Those de-classified reports are obviously fake. The real UFO documents will never be de-classified due humanity's inability to deal with Extra-Terrestrial life on this planet.
Well, all personal conspiracy theories aside, why would this stop anyone from making up conspiracy theories? No one in their right mind would believe that the government would declassify documents that they feel could be damaging to themselves or the US public. Are they gonna declassify that they shot JFK (if they did) even 100 years from now? I think not.
Only if it's illegal to say that drinking a certain type of beer is going to get you more women.
Isn't it illegal for them to say that, though? Can't I sue for false advertising if some beer company explicitly states that I will get more women if I drink their beer and I don't? They can imply it, or they can put disclaimers on it, but just flat out lying is illegal isn't it? If that's the case, then these software companies are breaking the law.
Have you ever seen a modern day cheap m/hotel room? It's like stepping into a 70s time warp. By the time we have "ultra-thin flexible LCD sheets" that are cheap enough for middle-income home consumption, crappy hotel rooms will start getting cheap-ass 42 inch plasma tvs from some pawn shop/antique garage sale. So while all this technology is currently available at a really high price, in 30 years or so, you will probably walk into this "hotel of the future." It's all based on your time-line of "the future" anyway... maybe in 100 or so years, the hotel of the future will just be a jack you plug into your skull to regenerate and get digital massages.
"Look at what these 12 year olds did... hollywood you have no excuse".
and after your post, in some random executives meeting room in Hollywood:
Lead executive: You hear that? We have no excuse! What am I paying you bastards for! Go out and find some famous property to remake shot for shot on a low budget! And get a couple kids to do it!
Lesser executive: Sir, market research shows that low budget movies don't sell as high as high budget movies.
Lead: You're right... give the budget a few million bucks... oh, and get Gus Van Sant to direct.
ingenuity schmingenuity! It takes ingenuity to figure out how to do computer animation as well, and most of the time it just looks better than stupid optical tricks. The special effects "industry" is around 35 - 40 years old now... there is no ingenuity, only shortcuts and gimmicks that have been used for years... the real progress is coming in the form of technical advancements with computer effects.
But as much as you like to think that all special fx companies do these days is plug film into a computer and add 3d things, you're wrong. I read that in Star Wars: Ep 2, the way they created the waterfalls in the background was by filming salt coming out of a container... not by created a water simulator and doing it all in 3d... that's ingenuity for you. It's not about plugging it all in the computer and fixing it, it's about making the effect for as cheap as possible and salt is cheaper than cg water simulators, but cg effects are usually cheaper than the other alternatives.
I agree with you... The Matrix is just a plot device, but you can take any movie and use it as a basis for explaining real philosophical points.
I read the Philosophy of Star Trek awhile back and the author didn't make any claims that the writers intended to put deep meaning into the episodes but he did use Kirk's actions in some episode, for example, as a good starting point to delve into the basics of, say, existentialism.
I doubt that the Wachowski's didn't realize that they were throwing in philosophy into the script. I read an article where Hugo Weaving had to ask the brothers what German Philosophers he had to read to understand certain segments of the script , but those slight allusions to real philosophical constructs is a good starting point for professors to base their lessons on.
What better way to get kids into religion than saying "You see, Jesus was the One, much like Neo in the Matrix?"
Here's some more SPOILERS and more speculation based on the parent post. I speculate that there isn't a second layer of the Matrix, but that a major theme of the movie was that Machines and Humans have to coexist somehow... There were references in the movie about Agent Smith feeling Neo and at the end, Neo is shown to have some control over the machines in the "real" world. Well, given the name "Neo" meaning "new" and the themes of the machine/man thing, I think Neo is the prototype or link for the coexistance of man and machine. There were lots of references to Neo being still "only human" and I think Revolutions will have Neo embracing his machine half.
the major reason Final Fantasy failed was that the plot was boring and the script was lame. I've spoken to computer artists as well as the "common" man and both groups had mostly positive things to say about the special effects in Final Fantasy. You can say what you want but they were incredible and unparalleled. Sure, some of the humans were pretty stiff and "zombie-like" but it didn't matter.
The average person doesn't really care about good animation. That's why stuff like the Wild Thornberry Movie and Jimmy Neutron do pretty well in the box office.
After seeing a few of the clips from this new movie on the site, the story and characters from what I've seen just don't look interesting. If it fails in the US box office, then it will probably be exactly why Final Fantasy did.
so what is art? There have been different styles of art since the beginning of man and about 200 or so years ago people started questioning what art is. Picasso came out there with cubism and all this other weird shit and people said that wasn't art. Then Duchamp came around and started digging up urinals and calling them art and people didn't consider that art. So it all depends on your definition. I for one go to an art school and I've learned to appreciate even the upside down urinal aspect of art because - although pretty old and mundane now, it did change the art world. Yeah, there are hacks out there who get doped up and pretend to be artists by ripping off 40 year old ideas but hey, there are shitty real artists too.
I usually get your argument from people who consider the only form of art as 200 year old paintings by great masters that you pay to see at your local museum. Well, art is all around you. Art is the painting in the museum, or the cover of your tv guide, or the design of your cell phone, and even some mural that some high school kid spray painted on the side of his house, and while you hate this "random" crap that is being done today, it will pave the way for tomorrows consumer artwork, just like a guy throwing paint onto a canvas paved the way for a lot of art that you actually pay for in the form of a magazine subscription.
The biggest problem with the net are elitist jerkwads who get modded up on slashdot. I was on irc back in around '94 when the internet was just gaining popularity but the rooms were all full of elitist assholes who never wanted to answer anyones questions or help anyone out because they were so much cooler than everyone else. It was annoying then and it's equally as annoying now. You're not better than anyone else just because you spend too much time on the computer... in most circles, you're probably worse. Also, the internet isn't yours so get over it.
I hate April 1st on Slashdot... Just do us all a favor and repost yesterdays stories... it will probably be more informative as well as more humorous than whatever is bound to be posted today.
Every single story about some dude porting Linux to his remote control, or jamming an atx motherboard into a PSOne case, or creating a working rocket out of a LEGO Mindstorm set gets all these asshole responses questioning why someone would do something like that, and it's getting pretty annoying. Those people mentioned above do it because they can... because no one has ever done it before and they want to see if it can be done.
You say this shouldn't have left some geek's drawing board but I doubt the drawing board for this project was even a glint in the geek's eye when this project was greenlighted by rich investors wanting to cash in on some new never before attempted show. Why was this done? Because it has a chance to bring in money... Why should it be done? Because it hasn't been done before, it gives jobs to many CG people (which is good since I myself am one), and it just shows a general milestone of how CG is progressing from flat shaded models in Tron, to photorealism for short periods of time in Jurassic Park, to Photorealism in a 2 hour movie like Final Fantasy to photorealism in 30 min segments once a week... It's yet another milestone that if not done today, would be done tomorrow by some other company, but should never be questioned on why.
yeah, he's famous... but you could be too if you went out and murdered either someone famous or a bunch of regular joes. Mitnick went to jail... I would rather live my whole life as one of slashdots "teaming masses" if I didn't have to spend 5 years in prison. That's a conscious choice I make practically every day. I don't envy Mitnick for his fame.
soon we'll reach the "dupe story event horizon" where duplicate stories will be posted at EXACTLY THE SAME TIME. Past that point, there will only be one story posted over and over again. It will probably be a dupe.
Slashdot Mirror
I was waiting for a star trek reference to say
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KHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNN!
IANADr but I'd venture to say that getting medical advice from Slashdot would be about as wise as asking SCO for Legal advice.
It's funny cause it's contemporary!
Those de-classified reports are obviously fake. The real UFO documents will never be de-classified due humanity's inability to deal with Extra-Terrestrial life on this planet.
Well, all personal conspiracy theories aside, why would this stop anyone from making up conspiracy theories? No one in their right mind would believe that the government would declassify documents that they feel could be damaging to themselves or the US public. Are they gonna declassify that they shot JFK (if they did) even 100 years from now? I think not.
well, I'm sure it re-commented.
but as all kinds of wireless tech gets built into PDAs, laptops and watches how will they know?
they'll know when you start talking into your wrist.
Only if it's illegal to say that drinking a certain type of beer is going to get you more women.
Isn't it illegal for them to say that, though? Can't I sue for false advertising if some beer company explicitly states that I will get more women if I drink their beer and I don't? They can imply it, or they can put disclaimers on it, but just flat out lying is illegal isn't it? If that's the case, then these software companies are breaking the law.
Have you ever seen a modern day cheap m/hotel room? It's like stepping into a 70s time warp. By the time we have "ultra-thin flexible LCD sheets" that are cheap enough for middle-income home consumption, crappy hotel rooms will start getting cheap-ass 42 inch plasma tvs from some pawn shop/antique garage sale. So while all this technology is currently available at a really high price, in 30 years or so, you will probably walk into this "hotel of the future." It's all based on your time-line of "the future" anyway... maybe in 100 or so years, the hotel of the future will just be a jack you plug into your skull to regenerate and get digital massages.
"Look at what these 12 year olds did... hollywood you have no excuse".
and after your post, in some random executives meeting room in Hollywood:
Lead executive: You hear that? We have no excuse! What am I paying you bastards for! Go out and find some famous property to remake shot for shot on a low budget! And get a couple kids to do it!
Lesser executive: Sir, market research shows that low budget movies don't sell as high as high budget movies.
Lead: You're right... give the budget a few million bucks... oh, and get Gus Van Sant to direct.
ingenuity schmingenuity! It takes ingenuity to figure out how to do computer animation as well, and most of the time it just looks better than stupid optical tricks. The special effects "industry" is around 35 - 40 years old now... there is no ingenuity, only shortcuts and gimmicks that have been used for years... the real progress is coming in the form of technical advancements with computer effects.
But as much as you like to think that all special fx companies do these days is plug film into a computer and add 3d things, you're wrong. I read that in Star Wars: Ep 2, the way they created the waterfalls in the background was by filming salt coming out of a container... not by created a water simulator and doing it all in 3d... that's ingenuity for you. It's not about plugging it all in the computer and fixing it, it's about making the effect for as cheap as possible and salt is cheaper than cg water simulators, but cg effects are usually cheaper than the other alternatives.
I agree with you... The Matrix is just a plot device, but you can take any movie and use it as a basis for explaining real philosophical points.
I read the Philosophy of Star Trek awhile back and the author didn't make any claims that the writers intended to put deep meaning into the episodes but he did use Kirk's actions in some episode, for example, as a good starting point to delve into the basics of, say, existentialism.
I doubt that the Wachowski's didn't realize that they were throwing in philosophy into the script. I read an article where Hugo Weaving had to ask the brothers what German Philosophers he had to read to understand certain segments of the script , but those slight allusions to real philosophical constructs is a good starting point for professors to base their lessons on.
What better way to get kids into religion than saying "You see, Jesus was the One, much like Neo in the Matrix?"
My girlfriend doesn't seem to mind.
Here's some more SPOILERS and more speculation based on the parent post. I speculate that there isn't a second layer of the Matrix, but that a major theme of the movie was that Machines and Humans have to coexist somehow... There were references in the movie about Agent Smith feeling Neo and at the end, Neo is shown to have some control over the machines in the "real" world. Well, given the name "Neo" meaning "new" and the themes of the machine/man thing, I think Neo is the prototype or link for the coexistance of man and machine. There were lots of references to Neo being still "only human" and I think Revolutions will have Neo embracing his machine half.
the major reason Final Fantasy failed was that the plot was boring and the script was lame. I've spoken to computer artists as well as the "common" man and both groups had mostly positive things to say about the special effects in Final Fantasy. You can say what you want but they were incredible and unparalleled. Sure, some of the humans were pretty stiff and "zombie-like" but it didn't matter.
The average person doesn't really care about good animation. That's why stuff like the Wild Thornberry Movie and Jimmy Neutron do pretty well in the box office.
After seeing a few of the clips from this new movie on the site, the story and characters from what I've seen just don't look interesting. If it fails in the US box office, then it will probably be exactly why Final Fantasy did.
And to the original poster,
BAM!
Sometimes, ads are not ads, they are the results themselves.
says the oracle in the next Matrix movie.
so what is art? There have been different styles of art since the beginning of man and about 200 or so years ago people started questioning what art is. Picasso came out there with cubism and all this other weird shit and people said that wasn't art. Then Duchamp came around and started digging up urinals and calling them art and people didn't consider that art. So it all depends on your definition. I for one go to an art school and I've learned to appreciate even the upside down urinal aspect of art because - although pretty old and mundane now, it did change the art world. Yeah, there are hacks out there who get doped up and pretend to be artists by ripping off 40 year old ideas but hey, there are shitty real artists too.
I usually get your argument from people who consider the only form of art as 200 year old paintings by great masters that you pay to see at your local museum. Well, art is all around you. Art is the painting in the museum, or the cover of your tv guide, or the design of your cell phone, and even some mural that some high school kid spray painted on the side of his house, and while you hate this "random" crap that is being done today, it will pave the way for tomorrows consumer artwork, just like a guy throwing paint onto a canvas paved the way for a lot of art that you actually pay for in the form of a magazine subscription.
The biggest problem with the net are elitist jerkwads who get modded up on slashdot. I was on irc back in around '94 when the internet was just gaining popularity but the rooms were all full of elitist assholes who never wanted to answer anyones questions or help anyone out because they were so much cooler than everyone else. It was annoying then and it's equally as annoying now. You're not better than anyone else just because you spend too much time on the computer... in most circles, you're probably worse. Also, the internet isn't yours so get over it.
A chess master once told me: "Never neglect the obvious. Usually it's obvious because it's right."
Yeah, but the Zapp Brannigan once said "In the game of chess, you should never let your opponent see your pieces!"
I hate April 1st on Slashdot... Just do us all a favor and repost yesterdays stories... it will probably be more informative as well as more humorous than whatever is bound to be posted today.
Every single story about some dude porting Linux to his remote control, or jamming an atx motherboard into a PSOne case, or creating a working rocket out of a LEGO Mindstorm set gets all these asshole responses questioning why someone would do something like that, and it's getting pretty annoying. Those people mentioned above do it because they can... because no one has ever done it before and they want to see if it can be done.
You say this shouldn't have left some geek's drawing board but I doubt the drawing board for this project was even a glint in the geek's eye when this project was greenlighted by rich investors wanting to cash in on some new never before attempted show. Why was this done? Because it has a chance to bring in money... Why should it be done? Because it hasn't been done before, it gives jobs to many CG people (which is good since I myself am one), and it just shows a general milestone of how CG is progressing from flat shaded models in Tron, to photorealism for short periods of time in Jurassic Park, to Photorealism in a 2 hour movie like Final Fantasy to photorealism in 30 min segments once a week... It's yet another milestone that if not done today, would be done tomorrow by some other company, but should never be questioned on why.
he's not redoing them but he's making a "Special Special Edition." IGN has an article here. Apparently, he's gonna add Amidala into Return of the Jedi somehow and also add more scenes to fit in with the story ark in the rest of the trilogy. This is going to be a shame.
I'm not holding my breath.
Well, you should if you're standing around Balmer. *drumroll*
so whats that mean for the quake sequel?
yeah, he's famous... but you could be too if you went out and murdered either someone famous or a bunch of regular joes. Mitnick went to jail... I would rather live my whole life as one of slashdots "teaming masses" if I didn't have to spend 5 years in prison. That's a conscious choice I make practically every day. I don't envy Mitnick for his fame.
The same story HOURS apart.
soon we'll reach the "dupe story event horizon" where duplicate stories will be posted at EXACTLY THE SAME TIME. Past that point, there will only be one story posted over and over again. It will probably be a dupe.