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Raiders of the Lost Ark: The Adaptation

jonerik writes "Ain't It Cool News has an article on one of the more fascinating fan film projects ever conceived: A shot-for-shot remake of "Raiders of the Lost Ark" filmed in Biloxi, Mississippi between 1982 and 1988 by Eric Zala, Jayson Lamb and Chris Strompolis. What's particularly amazing is that the trio began filming the project when they were twelve and finished six years later when they were eighteen. Now, fifteen years after the project was completed, word of the film's existence has gotten out and audiences who have seen it have reportedly been stunned by the trio's ingenuity, with none other than "RotLA" director Steven Spielberg giving Zala, Lamb, and Strompolis a big thumbs-up. The complete film isn't available online, but a trailer that gives a bit of the feel of the finished project can be viewed. The Austin Chronicle also has a story on the project."

320 comments

  1. How about a DVD? by alain · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe the DVD to the adaptation will be out before the original version's. I certainly have stopped holding my breath for RoT and the original Star Wars series on DVD.

    1. Re:How about a DVD? by aussersterne · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Thumb your nose at the MPAA and get what you want at the same time... I bought both series on DVD on eBay years ago. They're Hong kong "bootlegs" but are basically re-encoded versions from other recordings (i.e. widescreen laserdisc) mastered to region 0 DVD. The Star Wars DVDs in particular are very, very nice indeed and most everyone who sees them asks how I managed to get an advance copy of the "real" Star Wars DVDs.

      Of course, if the "real" versions ever come out, I'll get them as well, but in the meantime, everyone's always turning up asking to watch my copies.

      Also picked up Barton Fink and a couple of other unreleased-on-DVD films this way...

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    2. Re:How about a DVD? by jrl87 · · Score: 1

      Indiana is coming out on DVD in November, read about it here, but I don't know about Star Wars, maybe they're planning on remaking it again for a DVD release.

    3. Re:How about a DVD? by great+throwdini · · Score: 4, Informative
      I certainly have stopped holding my breath for [Raiders of the Lost Ark] ... on DVD.

      Ummm... release date November 4, 2003. You can't wait another five months?

    4. Re:How about a DVD? by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't know about you, but I can't hold my breath 5 months

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    5. Re:How about a DVD? by fireman+sam · · Score: 1

      With the proposition of not breathing for another five months, I too would stop holding my breath.

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    6. Re:How about a DVD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I picked up Barton Fink (and Miller's Crossing) last week, for $15 a piece. They've finally been released.

    7. Re:How about a DVD? by great+throwdini · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      With the proposition of not breathing for another five months, I too would stop holding my breath.

      I don't know what to make of the fact that two /.ers manage the same sentiment (you and this fellow) within the same minute and three message IDs.

      I'd think it humorous if it weren't the usual knee-jerk, literal-minded "ha-ha, me make funny" response. *sigh*

    8. Re:How about a DVD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but have you actually turned on subtitles? I'm partially deaf, but the English subtitles are quite hilarious. Many belong on Engrish.com

    9. Re:How about a DVD? by dimator · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thumb your nose at the MPAA and get what you want at the same time
      ...

      Of course, if the "real" versions ever come out, I'll get them as well

      A real rebel, you are!

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    10. Re:How about a DVD? by Grax · · Score: 2, Funny

      ah. so you'd think it humorous if you didn't make the decision to not think it humorous. you sure are going to a lot of trouble to be unimpressed.

    11. Re:How about a DVD? by great+throwdini · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      so you'd think it humorous if you didn't make the decision to not think it humorous.

      Sure would. It's not a decision, it's recognition of a thing for what it is. Lacking that, I'm sure any number of forced attempts at humor would elicit a laugh rather than a groan.

      Oh, and I was impressed at the simultaneity of remarks above. HAND

    12. Re:How about a DVD? by Psykechan · · Score: 1

      Look's like a trip to the store is in order.

      Barton Fink is available on DVD.

    13. Re:How about a DVD? by LuckyLeprechaun31 · · Score: 1

      Have you all heard about the self-destructing DVDs coming out? I guess they're real cheap and you don't have to return them like a rental. Do you think its a good idea to try it out for a couple days so you can see all the bonus material and decide if its worth buying or not??

    14. Re:How about a DVD? by cybrhippy · · Score: 1

      I can wait the 5 months till this....

      http://www.spielbergfilms.com/raidersdvdpressrel ea se.html

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    15. Re:How about a DVD? by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      Why didn't you just buy the movies on VCD then? I imagine you could have bought legal VCD copies and they'd still work in most DVD players. :)

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    16. Re:How about a DVD? by taernim · · Score: 5, Funny

      I believe the term is: rebel scum
      ;)

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    17. Re:How about a DVD? by Afrosheen · · Score: 1

      Self destructing? Cool. Should be enough for one viewing..and ripping at playing speed with drip will work nicely.

    18. Re:How about a DVD? by evilviper · · Score: 2, Informative

      VCDs are lowsy quality. A step down from VHS, and VHS is already quite poor...

      Laser Discs on the other hand, are better than DVDs IMHO, because they don't have the arifacts that MPEG2 (and 99% of other digital codecs) has.

      I wish I could get LDs of everything, but since I can't, I've settled for DVDs.

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    19. Re:How about a DVD? by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      Ahh. I never had a LaserDisc so I assumed they were equiv to a (s)vcd. What sort of format is a laserdisc? Something non-digital?

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    20. Re:How about a DVD? by evilviper · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Laserdiscs pre-date even audio CDs. When they started out, the audio was simple old analog. Later on though, the audio went to digital, and then a conversion once again to AC3 (long before DVDs). It wasn't a very painful process because they support multiple channels of audio, and there would typically be a mono analog channel along with a 5.1 channel AC3 stream.

      The best (short) explanation of the laserdisc format I've heard is that it consists of an FM signal, written to a very large optical disc. It is tecnically a lower resolution than DVDs, but as I mentioned, I prefer it because I find that MPEG2 video artifacts stand-out quite a bit.

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    21. Re:How about a DVD? by Idimmu+Xul · · Score: 4, Funny

      What sort of format is a laserdisc? Something non-digital?

      Yeah, a laserdisk is technically just an analogue record, but instead of being made out of vinyl, it's made out of titanium cut with a laser (hence the name, laser disk). It is the same size as a record, but needs a special record player with TV out, and a slightly thinner needle to read the grooves as they are a lot thinner on the laserdisc as you need to put video on it as well as sound!

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    22. Re:How about a DVD? by CausticPuppy · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't know about you, but I can't hold my breath 5 months

      It's only hard for the first 4 or 5 minutes.

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    23. Re:How about a DVD? by b-baggins · · Score: 2, Informative
      That's not entirely accurate.

      Some disks were mastered with electron beams (RCA). RCA players also used a stylus, but the Phillips unit used a Helium-Neon laser.

      I know it's gonna take the poor guy's site down, but here's a link to the 1977 Popular Science article talking about both players.

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    24. Re:How about a DVD? by OwnedByTwoCats · · Score: 1

      LaserDiscs started out with an analog FM-encoding of the video signal, so (if the disc is clean) it's studio-broadcast quality. Either 30 minutes/side with effects (CAV, or constant-angular-velocity; disc spins 30 times per second), or 60 minutes/side without (CLV, or constant-linear-velocity; disc slows down as the track gets to the outside, fitting more info on the disc without losing quality--but effect like freeze-frame, fast-forward with video, and slo-motion, didn't work).

      Later (before I bought my LD player around 1989) they got digital sound tracks, and digital buffers to get CAV-like effects for the CLV discs.

    25. Re:How about a DVD? by Blondie-Wan · · Score: 1

      The movies are indeed available on VCD, but not legally. Despite claims to the contrary, Lucasfilm hasn't released the movies on VCD, and the VCDs that are out there are pirated.

    26. Re:How about a DVD? by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      Really they are that big? Wow I always thought they were CD sized. That is actually pretty cool. Is there any reason they don't use a laser to read the disc the way CD's and DVD's do?

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    27. Re:How about a DVD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They do. They are identical in every respect to CD's, just bigger. A laserdisc player plays CD's if the tray has a depression of the right size to line it up. Anyone want a broken player and about $500 worth of disks?

    28. Re:How about a DVD? by SquadBoy · · Score: 1

      You do of course know that there is a dvd coming out.

      http://www.indianajones.com/

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    29. Re:How about a DVD? by LuckyLeprechaun31 · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think you can see the movie for up to 48 hours, so if you wanted to watch it more than once you could. After 48 hours the DVD becomes unreadable. And yeah, it is cool. I can't wait for them to come out, it'll save me alot of money.

    30. Re:How about a DVD? by mfrank · · Score: 1

      There were two types of disks/players. One used a stylus, the other used a laser. Both were analag encoded; the laser one was comprised of a sequence of variable-length pits; the laser reflection would go through a low-pass filter to get audio/video signal. It then just mixed it with Channel 3 video frequency and put it out to the TV (I think).

      My parents have a laser disk player. The disks are about the size of LPs and hold about 45 minutes on a side. "Star Wars" was 1 2-sided disk; "Bridge Over The River Kwai" was 2 2-sided disks. 4:3 aspect ration, though, and some of the disks would start to skip and stutter when you get near the end of a side (the Star Wars one did that; could hardly watch the end of the movie).

    31. Re:How about a DVD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      500 dollars worth of discs? So what is that? 3 or 4 discs?

    32. Re:How about a DVD? by evilviper · · Score: 1
      Really they are that big?

      Yes.

      Is there any reason they don't use a laser to read the disc the way CD's and DVD's do?

      This guy was just pulling your leg... Making it up as he went along.

      Laser Discs were in fact the first device that utilized laser technology, pre-dating audio CDs.

      I have to wonder why they don't use modern high-capacity discs, and keep the old analog video encoding scheme... Audio on newer laserdiscs wwas even AC3.
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    33. Re:How about a DVD? by thynk · · Score: 1

      It's only hard for the first 4 or 5 minutes.

      Crap, I'd have a doubly hard time, I have enough trouble going with out a smoke for 4 or 5 mintues and if I can't breath, I can't smoke!

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    34. Re:How about a DVD? by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I can just imagine how a LaserDisc player attached to my (toaster sized) computer would look if the discs are the size of LPs. It'd look like I had a pizza box attached. LOL.

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    35. Re:How about a DVD? by SpaceJunkie · · Score: 1

      Awww man - what are we gonna do with all the self-destructed dvds when they finish..
      This is gonna mean between AOL CD's, and DVD's Time-Warner-AOL will have the monopoly on landfill..

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    36. Re:How about a DVD? by evilviper · · Score: 1

      I can't imagine why would would have a laserdisc connected to your computer exactly... Remeber, it's analog not digital, so your computer's processor is useless. You would just about have to build an entire laserdisc player into the computer, as well as a TV-in card to bring the video to digital, all for what benefit?

      Hey, you don't have a VCR hooked up to your computer either. Same reasons apply.

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    37. Re:How about a DVD? by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      If it's not connected I can't rip it. Same goes with the VCR. You ever try to find a VHS player designed for a PC.. gawd what a pain!

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    38. Re:How about a DVD? by evilviper · · Score: 1

      Sure you can. TV-tuner cards aren't all that expensive. Hook your PC up to your LD player via S-Video. Hey, ripping a DVD to MPEG4 is slower than real-time on just about any computer out right now, so you don't loose much by having it seperate. Besides, many LDs are controllable via a serial connection, so it would probably be just as easy to record from it as a seperate device.

      LDs not being digital, it wouldn't be easy to rip even if it was connected.

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    39. Re:How about a DVD? by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      You can do it your way but it is sloppy in general. To have a complete system you have to build a player that can also be written to and can be ordered to rewind, fast forward, play, stop, and record from software.. as well as the real hard part which is making the thing keep proper records and confirm the status. I'm really surprised there aren't at least a couple easily purchased drives like this. I built a vending machine to convert vhs tapes to dvd and whew what a pain. I'd think LD would be the same.

      Why would you rip to mpeg4? I just rip to the good old standard mpeg. Each movie is practically identical to what is on the dvd - just have the encryption removed.

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    40. Re:How about a DVD? by evilviper · · Score: 1
      To have a complete system you have to build a player that can also be written to

      There are lots of types of read-only media. People didn't have any problem with CDs/DVDs before recordables came out.

      and can be ordered to rewind, fast forward, play, stop, and record from software..

      Many can. Typically, there is a serial port on them, which allows them to be controlled by a computer. In fact, some arcade games actually had laserdisc players in the cabinet, controlled by the game processor. Based on gameplay, the processor would tell the laserdisc player what scene to go to, how long to play, etc.

      I built a vending machine to convert vhs tapes to dvd and whew what a pain.

      What is the problem? I've digitized numerous videotapes quite easilly, using standard computer hardware.

      Why would you rip to mpeg4? I just rip to the good old standard mpeg. Each movie is practically identical to what is on the dvd - just have the encryption removed.

      I believe you mean MPEG2, as that is the DVD's native format. In fact, there are numerous reasons to convert to MPEG4. Much of the time, I encode at an insanely high bitrate, and MPEG4 reverts to a lossless conversion from MPEG2, which reduces the filesize by half. The encoding time may be significant, but playback of MPEG4 at DVD resolutions doesn't require significantly more processing power, while you spend far less on storage.

      I have considered using MPEG-1 for a few reasons. First, the lack of licensing is a very good thing, and #2, MPEG-1 artfacts due to an insuffecient bitrate is much nicer than MPEG2/4. Instead of getting blocky, the picture gets slightly fuzzy, which stands out much less. Unfortunately, MPEG-1 just wasn't made for high quality video, and even at high bitrates it just can't reproduce details as well as MPEG2/4, leaving the entire video looking fuzzy compared to the MPEG2/4 versions.
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    41. Re:How about a DVD? by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      Sounds as if ripping LD's would be easier than VHS. It's not exactly the rippiing of VHS that is hard as much as making sure everything does what it's supposed to. I've yet to find an off the shelf VCR with anything like a serial port interface.

      Yes, MPEG2 is what I mean. MPEG4 in my experience has more artifacts than MPEG2 although this may be possibly because you keep the MPEG2 artifacts and add new ones. At least when ripping a DVD to MPEG4. I don't care about disk space really. It's my goal is to cross the terabyte mark in my home storage yet this year. Amazing how fast you go through space with 5Gb or so a file. Overall, I'm very pleased with the quality though. As you say DVD isn't a perfect standard but it's good enough for my use (at least for now).

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    42. Re:How about a DVD? by evilviper · · Score: 1
      MPEG4 in my experience has more artifacts than MPEG2

      Just try re-encoding an MPEG2 file to MPEG4 at an incredibly high bitrate, something like 4000Kbps. It actually skips the lossy encoding of the video frames (keeping the MPEG2 unmodified), and just uses more effecient lossless compression on the data, so you don't gain any more artifacts.

      It's my goal is to cross the terabyte mark in my home storage yet this year.

      I would suggest you look into DVD burners so you can off-load most of that. I was forced to do the same thing, and I have built up an array of several hundreds of GBs of HDD storage myself (before I started off-loading video and audio onto discs). Sooner or later, I bet you, too, will have to do the same. Hard drives are just too damn expensive, and their prices don't drop fast enough. Hard drives are definately not going to be as cheap as blank discs, for decades to come.
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    43. Re:How about a DVD? by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I've been paying a little under a dollar a gig for hdd space. I can't see how a DVD burner is much cheaper especially considering the hassle of storing physical objects. Of course I also rip movies so that a special interface I've designed can be used to select and playback the movies (for my handicapped sisters use).

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    44. Re:How about a DVD? by evilviper · · Score: 1
      I've been paying a little under a dollar a gig for hdd space. I can't see how a DVD burner is much cheaper

      HDD=$1/GB (that's usually unreliable, 5400RPM drives, requiring constant power, etc. but I won't worry about that right now)

      DVD-R media can easilly be found for under $0.80/disc in packs of 50 or more. At 4.7GB per disc, that means each dollar is buying you about 6GB, or better. That is not to mention the advantages of removable media, such as being able to playback on DVD players, easilly keeping multiple copies, possibly off-site. They are far more durable than hard drives, and more reliable in fact. etc.

      But hey, you can do whatever you want to do...
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  2. Um, yay? by holysin · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Nifty, something that's not available online advertised on slashdot. Now where's the real geek news?

  3. Ah yes.... by sethadam1 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    This is when it pays to be a subscriber. Download at 100+ kbps before the /.'ing begins.

    1. Re:Ah yes.... by ender_wiggins · · Score: 5, Funny

      I got it at 100kbps too. And I dont subscribe. Ah it pays to keep your money in your pocket.

    2. Re:Ah yes.... by ObviousGuy · · Score: 1

      A penny saved is a penny earned.

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    3. Re:Ah yes.... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      This is when it pays to be a subscriber. Download at 100+ kbps before the /.'ing begins.

      I don't subscribe, and I got it at 65KBps, which is 520Kbps!

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    4. Re:Ah yes.... by pherthyl · · Score: 1

      funny that. I'm not a subscriber and downloaded it at 411 kb/s.

    5. Re:Ah yes.... by balthan · · Score: 1

      Money that never gets spent has no value.

    6. Re:Ah yes.... by ObviousGuy · · Score: 1

      Save your money for a rainy day.

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    7. Re:Ah yes.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Geez, it's only ~1MB anyway, get over it! What did ya do with those extra seconds you saved anyway?

  4. I'm sick by Swayne+Shabazz · · Score: 5, Funny
    This sounds funny....sort of. Watching three guys progress through puberty isn't exactly what I would call "entertainment".

    I was gonna throw in a "now three young girls progressing through....." punch line....but....nahhhh, even I'm not that perverted.

    1. Re:I'm sick by GimmeFuel · · Score: 5, Funny
      but....nahhhh, even I'm not that perverted.

      ...but I am!

      "Now three young girls progressing through puberty, that's a different story! I'd sure like to raid their arks!"

    2. Re:I'm sick by Mr.+Fusion · · Score: 1
      I was gonna throw in a "now three young girls progressing through....." punch line....but....nahhhh, even I'm not that perverted.

      Of course you are, you're on Slashdot.

      -Mr. Fusion

    3. Re:I'm sick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see that you watch anime too!!

    4. Re:I'm sick by Savatte · · Score: 4, Funny

      If they remade the other two, you could make a joke about finding the holy grail, trying to drink from it, but ending up in the temple of doom.

    5. Re:I'm sick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      even I'm not that perverted.

      Sure you are. Every guy is - he's either a "pervert" or a liar.

    6. Re:I'm sick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bwah! Mod parent up!

    7. Re:I'm sick by Cruciform · · Score: 1

      And if they shot out of order it would be like watching Britney's Breasts.

  5. talk about dedicated fans by curtlewis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    that's alot of work just to duplicate your favorite film and it's not like they'll make anything from the effort other than the satisfaction of having done it.

    But then, back in my teens in the mainframe and paper tape days, I wrote my own version of the ever popular Star Trek game. I didn't need to, I could play the original all I wanted. Even the source code was available. But I thought I could do the same job in a more easily understood manner. So I coded up a virtually identical version. It was much less code and alot easier to read, although the original was a little faster.

    So I guess remaking something you like just because you can must be some kind of teen geek ritual.

    1. Re:talk about dedicated fans by LoztInSpace · · Score: 1
      So I guess remaking something you like just because you can must be some kind of teen geek ritual.
      Not just teens. I work with a guy who rewrites stuff all the time and it's really fucking annoying. Halfway through a project you find out he's achieved nothing because he's taken it upon himself to rewrite something that worked fine but he didn't understand. Once done, it breaks everything and he then goes on to protest how much better it is than what was there before. Now we're late and broken.
      Sorry - that's totally o/t but I suppose my point is some people never grow out of it. I wasn't having a go at your star trek game at all. Just those that do it at work.
    2. Re:talk about dedicated fans by isomeme · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Back in Ye Olde Days, this was a standard part of being an apprentice artisan. Before you got set loose to create new designs, you had to practice recreating old ones until you could do it perfectly. I think there's a lot to be said for this system, and it's rather cool that a certain kind of geek imposes it on him- or herself as if by instinct.

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    3. Re:talk about dedicated fans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Old days?

      Everything - *everything* - is learned using the method you describe.

      It's not like a newly-minted heart surgeon walks into his first triple bypass and says, "Hey, I have a great idea...".

      *cough*Hello, World*cough*

    4. Re:talk about dedicated fans by KrispyKringle · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I don't know; I think it really depends on the art or skill. For example, repainting something from the Old Masters means that, at the very least, you will master the physical techniques if not the creative or visual rendering aspects. Recoding a video game--when you have the source--until you can do it perfectly probably amounts to memorizing the code. Being able to understand the code, and, more importantly, being able to design code to fulfill unexpected needs, is far more important.

      What really strikes me about this is that in a shot-for-shot remake, with, it looks, even the same camera angles, you are doing what amounts to copying the strokes in an Old Master's painting. Stroke-for-stroke, or shot-for-shot, allows no individual expression in depicting the scene; at the very most the actor learned a little while trying to do an exact copy of Harrison Ford's acting style.

      Acting and cinimetography (granted, not that demonstrated in, say, Armageddon) are individual expressions of an artistic creativity. Copying the work of someone else requires skill, but not the same sort.

      That said, I think these guys just did it because they were young fanboys. Nothing wrong with that. But I wouldn't call it high art, either.

    5. Re:talk about dedicated fans by isomeme · · Score: 1

      Yes, but for the apprentice artists, learning to duplicate the brushstrokes or camera angles of a Master will allow them to put their own brush or camera in exactly the right place when it's their turn to be creative. If I have a brilliant painting in my head but I can't put paint on canvas as I imagine it, I will fail. The same idea applies to all creative disciplines. Mechanics are not the interesting part, but they're utterly necessary and often best learned through imitation.

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    6. Re:talk about dedicated fans by isomeme · · Score: 1

      The anlogy has some difficulties. With heart surgery, the range for creativity is a little narrower, and the outcome is valued on a very different scale. With purely creative work, anyone can claim to be doing it, and the only guideline as to who is successful is critical and popular acknowledgement. And you'll note (just for example) that nearly every successful abstract artist started his career learning and mastering realism, because realism hones the skills that make successful abstract art possible.

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    7. Re:talk about dedicated fans by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I think it was great that their school had classes on such topics to help get them started. They must have had REALLY understanding parents too. Can you imagine letting your kid douse themself with gasoline and set themselves on fire just so they could put it in a movie? Not to mention letting them use your expensive movie equipment.

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    8. Re:talk about dedicated fans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Sounds nice, means nothing."

    9. Re:talk about dedicated fans by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 1

      I did the same thing (but not the Trek game).

      I used an old North American (Autonetics) Recomp III. One of the stock programs on tape was a GCD/LCM program. I was 12, and had learned how to program the machine about 6 weeks previous. I managed to clone the program to the point where the teacher and his TA were amazed.

      Granted, it was only a simple algorithm, but the hardware was primitive, and I even cloned the error outputs.

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    10. Re:talk about dedicated fans by ReadParse · · Score: 1

      You wrote: that's alot of work just to duplicate your favorite film and it's not like they'll make anything from the effort other than the satisfaction of having done it.

      Uh, they're making headlines and they have the world premier this weekend. Speilberg loves it. I really want to see it, and I assume I'm not alone. It probably won't go into wide circulation, but it might get some limited theater release, or be shown on TV, or be sold on DVD or something. They're buond to make some money from it.

    11. Re:talk about dedicated fans by dforsey · · Score: 1
      Flashback!


      Built my version of Star Trek on a PDP-8a, FTREK eventually made its way onto the decus tapes.


      Eventually I made a multiplayer simulation in APL running
      on an Amdahl mainframe since it was the only subsystem with
      inter-process communication (I/O was through IBM selectric
      teletypes.... no crt's at that time...)


      I must be officially old now... :-)

    12. Re:talk about dedicated fans by Pope · · Score: 1

      Sounds like he needs a stern talking to from management, or needs to be fired.

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    13. Re:talk about dedicated fans by Vagary · · Score: 1

      But what about doing it without having the code? Perhaps young apprentices (first-years) could start replicating a program with all the functions specified, then move up to just the architecture, until finally students would be doing black-box reverse-engineering including performance constraints. I think this could be a very successful way to teach programming...

    14. Re:talk about dedicated fans by thynk · · Score: 1

      Sounds like he needs a stern talking to from management, or needs to be fired.

      Shouldn't that read, "Sounds like he needs a stern talking to from management, or is management already?

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    15. Re:talk about dedicated fans by Wizzy+Wig · · Score: 1
      "But then, back in my teens in the mainframe and paper tape days, I wrote my own version of the ever popular Star Trek game. I didn't need to, I could play the original all I wanted."

      When did you ever find time back then? What with us all huddling around small fires in caves trying to scare off the sabertooth tigers and all...

  6. Copyright Violation! by Michael's+a+Jerk! · · Score: 1, Troll

    Great - I give those kids a week before they get sued.

    Nice one Slashdot!

    (For humor impaired moderations - move along, nothing to read here)

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    1. Re:Copyright Violation! by dirvish · · Score: 3, Interesting

      true enough. Spieldberg gave them the thumbs up, but who owns the rights to the movie they copied?

    2. Re:Copyright Violation! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, this should be considered a parody and fully protected under copyright law. And they could even sell it and make money.

    3. Re:Copyright Violation! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Actually, I give it about a week before George Lucas and Lucasfilm release the "Special Edition" DVD of it and charge $40....

    4. Re:Copyright Violation! by YOU+LIKEWISE+FAIL+IT · · Score: 4, Informative
      The issue of what constitutes parody came up in the Penny Arcade / American Greetings discussions a while ago. Is a scene for scene remake a protected 'parody' when it does not excercise criticism ( usually humorously or mockingly ) upon the original work?

      I think 'derivative work' is a more fitting appelation here. Of course, I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on television, but I'm pretty sure that Parody isn't a catch all term that grabs all works in this class.

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    5. Re:Copyright Violation! by Bonker · · Score: 1

      In Japanese, use of the English 'Parody' often refers to any fan-made derivative material as well as critical works.

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    6. Re:Copyright Violation! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm fairly certain they're "judgment proof" and no one will bother suing them, no money in it for anyone.

      Now if they were losing sales because of a derivative work, OR these kids were making money off it - maybe... But this only brings more attention to RotLA, which can only be a good thing for the copyright holders. I wouldn't be surprised if they bought the rights to the "parody" and put it on a "limited edition - 5 disc RotLA."

    7. Re:Copyright Violation! by Warped-Reality · · Score: 1

      We speak English in the United States...

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    8. Re:Copyright Violation! by spongman · · Score: 2, Funny

      A week for a LucasFilm DVD? You're kidding, right?

    9. Re:Copyright Violation! by erroneous · · Score: 1

      Well, almost.

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    10. Re:Copyright Violation! by while(true) · · Score: 1

      IANAL, but I don't see how making a copy for personal amusement would be a violation of copyright. If they start distributing and/or selling it though that's another story...

    11. Re:Copyright Violation! by dirvish · · Score: 1

      The article is about how a bunch of people have seen it and enjoyed. So, it is being distributed in some fashion.

  7. legality by ianmalcm · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Wheres the MPAA? Now that this fan film is known, gaining mass popularity, and may become mildly successful, will there be legal ramifications for copyright infringement?

    Shot for Shot remake, certainly the Writers guild will have something to say.

    A brilliant piece of work though. Puts Hardware Wars to shame.

    1. Re:legality by D'Arque+Bishop · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wheres the MPAA? Now that this fan film is known, gaining mass popularity, and may become mildly successful, will there be legal ramifications for copyright infringement?

      If you read the story, you'd know that not only does Steven Spielberg know about it (the guy who ran the projector at the AICN film festival it was shown at gave him a copy), he was astonished by how good it is.

      I think they're safe for now.

    2. Re:legality by MisterMook · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Since when did the creators of a work have ultimate say so on the legality of a work once a corporate lawyer got involved? I'd say that Spielberg might give them all ice cream, but if the lawyers sniff trademark infringement they'll act faster that you can say crack o'the whip to send someone to seize all the copies. It isn't right and it isn't the way it should be, but it stands a pretty good chance of being the way things lay down.

    3. Re:legality by Achoi77 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Huh? Have the MPAA go after a buncha ppl that made a shot-by-shot remake of an 80's movie taped on a video camera, when they were 12 years old? That's just plain mean, and besides, nobodys made any money out of it.

      I don't think this film was even meant to be distributed around. It was one of those flukes that floated around the web, sorta like the Star Wars kid. I am VERY instereted in seeing how they pulled it off. Anyone got a copy?

    4. Re:legality by EvanED · · Score: 1

      My guess is that the courts will not hand down mare than a light sentence if Spielberg gives it his approval...

    5. Re:legality by The+Master+Control+P · · Score: 1

      This just out from the MPAA:

      "We're not in this for the money. We're in it for Principles. Those evil people STOLE our INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, and need to be prosecuted. You may now resume the two minute's hate."

    6. Re:legality by ClosedSource · · Score: 1

      They made a deal with Jack Valenti - they told him they would give him a big part in their next project: Star Wars Episode VI. He's going to play the emperor.

    7. Re:legality by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 1

      Think Dimitri Skylarov. Adobe dropped the case quickly, the FBI didnt.

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    8. Re:legality by JahToasted · · Score: 1
      I think Spielburg would like it because when he has a kid he made a lot of war movies. I'm not sure if he remade any movies himself, but it is quite possible.

      Whats that saying about copying being the highest form of flattery?

    9. Re:legality by EvanED · · Score: 1

      But did Adobe give their blessing to the project? (Perhaps a better analogy: did the Adobe CEO give his blessing to the project?)

    10. Re:legality by mfrank · · Score: 1

      Hey kids, it's Steven Spielberg. If you run a movie studio, you don't piss off Steven Spielberg by doing something that will give him bad press.

    11. Re:legality by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 1

      Dropping the suit implies it, though I doubt it was ever said for legal reasons.

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    12. Re:legality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the hell does Adobe have to do with anything?

  8. Woah by zptdooda · · Score: 5, Funny

    Man they'd have to have big balls to attempt that scene!

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    1. Re:Woah by 3waygeek · · Score: 1

      no, they'd only need the one.

  9. Holy shit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They did this with Betamax and VHS? That must've meant linear editors - I don't envy them that task...

    1. Re:Holy shit! by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Informative

      You can do non-linear editing with VHS, it is just a bit trickey. You need a minimum of two decks, and 3 works much better. With a two deck setup you drop markers where you want it to start and stop and in what order. The unit that controls the decks then takes care of the rest. It holds the record VCR, gets the play VCR to where it needs to be, starts them in sync, records what it needs, stops, goes to the next point, etc.

      Now this approach is not without problems. The biggest problem I found was with the seeking of the VCRs. Even on fairly expensive ones (like $500 at the time I think), they weren't frame accurate. So you had to fudge your cuts by about 3 frames in both directions, you couldn't get it dead on. I'm sure that $2000+ master units can seek to a single frame, but none that I've ever touched. Also, you don't really know how it is going to look till its all done, you can't really preview it since there is often a lot of time in seeking inbetween shots. YOu have to set the whole thing up, let it do the dub, tehn see if it came out ok. If not, you have to make the changes and redo the dub. Each time, of course, is slightly wearing down your master. Wrose still is if you want to use multiple cameras and tapes. The 2-deck controllers I used never understood this concept, they wouldn't prompt for tape switches. So you either had to shoot it all on one tape, or get a setup with 3 decks.

      However, it is all possable to do non-linear. Just because it isn't digital, doesn't imply linear editing. Heck, before digital (and even now in some cases) you could do non-linear editing with film by simply physically cutting and taping together the segments. Same for audio. Get a 2-inch master tape, a sharp knife, some gloces, some tape and a lot of patience.

    2. Re:Holy shit! by canadian_right · · Score: 1
      This is pretty impressive. I made some short films when I was a kid on regular 8 film (film, not video). Many hours of work went into each minute of film: model making, stop motion animation, editing etc... My longest film was about 6 minutes.

      I did editing on a small manual editor and a manual splicer. Each roll only held 10 minutes of film, and you had to mail it "back east" to get it developed. I did little SF films, special effects for lasers were directly scratched onto the film (after processing) and coloured with a felt pen. Used both homemade models (balsa wood, toilet paper rolls, stryofoam balls, glue, plaster and paint), and model kits. Did stop motion "claymation", space battles, and one live action kungfu and sorcery film. The film was silent. I tried syncing the film to a casette tape, but my projector does not have any pre-set speeds, just an analog rotary dial. No matter what I tried, I couldn't get the projector to play at the same speed twice in a row. A lot of work, but a lot of fun.

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    3. Re:Holy shit! by blincoln · · Score: 1

      The biggest problem I found was with the seeking of the VCRs. Even on fairly expensive ones (like $500 at the time I think), they weren't frame accurate. So you had to fudge your cuts by about 3 frames in both directions, you couldn't get it dead on. I'm sure that $2000+ master units can seek to a single frame, but none that I've ever touched.

      It's really not that hard, it just takes practice. Back when I was in high school (early 90s), my friends and I would make 1/2 to 1 hour movies. In the beginning we only had one camera, but by the end we were using several, and many tapes to edit down from. The fanciest VCR we had was a consumer VHS deck with a jog/shuttle dial and a flying erase head (w00t!). You could dial in the frame on that where you wanted to start recording, and we just got really good at unpausing it when the action got to the right part on the playback deck feeding into it. Usually one person would take the recording deck, one the playback deck, and switch off on doing the video effects/titling boxes and/or the audio mixer (for audio effects, music, etc.).

      Once, for a school project, one of our parents funded a trip to a real editing suite, which had two SVHS decks with a frame-accurate editing console. It was pretty cool - you'd use the jog/shuttle dial on the left side to set the start and end points for a clip on the playback deck, and then use the one on the right side to set the start point on the recording deck. You could preview what the edit would look like, and then it automatically did it for you when you were sure you wanted it done.

      Of course, it's about 10,000 times easier using computer systems now. At the time I was impressed that they had a Video Toaster in the corner =).

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    4. Re:Holy shit! by SmittyTheBold · · Score: 1

      We did something like this for a school project with some equipment that the local cable co. had for the cable-access channel, but the "flying erase head" (so said the resident tech) caused problems for us because abotu 5 frames would be erased at the end of every segment we pasted in like this. We learned that you *had* do do things in order.

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    5. Re:Holy shit! by Xesdeeni · · Score: 1

      What you describe is called LINEAR editing. That's where you have to fast forward and rewind through the tape--a.k.a. linear access. Non-linear access requires the ability to randomly access the video. Yes, cut up film can be thought of as non-linear, but unless you cut up the video tape, it's linear.

      Xesdeeni

    6. Re:Holy shit! by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

      No, it's reallly non-linear. YOu confuse random access with instant random access. With a dual (or more) deck setup as I describe and a controller unit, you can access anywhere on the tape you like and map it to anywhere on the new tape. The seek time is not relivant to its linearity. A linear editing system, which does exist in the digital domain as well, see VirtualDub, can only work on things in, well, a line. You can cut a clip to be smaller than the orignal, and process your cut, but you can't do multiple cuts or multiple sources and recombine in an arbitrary order. You just process a given selection and are done.

      So VHS editing as described IS non-linear, just difficult. You are perfectly capable of cutting up a tape in any random order for any length (assuming your VCRs and controllers are good enough) and then assemble it on a new source.

  10. 6 years. by _RidG_ · · Score: 5, Funny

    6 years of doing this. Now that's dedication. My interest in re-enacting scenes from Indiana Jones waned after a heated August afternoon with a bunch of friends, following which the guy who played an evil German had to be rushed to the hospital.

    Ahh...good times.

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    1. Re:6 years. by EverDense · · Score: 4, Funny

      6 years of doing this. Now that's dedication. My interest in re-enacting scenes from Indiana
      Jones waned after a heated August afternoon with a bunch of friends, following which the guy who
      played an evil German had to be rushed to the hospital.

      You should have used those little plastic army men, a cigarette lighter and an aerosol can, for
      the "melting german soldiers" scene.

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    2. Re:6 years. by _RidG_ · · Score: 1

      Yes, but let me ask you, would they have screamed as authentically as my poor friend did? Hmph! I think not. I also think you underestimate the inherent evilness of a prepubescent mind. :)

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    3. Re:6 years. by mfrank · · Score: 1

      You must have watched Michael Richards (well before he was Kramer) on "Fridays" in the late 80's . . .

  11. lets see.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Hmmmm, kids making films....

    Yep, sounds like a frontpage slashdot story to me.

    Thanks /.!

  12. Ingenious? by Sancho · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Am I the only one who thinks that a shot-by-shot remake of a movie is far from ingenious? Hell, when Gus Van Sant did it with Psycho, he was criticized for making it too identical. It's cool that they did it, and were able to manage it on what we must assume is a fairly small budget, but I think the hype over this thing is getting way out of hand.

    1. Re:Ingenious? by imaginate · · Score: 1

      I agree, and to call it an "adaptation" seems a little over the top from what I saw. It IS very impressive, but what did they adapt it to? Video?

    2. Re:Ingenious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think more than anything else, people are cheering it on because of the ingenuity displayed by these kids in filming this movie. Low budget movies like that are far more impressive than stale Hollywood remakes precisely because they are low budget - people have to improvise. Surely you would not see the remake for the plot or anything new - it's a remake, you've seen it before. It's just something that makes me step back and marvel at what can be accomplished if you are dedicated enough.

    3. Re:Ingenious? by Greg@UF · · Score: 5, Interesting

      When you read the article, Speilberg praises the boys' "vast amounts of imagination and originality".

      That's good enough for me.

      Besides, these kids were *kids* - not Gus Wossname with millions of bucks and a full production crew.
      Kudos to the kids !

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    4. Re:Ingenious? by Sancho · · Score: 1

      But remakes can be more impressive than the original. The new intpretation can be quite interesting and ... frankly ... ingenious. But when you re-shoot something scene by scene with nearly identical actions, dialogue, etc. it's just not interesting.

      Anyway, I'd be far more interested in seeing a documentary on how these kids remade the film than actually watching it.

  13. others were supressed, nice to see this one live by dirvish · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is a prime example of a copy of a previous work as a beautiful thing. Immitation really is the greatest form of flattery. It is terrible that works like this are normally supressed by copyright laws that don't serve the populance. The point of laws is to serve the populance. Clearly supression of creative expression serves no one. It is encouraging to see that Spielberg gave them a thumbs up on this project, but I don't doubt he would sue the pants off of them it he thought their project would harm his extensive bank roll. And who can really blame him if he did, he would just be taking advantage of the ludicrous law of the land. Who knows how many other cool projects like this have/will never seen/see the light of day as a result of corporate america's tight grip on the world.

  14. Too many acronyms... by csguy314 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Am I the only one who saw 'RotLA' and thought:
    "Rolling on the laugh ass", what the hell?

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    1. Re:Too many acronyms... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      resting on the liquid asphalt

    2. Re:Too many acronyms... by BrynM · · Score: 4, Funny

      Better to roll on the laugh ass than have the laugh ass roll on you.

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    3. Re:Too many acronyms... by paranoos · · Score: 1

      My head was stuck in Middle Earth... Return of the Los Angeles Kings?

    4. Re:Too many acronyms... by fireman+sam · · Score: 2, Funny

      RotLA so close to LotR, I thought it was Ring of the Lord A. Damn, too much pr0n

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    5. Re:Too many acronyms... by DashEvil · · Score: 1

      I hope you guys realize that it's only an acrynom if it's pronounced as a word.

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    6. Re:Too many acronyms... by fireman+sam · · Score: 1

      yeah, but this is slashdot

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    7. Re:Too many acronyms... by Forkenhoppen · · Score: 1

      I hope you guys realize that it's only an acrynom if it's pronounced as a word.

      Ahh.. ..but is it an acronym?

    8. Re:Too many acronyms... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Return? They'll never win the cup.

    9. Re:Too many acronyms... by Bingo+Foo · · Score: 1

      Personally, my favorite by Spielberg is ETtET.

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    10. Re:Too many acronyms... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better not go to Soviet Russia any time soon then ;)

    11. Re:Too many acronyms... by CowardWithAName · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's only an acronym if it's an Annoyingly Cryptic Reference Or Name You Make.

  15. aye aye... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    this is all to the good, but I'm going to wait ten years for the "director's cut" with gratuitous CGI, unnecessary scenes, etc..

    It would be in keeping with the Spielberg spirit, after all..

  16. I have mod points! by calethix · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... if any karma whore out there has a bittorrent of it or something ;)

    1. Re:I have mod points! by TrekkieGod · · Score: 3, Funny
      Yeah...and I would do it, if you hadn't posted the request, making your ineligible for giving me that mod point.

      Now there's just no more incentive :)

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    2. Re:I have mod points! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      I have mod points!
      if any karma whore out there has a bittorrent of it or something

      ...then you won't be able to moderate their post, since you've already posted here.

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    3. Re:I have mod points! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you can download it on Gnutella2 (using Shareaza) here. A torrent for this small file is kind of a waste.

    4. Re:I have mod points! by calethix · · Score: 1

      That's ok... I lied about having mod points anyway ;)

    5. Re:I have mod points! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      eeeh I think the dude wanted a torrent of the full movie, not
      one of that tiny trailer, ace.

      cheers.

  17. Re:NAKED PROSTUS!!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how do we know you're naked?

  18. Cool by The+Bungi · · Score: 1, Funny

    But I do hope the quality is slightly better than the one with the Star Wars kid...

    1. Re:Cool by BrainInAJar · · Score: 1

      Where'd you snag that from, anyways?

      Wanna give me a .torrent?

    2. Re:Cool by The+Bungi · · Score: 1

      Worked last I checked.

    3. Re:Cool by sharkey · · Score: 1
      But I do hope the quality is slightly better than the one with the Star Wars kid...

      Probably, but that's not saying much.

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  19. Young Whippersnappers by daeley · · Score: 5, Funny

    Back in my day, we didn't have all that new-fangled technology to put ourselves in our favorite movies. We did it all in our minds! Uphill! In the snow! Through barbed wired and acid pits! And we liked it!

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    1. Re:Young Whippersnappers by doublem · · Score: 1

      Well of COURSE it was Uphill! In the snow! Through barbed wired and acid pits!. Those were the fun parts of the "Spaceman cody and the Invasion of the Moon People" serials we watched at the theater every weekend!

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  20. They ruined it! by ObviousGuy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Scimitar-wielding man shot first!

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    1. Re:They ruined it! by raduga · · Score: 4, Funny
      Actually, they replaced the scimitar with a walkie-talkie.

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    2. Re:They ruined it! by Cruel+Angel · · Score: 1

      Truth be told, the origional scene was to have Doctor Jones engage in a sword fight. I forget what the reason for it being changed was, but it was rewritten during shooting to his adversary being shot.

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    3. Re:They ruined it! by ObviousGuy · · Score: 1

      Urban legend points to Harrison Ford having a bad case of the runs that morning.

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    4. Re:They ruined it! by glorinc · · Score: 1

      Actually, I heard that during the filming of this scene in Egypt, Harrison Ford was struck with a rather nasty case of "Cleopatra's Revenge". After filming multiple takes throughout the day, when it came time for this scene, he felt soo poorly that he simply drew his gun and fired. Spielberg thought that was funny, so they changed the scene to include that version.

  21. Re:others were supressed, nice to see this one liv by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the hell is a populance?

  22. In other news... by AvantLegion · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    ... I'm in preproduction for a remake of Indiana Bones: Raiders of the Lost Arse.

    Casting call for leading ladies will be held in my apartment.

    1. Re:In other news... by AvantLegion · · Score: 1
      "Flamebait"?

      You stupid mods. This was chickbait!

  23. Okay, I managed to snag a copy. by pi_rules · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's not much, and the encoding seems rather horrible if you ask me, but I managed to snag a copy before the Slashdot effect took over. Their front page seems to be loading rather slowly now.

    So, if you want to watch an AMD K6/2 400mhz go up in flames on a 768kbps DSL line. Here you go:

    Raider's of the Lost Ark Remake Trailer

    My ISP is so going to kill me...

    1. Re:Okay, I managed to snag a copy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Justin! What the hell is this?

      Are you the StarWar's Kid?

      hahahhaa.... I don't know why I find your mp3 funny, but I'm chuckling.

      Enjoy the slashdotting.

      AC

    2. Re:Okay, I managed to snag a copy. by Polyphemis · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sometimes I wonder if moderators mod up posts like this simply because they find it amusing seeing other peoples' servers burst into flames and die. :)

    3. Re:Okay, I managed to snag a copy. by pi_rules · · Score: 1

      Actually, it looks like I'm doing okay. I'm watching the MRTG graphs every 5 minute update period and there's still some room left for outgoing bandwidth. Not much, but at least I'm not pegged at 100% just yet. Then again, maybe that steady line for a bit at 60KB/s means that my ISP itself is running a bit low on bandwidth.

      I see 21 apache processes, so if you assume 70KB/s divided by 20, well, they're only getting 3.5KB/s each. However, the server itself is far from being maxed out. Just the bandwidth. I did something like this before and made sure I optimized my webserver a bit to handle such a situation before I posted it. You'll at least get a connection and an open handle to the file, albeit a slow download.

      Okay, MRTG just updated and I'm maxed now at 78KB/s outgoing with 24 running apache processes and that Cisco router is blinking like crazy. Whoot!

    4. Re:Okay, I managed to snag a copy. by BrainInAJar · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't know, but I know I'm doing my part by downloading it every few mins or so

    5. Re:Okay, I managed to snag a copy. by Polyphemis · · Score: 1

      Well hey, that's great then. Props to you for hosting! That's how I manage to get most of the media off of Slashdot, so I'm really glad that people like you are generous enough to do this. :) Thanks!

  24. Fantastic Job by Soulslayer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I saw this last Saturday. One of the most entertaining movie going experiences I ever had.

    These guys did every sequence in the movie save one. After some frightening messing around with explosives they opted not to attempt the flying wing sequence despite having access to an aircraft and the part of the bald mechanic already cast.

    Every other scene is there though and done with impressive skill given their ages and the era in which they made it.

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  25. Re:others were supressed, nice to see this one liv by ObviousGuy · · Score: 1

    It is the word used to group together the entire population into one entity. I'm sure we can come to an agreeance on that.

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  26. Re:others were supressed, nice to see this one liv by dirvish · · Score: 1

    Holy crap! You're right, that isn't a word. I guess I meant populace. Thanks.

  27. Download Link? by doorbot.com · · Score: 1, Redundant

    What, no BitTorrent link?

    I guess if you want it you'll have to check Kazaa for yourself!

    1. Re:Download Link? by Zed2K · · Score: 2, Informative

      The reason you can't find it to download is because there are only a few dvd copies out there and they all belong to the people that were the main participants. There are some video tape copies given to friends and family but I doubt you'll see it online soon. I think there is too much respect for these people and what they did to spread it for free. But you never know, it may pop up eventually.

    2. Re:Download Link? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the real reason you can't find it is the lack of demand. Really, how many people want to see a low-budget remake of a 20 year old film they've already seen a dozen times? Novilty would be the only reason.

    3. Re:Download Link? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Three words: Star Wars Kid.

      Downloaded millions of times. Also low budget. Showing stuff we've already seen, or hell, probably already done. Guess the only thing left is novelty, by your measure.

  28. Ha! I did something similar! by Tin+Weasil · · Score: 2, Funny

    Only it wasn't quite "shot for shot". ...and it was called "Raiders of the Burning Bush." ...and it starred "Idaho Smith" not "Indiana Jones." ...and "our hero" ended up with 1st degree burns after digging up the bush (he was subsequently beaten by Nazi Ninjas.

    1. Re:Ha! I did something similar! by JahToasted · · Score: 1
      Fun Fact:

      Did you know that it was originally supposed to be Indiana Smith starring Tom Seleck?

  29. Re:Awesome news! by sridev · · Score: 3, Funny

    A really cool thing to do... I didn't realize Mississippi was so boring!

  30. This... by Scalli0n · · Score: 1

    This is known as an obsesession.

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  31. This I would enjoy seeing by zakezuke · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When we go and pay our $7.00 for slightly less then 2hrs of entertainment, less we forget the fact that the fact that amature fan spinoffs done by essentually students can provide entertainment. While they can't nessicarly match the production quality of hollywood's almost endless budget, there is alot more to a media then it's production value, content is a factor too.

    Starship Exeter [www.starshipexeter.com] is one example of fan based work. Based on classic star trek, their one release actually has a somewhat decent story as well as capturing that late 60's sci-fi theme while by todays standards is considered most cheezy. If you can get over the wind in the boom low quality film and shacky camera man, it's a worth see.

    Now, i'm not nessicarly going to say that this is going to be any good... but it should prove to be entertaining at the very least. More so then alot of things targeted tward the typcial 12 year old. I intend to watch it, if for nothing else but to use as an example, "Look at what these 12 year olds did... hollywood you have no excuse".

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    1. Re:This I would enjoy seeing by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 1

      "Look at what these 12 year olds did... hollywood you have no excuse".

      and after your post, in some random executives meeting room in Hollywood:

      Lead executive: You hear that? We have no excuse! What am I paying you bastards for! Go out and find some famous property to remake shot for shot on a low budget! And get a couple kids to do it!

      Lesser executive: Sir, market research shows that low budget movies don't sell as high as high budget movies.

      Lead: You're right... give the budget a few million bucks... oh, and get Gus Van Sant to direct.

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  32. So... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    How long before we get a telesync on alt.binaries.vcd?

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  33. Watching the bandwidth die in real time... by Markos · · Score: 1

    is quite amusing.

  34. Laws are for those who pay for them... by jmagar.com · · Score: 1

    I don't know where you came up with the idea that laws are for the populace. It is plain to see that laws are there to protect those organizations who sponsor them. The government must protect the church of the un-holy dollar; where righteousness is measured by profit. If there's is NO PROFIT in letting you copy a work, and there's IS PROFIT in restricting your "right" to copy, which do you think is "Righteous" in the law?

  35. Re:I hope someone posts it on Kazaa by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative
    I would hate to see those kids make any money off of this.

    They can't, since it's a scene for scene remake it falls under the heading of 'derived work' and requires permission of the copyright holder (LucasFilm, I presume) to distribute.

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  36. Music by cow_licker · · Score: 5, Informative

    If anyone cares the song that plays during the trailer is Four Ton Mantis by Amon Tobin. An excellent song.

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    1. Re:Music by greentoad · · Score: 2, Informative

      aha.. that's who it was... it was ringing many bells and I was about to go searching through my collection.

      It's from the album Supermodified (Amon Tobin) - an absolutely brilliant and a hardly known piece of work.

    2. Re:Music by wct · · Score: 1

      Hardly known? Supermodified was (shortly after the time of release) Ninja Tune's bestselling album. Ninja Tune is one of the more "fashionable" electronic labels, with many people buying albums on the strength of their brand as opposed to the quality of the artist.

      (Of course, they do release a lot of excellent stuff which is how they got their rep in the first place)

  37. In other news, three teenagers were arrested... by Qzukk · · Score: 4, Funny

    for violations of Der Kopiright Akt. Herr Ashkroft announced that these economic terrorists will be stripped of their citizenship and summarially tortured for days without sleep until they confess to their vile plans of toppling the government-approved media.

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    1. Re:In other news, three teenagers were arrested... by MoZ-RedShirt · · Score: 1

      I suppose you meant the media-approved government ?!

      RedShirt

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    2. Re:In other news, three teenagers were arrested... by Qzukk · · Score: 1

      No, no, don't you realize why the regulations on consolidation are being dropped? Its much easier for the government to take over a few companies than many little ones.

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  38. Anyone have it? by Beowulfto · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I live in middle of nowhere and will never get to see a screening, so if anyone has a copy, please get a torrent version out there for me.

    Some friends of mine did a similar project. It wasn't a shot for shot re-make, but an original story called Indiana Jed. Was a lot of fun for high-school students to make, and sure beats the heck out of playing computer games for hours on end. Take a look at Indiana Jed

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    1. Re:Anyone have it? by robby_slaughter · · Score: 1

      I saw the show in the Alamo Drafthouse last weekend, and it was fantastic. Afterwards my girlfriend and I spoke with the filmmakers to encourage a wider release and discuss the possibility getting a copy of the film.

      IANAL, but the filmmakers recognize there are obvious copyright issues with any sort of distrubution. The film uses the screenplay, music, likeness, and title of the original, so it's doubtful they could "sell it" without extensive negotation with Spielberg et al.

      That said, the guys who made this movie (who have all but forgotten about it until the recent resurrection) where flattered beyond belief that hundreds of people gave them a standing ovation. One of the filmmakers offered to make us a copy of the DVD if we sent him blanks & postage. I will ask them what can be done to help out folks like yourself who want to see this great work.

      Finally, I must say that this has been my favorite movie of the year! Kudos to the filmmakers.

  39. World premiere screening by sridev · · Score: 2, Informative
  40. Great! by sixdotoh · · Score: 1
    I think this is a great story. I mean, for a lot of people (including me) doing something like this was their childhood dream. And now to have all this publicity. Come on, when you were 12-14 or so, wouldn't you have loved to film your own (copied;) action movie?
    I know some kids about that age who are attemping their own version of the LOtR trilogy, complete with costumes and sets that they sew and make themselves.

    guess i just like having fun and its nice to see some kids come through with it.

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  41. Re:Awesome news! by Davak · · Score: 4, Funny

    We use to be boring...

    now we have all kinda stuff to do.

    And that's just a sampling of biloxi...

    Here's a sample of Tunica's boats! Of course, here is a whole web site dedicated to Mississippi's new found wealth.

    If you enjoy hiking, camping, fishing, Elvis, the blues, college sports, famous authors--then you might rather visit this site.

    Anyway, trying to get Mississippi a few props... and I have a few Karma points to burn.

    Davak

  42. Re:NAKED PROSTUS!!!!!! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1, Funny
    how do we know you're naked?

    Keeping in mind the majority of /. readers, I really really hope that they don't post proof.

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  43. Re:I hope someone posts it on Kazaa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure they can. They just need permission. And Speilberg could concievably give it, since he liked their version.

  44. Re:Awesome news! by sridev · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nothing personal against Mississippi (damn.. it takes forever to type M i s s i s s i p p i !).

    You should be proud that it inspired these guys to do something cool... :)

  45. Star Trek in 15 lines of code (APL code that was) by jerryasher · · Score: 1

    Yes, back in 1978, I too wrote my own version of Star Trek for an IBM 370 using APL.

    APL. (Perl for arrays.)

    Star Trek in 15 lines (and a lot of 0,0rho reshaping!)

  46. Re:others were supressed, nice to see this one liv by silentbozo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd think it wouldn't be Spielberg who'd make trouble - after all, he got his start as a punk kid making films at a very young age. If anything, he probably be supportive. It's the numerous monied interests who own various bits and pieces of "intellectual property" who would sue the pants off of anyone they thought might "reduce the value of the asset", despite the fact that many fan-derivived works serve to sustain interest in the original property, thus ENHANCING the value of the asset...

  47. Re:others were supressed, nice to see this one liv by gsfprez · · Score: 1, Funny

    this is amazing - everyone here needs to understand.. THESE BOYS ARE LIABLE FOR IP THEFT.

    Now, its fine, dandy, and wonderful that Spielberg is not being an asshole.

    What is wrong is that the ONLY reason that these guys are not behind bars already is that Spielberg appears to not be an asshole.

    "Asshole-ness" should not be the reason one is or is not legitimately liable for IP "theft"... even if they are never charged for it.... they should live in fear, because maybe, someday, Spielberg may change his tune, or one of his lawyers may make him change his tune (a la trademark infringement rules)

    and that is why i contribute to the EFF and gave to Eldred. Damnit, people. This nation is coming unglued, and you're glad that one dude is not a dick.

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  48. Re:Awesome news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I appreciate the comments as well.

    There are a lot of people FROM Miss'ppi. Most of us just move away. :)

    AC

  49. Re:This is an obsession by presearch · · Score: 1

    I've never understood it. Never. Neither did Mom.

  50. This looks amazing! by Mafiew · · Score: 1

    Wow I am totally impressed by the trailer. Does anyone know whether this thing will ever be screened in LA?

  51. I think this proves one of my beliefs by Knife_Edge · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That you can accomplish anything you want if you devote an average of fifteen minutes a day to it. That might take a while for bigger undertakings (do you suppose these guys averaged 15 minutes a day working on this for six years? I bet it might even be a little less than that). But fifteen minutes a day is such a small commitment that if you want to accomplish anything at all faster, just devote an hour a day to it over a period of time.

    The only trick is knowing what you consider worth making an extended effort for. That takes vision. All the implementation takes is dedication.

    1. Re:I think this proves one of my beliefs by TummyX · · Score: 1

      You're not married are you? :)

    2. Re:I think this proves one of my beliefs by Tony · · Score: 1

      Very good thought, but with only one catch: it often takes fifteen minutes just to get back into a project, let alone accomplish anything in that project.

      Research has shown that even a one-minute interruption during peak efficiency at work results in fifteen minutes of lost productivity, as it takes a while to get back into the groove.

      Hell it takes me fifteen minutes just to get comfortable.

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    3. Re:I think this proves one of my beliefs by An+El+Haqq · · Score: 1

      Yes, yes, and while you're spending fifteen minutes a day accomplishing your grand project of cleaning your bathroom, successful people will be putting in the 80 hours a week it takes to do something worthwhile.

      So, if your goal is to reorganize your record collection, you might be okay w/ 15 minutes a day. If you want to build an addition to your house, you might want to step it up a bit if you don't want a lot of problems. If you want to win the Nobel Prize and/or be a useful member of the human race, you should probably try for a hell of a lot more.

    4. Re:I think this proves one of my beliefs by Knife_Edge · · Score: 1

      Why do you ask? What will my answer prove? Or are you proposing to me? If so, this isn't quite as cool as when CmdrTaco did it, but I am still touched. Unfortunately, after reading some of your recent posts, I have decided against the proposition. While you appear to have the ability to be charming every now and then, you appear to mostly be a hardcore web development nerd. Not exactly the type of person I am looking for to make a long term commitment. Sorry.

    5. Re:I think this proves one of my beliefs by Knife_Edge · · Score: 1

      Do you think I only work on one project at a time? Moreover, the examples you give are not projects at all, they are just tasks that would take about fifteen minutes once. If my goal was to live a clean and organized life, and one day I cleaned my bathroom, the next my desk, the next my kitchen, etc, then the sum total would be a real accomplishment. But every day it does not take that much time.

      You sound to me like a person who cannot get started on projects, because you always frame things in giant self-defeating terms, making tasks look so huge that beginning work on such a thing takes immense effort. I see even the largest tasks in terms of smaller incremental pieces, that can be done immediately.

      I think I am a useful member of the human race (though I seldom think in such broad terms, since such an honor is too vague and commonplace to be really satisfying for me), but winning the Nobel Prize is not a realistic goal for me. I think a problem with American society at least is that people are workaholic, encouraged to push themselves to the absolute limits in search of career goals and nothing else. You did not mention what you spend 80 hours a week on, but I hope it is something that allows for your development as a person. There are many definitions of success.

  52. Gee... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How did we all manage for all those decades...

  53. How in the world did they get . . . by jrl87 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... the first kiss, get a girl to strip and put on Marion's dress while they filmed it in the mirror.

    They are in my opinion quite obviously geeks, not that that's bad, considering how they had to make it, but when your a geek it's hard to get a girl to do anything (personal experience).

  54. Re:others were supressed, nice to see this one liv by dirvish · · Score: 1

    Definetely. Even after getting the thumbs up from Spielberg these folks should be concerned. They could still be sued by those monied interests.

    A lot of people don't get that derivitive works contribute to the original work. Just look at open-source software if you want good examples of this effect. How else was an Indiana Jones movie going to make it onto the front page of Slashdot today? I can't think of too many that do not include a derivitive work.

  55. Was at the first premiere. by dafragsta · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It was insane. People wrapped around the Alamo two wide. The adaptation is very true to the film while still being very creative. I mean, how would you have done this stuff when you were twelve? I wish I had the ability to finish things I start like these guys. The Q&A's should've been filmed for the DVD special features. It was almost as entertaining listening to these guys describe how the risked life and limb and broke the law numerous times. Tbey basically played with guns, blew things up, got plaster molds stuck on their heads, (NOT dental plaster either) and lots of other stupid stuff kids do.

    Four words in closing. The fire is real.

  56. No spoilers please! by pzilla · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey! Don't spoil it, I've never seen Raiders of the Lost Ark.

    I'm still waiting the DVD release anytime now.

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  57. I'm inspired by vaylen · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think I will remake Andy Warhol's 8 hour epic "Empire" SHOT-FOR-SHOT!

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    1. Re:I'm inspired by flikx · · Score: 1

      I'll one-up that and do it in ASCIImation.

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  58. Re:Way off topic: Nazi Ninjas by YOU+LIKEWISE+FAIL+IT · · Score: 1
    The only thing that was found during the investigation was a farmhouse and in the farmhouse the entire family had been killed. Their necks had been broken.

    Perhaps somebody dropped a spoon.

    Ah, that page always cracks me up.

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  59. They should pull a Lucas by chia_monkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    They could make so much more money if they were to put up a web cam that shows them working on the film. Yeahh...that's the ticket. And every 12 hours shut it off and recycle old footage. Yeah. $20 a subscriber.

    I think I should get $5 just for suggesting it.

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  60. sure he is. by twitter · · Score: 0
    A real rebel, you are!

    He listens to Hong Kong Jedi.

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  61. Re:others were supressed, nice to see this one liv by Pres.+Ronald+Reagan · · Score: 1

    The "ludicrous law" that says he who created something gets to own it? Jesus, imagine that.

    You geeks are always comparing IP to real life objects. How about this: if I create, with my own hands, a piece of furniture, should that piece of furniture become public property after being in my possession for ten years? For five years? No time at all? After all, you seem to think that if I come up with a completely novel idea, that idea should become public property after a certain (usually low) number of years.

    If I am creative enough to create something that the public likes then my reward should be ownership of my work. Full stop.

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  62. Saw it by Zed2K · · Score: 1

    Saw it Sunday afternoon. Was a ton of fun. The QA session afterwards was really interesting.

  63. Parody/copyright shenannigans by silmarildur · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There are obviously many parodies and knockoffs that have been released as retail products, such as spaceballs, and a large majority of Weird Al Yankovicz's songs. Does anyone know about how copyright law applies to these situations? Does one have to first license the material, then make whatever they want, or do they have to license it and get a final product approved, or, can they just do whatever they want and pass it off as a parody? If the latter was true, it would be interesting to see some sort of Hong Kong Starr Worrs or something with the exact same movie, word for word, but with actors in goofy costumes. I dunno, im kinda losing focus here, but i would be interested to hear details about this if available. Later.

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    1. Re:Parody/copyright shenannigans by Psykechan · · Score: 1

      There is a difference between parody and a derivative work. Check out this article for a little more info.

    2. Re:Parody/copyright shenannigans by thebigmacd · · Score: 1

      I heard that Eminem had to grant Weird Al specific rights to parody his song in the new album. Eminem agreed to the song but not a music video. So I heard.

    3. Re:Parody/copyright shenannigans by Restil · · Score: 1

      No, he didn't HAVE to. Weird Al always gets permission to do parodies and when the artist refuses, he obliges by not going against the wishes of the artist. This way he maintains the respect of the artists that he parodies, and in the worst case scenario, in spite of the fact he'd probably win, he virtually guarantees that nobody will ever even attempt to sue him.

      However, in the rare circumstances where there's a misunderstanding, a la Coolio/Amish Paradise, he still has fair use law to fall back on.

      In the case of Eminem, he agreed to the song, but wanted to hear the song before granting permission for the video, and apparently denied that request at that time. If Weird Al wanted to, he could go ahead and release it anyway, but that wouldn't really be classy. He definitely gets to take the higher ground in this case.

      -Restil

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    4. Re:Parody/copyright shenannigans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While Wierd Al can parody the lyrics all he wants, he would definitely need permission to use any portion of the music from the song he's parodying. The Verve lost all earnings from their song Bittersweet Symphony to the Rolling Stones because they used a symphonic sampling from the Stones' song The Last Time.

  64. Re:This is an obsession by yack0 · · Score: 1

    Oh yes, she did. Only too well. Unfortunately she kept her illness from me until all I could do was mourn her.

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  65. $7.00? You Lucky Dog! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's pretty cheap. it's 10 bucks around here. And rising.

    "essentially"
    "necessarily"
    "amateur"

  66. AMON TOBIN by humuhumunukunukuapu' · · Score: 2, Interesting

    the background music to the trailer is Amon Tobin... They may be geeks, they may love this movie too much...but they at the least have GREAT taste in music... god i wish the rain would stop -me

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    1. Re:AMON TOBIN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know when I think of "music" I think of "loud". Construction sites are like symphonies to me too and a jackhammer brings a tear to my eye with it's beautiful cacophony.

    2. Re:AMON TOBIN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i love that new band "white noise" have you heard them? i swear they have this one song that's like a frequency spectrum that is continuous and uniform over a specified frequency band. TEHY r0xh0rz my wurld!!1

  67. Re:What an amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Excuse me sir but you're an idiot. Such creativity is not a waste of time. Think of it as problem solving. It isn't the fact that you solve a problem that's already been solved that's important. It's how you go about doing it. We call it learning. If everything someone did had to be 'original' then 99.99% of the worlds population would never achieve anything.

  68. Slashdot having illegal advertising? by spoco2 · · Score: 2, Informative

    While reading this story I got an ad:

    "Star Wars Trilogy DVD $31.99 Only. Ready for delivery One shipping rate for any quantity"

    which linked through to http://www.dvdoriginal.com/product/viewprod.asp?pi d=1235
    Which have such wonderful nuggest such as:
    "Due to the fragility and bulkiness of standard DVD case, all of our DVD titles will come in a specially designed light-weight DVD sleeve pack. This shall hold and protect the disc better than the normal case." Riiiight...
    or
    "Q5: Does your DVD come with inserts or booklets that normally contained within the DVD case? A: No. Our DVD consists of Disc and Cover Art only. There are no inserts of booklets. " Uuuh huh.

    Erm... slightly illegal copies of the Star Wars movies... how is it legal for Slashdot (by way of OSDN) to promote such illegal products on the website?

    1. Re:Slashdot having illegal advertising? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Slashdot appears to be using Google syndication now for text ads. Google's ads are self-service, but they will pull reported violators. So, complaining to Google might be the best course of action.

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    2. Re:Slashdot having illegal advertising? by spoco2 · · Score: 1

      Thanks for that, I didn't know that at all... I did indeed complain... because I'm bitter and twisted. :)

    3. Re:Slashdot having illegal advertising? by blincoln · · Score: 1

      As far as I can tell, every DVD they offer is a bootleg. Witness the awesome power of the DMCA to do absolutely nothing useful.

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  69. another trailer mirror by yack0 · · Score: 2, Informative
    http://www.talker.com/john/mov/raiders.mov

    click

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  70. Re:others were supressed, nice to see this one liv by hoggoth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > How about this: if I create, with my own hands, a piece of furniture

    The very next day I could legally create, with my own hands, a nearly identical replica of that piece of furniture. Thank you for the excellent example.

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  71. Use it as a tool by coldmist · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think more than anything else, people are cheering it on because of the ingenuity displayed by these amatuers in writing this OS. Low budget software like that are far more impressive than stale Microsoft remakes precisely because they are low budget - people have to improvise. Surely you would not see the remake for the interface or anything new - it's a remake, you've seen it before. It's just something that makes me step back and marvel at what can be accomplished if you are dedicated enough.

    Cheers ;)

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    1. Re:Use it as a tool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well resaid!

    2. Re:Use it as a tool by DoraLives · · Score: 1

      Frickin' HILARIOUS! Apologies, no mod points at this time. Others, however, will mod you to minus five hundred - heretic.

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  72. My idea by bmantz65 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm currently in the pre-production stage of a shot by shot remake of Star Wars OT. It finally took six years and three second degree burns, but I made a functional light saber. Also, any female /.'rs who have a C-cup chest or bigger can audition for the roles of Leia and Oola ;)

    1. Re:My idea by ScottForbes · · Score: 1

      Just make sure that Han shoots first.

    2. Re:My idea by bmantz65 · · Score: 1

      No problem. I won't tape on breasts either.

  73. Hah! by JeanPaulBob · · Score: 1

    I think this proves one of my beliefs that you can accomplish anything you want if you devote an average of fifteen minutes a day to it.

    Not if you want to watch one new movie every day!

    Whatcha think of that, Mister-I'm-so-smart-because-my-beliefs-have-been-v alidated-man??

  74. Re:Awesome news! by bobgoatcheese · · Score: 1

    Could you help me get out then? I'm stuck in Picayune for the summer whilst waiting for fall to move back to Hattiesburg and start my second year at USM (yes computer science, shut up). This is really cool though, haven't seen many things like this. Plus I've been somewhere mentioned on Slashdot *starry eyed glaze*.

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  75. *spoiler* by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

    The entire cast has been digitally replaced by ewoks.

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  76. hmm by conform · · Score: 2, Funny

    can i suggest a remake of john cage's 4'33" instead?

  77. Wow... by AyeRoxor! · · Score: 1

    It really takes four days for links to get from Fark to here? That's actually pretty surprising...

    1. Re:Wow... by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it has something to do with fark's inability to seperate real news from outragious claims..

      Or perhaps it's their terrible use of the news flash. You know it's a sad day when one of the dozens of articles on fark are actually real and newsworthy, and then it's confirmed with slashdot picks it up.

      (note, all of the above taken from fark under the guise of 'information')

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    2. Re:Wow... by AyeRoxor! · · Score: 1

      Puh-leeze... All articles are clearly marked as to their source. WWN is blatant storytelling. And your outrageous claim story is an actual report from Japan. And the news flash is just that. It was news-flashed on CNN first, in big white letters on a red background. Is that a "terrible use" by CNN as well? Anybody who's confused by Fark is not mature enough to step into the world of adults.

    3. Re:Wow... by AyeRoxor! · · Score: 1

      But I must add that I agree about Migor. He will eat one's soul.

  78. Kids! Your path forward is clear! by xant · · Score: 1

    I want a shot-for-shot recreation of Matrix:Reloaded. Go, you 12-year-olds! By the time you're 18 this ought to be pretty easy.. the rendering should be possible in realtime what with the 16x increase in computing power we'll see between now and then.

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  79. RotLA? Whadabout good ol' Star Wars :) by madmarcel · · Score: 1

    About a month ago I was reading something or other about Star Wars on /. and it occurred to me that (given time) someone would no doubt create a remake of the dire Star Wars prequels...the difference being that of course you would NOT follow the original storyline.

    "StarWars I.alt" :o

    Anyone think they can do a better job than George?
    (Hmmm...forget about the prequels...make a SEQUEL! :P

    1. Re:RotLA? Whadabout good ol' Star Wars :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We already had The Phantom Edit, didn't we?

  80. My next big project... by Zathras11 · · Score: 1

    I am writing a word for word adaptation of
    The Bible. I think it will be a big hit!

    Seriously, why not come up with their own story
    and film that (ala that Star Trek Exeter thingy).
    While interesting, this seems like a (near)
    complete waste of time. M. Night Shyamalan keeps
    including the films he made as a teenager on the
    DVD releases of his movies. They are usually
    crap, but look where he is today (The Sixth
    Sense, Unbreakable and Signs). Oh well, everyone
    had to start somewhere! :^)

  81. Agin' Ragin' Cajun? by Flyph · · Score: 1

    I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that since they started this when they were 12.. they probably did most of the acting themselves right? So do we get to watch Indiana grow up in the movie too? the trailer shows a kid MUCH older that 12 =P

    1. Re:Agin' Ragin' Cajun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RTFA.

  82. Fanfilms could be the way of the future... by Peterus7 · · Score: 1
    That, or fanmade flash films.

    In any scenario, I think the internet and new imaging tech, etc, plus the general lack of lives, need for nostalgia, and the stupidity of the tv/moviemaker corporations has led more and more fans to start making their own remakes. Take Star Trek Exeter, for example...

  83. Look where is now... by Backov · · Score: 1

    1 for 3 by my count.

    Signs and Unbreakable were awful. Especially Signs. I didn't think you could get Mel Gibson to act in B movies any more, but he did it.

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  84. Did the same with ADVENT, got hooked into caving by LouisvilleDebugger · · Score: 1

    I did the same thing at the age of 11 or 12 with a badly made photocopy of a printout of the fortran source and data files for ADVENT (my Dad may have photocopied it for me at work out of Dr. Dobbs or something like that). My version was never complete, but ran on Honeywell mainframe compiled BASIC.

    The thing is, I've since become a caver: I've been in the REAL Bedquilt/Colossal Cave in the Mammoth Cave system. I have always credited that game for recruiting me into caving, and I never even played it: just tried to port a source printout. (Now Zork is another story.)

  85. Re:Awesome news! by WickedClean · · Score: 1

    You forgot to mention the Grand Casinos!! Are you from the coast? I'm in gulfport and this is the first I've heard about those kids doing a remake of Raiders. WLOX hasn't even mentioned them.

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  86. Re:Did the same with ADVENT, got hooked into cavin by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 1

    I've been in the REAL Bedquilt/Colossal Cave in the Mammoth Cave system

    So, did you find the diamonds? How did you get out of the maze of twisty little passages all alike? Where was the vending machine?

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  87. Remember the Alamo! by skinfitz · · Score: 1

    Is what they will be saying after the cinema gets /.'ed in REAL LIFE!! May god have mercy on their soul!

    The movie looks absolutely amazing! Can't wait to see it.

    Hopefully the media attention will pull out of the woodwork all the other fan movies that have sat forgotten.

  88. I need your help by Wee · · Score: 0
    Research has shown that even a one-minute interruption during peak efficiency at work results in fifteen minutes of lost productivity, as it takes a while to get back into the groove. Hell it takes me fifteen minutes just to get comfortable.

    I need your help. We need to start a coalition to keep people undisturbed. It's evil to bother a person when they are trying to put together a group of thoughts. It's certainly not fair. It should be stopped.

    I find myself working from home (or needing to) more and more, if only to gain a sense of mental continuity so I can get more than an hour's work done in one stretch. More often than not, I head on up to my office when I get home from "work" so that I can actually get something accomplished "at work". It's affecting my psyche, and I need like a Congressional order for some sort of blue ribbon task force needed to stop this from ruining my entire life. Either that or I need to have my sense of duty mitigated somehow. Ideas? (I don't take drugs, so the obvious is out of the way...)

    Craft me a clever sign for my office door: "The door is closed for a reason: I'm trying to actually do work. Don't knock, don't leave voicemail. Send me email and let me get back to you." If they have to type it out then they'll be brief, right?

    Oh yeah: can this blue ribbon panel find a way to ban jabber forever? I thought "chat" was evil back when IRC started becoming all the rage for SLIP guys in the dorms. Online chat is worse than evil now. It's a guaranteed productivity stopper without parallel. I only have so many keystrokes in my RSI-laden forelimbs, so I have to maximize their earning potential and longevity, right?

    -B

    Enough of my ranting.

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  89. Re:I hope someone posts it on Kazaa by zakezuke · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ummmm

    George Lucus ISN'T Stephen Spielberg. Lucus is to Media what Sco is to linux. For those who can't remember, Lucusfilm sued Battlestar Galactica because of multi-points of similuarity between it and Star Wars.

    But even George Lucus has a sence of humor, according to this site [http://www.nitcentral.com/askchief/ac980522.htm]
    "I remember the guy who made a Star Wars parody, Hardware Wars, got a letter from Lucas' lawyers warning him about copyright infringement, and he sent them a letter saying, "your boss liked it", and he included a copy of a letter from George Lucas saying how much he liked the parody. He never heard from the lawyers again."

    So, strictly speaking if the director of the orgin work likes it, it really helps.
    [why sue Galactica and not hardware wars, this is beyond me, oh perhaps because lucus wanted the money, and new hardware wars made no money]

    While you are correct, the artical seemed to emply that Mr. Spielberg liked the derived work planed to see it on opening night.

    However, I don't know other copyright holders that may have an interest in this work.

    According to [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/079 2157648/qid=1054714539/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_2/102-48059 13-1769756?v=glance&s=video&n=507846#product-detai ls]

    Raiders of the Lost Arc is chapter 24 in the complete adventures of Indiana Jones. So there might be an author that still holds a copyright somewhere, but who knows.

    I would suspect that that Spielberg would be willing to atleast co-operate with the kids if they decided to release this either on P2P systems, TV, or video, at least give them a whos who to contact.

    I am not a Raders of the Lost Arc geek... perhaps someone who knows more about the specifics can shed some light on the details.

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  90. Re:others were supressed, nice to see this one liv by mav[LAG] · · Score: 1

    after all, he got his start as a punk kid making films at a very young age

    If you have the special edition of Saving Private Ryan on DVD, there's a fascinating documentary on Spielberg's early film-making career: making war films with his childhood friends using such techniques as splicing in freely-available WWII gun camera footage into tilted camera scenes of his friends sitting in cockpits. It's low-budget, improvised genius stuff. I don't think he could have had any other reaction than nostalgia when he saw what these guys had done with Raiders.

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  91. "It Happened Here" released in 1963 16mm B/W by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For an awesome example of an original work by amateurs with a shoestring budget search for "It Happened Here" , released in 1963 depicting a successful German invasion of England in 1940 and the occupation aftermath. Made by Kevin Bronwlow and Andrew Mollo (brother of John Mollo - costume designer on Star Wars) starting in 1956 on 16mm it took 8 years to finish. Although the cast were not professionals and the equipment and costumes were scrounged/made/borrowed/bought at flea-markets, the film has a chillingly convincing look. The most famous still , used to to promote at the time of release, was a German Army band marching across London Bridge with the House of Parliament in the background. The film makes the point that collaborators and Quislings would not have been exclusive to the Continent if the Battle of Britain had not wounded the Luftwaffe.

    1. Re:"It Happened Here" released in 1963 16mm B/W by jonerik · · Score: 1

      I've only seen it once, but "It Happened Here" is pretty awesome indeed. Its guerilla filmmaking style only adds to its documentary feel. Two another Star Wars connections:

      a) Sebastian Shaw, who plays Dr. Fletcher in "It Happened Here," also plays Anakin Skywalker at the end of "Return of the Jedi."

      b) Cameraman Peter Suschitzky later worked on "The Empire Strikes Back."

  92. Re:I hope someone posts it on Kazaa by the+argonaut · · Score: 1

    while lucas isn't spielberg (although it's easy to see how some might get them confused, being two once great directors who can't seem to put out a decent movie anymore), spielberg does not necessarily (and most likely does not) own the copyright to the movie. lucas produced the movies and i do believe the copyright is owned by lucasfilm, which means that in the legal sense what spielberg thinks doesn't mean squat.

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  93. Re:I hope someone posts it on Kazaa by Scudsucker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    once great directors who can't seem to put out a decent movie

    Herm? Did you miss SPR and Minority Report?

  94. Great, now I have a headache by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did anyone else find the Ain't It Cool News site annoying with all those fucking exclaimation marks and capital letters - holeee-shit, calm the fuck down people - the news shouldn't need typographical embellishment to make it more exciting.

  95. But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I live in England, it always rains.

    1. Re:But by usotsuki · · Score: 1

      "Sitting in an English garden waiting for the sun
      If the sun don't come you get a tan by standing in the English rain
      I am the eggman
      They are the eggmen
      I am the walrus, goo goo kajoob"

      -uso.

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  96. Immitation really is the greatest form of flattery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Immitation really is the greatest form of flattery.

    Litigation is the most sincere form of thanks.

  97. Free Hat! by KronicD · · Score: 1

    Didn't this happen on Southpark S6E09 - Free Hat ? :)

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  98. Biloxi, MS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Last time I was there, all-you-can-eat shrimp was $1.00 (peel 'em yourself)

  99. Trailer Music by fuctape · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    In case anyone cares, it's "Four Ton Mantis" by Amon Tobin from the album Supermodified.

  100. Re:I hope someone posts it on Kazaa by the+argonaut · · Score: 1

    did you see catch me if you can, AI or the lost world?

    and yes i have seen SPR and minority report. didn't care for SPR (cheesy story among other things. great opening battle scene though), and i forgot that he directed minority report...enjoyed that one despite a general dislike for tom cruise.

    while i will admit that he is doing much better these days than lucas (although i also think that he has always been a better director than lucas), the overall quality has been diminishing. IMHO.

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  101. the way I see it.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They deffinatly without a doubt should be on set for the new film.

  102. whoops, wrong movie by gosand · · Score: 1
    "Laugh it up, fur ball"

    Whoops, right guy, wrong movie.

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  103. Re:Ingenious? - Now comes GEORGE LUCAS! by blakespot · · Score: 1
    Well, perhaps Lucas will bust onto the scene and spruce up this remake with a remake of their remake, but instead the children will be replaced entirely with CG characters and he will add random lameness throughout, revealing to the world that his blood is saturated with high counts of a new bioentity called "Suckichlorians."


    blakespot

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  104. Site Still Up by bookemdano63 · · Score: 1

    How is it all these tech/internet/geek companies go down the first 5 minutes after a /. post but these guys are still serving up movies at 63Kb/s?
    I don't want to hear any complaints about the /. effect.

  105. Re:Awesome news! by demonlapin · · Score: 1
    You forgot to mention the Grand Casinos!!

    That would be because they suck.

    Give me Beau Rivage, any day. I'm in Jackson, and no way in hell would I drive three hours to hang out at a casino right next to the port.

  106. Re:I hope someone posts it on Kazaa by usotsuki · · Score: 1

    Indiana Jones was a joint Lucas/Spielberg production.

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  107. Re:others were supressed, nice to see this one liv by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You must be pretty stupid not to recognize a misspelled word. Oh wait, you were probably trying to be funny. Ha. Ha ha.

  108. Re:others were supressed, nice to see this one liv by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Full stop.

    Hammer time.

  109. Re:I hope someone posts it on Kazaa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, hello thailor!

  110. North Dakota Jones by huckamania · · Score: 1

    We did the same thing one summer but didn't go for a shot by shot remake. ND was the kid who had the camera and we had an overweight asian kid run around saying "ND, ND, they stole the ankh stone". He was taller than ND and we knew it was schlock. We also did a spoof of Star Wars but pre-internet had no hope for distribution.

  111. Re:I hope someone posts it on Kazaa by Scudsucker · · Score: 1

    cheesy story among other things

    What, you didn't know that his movies tend to be overly sentimental? :)

    did you see catch me if you can, AI or the lost world?

    Nope, nope and nope so I can't comment on those. Critics thought he did a good job getting a performance out of DeCrappio and that Christopher Walken had a chance for best supporting actor.

    I'd still sell my grandmother to see him direct the next Star Wars movie.

  112. Re:I hope someone posts it on Kazaa by Blondie-Wan · · Score: 1
    According to [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/079 2157648/qid=1054714539/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_2/102-48059 13-1769756?v=glance&s=video&n=507846#product-detai ls] Raiders of the Lost Arc is chapter 24 in the complete adventures of Indiana Jones. So there might be an author that still holds a copyright somewhere, but who knows. I would suspect that that Spielberg would be willing to atleast co-operate with the kids if they decided to release this either on P2P systems, TV, or video, at least give them a whos who to contact. I am not a Raders of the Lost Arc geek... perhaps someone who knows more about the specifics can shed some light on the details.

    Ok, here you go... :) Indiana Jones was first envisioned by George Lucas, but jointly fleshed out by him and Steven Spielberg (along with co-storywriter Philip Kaufman and scriptwriter Lawrence Kasdan) when they made the original Indy adventure, Raiders of the Lost Ark, which was released in 1981; Lucas had gotten the ball rolling (so to speak ;), but he, Spielberg, and Kaufman all made significant, apparently near-equal contributions to the story of that particular film and the character of Indiana Jones in general. Lucas's company, Lucasfilm Ltd., owns the character since Lucas created him; Lucas and Spielberg went on to make two additional movies. Lucas is credited with writing or co-writing the story for each film, as well as being executive producer; Spielberg of course directs; and there are a few other "core" people involved with all the Indy movies, notably producer / executive producer Frank Marshall, associate producer / producer Robert Watts, stunt performer / coordinator Vic Armstrong, sound designer Ben Burtt, composer John Williams, and of course actor Harrison Ford, among others. However, each film has a different writing team, with Lucas the only writer who worked on each one.

    In the early '90s Lucas created a TV series, The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, which premiered in 1992; the show had a deliberately different tone from the films but was meant to fill out the background of the character and develop him into a more realistic person, with the films dovetailing into what would eventually become a fleshed-out biography for the character. Spielberg was apparently not involved with the show personally, although Lucas and Lucasfilm made the show "in association with" Spielberg's company, Amblin Entertainment. Aside from Indy creator / executive producer George Lucas, a surprising number of other people involved with the movies made contributions to the TV series, including Armstrong, Burtt, and even Harrison Ford, who appeared for a few minutes in framing segments of one two-hour episode as a 50-year-old Indy, reminiscing about an earlier adventure and thus telling the story of the episode as a big flashback (most of the episodes were originally presented in a similar fashion, albeit usually by an aged, 90+something-year-old Indy in contemporary times, played by George Hall).

    In late 1999 Paramount reissued the movies on VHS, along with the first domestic home video release of some of the Young Indy TV episodes (there had been a previous release of a few episodes as a laserdisc boxed set that was available only in Japan). For the new '99 release they organized all the Indy material into a timeline and designated the episodes and movies to be "chapters" in the Indy mythos; various adventures from The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles comprise chapters 1 to 22, and the three movies are chapters 23, 24 and 25. Although the 1981 Raiders is the original movie, the second one, 1984's Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, is actually set a year earlier (Temple takes place in 1935, Raiders in '36 - Temple of Doom was Lucasfilm's very first prequel :), so Temple of Doom is chapter 23 and Raiders is chapter 24.

  113. Re:others were supressed, nice to see this one liv by Luyseyal · · Score: 1
    after all, he got his start as a punk kid making films at a very young age

    a punk Eagle Scout. now that's an amusing image!

    -l

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  114. As tools get better by phorm · · Score: 1

    Hopefully we'll see more of this type of creativity. Even more hopefully, it won't be stifled by patents, etc.

    But seriously, thinking back to what it cost for decent A/V equipment back "in the day", and how much one can do with a decent video camera, and video-editing software+encoder is amazing.

    Open-source must progress. Kazaa must stay alive. As long as a mass-transition media, a mass-communication/support media, and free/cheap tools are around that keep improving - somebody is bound to come up with something pretty nifty.

    Substitute lots of money with lots of talent, and MPAA doesn't have a chance.

  115. Re:Did the same with ADVENT, got hooked into cavin by mfrank · · Score: 1

    plugh

  116. Re:talk about dedicated fans -I wrote a couple to by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1
    in the mainframe and paper tape days, I wrote my own version of the ever popular Star Trek game

    I wrote a couple of those too. For a good while, my STARTREK VERSION 4 was the most popular game on the California State University state-wide timesharing system. And nobody sued me either.

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  117. False advertising!!! by Wraithlyn · · Score: 1

    Dammit... here I DL this video, expecting "to watch an AMD K6/2 400mhz go up in flames" as promised, but all I got was this crappy Indy ripoff.. what a gyp. ;P

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  118. please! by Wil63 · · Score: 1

    what is the point? I admire their effort, but trying to copy each shot....it's like cover bands who do exact note-for-note renditions of their favourite heros. Admirable, but what exactly was their goal?

  119. Re:I hope someone posts it on Kazaa by the+argonaut · · Score: 1

    "I'd still sell my grandmother to see him direct the next Star Wars movie."

    i see this more as an indictment of lucas, then an endorsement of spielberg. but i would still second it. my original comment was more to highlight that both men are past their prime. IMHO, of course.

    but hell,if spielberg won't direct it, i would sell my grandmother to have your grandmother direct the next star wars movie...

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  120. Re:I hope someone posts it on Kazaa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    did you see catch me if you can, AI or the lost world?

    Yes, and what's more I know how to use the shift key on my keyboard, ya yutz.

    "The Lost World" was fun, albeit not perfect. "Catch Me If You Can" was an exceptional movie, although also not perfect.

    "AI" was one of the best science fiction movies of all time. I assume that you didn't like it because you didn't understand it. This is true of most people who find fault with it.

  121. maybe it can work by alcharn · · Score: 1

    I don't know how well an adaptation will fly. I mean that movie is a classic. But if these kids are really blowing people away, the more power to them... give us the movie already.