Parent is troll. "The phone is programmed to check mail and deliver revenue to your service provider even when it is "off"" was proven to be utter bollocks.
I've skimmed the summary, article and comments, and sadly it seems not so many people are clued in on how cross sells actually work. There's no 'inside session passing' or rubbish. Simply, a cross-sell is a product offered by a company that uses the same billing company as the site.
For example, CCBill - huge CC processing company.
You sign up for a product or a site, X. That webmaster has made a deal w/ another webmaster that has a product / site, Y, processing with CCBill. When you sign up, there's a box for product Y. If Y is selected, CCBill charges you for X, and Y. No credit card data is swapped stolen shared or anything of that nature.
Oh absolutely. That's a gross generalisation. I'm sorry, but from your post, the only conclusion I can reach is that you associate with vapid, sub-intelligent people. If you're in the mood to make gross generalizations, here's one for you: perhaps you assume that everyone is a loser, because all your friends are losers [but I do like your lofty attitude that raises you above that]
Incidentally, I'm under 25, and would prefer to remove my testicles through my nose than have a facebook / myspace addition / bullshit thing.
For a product they bought in Thailand, when it was known it was region locked? What, they're going to lodge a complaint stipulating they were tightasses who got jigged at their own game?
Look, I can completely agree with the notion that taking people's money and then fucking them is not a good thing, but I'm not sure it's completely applicable in this situation.
Thai versions have stamped on the box, they're for Thailand only. The players that bought the Thai verions for $14AU as opposed to $55 - $65AU did so to feel clever, and try to profiteer off Valve. They knowing, and quite happily, and presumably grinning and giving the forks to Valve, bought a region locked version.
Valve, quite in its rights, did what it said it would do: version lock the software.
Now, let's look at the situation: #1 - The RETAILER should not have sold the software to people outside Thailand, but they were happy to make money. #2 - The USER should not have bought the software, in the knowledge that it was locked or may have been locked, but they were happy to take the chance #3 - Valve did what it said it was going to do, all along.
I can only see that the parties in #1 and #2 should front up and take responsibility.
You bought the Thai version to try to fuck valve? Well guess what, they fucked you, and they TOLD you there were gonna do it. Pissed? Blame the reseller, or blame yourself.
Let's change the sitatuion: You can buy cigarettes in Thailand for a fraction of the cost you can buy them for in the US. This is intentional by the manufacturer, and the reseller. You can buy them there, and smoke them there, no problems. You buy them online and try to import them, to give a big fuck you to the company in the US? 9 times out of 10, you lose them in customs, no money given back. Is it customs fault? Absolutely not. Is it the fault of the reseller for selling them to you outside of their country? Perhaps, but that's their perogative. You chose to buy there with the intention of fucking the company, and you lost.
Quite honestly nothing is really lost by not swearing, however harmless it might be. I actually find it unoriginal. Congratulations. Feel free to embrace your opinion while others brace theirs.
Save that sort of crap for the frat house, or whatever. Security, at the airport, is deadly serious. ..which is the biggest joke. The "airport thing" has been done. They were targetted because there was no security. If there's a next time, it'll be something else. Security in all major cities is a complete farce, with ready access to anyone to metro tunnels, trunk lines, rooftops, whatever.
These drives are the devil. I bought one. It exploded spectaculally. I rang 'Maxtor' [ie Seagate] - they didn't want to have anything to do with it. 3k in data recovery later. This seems to be a common scenario, I know of two others failing on friends - just google.
This may not be the case for all of their drives - but 'Buyer Beware'
Not sure of the circumstances here - and this guy does sound like a bit of an idiot [Hello police? You're here to help? I'll take care of that with my steadfast refusal to be nice!]
But, having said that, I'll draw a probably useless parallel: In australia, you do not have to show contents of a bag upon leave a shop, even if it is 'store policy' to do so. 'Store Policy' is thankfully overridden by law [including draconian recipt / return policies also]
Normally, I'll show the contents of a bag, but on occassions when I have been busy, or I've got all my camera equipment tucked away, I'll politely decline. Note, the shop assistant is doing their job, the least you can do is be polite when you decline - normally, no problem.
However, I've had situations where the assistant was scandalised that I wouldn't show her my bag, and called the manager. I explained calmly but clearly I was under no legal obligation to show. This adolescent hero proceeded to block to exit, until I said : If he'd like to call the police, he most certainly could, and I'd comply, but for now, no, get out of my way.
Honestly: These are things shops etc NEED to be educated on - it will only reflect poorly on them.
[Ben174] : If they only realized 90% of the overtime they pay me is only cause i like staying here playing with Kazaa when the bandwidth picks up after hours. [ChrisLMB] : If any of my employees did that they'd be fired instantly. [Ben174] : Where u work? [ChrisLMB] : I'm the CTO at LowerMyBills.com *** Ben174 (BenWright@TeraPro33-41.LowerMyBills.com) Quit (Leaving)
Arm every person in china with chopsticks, and you've got an army that will defeat any other by sheer numbers. c'mon, you've seen zombie movies, you know the drill!
I love my collection of vinyl. I'm a 20-something, and have a collection of 78s and a gramophone, and 33s and a lovely turntable. Turntable goes through a delicious analogue amp, and the sound that a record produces in comparison to the 'same' CD is incomparable - warm, full, and delicious.
It's a pity that it's going the way it is, but the alternative is: I'm and elitist in the regard that I'm happy the 'best' is kept to a select few:)
Also havent seen any mass-killings since the advent of the law that outlawed the semi-automatics. If your reply is going to be as witty and pointless as your OP, please don't bother replying.
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Parent is troll.
"The phone is programmed to check mail and deliver revenue to your service provider even when it is "off"" was proven to be utter bollocks.
I've skimmed the summary, article and comments, and sadly it seems not so many people are clued in on how cross sells actually work.
There's no 'inside session passing' or rubbish. Simply, a cross-sell is a product offered by a company that uses the same billing company as the site.
For example, CCBill - huge CC processing company.
You sign up for a product or a site, X. That webmaster has made a deal w/ another webmaster that has a product / site, Y, processing with CCBill.
When you sign up, there's a box for product Y. If Y is selected, CCBill charges you for X, and Y.
No credit card data is swapped stolen shared or anything of that nature.
It's really that simple.
Who is that with? In AU I could be on 'a plan' where I paid for as much as I used, or if I didn't use it, I'd pay $0.
Very handy.
Here in France the best deal I can find is with SFR, on prepaid [eeerk] for 25E credit that lasts for 2 months.
Oh absolutely.
That's a gross generalisation. I'm sorry, but from your post, the only conclusion I can reach is that you associate with vapid, sub-intelligent people.
If you're in the mood to make gross generalizations, here's one for you: perhaps you assume that everyone is a loser, because all your friends are losers [but I do like your lofty attitude that raises you above that]
Incidentally, I'm under 25, and would prefer to remove my testicles through my nose than have a facebook / myspace addition / bullshit thing.
Caveat Emptor, I guess.
For a product they bought in Thailand, when it was known it was region locked?
What, they're going to lodge a complaint stipulating they were tightasses who got jigged at their own game?
Stop the fingerpointing, take the blame.
OP is simply untrue. Steam isn't locked to hardware.
Look, I can completely agree with the notion that taking people's money and then fucking them is not a good thing, but I'm not sure it's completely applicable in this situation.
Thai versions have stamped on the box, they're for Thailand only. The players that bought the Thai verions for $14AU as opposed to $55 - $65AU did so to feel clever, and try to profiteer off Valve. They knowing, and quite happily, and presumably grinning and giving the forks to Valve, bought a region locked version.
Valve, quite in its rights, did what it said it would do: version lock the software.
Now, let's look at the situation:
#1 - The RETAILER should not have sold the software to people outside Thailand, but they were happy to make money.
#2 - The USER should not have bought the software, in the knowledge that it was locked or may have been locked, but they were happy to take the chance
#3 - Valve did what it said it was going to do, all along.
I can only see that the parties in #1 and #2 should front up and take responsibility.
You bought the Thai version to try to fuck valve? Well guess what, they fucked you, and they TOLD you there were gonna do it.
Pissed? Blame the reseller, or blame yourself.
Let's change the sitatuion:
You can buy cigarettes in Thailand for a fraction of the cost you can buy them for in the US. This is intentional by the manufacturer, and the reseller.
You can buy them there, and smoke them there, no problems.
You buy them online and try to import them, to give a big fuck you to the company in the US? 9 times out of 10, you lose them in customs, no money given back.
Is it customs fault? Absolutely not. Is it the fault of the reseller for selling them to you outside of their country? Perhaps, but that's their perogative.
You chose to buy there with the intention of fucking the company, and you lost.
Take some fucking responsibility.
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This was modded insightful?
It has Nothing to do with the article. Jesus christ.
anyone got a copy of the DB / know where we can get one?
I'm willing to host it on some solid hosting until the meantime....
This mentality works quite happily for mobile / cell phones though...
WTF is the obsession with planes and airports? That's old hat, it won't happen again.
Security in all major cities is a complete farce, with ready access to anyone to metro tunnels, trunk lines, rooftops, whatever.
These drives are the devil.
I bought one. It exploded spectaculally. I rang 'Maxtor' [ie Seagate] - they didn't want to have anything to do with it.
3k in data recovery later. This seems to be a common scenario, I know of two others failing on friends - just google.
This may not be the case for all of their drives - but 'Buyer Beware'
Not sure of the circumstances here - and this guy does sound like a bit of an idiot [Hello police? You're here to help? I'll take care of that with my steadfast refusal to be nice!]
But, having said that, I'll draw a probably useless parallel:
In australia, you do not have to show contents of a bag upon leave a shop, even if it is 'store policy' to do so. 'Store Policy' is thankfully overridden by law [including draconian recipt / return policies also]
Normally, I'll show the contents of a bag, but on occassions when I have been busy, or I've got all my camera equipment tucked away, I'll politely decline.
Note, the shop assistant is doing their job, the least you can do is be polite when you decline - normally, no problem.
However, I've had situations where the assistant was scandalised that I wouldn't show her my bag, and called the manager. I explained calmly but clearly I was under no legal obligation to show. This adolescent hero proceeded to block to exit, until I said : If he'd like to call the police, he most certainly could, and I'd comply, but for now, no, get out of my way.
Honestly: These are things shops etc NEED to be educated on - it will only reflect poorly on them.
[Ben174] : If they only realized 90% of the overtime they pay me is only cause i like staying here playing with Kazaa when the bandwidth picks up after hours.
[ChrisLMB] : If any of my employees did that they'd be fired instantly.
[Ben174] : Where u work?
[ChrisLMB] : I'm the CTO at LowerMyBills.com
*** Ben174 (BenWright@TeraPro33-41.LowerMyBills.com) Quit (Leaving)
Arm every person in china with chopsticks, and you've got an army that will defeat any other by sheer numbers.
c'mon, you've seen zombie movies, you know the drill!
I love my collection of vinyl. I'm a 20-something, and have a collection of 78s and a gramophone, and 33s and a lovely turntable.
:)
Turntable goes through a delicious analogue amp, and the sound that a record produces in comparison to the 'same' CD is incomparable - warm, full, and delicious.
It's a pity that it's going the way it is, but the alternative is: I'm and elitist in the regard that I'm happy the 'best' is kept to a select few
Interestingly, a lot of the equipment still exists, but is long forgotten:
j pgj pg
http://www.ninjito.com/dump/2007-01-25/qx-door-3.
http://www.ninjito.com/dump/2007-01-25/qx-door-2.
You can google the ID on the side to see the role they played in Saturn V history...
Mine loves to play:
- When Is The Most Irritating Time To Crash
It also enjoys
- Fatal Exception Blocking The Save Function
Also havent seen any mass-killings since the advent of the law that outlawed the semi-automatics.
If your reply is going to be as witty and pointless as your OP, please don't bother replying.
You did her a favour. The manager was obviously making the work place a shit place to be.
It's Quick And Nasty Typical Australian Service ;)
I agree with you in total, except on three key beverages:
Bubbleman, Bubbleman II and Bubbleman SPACE Flavour.
Sigh, what a country. I miss Japan.