I'll just interject my comments down here at the bottom where no one will notice because it's the 3rd thing from the top.
I know about all that money does. It bought my computer, it feeds the people who made my computer, it built the factory where it was built. It pays for the internet connection,etc etc.
I hate money.
Money seems to be this justification for doing things that we don't like to do. It turns somehting we don't like (work) into something we like (computer, dsl, food, etc).
I am so sick of seeing money being the motivation for so many things. Why do we need to be targetted with geo specific ads? Gee, don't I have the curiosity to reach beyond my borders and learn about another culture? DVD region encoding..why? Because the don't want to put multiple language tracks on the dvds? Most of the ones I have seen come with it.
I agree with the cut and apsted letter above from Feb 8, 1996. The internet is it's own country.
So I'm not going to post with the +1 becuse I am mostly incoherent here...there is something intangible that I am ahving a hard time expressing. Maybe it's that you should do what you like as long as it doesn't hurt others. Maybe it's that money is the root of all evil. i don't know.
I am just very tired of money getting in the way of cool things
As I read it, the scale at which this is working from is substantially over your average desktop machine. Why not just use a cluster of pc's/macs?
Yes, I am aware that network bottlenecks can be an issue with certain varieties of calculations. I work in a national lab. I administer clusters. But I don't think there is an export restriction on myrinet, or any other high performance network. Not to mention that most of the countries that this applies to don't have a lot of money to work with anyways, so perhaps desktops with fast/gigabit ethernet is more the order of the day.
Not only that, but there are other companies that make supercomputers. Hitachi comes to mind, and I think Fujitsu as well.
Perhaps what they should rather do is not require DOE facilities to buy American unless it truly is the better product.
I saw a poster (I think somewhere after 1995) with that 30-ish % figure for the US. It was a poster of the world with every country labelled with a percent.
The US was the lowest as I remmeber. Most coutries cracked 50% and a large chunk cracked 80%. I remmeber russia and china and a few other counttries were up into the 98% range.
Then I look at microsoft. I look at it's gross product. I see that it's gross product, if it were a nation, would be the 5th largest in the world.
I absolutely feel no pity for them. Granted, I do not pirate software anymore, but I used to, when I was a college student and was making no money at all. I buy it now, or do without. Most of the software I buy is games.
So, I hear these arguments from the BSA saying that piracy increases software costs. I think that it's a lie. Simple economics says that they will charge what the market will bear. The market bears this price, and they will not decrease the cost just because all the software in russia suddenly becomes legit. They will charge us the same, because we'll take it. They may charge less for the russian one, because it's a different market.
I'm sorry if this viewpoint bothers professional programmers. I really am, but I really doubt you'll be getting more money when all the russian MS Office goes legit either.
I have also been extremely happy with Dark Age of Camelot. It seems to be working very well. On top of that, they've had a few years to learn from the mistakes of Ultima Online, as well as Everquest and remove/change those elements which sucked. FOr instance, the notion of camping for particularly rare items in DAoC is almost unheard of. There are very few place holder mobs. You can get a set of armour before 8th level very easily. The spawn rates are about 10x as fast.
Basically, it's EQ, but faster, less camping, and more thematic as a whole. I played quite a bit of EQ and DAoC has it beat hands down in just about every way I can think of.
I think that Jonathon Frakes is actually a pretty solid director, as is LeVar Burton. I look back on my favorite episodes and those guys did most of them...
that along with not being a big busted half clad action chic. My wife plays a lot of diablo 2 and diablo. I think she could get into EQ or Dark Age of Camelot. She doesn't really like RTS or FPS. Ironically, she really likes street fighter and tekken.
I have yet to see a real trend though. I know one girl who loves tomb raider (decidedly big busted action chic). It might be totally random.
I introduced my wife to diablo and I didn't think she was going to like it. one day I went for a nap and woke up to her swearing because she had gotten to the butcher for the first time. Remember that? Anyhow, I think there is something that says it must be unacceptable or something because I think she felt she needed to hide it a little bit. Now she's the one who encourages weekends of sitting at home and playing long long sessions of gaming and not going out til sunday afternoon for groceries and screaming in pain as the sunlight hits your eyes for the firs ttime in 2 days:)
OpenLinux WS has been out for a long time (many months). Most people wouldn't have realized that because Slashdot never posted a story to recognize that fact. This is why the packages seem a bit dated by now. Next time, before you flame a distro, check the Updates Directory [caldera.com] which will show you a version of OpenSSH at 2.9.
Fair enough. I didn't check their updates directory, although I wouldn't have actually called my comment a flame. I must admit, my first experience with caldera was not so hot, and I may be a tad colored by it.
Also, if you want the latest and greatest KDE, have no fear. Plenty of core KDE developers are employed by Caldera, so right from the official KDE FTP sight, you can spend the day downloading 2.2.1.
perhaps I misread your tone here, but there are very valid reasons for using kde 2.2.1, including imap support in kmail and 2.1 not working with a piece of software that I use (nothing anyone here has heard of). And I'll applaud them employing kde developers.
On a side note, I find it interesting that the government (who I work for) doesn't employ more free software people. A coworker and I have thought of several ways where your tax dollars could have been better spent by hiring a free software writer to improve a particular piece of code over paying a license fee for a commercial piece.
2.4.2 was the latest kernel available at the time of release, and since there have been no gaping security holes and that kernel has proven fairly stable, there's no reason to mess with a good thing.
except for a tcp/ip bug that will impact my users
Do we really want one Linux company?
Nope, of course not. I really applaud Libranet for their model (you gotta buy it, but after that, you can do whatever), and OpenBSD (actually basing the no-copy thing on something that actually makes sense, sort of). I like redhat and mandrake. I never got into debian. I think Progeny and Libra certainly have the right idea, and I have heard many good things about them. I'm about to give a go to gentoo. I've used caldera and trinux. I have an esmith firewall.
Not that I believe the latest and greatest is always the best, but this one seems a little light on the newer features...Kernel 2.4.2 KDE 2.1, OpenSSH 2.5.2 (doesn't this one have a known flaw in it?).
See, the problem with Caldera's per seat licensing model is not so much that it is evil (ok, it's not, it's a business thing, but it just feels wrong) as much as it is that for it to really succeed they need to actually add value. I'm not sure they really do right now, since I can download redhat or mandrake with little worries.
This would all be different if _no_ linux company offered downloadable isos...
Btw, and only mostly off topic, anyone have any opinions on gentoo based on actual experience?
as many people have pointed out, there is something fishy here. But that aside...
Repeat after me, I will not enter Sony's territory. Good god, I think this would be a gigantic error for Microsoft. I can see it now
"In today's news, Computer giant IBM teamed up with Electronics industry leader Sony to produce a new product. When asked the purpose of the product, an industry spokesperson said, 'To crush Microsoft out of existance. They are a worm and we're tired of them being uppity." It is rumored that they newly formed Hewlett-Compaq is also a part of the delveopment of said product"
We know wep is insecure. There is little point in even putting anything on these nets. as a matter of fact I can find reasons not to. Let's say for example that you run a facility that has large numbers of people from outside coming in. WOuld it make sense to enforce 128 bit encryption? Sheesh, all the people with bronze (no encryption) and silver (40/64 bit encryption) can't use it.
As someone pointed out above, put it outside the firewall, requirte ssh/vpn to get inside a firewall. tell people it's an insecure net, and recommend personal firewalls (zone alarm. blackice, ipchains, etc).
The major benefit of wireless is access anywhere. Security directly conflicts with access. For example, managing MAC level security (restricting by MAC) is a pain in the keister. WEP is worthless. So assume all your traffic is insecure and use something to encrypt it. If you really need to prevent people from getting on and using your net, _don't use wireless_.
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One potential software part could be the use of rdesktop, found at www.rdesktop.org. It's an RDP4 client for linux and many other unices.
As for thin clients, I would certainly go towards the IBM route, mostly because IBM IMHO has shown itself to be linux friendly
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let's see how many figure that one out
cs was a traditional programing and math sort of cs (actually, this is not strictly true...we did a lot more application than your average program)
cis was pretty much cs, but sans the math. They replaced it with business courses
mis was a business degree with some cs thrown in. Probably more like a technical manager sort of program.
I'll just interject my comments down here at the bottom where no one will notice because it's the 3rd thing from the top.
I know about all that money does. It bought my computer, it feeds the people who made my computer, it built the factory where it was built. It pays for the internet connection,etc etc.
I hate money.
Money seems to be this justification for doing things that we don't like to do. It turns somehting we don't like (work) into something we like (computer, dsl, food, etc).
I am so sick of seeing money being the motivation for so many things. Why do we need to be targetted with geo specific ads? Gee, don't I have the curiosity to reach beyond my borders and learn about another culture? DVD region encoding..why? Because the don't want to put multiple language tracks on the dvds? Most of the ones I have seen come with it.
I agree with the cut and apsted letter above from Feb 8, 1996. The internet is it's own country.
So I'm not going to post with the +1 becuse I am mostly incoherent here...there is something intangible that I am ahving a hard time expressing. Maybe it's that you should do what you like as long as it doesn't hurt others. Maybe it's that money is the root of all evil. i don't know.
I am just very tired of money getting in the way of cool things
Actually, portland group makes some incredible fortran and c compilers fot intel architecture.
As I read it, the scale at which this is working from is substantially over your average desktop machine. Why not just use a cluster of pc's/macs?
Yes, I am aware that network bottlenecks can be an issue with certain varieties of calculations. I work in a national lab. I administer clusters. But I don't think there is an export restriction on myrinet, or any other high performance network. Not to mention that most of the countries that this applies to don't have a lot of money to work with anyways, so perhaps desktops with fast/gigabit ethernet is more the order of the day.
Not only that, but there are other companies that make supercomputers. Hitachi comes to mind, and I think Fujitsu as well.
Perhaps what they should rather do is not require DOE facilities to buy American unless it truly is the better product.
actually,a BBC rehash of an article that was up a month ago
7 23 7&mode=thread
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/11/15/051
I saw a poster (I think somewhere after 1995) with that 30-ish % figure for the US. It was a poster of the world with every country labelled with a percent.
The US was the lowest as I remmeber. Most coutries cracked 50% and a large chunk cracked 80%. I remmeber russia and china and a few other counttries were up into the 98% range.
Then I look at microsoft. I look at it's gross product. I see that it's gross product, if it were a nation, would be the 5th largest in the world.
I absolutely feel no pity for them. Granted, I do not pirate software anymore, but I used to, when I was a college student and was making no money at all. I buy it now, or do without. Most of the software I buy is games.
So, I hear these arguments from the BSA saying that piracy increases software costs. I think that it's a lie. Simple economics says that they will charge what the market will bear. The market bears this price, and they will not decrease the cost just because all the software in russia suddenly becomes legit. They will charge us the same, because we'll take it. They may charge less for the russian one, because it's a different market.
I'm sorry if this viewpoint bothers professional programmers. I really am, but I really doubt you'll be getting more money when all the russian MS Office goes legit either.
Not to mention Gandalf was another name for Odin, as well as Grey Wanderer IIRC.
so don't go see the movie
I have also been extremely happy with Dark Age of Camelot. It seems to be working very well. On top of that, they've had a few years to learn from the mistakes of Ultima Online, as well as Everquest and remove/change those elements which sucked. FOr instance, the notion of camping for particularly rare items in DAoC is almost unheard of. There are very few place holder mobs. You can get a set of armour before 8th level very easily. The spawn rates are about 10x as fast.
Basically, it's EQ, but faster, less camping, and more thematic as a whole. I played quite a bit of EQ and DAoC has it beat hands down in just about every way I can think of.
Ya, pretty much. My personal feeling is that I like the three pane view. I want pine with a 3 pane view! :)
actually, evolution has at least as much integration as pine with exchange.
:)
I use pine. I use evolution. I like them both
I think that Jonathon Frakes is actually a pretty solid director, as is LeVar Burton. I look back on my favorite episodes and those guys did most of them...
If they only have WEP, I won't spend a dime there. But I bet they are not dorks, they probably have everything done over a real encryption scheme
I turned 30 today as well...and I'm a unix admin...go figure
On a different platform, but still completely valid is the BriQ. PPC (low heat, low power consumption) in the space of a 5 1/4" drive bay.
that along with not being a big busted half clad action chic. My wife plays a lot of diablo 2 and diablo. I think she could get into EQ or Dark Age of Camelot. She doesn't really like RTS or FPS. Ironically, she really likes street fighter and tekken.
:)
I have yet to see a real trend though. I know one girl who loves tomb raider (decidedly big busted action chic). It might be totally random.
I introduced my wife to diablo and I didn't think she was going to like it. one day I went for a nap and woke up to her swearing because she had gotten to the butcher for the first time. Remember that? Anyhow, I think there is something that says it must be unacceptable or something because I think she felt she needed to hide it a little bit. Now she's the one who encourages weekends of sitting at home and playing long long sessions of gaming and not going out til sunday afternoon for groceries and screaming in pain as the sunlight hits your eyes for the firs ttime in 2 days
ok, flame me for not previewing. I normally post plain text and don't need to
OpenLinux WS has been out for a long time (many months). Most people wouldn't have realized that because Slashdot never posted a story to recognize that fact. This is why the packages seem a bit dated by now. Next time, before you flame a distro, check the Updates Directory [caldera.com] which will show you a version of OpenSSH at 2.9. Fair enough. I didn't check their updates directory, although I wouldn't have actually called my comment a flame. I must admit, my first experience with caldera was not so hot, and I may be a tad colored by it. Also, if you want the latest and greatest KDE, have no fear. Plenty of core KDE developers are employed by Caldera, so right from the official KDE FTP sight, you can spend the day downloading 2.2.1. perhaps I misread your tone here, but there are very valid reasons for using kde 2.2.1, including imap support in kmail and 2.1 not working with a piece of software that I use (nothing anyone here has heard of). And I'll applaud them employing kde developers. On a side note, I find it interesting that the government (who I work for) doesn't employ more free software people. A coworker and I have thought of several ways where your tax dollars could have been better spent by hiring a free software writer to improve a particular piece of code over paying a license fee for a commercial piece. 2.4.2 was the latest kernel available at the time of release, and since there have been no gaping security holes and that kernel has proven fairly stable, there's no reason to mess with a good thing. except for a tcp/ip bug that will impact my users Do we really want one Linux company? Nope, of course not. I really applaud Libranet for their model (you gotta buy it, but after that, you can do whatever), and OpenBSD (actually basing the no-copy thing on something that actually makes sense, sort of). I like redhat and mandrake. I never got into debian. I think Progeny and Libra certainly have the right idea, and I have heard many good things about them. I'm about to give a go to gentoo. I've used caldera and trinux. I have an esmith firewall.
Not that I believe the latest and greatest is always the best, but this one seems a little light on the newer features...Kernel 2.4.2 KDE 2.1, OpenSSH 2.5.2 (doesn't this one have a known flaw in it?).
See, the problem with Caldera's per seat licensing model is not so much that it is evil (ok, it's not, it's a business thing, but it just feels wrong) as much as it is that for it to really succeed they need to actually add value. I'm not sure they really do right now, since I can download redhat or mandrake with little worries.
This would all be different if _no_ linux company offered downloadable isos...
Btw, and only mostly off topic, anyone have any opinions on gentoo based on actual experience?
We are using the client on our linux machines. WOrks good. the server side is a bigger question
as many people have pointed out, there is something fishy here. But that aside...
Repeat after me, I will not enter Sony's territory. Good god, I think this would be a gigantic error for Microsoft. I can see it now
"In today's news, Computer giant IBM teamed up with Electronics industry leader Sony to produce a new product. When asked the purpose of the product, an industry spokesperson said, 'To crush Microsoft out of existance. They are a worm and we're tired of them being uppity." It is rumored that they newly formed Hewlett-Compaq is also a part of the delveopment of said product"
We know wep is insecure. There is little point in even putting anything on these nets. as a matter of fact I can find reasons not to. Let's say for example that you run a facility that has large numbers of people from outside coming in. WOuld it make sense to enforce 128 bit encryption? Sheesh, all the people with bronze (no encryption) and silver (40/64 bit encryption) can't use it.
As someone pointed out above, put it outside the firewall, requirte ssh/vpn to get inside a firewall. tell people it's an insecure net, and recommend personal firewalls (zone alarm. blackice, ipchains, etc).
The major benefit of wireless is access anywhere. Security directly conflicts with access. For example, managing MAC level security (restricting by MAC) is a pain in the keister. WEP is worthless. So assume all your traffic is insecure and use something to encrypt it. If you really need to prevent people from getting on and using your net, _don't use wireless_.
Is the distribution choice. I just plain do not like caldera :) I'd prefer something else (without being specific what).
I am also disappointed that I cannot buy lindvd yet, separate from the laptop.
And the winmodem...well, ok, fine, it works, but geeez. How much more is it per unit to just use a normal modem?