Someone already sort of asked this but they are modded at 0 and thus might not get heard that easily. I was wondering if anyone had a breakdown of just what P2P networking the RIAA is targetting. If you read the headlines all you would think is that this is between the RIAA and Kazaa. I remember when recently when we all joked about the actual kazaa names people were using and how many "kazaalite" users there would be.
So what's the deal? Any WinMX, EDonkey, Bittorrent users being attacked in this recent spat of 700 cases by the RIAA. Or is it just those Kazaa users?
"And who has a dual joystick setup to play Battlezone with? "
$15 for PSX to USB convertor and your all set.
Robotron, Smash TV etc play perfectly. In fact beyond building your own from real arcade controls the DualShock is the best Mame gaming control going IMO.
If you have more money you can easily buy something like the X-Arcade stick. http://www.x-arcade.com/pc.shtml
That or just build your own with some happ controls like many people have.
Very true. Without Google the Internet just wouldn't be of much value to me. Having one site to go to when I want to find out anything about anything is priceless.
I've said this before but I'd pay pretty much any amount to keep using Google if they went subscription. I hope they never do, but I'm simply not willing to go back to a pre-Google internet.
I don't think that's the answer. Linux just like Beos can use binary closed source drivers.
"This was always the case for BeOS - it could play files, access hardware, and in general do more than a free system could, because Be could sign NDAs and the Free development community could not."
That sounds a lot like revisionist history to me. Even compared to Linux at the time I wouldn't say beos could do more than a free OS could. In fact Beos was specifically notable in that it couldn't access certain files and severely lacked proprietary driver support(just as it does now).
When it comes to the things you mentioned as a whole the free software community although lacking compared to Windows has always been superior to Beos. If Beos had actually gotten better support for opening various files and working on more hardware, myself and many others would still actually be using it.
"Isn't it enough of a victory for the profession that they have used an academically based operating system rather than a commercial one?"
Umm, No. It isn't a victory at all. Anytime a corporation attempts to co-opt the hard work of others and not abide by the GPL which has gotten GNU/Linux where it is today, its a loss for us all.
"They could conceivably switch to Windows"
Fine with me. They can feel free to pay Microsoft royalties on every unit shipped as well.
I don't mean to sound mean, but you must be new to the opensource movement.
"In a nutshell, Slack delivers Linux as it should be. Whereas distros like Red Hat and Mandrake deliver an "experience" (which is certainly good for newcomers), Slack says "Here's lots of great Linux stuff, packaged up and guaranteed to work out the box. Now make yourself a cool system!"
There I would disagree strongly. The fact that you said "Slack delivers Linux as it should be" pretty much made me not want to read the rest of your comment. Where oh where is it written that the "Slackware way" is the official way?
Regarding where you try to compare and contrast Red Hat and Slackware by saying Slackare "here's lots of great linux stuff, packaged up and guaranteed to work out of the box", I'd credit Red Hat here more than Slackware.
Red Hat is the one packaging things up and and making a "more complete" linux distro. Last time I checked when it came to admin tools Slackware was severely lacking. They also unlike distros like Red Hat are apt just to throw a bunch of standard linux packages together as opposed to Red Hat who is known to customizes at the source level to add needed performance or security improvements.
To say the Slack just focuses on stability and simpilcity as opposed to Red Hat who actually spends a ton of time and money on stability testing is misleading to say the least. Lastly you mentioned "massively-patched package" as a bad thing. When Red Hat patches as I mentioned just above its for a reason, and usually a good one. Slackware's lack of patches and "little things which make using linux easier" is really just a reflection that they don't have the manpower or money to add needed improvements which make the a distro perform better.
I didn't reply to slam Slackware but to point out some common myths that some Slackware users continue to go on about. Different stokes for different folks, but Slackware sure as hell isn't better for the reasons and partial myths that your still trying to spread.
Well although they loved jamming in front of great fans, you can't say they choose that over "making a lot of money".
Financially the Grateful Dead was an extremely successful band. If someone can make as much money as them while literally giving their music away for free, how can anyone not question the current RIAA business model?
Or have them get annoyed at you when OO screws up and loses all the formatting of the word doc.
Sorry but even as a big OO booster, I'm the first to say that importing word docs is still a total crapshoot. Plain text letters etc come through fine most of the time. In fact most of the content comes through, but when it comes to even slightly complex word docs with images and lots of formatting OO chokes badly. Sure you end up with most of the text and images, but then you have to spend 5 minutes trying to move everything back to whre it should be the.doc import feature loses its charm.
I don't fault OO for this since sucky MS won't open their file specs though. Unfortunately MS knows that proprietary Office file formats are the key to its desktop monopoly, so don't expect that to change in our lifetime.
Honestly though I just don't think its right to outright lie to people and say OO can easily open all Word files. That's probably never going to happen. For me its not a problem since I never deal with a ton of word docs anymore, but for those who HAVE to both send and recieve word docs all day long I can't say they should see that as a plus for using OpenOffice.
Yea and what if she went on a shooting spree? What would they think then? I don't get your point.
Why are you tring to compare someone who is trying to do massive damage with someone who basically went 56 in a 55?
That's like saying yea the Pope is a good guy, but what if he went around kicking people in the balls. He doesn't and she didn't do what your proposing so your analogy makes zero sense. Why even ponder such a question?
If your interested in seeing what people say when young people commit truly horrible crimes feel free to do your own research. Regardless you can't be surprised that society treats a child who steals a pack of gum differently then one who shoots the store owner.
The article pretty much discounts that because he would have been in his 70's when doing it. Also in some places they have reappeared when overpaved since they're sightings in the 80's.
Plus they said this probably required heavy equipment. I can't see some guy in his 70's out in the middle of the night(Old people don't stay up late) lugging equipment around.
The clue which points to him certainly is the best starting place, but I'm guessing its some other wacko who heard what he said and decided to make his crazy theories his life work.
I just hope having this on/. doesn't start a copycat craze. I'd would be a shame someone else took credit or led the investigation in the wrong direction.
Should have bought a SMC router, many of them have print servers built into them. The new cheapie SMC's even have real SPI Firewalls in them doing more then just blocking all inbound packets. Sure it isn't a highend firewall, but they are really quite impressive for what your spending. I mean something that costs less than $50 and emails you if someone is trying to SYN scan or DOS you is pretty cool.
If my 7004BR wasn't so dam reliable(been running for years with barely any reboots) I'd replace it for another SMC just for the Firewall stuff.
I don't know enough to have an opinion but a few people on usenet have commented on this topic and were not too happy.(yea I know what a surprise people on usenet were complaining).
Mostly they were not happy because if there is a fire or such then much of video game history as we know it goes away forever. Alos there is the point that without letting dumpers access those boards, those games will simply rot and never be recoverable. So basically the collective opinion was "what a waste" since most people felt it should be donated to a museum or have parts or it loaned out so that the data on those boards and such could be preserved.
Like I said I don't know enough to say if they are right. Maybe they were wrong and this stuff is actually going to be correctly preserved.t I do agree that the utmost care should be taken so that 20 years of rare and valuable gaming history are not lost or forgotten.
"I'm so sick and tired of seeing this crap ass argument. There are less worms affecting Linux becaues NO ONE USES IT. I'm not saying that thats a bad thing.
Its not a crap arguement its true. In case your living under a rock or something there are a hell of a lot of servers out there running linux. So no your flat out wrong, people do use it. I recall one worm in the like the last 3 years that did anything. When it comes to MS servers how many more worms that take advantage of IIS and SQL do you need?
"But if Linux on the Desktop had 98% market saturation and Windows had 1%, it would have been linuxblaster and the MS fanboys would be laughing and saying "see, no msblaster worms".""
Yea and if a cow had dick it would be a bull. So what? You don't know that and your can' prove that.
Sorry people ragging on MS's shoddy security practices puts a bug up your butt. This is the way its going to be until MS gets its act together.
One last point
"no linux license fees
Thats because, with linux, they're ingeniously called support fee's. "
Err no with most linux distros there are NO license fees. With Windows you get to pay not only license fees but support fee's as well.
"This is a community of smart people, the race is on to figure out how to best solve this issue for our end users. Microsoft appears to be beating us by requiring far less updates to be applied than a randomly chosed Linux distro."
A) Linux and its associative apps are opensource so your going to find more security flaws due to the nature of opensource. This is a GOOD thing. B) The ratio of packages per "average" linux distro vs. say 2k server or 2k3 server is what? 15 to 1? So judging by that fact its surprising that Microsoft continues to have as many problems as they do. When comparing correctly there is no comparison, MS loses hands down.
"... but we should really be debating how we get this right on an OSS platform. If I put RedHat9 next to Windows Server 2003 I have significantly more updates to apply to my Linux box."
Any admin who actually knows how to use update and secure both linux and windows would say different. With Microsoft patches there is decent chance that the patch will not only not work and require a second patch, but also might hose your system. All those admins who get nailed by worms aren't just lazy. Many of them have been burned by MS patches and choose just not to use them.
Let's also not forget about huge mega patch service packs that you have to use which are somehow ignored in your "count". Forgot about those huh? How many patches do these monsters hold? Hundreds? At a minimum. And of course nobody's system EVER gets hosed by service packs....
How about those great new restrictive licensing terms which get forced down your throat just because you want to secure your box?
Lastly even though 2k3 is better about it, I'll also enjoy not having to reboot my system for a simple patch. Don't you think average downtime should be added into the equation?
I'll take Red Hat's or any other linux vendors patching system any day of the week thanks.
Blah Blah. Again with the stupid arguement that names matter...
From now on I'm just putting all of you down as enemies so that you will be forever modded to -6 and I won't have to read this pointless arguement about names anymore.
When you see a shiny colored button in the comments while your reading/. at least you'll now why.:-/
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" because the Open Source movement has never, EVER been about innovation"
Don't be such a stupid Troll. At some point everything is built upon something which came before it. Your examples are like looking at a Porsche and saying "Yep no innovation there", its just a copy of a Model T.
Just because you believe in freedom doesn't mean your supposed to sit still while someone takes a dump on your face.
"Make sure you have skills that are so valuable that you won't be outsourced. If you can't do that, then find another line of work, you lazy bastard"
Wow you totally don't have a clue huh? Are still in college or in your 20's or something?
"I was thinking about going into IT. "
How fortunate you haven't spent a decade in the field and then lost your job because someone is getting paid 1/4 your wage. What do you care right? Why should American companies take care of their own? Its not like there's any benefit to that. Nope none at all.
"Another memorable EULA quote: I'm forbidden to use Visual Studio tools to make any word processing or spreadsheet application, unless it's a small part of a larger application. Unlike Open Source, if a Microsoft-enchained programmer (like me) invents a better mousetrap, they're verboten to release it."
Does it really say you can't do that? That's insane. I don't see how that would be legally enforceable. If anyone needed any proof that MS should have been broken into little pieces, there you go.
That fact that any developer would buy any software which limits exactly what they could create with it is pretty surprising. Imagine if art stores used EULA's with their paint brushes?
I'd really like to see that particular EULA. Next time I hear some dev crowing about VS I'll have to ask them if there sure their products are in compliance. Pathetic.
" It's like saying you can be bought to defend principles that you don't even believe in. "
"In the case of the lawer profession, it's a direct corelation of how one's moral decisions can be directly bought"
Nobody's morals are being bought and your views pretty well off from reality.
"The cops can be blaimed for being sloppy."
Then blame the cops for not doing their job. Not the lawyer for pointing out that proper procedure wasn't followed. Thank God we don't let things like that slide. Its the only thing keeping the police and other people honest. If we were to starting convicting people based on compromised evidence and just "let things slide" when it comes to procedure the world would be a much worse place. Nobody liked seeing O.J. getting off, but at the same time I'm glad the cops can't use half-asses evidence to convict.
"But they make the morally wrong decision because it's their job. "
Umm no? What is morally wrong about defending someone? We don't live in a world where everything is so black and white.
It's not "morally wrong" to defend someone no matter what the charge. Our country is founded on that premise. Sometimes the people are ugly, but you either support rights for everyone or not at all. I'll always pick the former. Also just because a lawyer gets a client who committed a crime a tells the lawyer he did it, doesn't mean representing that client compromises the lawyer's morals. Our legal system is setup specifically so that everyone is presumed inoccent and until proven guilty. You simply can't look at the role lawyers are put into when defending someone and say they are being "bought". That arguement shows a fundemental lack of understanding of how our legal system works. They are simply acting out thier role in a framework which forces them to defend the client to the best of their ability. It also ignores the fact that most lawyers are very ethical people. Sure you get people like Johnney C. who makes all lawyers look bad, but pick any field and there are bad apples in the bunch.
"From a high level view of the lawer profession..."
That actully really does show. I'm sure your a decent person and my intent was not to be nasty, but the legal profession simply isn't like the stereo-typical view your espousing. That probably won't help the next time you see a lawyer defeding someone you don't like but like I said its not so black and white.
"If that's not acceptable, then how about giving other browsers some press time too? Opera's a great example. "
Err, no thanks. Perhaps your confusing this site for someplace that puts commercial closed sources products ahead of our own community ones? Gee should Slashdot report on a browser that is being made for the common good and is used by every linux distro or some commercial browser that could go out of business anyday leaving us with nothing?
"C'mon guys, the pro-Mozilla zealousy is nauseating."
AFAIK you don't end up with a million and one useless daemons starting a la RedHat or Mandrake (yes, they are bad for this.)
Reality
They don't make that much a difference and there aren't that many of them. Of the ones there are you can disable whatever you want simply from the commandline or from a nice gui. What makes distros "slow" is when you try to run Gnome or KDE on a older machine. These daemons only take a few megs and most of the time simply idle.
Red Hat running Blackbox or XFCE is a fast as Gentoo running Blackbox or XFCE. Carve that into your chest with a knife and then show every Gentoo you can find. We need to get the word out...
"Unfortunately, the same guys that do the development had to do the rebranding," said Prewitt. "We're all wearing different hats. We ended up ceasing development on it for about a week," he said."
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Someone already sort of asked this but they are modded at 0 and thus might not get heard that easily. I was wondering if anyone had a breakdown of just what P2P networking the RIAA is targetting. If you read the headlines all you would think is that this is between the RIAA and Kazaa. I remember when recently when we all joked about the actual kazaa names people were using and how many "kazaalite" users there would be.
So what's the deal? Any WinMX, EDonkey, Bittorrent users being attacked in this recent spat of 700 cases by the RIAA. Or is it just those Kazaa users?
"And who has a dual joystick setup to play Battlezone with? "
$15 for PSX to USB convertor and your all set.
Robotron, Smash TV etc play perfectly. In fact beyond building your own from real arcade controls the DualShock is the best Mame gaming control going IMO.
If you have more money you can easily buy something like the X-Arcade stick.
http://www.x-arcade.com/pc.shtml
That or just build your own with some happ controls like many people have.
Very true. Without Google the Internet just wouldn't be of much value to me. Having one site to go to when I want to find out anything about anything is priceless.
I've said this before but I'd pay pretty much any amount to keep using Google if they went subscription. I hope they never do, but I'm simply not willing to go back to a pre-Google internet.
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stupid filter.
I don't think that's the answer. Linux just like Beos can use binary closed source drivers.
"This was always the case for BeOS - it could play files, access hardware, and in general do more than a free system could, because Be could sign NDAs and the Free development community could not."
That sounds a lot like revisionist history to me. Even compared to Linux at the time I wouldn't say beos could do more than a free OS could. In fact Beos was specifically notable in that it couldn't access certain files and severely lacked proprietary driver support(just as it does now).
When it comes to the things you mentioned as a whole the free software community although lacking compared to Windows has always been superior to Beos. If Beos had actually gotten better support for opening various files and working on more hardware, myself and many others would still actually be using it.
"Isn't it enough of a victory for the profession that they have used an academically based operating system rather than a commercial one?"
Umm, No. It isn't a victory at all. Anytime a corporation attempts to co-opt the hard work of others and not abide by the GPL which has gotten GNU/Linux where it is today, its a loss for us all.
"They could conceivably switch to Windows"
Fine with me. They can feel free to pay Microsoft royalties on every unit shipped as well.
I don't mean to sound mean, but you must be new to the opensource movement.
"In a nutshell, Slack delivers Linux as it should be. Whereas distros like Red Hat and Mandrake deliver an "experience" (which is certainly good for newcomers), Slack says "Here's lots of great Linux stuff, packaged up and guaranteed to work out the box. Now make yourself a cool system!"
There I would disagree strongly. The fact that you said "Slack delivers Linux as it should be" pretty much made me not want to read the rest of your comment. Where oh where is it written that the "Slackware way" is the official way?
Regarding where you try to compare and contrast Red Hat and Slackware by saying Slackare "here's lots of great linux stuff, packaged up and guaranteed to work out of the box", I'd credit Red Hat here more than Slackware.
Red Hat is the one packaging things up and and making a "more complete" linux distro. Last time I checked when it came to admin tools Slackware was severely lacking. They also unlike distros like Red Hat are apt just to throw a bunch of standard linux packages together as opposed to Red Hat who is known to customizes at the source level to add needed performance or security improvements.
To say the Slack just focuses on stability and simpilcity as opposed to Red Hat who actually spends a ton of time and money on stability testing is misleading to say the least. Lastly you mentioned "massively-patched package" as a bad thing. When Red Hat patches as I mentioned just above its for a reason, and usually a good one. Slackware's lack of patches and "little things which make using linux easier" is really just a reflection that they don't have the manpower or money to add needed improvements which make the a distro perform better.
I didn't reply to slam Slackware but to point out some common myths that some Slackware users continue to go on about. Different stokes for different folks, but Slackware sure as hell isn't better for the reasons and partial myths that your still trying to spread.
Well although they loved jamming in front of great fans, you can't say they choose that over "making a lot of money".
Financially the Grateful Dead was an extremely successful band. If someone can make as much money as them while literally giving their music away for free, how can anyone not question the current RIAA business model?
Or have them get annoyed at you when OO screws up and loses all the formatting of the word doc.
.doc import feature loses its charm.
Sorry but even as a big OO booster, I'm the first to say that importing word docs is still a total crapshoot. Plain text letters etc come through fine most of the time. In fact most of the content comes through, but when it comes to even slightly complex word docs with images and lots of formatting OO chokes badly. Sure you end up with most of the text and images, but then you have to spend 5 minutes trying to move everything back to whre it should be the
I don't fault OO for this since sucky MS won't open their file specs though. Unfortunately MS knows that proprietary Office file formats are the key to its desktop monopoly, so don't expect that to change in our lifetime.
Honestly though I just don't think its right to outright lie to people and say OO can easily open all Word files. That's probably never going to happen. For me its not a problem since I never deal with a ton of word docs anymore, but for those who HAVE to both send and recieve word docs all day long I can't say they should see that as a plus for using OpenOffice.
God I hate proprietary file specs and protocols.
Yea and what if she went on a shooting spree? What would they think then? I don't get your point.
Why are you tring to compare someone who is trying to do massive damage with someone who basically went 56 in a 55?
That's like saying yea the Pope is a good guy, but what if he went around kicking people in the balls. He doesn't and she didn't do what your proposing so your analogy makes zero sense. Why even ponder such a question?
If your interested in seeing what people say when young people commit truly horrible crimes feel free to do your own research. Regardless you can't be surprised that society treats a child who steals a pack of gum differently then one who shoots the store owner.
The article pretty much discounts that because he would have been in his 70's when doing it. Also in some places they have reappeared when overpaved since they're sightings in the 80's.
/. doesn't start a copycat craze. I'd would be a shame someone else took credit or led the investigation in the wrong direction.
Plus they said this probably required heavy equipment. I can't see some guy in his 70's out in the middle of the night(Old people don't stay up late) lugging equipment around.
The clue which points to him certainly is the best starting place, but I'm guessing its some other wacko who heard what he said and decided to make his crazy theories his life work.
I just hope having this on
He could have started up a dot.com gone public and cashed out as a millionare.
Should have bought a SMC router, many of them have print servers built into them. The new cheapie SMC's even have real SPI Firewalls in them doing more then just blocking all inbound packets. Sure it isn't a highend firewall, but they are really quite impressive for what your spending. I mean something that costs less than $50 and emails you if someone is trying to SYN scan or DOS you is pretty cool.
If my 7004BR wasn't so dam reliable(been running for years with barely any reboots) I'd replace it for another SMC just for the Firewall stuff.
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The last two remaining amateur Morese Code fans go wild!
I don't know enough to have an opinion but a few people on usenet have commented on this topic and were not too happy.(yea I know what a surprise people on usenet were complaining).
Mostly they were not happy because if there is a fire or such then much of video game history as we know it goes away forever. Alos there is the point that without letting dumpers access those boards, those games will simply rot and never be recoverable. So basically the collective opinion was "what a waste" since most people felt it should be donated to a museum or have parts or it loaned out so that the data on those boards and such could be preserved.
Like I said I don't know enough to say if they are right. Maybe they were wrong and this stuff is actually going to be correctly preserved.t I do agree that the utmost care should be taken so that 20 years of rare and valuable gaming history are not lost or forgotten.
"I'm so sick and tired of seeing this crap ass argument. There are less worms affecting Linux becaues NO ONE USES IT. I'm not saying that thats a bad thing.
Its not a crap arguement its true. In case your living under a rock or something there are a hell of a lot of servers out there running linux. So no your flat out wrong, people do use it. I recall one worm in the like the last 3 years that did anything. When it comes to MS servers how many more worms that take advantage of IIS and SQL do you need?
"But if Linux on the Desktop had 98% market saturation and Windows had 1%, it would have been linuxblaster and the MS fanboys would be laughing and saying "see, no msblaster worms".""
Yea and if a cow had dick it would be a bull. So what? You don't know that and your can' prove that.
Sorry people ragging on MS's shoddy security practices puts a bug up your butt. This is the way its going to be until MS gets its act together.
One last point
"no linux license fees
Thats because, with linux, they're ingeniously called support fee's. "
Err no with most linux distros there are NO license fees. With Windows you get to pay not only license fees but support fee's as well.
"This is a community of smart people, the race is on to figure out how to best solve this issue for our end users. Microsoft appears to be beating us by requiring far less updates to be applied than a randomly chosed Linux distro."
A) Linux and its associative apps are opensource so your going to find more security flaws due to the nature of opensource. This is a GOOD thing.
B) The ratio of packages per "average" linux distro vs. say 2k server or 2k3 server is what? 15 to 1? So judging by that fact its surprising that Microsoft continues to have as many problems as they do. When comparing correctly there is no comparison, MS loses hands down.
"... but we should really be debating how we get this right on an OSS platform. If I put RedHat9 next to Windows Server 2003 I have significantly more updates to apply to my Linux box."
Any admin who actually knows how to use update and secure both linux and windows would say different. With Microsoft patches there is decent chance that the patch will not only not work and require a second patch, but also might hose your system. All those admins who get nailed by worms aren't just lazy. Many of them have been burned by MS patches and choose just not to use them.
Let's also not forget about huge mega patch service packs that you have to use which are somehow ignored in your "count". Forgot about those huh? How many patches do these monsters hold? Hundreds? At a minimum. And of course nobody's system EVER gets hosed by service packs....
How about those great new restrictive licensing terms which get forced down your throat just because you want to secure your box?
Lastly even though 2k3 is better about it, I'll also enjoy not having to reboot my system for a simple patch. Don't you think average downtime should be added into the equation?
I'll take Red Hat's or any other linux vendors patching system any day of the week thanks.
Blah Blah. Again with the stupid arguement that names matter...
/. at least you'll now why. :-/
From now on I'm just putting all of you down as enemies so that you will be forever modded to -6 and I won't have to read this pointless arguement about names anymore.
When you see a shiny colored button in the comments while your reading
" because the Open Source movement has never, EVER been about innovation"
Don't be such a stupid Troll. At some point everything is built upon something which came before it. Your examples are like looking at a Porsche and saying "Yep no innovation there", its just a copy of a Model T.
"And you're a bloody hypocrite if you do."
Just because you believe in freedom doesn't mean your supposed to sit still while someone takes a dump on your face.
"Make sure you have skills that are so valuable that you won't be outsourced. If you can't do that, then find another line of work, you lazy bastard"
Wow you totally don't have a clue huh? Are still in college or in your 20's or something?
"I was thinking about going into IT. "
How fortunate you haven't spent a decade in the field and then lost your job because someone is getting paid 1/4 your wage. What do you care right? Why should American companies take care of their own? Its not like there's any benefit to that. Nope none at all.
"Tough. Adapt or die"
I hope a robot takes your job.
"Another memorable EULA quote: I'm forbidden to use Visual Studio tools to make any word processing or spreadsheet application, unless it's a small part of a larger application. Unlike Open Source, if a Microsoft-enchained programmer (like me) invents a better mousetrap, they're verboten to release it."
Does it really say you can't do that? That's insane. I don't see how that would be legally enforceable. If anyone needed any proof that MS should have been broken into little pieces, there you go.
That fact that any developer would buy any software which limits exactly what they could create with it is pretty surprising. Imagine if art stores used EULA's with their paint brushes?
I'd really like to see that particular EULA. Next time I hear some dev crowing about VS I'll have to ask them if there sure their products are in compliance. Pathetic.
" It's like saying you can be bought to defend principles that you don't even believe in. "
"In the case of the lawer profession, it's a direct corelation of how one's moral decisions can be directly bought"
Nobody's morals are being bought and your views pretty well off from reality.
"The cops can be blaimed for being sloppy."
Then blame the cops for not doing their job. Not the lawyer for pointing out that proper procedure wasn't followed. Thank God we don't let things like that slide. Its the only thing keeping the police and other people honest. If we were to starting convicting people based on compromised evidence and just "let things slide" when it comes to procedure the world would be a much worse place. Nobody liked seeing O.J. getting off, but at the same time I'm glad the cops can't use half-asses evidence to convict.
"But they make the morally wrong decision because it's their job. "
Umm no? What is morally wrong about defending someone? We don't live in a world where everything is so black and white.
It's not "morally wrong" to defend someone no matter what the charge. Our country is founded on that premise. Sometimes the people are ugly, but you either support rights for everyone or not at all. I'll always pick the former. Also just because a lawyer gets a client who committed a crime a tells the lawyer he did it, doesn't mean representing that client compromises the lawyer's morals. Our legal system is setup specifically so that everyone is presumed inoccent and until proven guilty. You simply can't look at the role lawyers are put into when defending someone and say they are being "bought". That arguement shows a fundemental lack of understanding of how our legal system works. They are simply acting out thier role in a framework which forces them to defend the client to the best of their ability. It also ignores the fact that most lawyers are very ethical people. Sure you get people like Johnney C. who makes all lawyers look bad, but pick any field and there are bad apples in the bunch.
"From a high level view of the lawer profession..."
That actully really does show. I'm sure your a decent person and my intent was not to be nasty, but the legal profession simply isn't like the stereo-typical view your espousing. That probably won't help the next time you see a lawyer defeding someone you don't like but like I said its not so black and white.
"If that's not acceptable, then how about giving other browsers some press time too? Opera's a great example. "
Err, no thanks. Perhaps your confusing this site for someplace that puts commercial closed sources products ahead of our own community ones? Gee should Slashdot report on a browser that is being made for the common good and is used by every linux distro or some commercial browser that could go out of business anyday leaving us with nothing?
"C'mon guys, the pro-Mozilla zealousy is nauseating."
You ignorance is nauseating.
Myth #243
AFAIK you don't end up with a million and one useless daemons starting a la RedHat or Mandrake (yes, they are bad for this.)
Reality
They don't make that much a difference and there aren't that many of them. Of the ones there are you can disable whatever you want simply from the commandline or from a nice gui. What makes distros "slow" is when you try to run Gnome or KDE on a older machine. These daemons only take a few megs and most of the time simply idle.
Red Hat running Blackbox or XFCE is a fast as Gentoo running Blackbox or XFCE. Carve that into your chest with a knife and then show every Gentoo you can find. We need to get the word out...
You can Google for this vaporware and see promises from as recent as 2 months ago that everything is on track.
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This Mark Prewitt who was vice president of sales and marketing is caught pretty bad here.
http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2003/06/10/
"Unfortunately, the same guys that do the development had to do the rebranding," said Prewitt. "We're all wearing different hats. We ended up ceasing development on it for about a week," he said."
Only a week eh? LOL.