To be honest, it used to be. What's now called domain-specific languages, we used to call Lex and YACC exercises. You had to learn various grammars etc. and be capable of developing your own. This would be 1990-92, for all I know it still is a requirement, though I would imagine the tooling has changed.
The belief in syntax as immutable is wrong - it's a tool like any other, change it if it holds you back. I'm thinking now about the continued wedding to things like C etc. - they have their place, but they're not the way forward anymore.
Well, arguably the current laws do. That sounds like it's addressing copyright protection and royalty payments to a musician's estate to me. I know no detail about this, just going on what the quote says.
No, you're not missing anything and are correct. Original question was "what does iOS have to do with Siri?" with the question text being that the person thought all Siri processing was done in the cloud.
The answer is as you say - all speech-to-text is done in the cloud, however then that text is sent back to the originating iOS device and it is iOS that actually interprets it.
Yes, it does. The phone sends UDP packets to the hubs for the device, or depending on the device it might send direct without any hub. The devices then responds accordingly.
I use HomeBridge running in a Docker image on my NAS, to get various things that don't have native HomeKit support working (LightwaveRF gen 1, Dyson fans, Neato robot vacs, Logitech Harmony remotes). You can see this UDP packet behaviour by watching the logs.
October 2018 (obviously impossible) would have enshrined this into the UK transitional period too. Haven't heard anything about what the UK will do - am really hoping we stop changing as well.
I responded to the survey voting for 'stop changing', so I'm happy with this.
Not so - there are no "manufacturer's server". It just works off my phone, unless I have an AppleTV or similar to act as a hub. I mean - simple example. "Hey Siri, play last song". It's iOS that understands that, the cloud just interprets the words.
That's just the voice processing. Something has to actually act on the result when it received it. "Hey Siri, set living rooms lights to 70%" is a command I use fairly often - voice recognition in the cloud, but then something has to logically interpret the command as a result and then physically do something.
Yes. Happens with my car bluetooth - it almost feels like a buffer misalignment where it goes through junk and then crackles like an old vinyl record every few seconds, which I would guess is it trying to play random memory.
AMP just seems like WAP reborn to me, only hosted at Google. Makes it easier for them to parse, but nobody actually wanted it.
Should be any easy one to refuse.
You will be surprised how many business users use Snipping Tool. I mean, would I buy an entire OS just for that? No. Will I welcome some improvements? Yes, yes I will.
And proper line ending support in Notepad is a godsend.
That's literally what this is doing. I commented in favour of scrapping changing - I'm in the UK, so by the time this happens it won't automatically apply to me. I do hope we follow suite here though.
This is the right thing to do but I'm in interested in the technical detail - I thought apps were sandboxed and couldn't know about each other. How did it collect info? Are they talking network destinations via the VPN, or actual on-device discovery of apps.
I mean, that's blatantly untrue because they could. And they don't.
Whether it's going to be true in 20 years time when the next gen of people running the company take over is interesting, but today? I mean, they literally went to court fight the FBI over customer privacy.
To be fair, Soylent News was from the dark days of beta. Had Slashdot continued going down that route, an alternative would have been necessary, and forking is simply what you do in open source-land if you don't like the direction of the main project. I'm registered there and to be honest the articles are very similar in tone to here. I've not posted, but I have the site on an RSS feed anyway.
The one that really went to hell fast was the Reddit-alike Voat. Soylent News I read via RSS, but don't really feel the need for now Slashdot has got back on track.
Rubbish. Moderation made Slashdot. It's what allowed the conversation to stand out from usenet. First Digg and later Reddit copied it, with the Reddit founders explicitly stating they were copying and aiming at Slashdot (their 10th anniversary podcast).
The difference isn't moderation, it was that the other sites evolved to allow moderation for all. Digg added conversation for all with user posting. Reddit then added subdivision - the subreddit idea. Digg learned this the hard way - when they took away user moderation, they collapsed and Reddit became the beneficiary.
Whether it's for good or ill, who knows? It's different. I'm active on Slashdot, and Reddit. I was vaguely active on Digg but more a lurker than anything else. Slashdot still mostly stays with on topic conversation and hasn't devolved into the predictability of the Reddit response, but then again on Reddit I can talk about a wider amount of things and post my own questions to smaller audience that's just about the topic at hand. There's room in the world for both.
Yes. It's all about the integration with the rest of your life. Playlists everywhere, familiar and more-oftently-updated apps, integration with you chosen voice assistant, podcasts syncing read status...
It's an integration thing - one less thing to worry about being different and if it syncs or not.
Agreed (and I'm not really arguing with you either - I think you're right). The break I'll give them is for consumer gaming - previous cards were pro cards, the Voodoo was the first that I can recall at least that was aimed directly at gaming.
True, but I'll give 3DFX a break here because they were first. They essentially created a market, it wasn't clear at the time that interoperability for consumer PCs was going to be necessary.
I do indeed - I'm using one. VDI infrastructure in larger corporates makes an awful lot of sense, and I'm happily using my VM stuck somewhere, connected to via a Wyse client. No perceptible latency. Even the streaming videos I watch on it work fine.
That said, that's for standard PC productivity affair. Not sure how it would cope with a game, and also of course I'm using the internal LAN and not trying the public internet. Situation different, but just wanted to say thin clients are not only not dead, they're increasing.
They specifically addressed this on the radio this morning - was an industry guy but he said a move towards eliminating 'false advertising' would be part of the plan. And yes - it's full fibre they're talking about, not just fibre to the cabinet then last hop copper.
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To be honest, it used to be. What's now called domain-specific languages, we used to call Lex and YACC exercises. You had to learn various grammars etc. and be capable of developing your own. This would be 1990-92, for all I know it still is a requirement, though I would imagine the tooling has changed.
The belief in syntax as immutable is wrong - it's a tool like any other, change it if it holds you back. I'm thinking now about the continued wedding to things like C etc. - they have their place, but they're not the way forward anymore.
Well, arguably the current laws do. That sounds like it's addressing copyright protection and royalty payments to a musician's estate to me. I know no detail about this, just going on what the quote says.
No, you're not missing anything and are correct. Original question was "what does iOS have to do with Siri?" with the question text being that the person thought all Siri processing was done in the cloud.
The answer is as you say - all speech-to-text is done in the cloud, however then that text is sent back to the originating iOS device and it is iOS that actually interprets it.
Yes, it does. The phone sends UDP packets to the hubs for the device, or depending on the device it might send direct without any hub. The devices then responds accordingly.
I use HomeBridge running in a Docker image on my NAS, to get various things that don't have native HomeKit support working (LightwaveRF gen 1, Dyson fans, Neato robot vacs, Logitech Harmony remotes). You can see this UDP packet behaviour by watching the logs.
You're a Slashdot reader. I heard about it from here.
October 2018 (obviously impossible) would have enshrined this into the UK transitional period too. Haven't heard anything about what the UK will do - am really hoping we stop changing as well.
I responded to the survey voting for 'stop changing', so I'm happy with this.
which runs on iOS...
Not so - there are no "manufacturer's server". It just works off my phone, unless I have an AppleTV or similar to act as a hub. I mean - simple example. "Hey Siri, play last song". It's iOS that understands that, the cloud just interprets the words.
That's just the voice processing. Something has to actually act on the result when it received it. "Hey Siri, set living rooms lights to 70%" is a command I use fairly often - voice recognition in the cloud, but then something has to logically interpret the command as a result and then physically do something.
Yes. Happens with my car bluetooth - it almost feels like a buffer misalignment where it goes through junk and then crackles like an old vinyl record every few seconds, which I would guess is it trying to play random memory.
It might be, but Apple used to compare themselves to themselves. They used to be better than this at naming.
AMP just seems like WAP reborn to me, only hosted at Google. Makes it easier for them to parse, but nobody actually wanted it. Should be any easy one to refuse.
Reclassify? But Pluto has always been a planet and shall also be in the future. Why, are some poor misguided souls saying otherwise?
You will be surprised how many business users use Snipping Tool. I mean, would I buy an entire OS just for that? No. Will I welcome some improvements? Yes, yes I will. And proper line ending support in Notepad is a godsend.
That's literally what this is doing. I commented in favour of scrapping changing - I'm in the UK, so by the time this happens it won't automatically apply to me. I do hope we follow suite here though.
This is the right thing to do but I'm in interested in the technical detail - I thought apps were sandboxed and couldn't know about each other. How did it collect info? Are they talking network destinations via the VPN, or actual on-device discovery of apps.
I mean, that's blatantly untrue because they could. And they don't. Whether it's going to be true in 20 years time when the next gen of people running the company take over is interesting, but today? I mean, they literally went to court fight the FBI over customer privacy.
To be fair, Soylent News was from the dark days of beta. Had Slashdot continued going down that route, an alternative would have been necessary, and forking is simply what you do in open source-land if you don't like the direction of the main project. I'm registered there and to be honest the articles are very similar in tone to here. I've not posted, but I have the site on an RSS feed anyway.
The one that really went to hell fast was the Reddit-alike Voat. Soylent News I read via RSS, but don't really feel the need for now Slashdot has got back on track.
Rubbish. Moderation made Slashdot. It's what allowed the conversation to stand out from usenet. First Digg and later Reddit copied it, with the Reddit founders explicitly stating they were copying and aiming at Slashdot (their 10th anniversary podcast).
The difference isn't moderation, it was that the other sites evolved to allow moderation for all. Digg added conversation for all with user posting. Reddit then added subdivision - the subreddit idea. Digg learned this the hard way - when they took away user moderation, they collapsed and Reddit became the beneficiary.
Whether it's for good or ill, who knows? It's different. I'm active on Slashdot, and Reddit. I was vaguely active on Digg but more a lurker than anything else. Slashdot still mostly stays with on topic conversation and hasn't devolved into the predictability of the Reddit response, but then again on Reddit I can talk about a wider amount of things and post my own questions to smaller audience that's just about the topic at hand. There's room in the world for both.
Yes. It's all about the integration with the rest of your life. Playlists everywhere, familiar and more-oftently-updated apps, integration with you chosen voice assistant, podcasts syncing read status...
It's an integration thing - one less thing to worry about being different and if it syncs or not.
If you're going to add software...
Agreed (and I'm not really arguing with you either - I think you're right). The break I'll give them is for consumer gaming - previous cards were pro cards, the Voodoo was the first that I can recall at least that was aimed directly at gaming.
True, but I'll give 3DFX a break here because they were first. They essentially created a market, it wasn't clear at the time that interoperability for consumer PCs was going to be necessary.
I do indeed - I'm using one. VDI infrastructure in larger corporates makes an awful lot of sense, and I'm happily using my VM stuck somewhere, connected to via a Wyse client. No perceptible latency. Even the streaming videos I watch on it work fine.
That said, that's for standard PC productivity affair. Not sure how it would cope with a game, and also of course I'm using the internal LAN and not trying the public internet. Situation different, but just wanted to say thin clients are not only not dead, they're increasing.
They specifically addressed this on the radio this morning - was an industry guy but he said a move towards eliminating 'false advertising' would be part of the plan. And yes - it's full fibre they're talking about, not just fibre to the cabinet then last hop copper.