What happens when you have a closed source software deadline that HAS to be met?
You get Windows 95.
Not a great example to choose, as for a couple of years beforehand Microsoft were touting how great their update to Windows, formerly codenamed 'Chicago' and now called 'Windows 94', was going to be.:)
Aimed at releasing late 1994, actually launched in July 1995.
Ben Collins works on Subversion, and packages glibc for Debian, and does work on the Linux kernel. And he didn't send a Netwinder to Larry McVoy.
He was using BitKeeper to work on the Linux kernel, as requested by Linus; now it is impossible for him to do so because of his work on the Subversion project. A number of people feel that the development of an important Free Software project should not depend on a non-Free version management system, especially one where the rules as to who is allowed to use it keep on changing.
I wonder if it's the work on Subversion or the missing Netwinder that caused all this...
Or he could just stfu and pay for it. It's not like he has any legitimate reason to expect free software from a company that's trying to stay in business.
... and the quality (or at least the quantity:) of Linux kernel developers drops, as the process of acquiring the software required to develop it becomes more onerous and legally difficult. Not a good move from a technical standpoint.
Still, that's a decision for Linus et. al. to make, and it looks like they'll stick with it until the situation becomes unbearable for a majority of major developers -- given the way BitMover keep changing their licenses, it wouldn't surprise me to see this happen. Besides, the license language is overly broad. All major Linux distros contain CVS (I imagine:), so no-one who works for these organisations can use BitKeeper, and these people will find it more difficult to keep up with kernel development.
You constructed a strawman argument (Microsoft "abusing" the GPL, which wouldn't be a problem as they are allowed to do what you describe) and you asserted that other developers were copying code/features from BitKeeper, something that has yet to be proven. I'm not surprised you were modded down.
I was much the same -- although I think I remember reading and enjoying/. while the highest UIDs were around 11,000... I always find user registration schemes intrusive, so I put it off for a while:)
Oh well, it still makes me one of the first 5% of registered users, I guess, seeing comments from users > 600,000.
I have been using computers for over 20 years. I have never, ever, ever 'accidently' deleted an important file.
Unfortunately, not everyone shares your fine mental and physical coordination. Who should we be designing for -- the exceptional people such as yourself, or the lumpenuser who, on making a mistake, would like some way to easily recover it? How many more are there of them than there are of fine specimens such as yourself? Couldn't you just grit your teeth while you disable this unnecessary feature, secure in the knowledge that your momentary sacrifice has enlightened the lives of millions less fortunate than yourself?
I think that's because he feels that Lucas' attitudes lend themselves a little to easily to a fascist conclusion -- it's telling that one of those Holocaust quotes is from Orwell, the archetypal fighter against fascism.
Seriously, they'll release when the new features and changes they've made are stable and tested enough... and the release of a v2.6 is important, as it means it will be more widely used, more bugs found, etc. Most distrobution makers wouldn't ship a newly 'stabilised' kernel, e.g. 2.6.0, but would wait until it had matured a little...
If it lowers the cost it will just raise corporate profit.
And encourage them to make more sequels, etc. This may be a good thing if you're a fan... which I'm not, although I did like the earlier Maxis games (Sim City et. al.)
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What happens when you have a closed source software deadline that HAS to be met?
:)
You get Windows 95.
Not a great example to choose, as for a couple of years beforehand Microsoft were touting how great their update to Windows, formerly codenamed 'Chicago' and now called 'Windows 94', was going to be.
Aimed at releasing late 1994, actually launched in July 1995.
And Windows XP 2003 will not run on anything else.
:)
That's probably what they're planning, but given their previous record it'll take until XBox 3 & WinXP 2006 for it to actually work properly.
It's going to happen at some point; better that we be prepared for it, rather than adopting the ostrich defense.
I blame the wheel, myself; oh, and fire as well. It's a slippery slope from that sort of technology to ICBMs, etc.
... and browse at -1 just in case :) Ah well, luck of the draw...
My first thought was, "I wonder if Stallman named it".
:)
No, then it would have been "GNU/Quaoar".
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Ben Collins works on Subversion, and packages glibc for Debian, and does work on the Linux kernel. And he didn't send a Netwinder to Larry McVoy.
He was using BitKeeper to work on the Linux kernel, as requested by Linus; now it is impossible for him to do so because of his work on the Subversion project. A number of people feel that the development of an important Free Software project should not depend on a non-Free version management system, especially one where the rules as to who is allowed to use it keep on changing.
I wonder if it's the work on Subversion or the missing Netwinder that caused all this...
Or he could just stfu and pay for it. It's not like he has any legitimate reason to expect free software from a company that's trying to stay in business.
... and the quality (or at least the quantity :) of Linux kernel developers drops, as the process of acquiring the software required to develop it becomes more onerous and legally difficult. Not a good move from a technical standpoint.
:), so no-one who works for these organisations can use BitKeeper, and these people will find it more difficult to keep up with kernel development.
Still, that's a decision for Linus et. al. to make, and it looks like they'll stick with it until the situation becomes unbearable for a majority of major developers -- given the way BitMover keep changing their licenses, it wouldn't surprise me to see this happen. Besides, the license language is overly broad. All major Linux distros contain CVS (I imagine
You constructed a strawman argument (Microsoft "abusing" the GPL, which wouldn't be a problem as they are allowed to do what you describe) and you asserted that other developers were copying code/features from BitKeeper, something that has yet to be proven. I'm not surprised you were modded down.
Windows!
:)
Does anyone else think "StrokeIt" is a really bad name for a product?
:)
I guess that depends on which market you are trying to reach.
I was much the same -- although I think I remember reading and enjoying /. while the highest UIDs were around 11,000... I always find user registration schemes intrusive, so I put it off for a while :)
Oh well, it still makes me one of the first 5% of registered users, I guess, seeing comments from users > 600,000.
And DON'T mention Stanley Kubrick. Everyone does that!
Huh?
I have been using computers for over 20 years. I have never, ever, ever 'accidently' deleted an important file.
Unfortunately, not everyone shares your fine mental and physical coordination. Who should we be designing for -- the exceptional people such as yourself, or the lumpenuser who, on making a mistake, would like some way to easily recover it? How many more are there of them than there are of fine specimens such as yourself? Couldn't you just grit your teeth while you disable this unnecessary feature, secure in the knowledge that your momentary sacrifice has enlightened the lives of millions less fortunate than yourself?
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- Imagine a beowulf cluster of these (gets modded minus 1 Million, Redundant)
the "mozilla native" widgets, which are unthemeable by any means
the page author can set the the look of these with CSS, or the browser (& the person viewing them) can do it with user stylesheets, AFAIK.
Re-issued later as "Space Family Stone" to avoid confusion, as far as I could tell. :)
Rolling Stone is a music magazine.
The Rolling Stones are a band.
"Like A Rolling Stone" is a Bob Dylan song.
And because the business is built so closely around him and his close associates, his position is rather secure.
All those paparazzi must play hell with any exit strategy, though... unless he takes the Brian Jones route?
Does it come with a flying pig?
And a pony. I'd really like a pony.
I think that's because he feels that Lucas' attitudes lend themselves a little to easily to a fascist conclusion -- it's telling that one of those Holocaust quotes is from Orwell, the archetypal fighter against fascism.
This post is released under the GPL. Is yours?
I'd like to see how you managed that, given that you copied and pasted it from somewhere else, uncredited.
Somewhat ironic in a discussion about IP...
Stolen (#22, modified slightly to fit the sig character limit) from the Evil Overlord list, a beautiful piece of net .history...
:)
http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html
(God, that makes me feel old... I remember reading that when it was new
what are the criteria?
:)
"When it's ready."
Seriously, they'll release when the new features and changes they've made are stable and tested enough... and the release of a v2.6 is important, as it means it will be more widely used, more bugs found, etc. Most distrobution makers wouldn't ship a newly 'stabilised' kernel, e.g. 2.6.0, but would wait until it had matured a little...
# man tune2fs
(you can turn fscks off, change the number of mounts or make it time-dependent, etc.)
If it lowers the cost it will just raise corporate profit.
And encourage them to make more sequels, etc. This may be a good thing if you're a fan... which I'm not, although I did like the earlier Maxis games (Sim City et. al.)