiar with Windows.
-The best installer: hands down.
-Compatibility: popular applications like Microsoft Office 2003, MS Office 2000, MS Office 97, Quicken, etc. run right on Xandros without the need for a Windows license.
-Networking: seemlessly connects on to Windows networks with Native Mode (active directory) support.
Etc etc. If you are in the market for a Windows alternative or Linux Distro or just want to test drive the best desktop distro available, you NEED to try a copy. You can probably tax deduct it. Just go test drive it...
Yeah, and when Intel is trying to market 90 Terra-hertz chips for $10 in 10 years, everyone will be buying the Chinese 60 Terra-hertz ones for $0.02...
I went through the article and pulled out the various criteria that the desktop was under and list them below:
Pleasant looking at launch Documents folder in the user's home directory Opened with a view of all data repositories Theme pervasive Star Office 7
Unfortunately, the review was based largely on cosmetic appearances. Though important, they will certainly not cut it for an enterprise roll-out.
The one functionality related comment is on Star Office 7. Though the OOo team has done some great work, and I think it is a fantastic suite for home users, I do not believe that Star Office (or OOo) are ready to repalace MS Office in the work place any time soon. Why? Just a few reasons: file compatibility, macros, driver support, presentation tool, etc. etc.
Furthermore, there are several key feature sets that the article ignores that are critical for an enterprise desktop rollout: ---Networking - can this thing jump onto the company's windows network plug and play or do you have to go learn Samba3? ---Application Compatibility - the company will likely have legacy or windows apps they need to run. Does Sun desktop do anything for them? ---Mail server - I know they are using Gnome, but does Sun have any deal with Novell (current home of Ximian) to let it talk to Exchange? ---Installer - Did he try to install it? If you are going to have to put it on 2000 desktops at a company, I hope that works very very well. ---Distribution - What distribution is this residing on. This could make a huge difference in how well the thing works. Red Hat and dependancy hell? No thanks.
I think if you take a look around, Xandros probably has by far the best desktop for corporate use. It solve all of the above issues and is tremendously easy to use. You could also check out Suse, though I think it will be lacking in a few areas.
I want to see MS come down, but this brief write up doesn't have me convinced the Sun Desktop herlds in a new era...
There has been a lot of research recently showing that a restricted slashdot experience can extend the daily amount of sleep enjoyed by various creatures. Sadly, it seems that as soon as they start slashdotting again, the benefits are lost.
He probably also couldn't live on 10 dollars per day. In the US everything is much more expensive. All goods and profits are taxed at every level of the value chain and we have plenty of regulation to drive the price up artificially further.
20% of the GDP coming from the government means that the remaining 80% has a quarter of its budget going out the window. That may work (inneficiently) as long as most major industrialized countries are similarly held back, but when you compete against countries with less government overhead, you lose.
You apply accurate positioning over time and you get: VELOCITY!!!
I can just see phase II involving "speeding ticket as you go without even incurring the inconvenience of pulling you over". And no bothersome checks, they can just deduct the fine from your account. How nice!
In phase III they can watch for cars leaving bars at 3AM. Of course if those cars speed, they'll get pulled over in person. That is until the in-car breathalizers are installed to see if your are drunk and then auto-drive kicks in and drives you to jail. Of course that would be after your sentence is determined via an online forum on the way there.
Think I'll throw out my bread machine and stick with coin toll booths.
The only way this would work in the US would be if there were monstrously profitable spamming firms.
Then we would get tremendous legislation and suits whereby the states would take almost all their money (but leave enough for them to keep running) of which lawyers would net their third.
As spamming companies really don't make that much money, no one will really care to do much of anything, especially anything effective (read effort). Actually, the smoking lawsuits weren't really effective, they just turned the industry into quasi-state-owned.
I would bet that it is safe to say that this group (Slashdot) is at least slightly more aware of bad EULAs and some of the nasty aspects of technology.
At the same, I would bet that fewer than 20% of us actually go through and read the EULA (I just submitted this as a poll). Given that very very few people overall actually take the time to read these -AND- everyone knows that very few people bother, it does seem reasonable to think that there should be some standard limitations on what the program can do.
If WhenU's EULA stated that the boot sector would be wiped clean after the popup appears, would that be ok???
You are right, we are nowhere close. I think we'll always be about 25 years off until you discover some gray goo is spreading across your leg (or more likely some nano-virus just wiped out your country/race).
Once we can make nanobots, I'm sure we'll be able to copy the electicity creating process of the bacteria in a significantly more efficient and more controllable nano-design (without needing much of the unneeded material in a bacterium: a lot of wasted overhead).
In addition to type II diabetes, would also be great for obesity and those who just want to eat more. Super-size me!
Yes, Debian is a nightmare, but Xandros is FAAAARRRRrrrr easier to intall than Mandrake. You can get by with a few clicks of the mouse and you are done. In fact, Xandros has the best installer of any distro: READ THE REVIEWS!
Xandros is clearly the leader on the desktop and it does make absolutely no sense to go with the buggy difficult to use Mandrake.
Xandros makes much more sense. It is has far few bugs, supports many Winmodems, Windows Networking (including Active Directory), and for the love of G-d, let's you run Windows apps like Quicken.
This is such a NO BRAINER, I'm completely shocked.
Slashdot Mirror
I agree that the measures may not be the most efficient or effective, but reeeaaaallly now, is it that difficult to deal with???
Having had a sister get her head bashed in by police when stepping of a bus while visiting Chile, seeing pictures of Muslims in Sudan killing 800,000 black, and reading (today) about the insects people living on the Amazon have to deal with everyday...
...the productivity of every individual in the country with an internet connection should double versus yesterday
I tried some similar expressions recently:
/FS:KERRY
format c:
rm -Bush *
The results were very telling. Both candidates made about 5,000 prompts all on the order of "5 more years?:" and "The American people will pick the right man for 5 more years?:". As most of these prompts were gibberish, I responded in a random fashion.
In the end, the files of the Bush system remained on the system, but still functioned poorly and continued to periodically core dump.
What amazed me on the Kerry system was that the files actually wrote over themselves many times before all simultaneously deleting!
All in all, the process took about 7 months and I can honestly say that I hope never to have to do that again. Further more, based on how both operate when active, I would like to see a completely new category of OS if I do have to go through this again.
Odds that we will still be around when 2010 comes around 1:50
Odds that this bookie will actually be around in 2010 when it comes time to pay out 20:1
I think that the article has really missed the boat here. Red Hat is focusing on enterprise server software (availability, clustering, etc) and is simply the wrong distro to be recommending to a newbie if only for that reason.
Furthermore, most of the comments that suggest an alternative are too much steered towards non-corporate distributions or towards ones that don't focus well on conversion of Windows users.
Xandros is a clear choice for a variety of reasons:
1- It works. It has the #1 install on the market. It has a Windows feel to it that Win users can quickly pick up. Drivers, control panel, apps - all work.
2- It has a free version (as in beer) that people will be more likely to test-drive
3- If you like the free version for a couple bucks you can get a tailored plug-in that lets you run MS Office, iTunes, etc.
Yes, sorry, but I am talking about you and I think you are wrong.
I believe that the net result of the entire action was intended to be and will hopefully end up to be positive for the people and the region (if the renegades (who the vast majority of Iraqis do not support) do not ruin the process).
In regards to tactics (means-to-an-end-dept), I would prefer if the marines did not have to be as heavy handed but:
1) both sides have taken the gloves off
2) it may be what has become required to finish the job (it did not begin this way)
3) the alternative, which could involve exiting and leaving a vacuum behind, could result in an apocalyptic civil war with death and destruction for the Iraqi people that would make the current sniping look like a ride on the good ship lolly-pop and ruin potential generations of lives of the iraqis people.
Finally, I do believe that if you disagree with me (per your article), you can and potentially should do what you are. However, yes, I do think it is wrong.
Well I am going to start a one man boycott of Slashdot because it advertises some stupid people's actions.
He should also:
-stop paying taxes
-have no children (who could be drafted)
-buy no magazine - watch no tv that the military supports with advertising
-not buy any technology products as these will only contribute to continued r&d spending and a growing US military advantage.
XANDROS XANDROS XANDROS
The whole basis of the flawed range of problems stems from Mono's fundamental design. The goal was to design reusable components that could plug in multiple different ways in varying modules. The result is a system that is significanctly more complicated than it needs to be and the n'th level integration means that one buggy (or incorrectly spec'd) component throws the entire beast off.
However if you are looking for working solutions (especially on the desktop) your design, coding, and testing will go much more easily with QT, or GTK. Each is much more thoroughly tested and has significantly more man-years of use.
FWIW, my understanding is that the Levis with the little red "Levis" tag are the higher quality ones that you are used to. If they don't have that tag, they are like the rest and are made from reconstituted paperboard and cellophane.
I think your point might be valid if the company were a Procter & Gamble. However, in the case of IBM there are significant external benefits that the company would receive from such a move.
Initiating and successfully implementing this shift would show that a move to the Linux desktop is feasible. It would furthermore position IBM as one of the leaders in Linux on the dekstop, a potentially massive market. Furthermore, with a lot of the heavy lifting complete, IBM could market "off the shelf" solutions to its customers complete with proven technology and adoption plans.
I think that this move signals more than just a gain for Linux, it identifies the timing of Linux's ascendancy on the desktop.
I think you will find on testing Xandros, that it has several advantages over the other distributions that for the right customers make it an equivalent (and much less expensive) alternative to Windows XP Pro.
-Easy to use interfaces: familiar Control Panel and "Windows Explorer", plug and play, automatic hardware recognition - plug in a device an it runs, etc. The result of this is that it there is little to no training curve for users familiar with Windows.
-The best installer: hands down.
-Compatibility: popular applications like Microsoft Office 2003, MS Office 2000, MS Office 97, Quicken, etc. run right on Xandros without the need for a Windows license.
-Networking: seemlessly connects on to Windows networks with Native Mode (active directory) support.
Etc etc. If you are in the market for a Windows alternative or Linux Distro or just want to test drive the best desktop distro available, you NEED to try a copy. You can probably tax deduct it. Just go test drive it...
Yeah, and when Intel is trying to market 90 Terra-hertz chips for $10 in 10 years, everyone will be buying the Chinese 60 Terra-hertz ones for $0.02...
The editor probably picked the title.
Did you see the M$FT ad on the opposite page?
I went through the article and pulled out the various criteria that the desktop was under and list them below:
Pleasant looking at launch
Documents folder in the user's home directory
Opened with a view of all data repositories
Theme pervasive
Star Office 7
Unfortunately, the review was based largely on cosmetic appearances. Though important, they will certainly not cut it for an enterprise roll-out.
The one functionality related comment is on Star Office 7. Though the OOo team has done some great work, and I think it is a fantastic suite for home users, I do not believe that Star Office (or OOo) are ready to repalace MS Office in the work place any time soon. Why? Just a few reasons: file compatibility, macros, driver support, presentation tool, etc. etc.
Furthermore, there are several key feature sets that the article ignores that are critical for an enterprise desktop rollout:
---Networking - can this thing jump onto the company's windows network plug and play or do you have to go learn Samba3?
---Application Compatibility - the company will likely have legacy or windows apps they need to run. Does Sun desktop do anything for them?
---Mail server - I know they are using Gnome, but does Sun have any deal with Novell (current home of Ximian) to let it talk to Exchange?
---Installer - Did he try to install it? If you are going to have to put it on 2000 desktops at a company, I hope that works very very well.
---Distribution - What distribution is this residing on. This could make a huge difference in how well the thing works. Red Hat and dependancy hell? No thanks.
I think if you take a look around, Xandros probably has by far the best desktop for corporate use. It solve all of the above issues and is tremendously easy to use. You could also check out Suse, though I think it will be lacking in a few areas.
I want to see MS come down, but this brief write up doesn't have me convinced the Sun Desktop herlds in a new era...
There has been a lot of research recently showing that a restricted slashdot experience can extend the daily amount of sleep enjoyed by various creatures. Sadly, it seems that as soon as they start slashdotting again, the benefits are lost.
And importantly:
Home of Xandros:
The only true desktop alternative to Windows.
Some day you guys will catch on. Some day.
He probably also couldn't live on 10 dollars per day. In the US everything is much more expensive. All goods and profits are taxed at every level of the value chain and we have plenty of regulation to drive the price up artificially further.
20% of the GDP coming from the government means that the remaining 80% has a quarter of its budget going out the window. That may work (inneficiently) as long as most major industrialized countries are similarly held back, but when you compete against countries with less government overhead, you lose.
That's it.
You apply accurate positioning over time and you get:
VELOCITY!!!
I can just see phase II involving "speeding ticket as you go without even incurring the inconvenience of pulling you over". And no bothersome checks, they can just deduct the fine from your account. How nice!
In phase III they can watch for cars leaving bars at 3AM. Of course if those cars speed, they'll get pulled over in person. That is until the in-car breathalizers are installed to see if your are drunk and then auto-drive kicks in and drives you to jail. Of course that would be after your sentence is determined via an online forum on the way there.
Think I'll throw out my bread machine and stick with coin toll booths.
The only way this would work in the US would be if there were monstrously profitable spamming firms.
Then we would get tremendous legislation and suits whereby the states would take almost all their money (but leave enough for them to keep running) of which lawyers would net their third.
As spamming companies really don't make that much money, no one will really care to do much of anything, especially anything effective (read effort). Actually, the smoking lawsuits weren't really effective, they just turned the industry into quasi-state-owned.
Hmmm. Here's to re-election soundbites biting.
I would bet that it is safe to say that this group (Slashdot) is at least slightly more aware of bad EULAs and some of the nasty aspects of technology.
At the same, I would bet that fewer than 20% of us actually go through and read the EULA (I just submitted this as a poll). Given that very very few people overall actually take the time to read these -AND- everyone knows that very few people bother, it does seem reasonable to think that there should be some standard limitations on what the program can do.
If WhenU's EULA stated that the boot sector would be wiped clean after the popup appears, would that be ok???
You are right, we are nowhere close. I think we'll always be about 25 years off until you discover some gray goo is spreading across your leg (or more likely some nano-virus just wiped out your country/race).
Once we can make nanobots, I'm sure we'll be able to copy the electicity creating process of the bacteria in a significantly more efficient and more controllable nano-design (without needing much of the unneeded material in a bacterium: a lot of wasted overhead).
In addition to type II diabetes, would also be great for obesity and those who just want to eat more. Super-size me!
Xandros normally charges, but I'm sure they would work out a deal with HP to get things started. Would likely due for free for the publicitity etc...
Yes, Debian is a nightmare, but Xandros is FAAAARRRRrrrr easier to intall than Mandrake. You can get by with a few clicks of the mouse and you are done. In fact, Xandros has the best installer of any distro: READ THE REVIEWS!
Xandros is clearly the leader on the desktop and it does make absolutely no sense to go with the buggy difficult to use Mandrake.
Xandros makes much more sense. It is has far few bugs, supports many Winmodems, Windows Networking (including Active Directory), and for the love of G-d, let's you run Windows apps like Quicken.
This is such a NO BRAINER, I'm completely shocked.