OK Mr credible, care to show anyone who thinks China isn't getting better? Where are your links to data showing China is causing all the problems in the world? Let's see where you are getting your information from.
You really are some kind of stable genius aren't you.
Jesus Windy, there has been thread after thread showing how wrong you are, and and pointing out your idiocy and lies. But you turn around and claim other people aren't credible? You are a complete joke. You pull numbers out your ass constantly, and claim anything that feels right in your gut without a second though to it being true or not, or even bothering to check. When someone, often me, calls you out on your idiocy you just go silent or try and change the topic.
Did you ever find out where coal really comes from?
Or how hard it is to mine 5km under water?
Or did you just move on to your next anti-China troll and hope no one would remember how wrong you were?
That's the best you could do?
You failed to discuss any of the points raised and instead just showed you ignorance.
What's even funnier is that you did kind of raise another point. But it isn't what you hoped for. America has a rather large trade deficit with China. So if you want to add in trade. It just makes America's position even weaker and their high levels of pollution even worse.
If I make a sandwich in San Francisco, how much GDP, how about the same sandwich in Houston, how much GDP? What about the exact same sandwich in China, how much GDP? They all make the same CO2. What you are claiming is nonsense.
I sing you a song and you pay me $1000. Zero CO2 $1000. I sing the same song in China for $1 still zero CO2. vastly different GDP.
Exclusively looking at GDP is a sign that the person doesn't understand what GDP is. It's the dollar value of economic activity.
Or even the EU, which is more efficient than the US but at substantially higher cost.
This is just gibberish, it's clear you don't know what you are talking about.
But why? What has GDP, a measure of dollars, have to do with CO2?
You are still expecting a country with a bigger economy, who produce more things and who have 4 times the population to produce an equivalent amount of CO2 as a rich country based on services who import quite a lot of their stuff from the country you are complaining about...
So you will be happier when they are just like America? When they are as 'efficient' as you, when they get to be as rich as you?
If they become identical to you, they will have 4x the population, 4x the money, 4x the economy, 4x the consumption and guess what, also 4x the CO2. You think that is a good thing for the planet?
That's all well and good. But it's not what happened here. And has nothing to do with what I mentioned. Specifically sensationalizing things in the summary that are not that a big of a deal.
Is it possibly because they didn't have an actual big deal, but still desperately needed people to read their report?
Yes, I agree. All those bad things are very bad. (If true, they didn't try the brakes). But 'being able to tell where the car is' was specifically highlighted in the summary, that's clearly not in the same league.
You are one of those even rarer people who can't press the off button. The market for people who can buy and drive a car but who can't turn off music must be vanishingly small. It's no wonder you couldn't find a vehicle manufacturer catering to your extremely small market niche.
They can adopt quickly and see the logic. Then why hasn't anyone told them before? They have had a very long time to notice even if the civilized countries forgot to tell them.
Who is going to keep lending it to them next time?
The whole financial system is based on the concept of US Federal debt being 'risk free'. I wonder what will happen if that is no longer the case.
The thing about planning any far reaching system is that you need to consider what the damage that can be done if people with less-than-noble intentions take control of the system and use it to further their own goals
That's the beauty of the Chinese system, Xi is already emperor for life. So that little problem was already sorted out first:)
Many people get to decide where to purchase their electricity, as you well know from your own situation.
So you are saying it's just blind luck that the US produces more CO2 than Europe? Governments and businesses are just so much different between the two? No, the people in Europe demand better, and so the governments and businesses deliver.
You think the business in China care about being green? You think the government does? Both only do it because the people demand it. And they don't even get a vote or choice!
What car do you drive? And who forced you to buy that car? Government mandate, or did some business force you to buy it? What about people who walk/cycle/bus/train/work from home? Did the big bad government choose for them?
Even if you by a car, you still get to choose which one.
You decided to buy solar.
You decided to get an EV.
You decide what to buy, what to eat, what to do for entertainment, how many kids to have, where to live, where to take them for holidays, who you vote for, where you spend your money, what setting to put your thermostat on.
You are so special and choose, but the rest of America doesn't? They don't choose big gas guzzling cars and live in suburbs far away from their workplaces? They don't choose to heat and cool some of the biggest houses in the world? If the government forced you, why didn't it force all the others? Why are the governments and businesses so much more powerful in Europe to make their CO2 so much less than yours?
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OK Mr credible, care to show anyone who thinks China isn't getting better? Where are your links to data showing China is causing all the problems in the world? Let's see where you are getting your information from.
You really are some kind of stable genius aren't you.
Jesus Windy, there has been thread after thread showing how wrong you are, and and pointing out your idiocy and lies. But you turn around and claim other people aren't credible? You are a complete joke. You pull numbers out your ass constantly, and claim anything that feels right in your gut without a second though to it being true or not, or even bothering to check. When someone, often me, calls you out on your idiocy you just go silent or try and change the topic.
Did you ever find out where coal really comes from?
Or how hard it is to mine 5km under water?
Or did you just move on to your next anti-China troll and hope no one would remember how wrong you were?
So you favour stability over common sense? Are you sure you aren't Chinese?
Now try and justify why you think stable and high is better for the planet than low and very slowly increasing.
The only way to clean this up and minimize it, is to shut down coal plants
Those words don't mean what you think they mean.
That's the best you could do?
You failed to discuss any of the points raised and instead just showed you ignorance.
What's even funnier is that you did kind of raise another point. But it isn't what you hoped for. America has a rather large trade deficit with China. So if you want to add in trade. It just makes America's position even weaker and their high levels of pollution even worse.
I sing you a song and you pay me $1000. Zero CO2 $1000. I sing the same song in China for $1 still zero CO2. vastly different GDP. Exclusively looking at GDP is a sign that the person doesn't understand what GDP is. It's the dollar value of economic activity.
Or even the EU, which is more efficient than the US but at substantially higher cost.
This is just gibberish, it's clear you don't know what you are talking about.
But why? What has GDP, a measure of dollars, have to do with CO2?
You are still expecting a country with a bigger economy, who produce more things and who have 4 times the population to produce an equivalent amount of CO2 as a rich country based on services who import quite a lot of their stuff from the country you are complaining about...
So you will be happier when they are just like America? When they are as 'efficient' as you, when they get to be as rich as you?
If they become identical to you, they will have 4x the population, 4x the money, 4x the economy, 4x the consumption and guess what, also 4x the CO2. You think that is a good thing for the planet?
No, I don't expect them to produce less CO2. But if they are going to emit twice as much CO2 their GDP should be twice that of the US.
Why?
I hope you're not using google to translate numbers from Chinese. You will be in for a big surprise.
Even if Trump goes to prison, it's not like everyone who voted for him or supports him will have to join him there.
That's all well and good. But it's not what happened here. And has nothing to do with what I mentioned. Specifically sensationalizing things in the summary that are not that a big of a deal.
Is it possibly because they didn't have an actual big deal, but still desperately needed people to read their report?
Yes, I agree. All those bad things are very bad. (If true, they didn't try the brakes). But 'being able to tell where the car is' was specifically highlighted in the summary, that's clearly not in the same league.
You are one of those even rarer people who can't press the off button. The market for people who can buy and drive a car but who can't turn off music must be vanishingly small. It's no wonder you couldn't find a vehicle manufacturer catering to your extremely small market niche.
If you are plugging in a USB you probably know exactly where the car is already, also you would have a general idea if it's in WiFi range.
No really, Israel.
They can adopt quickly and see the logic. Then why hasn't anyone told them before? They have had a very long time to notice even if the civilized countries forgot to tell them.
It wouldn't work, they wouldn't use them.
Who is going to keep lending it to them next time?
The whole financial system is based on the concept of US Federal debt being 'risk free'. I wonder what will happen if that is no longer the case.
The thing about planning any far reaching system is that you need to consider what the damage that can be done if people with less-than-noble intentions take control of the system and use it to further their own goals
That's the beauty of the Chinese system, Xi is already emperor for life. So that little problem was already sorted out first :)
Many people get to decide where to purchase their electricity, as you well know from your own situation.
So you are saying it's just blind luck that the US produces more CO2 than Europe? Governments and businesses are just so much different between the two? No, the people in Europe demand better, and so the governments and businesses deliver.
You think the business in China care about being green? You think the government does? Both only do it because the people demand it. And they don't even get a vote or choice!
What car do you drive? And who forced you to buy that car? Government mandate, or did some business force you to buy it? What about people who walk/cycle/bus/train/work from home? Did the big bad government choose for them?
Even if you by a car, you still get to choose which one.
You decided to buy solar.
You decided to get an EV.
You decide what to buy, what to eat, what to do for entertainment, how many kids to have, where to live, where to take them for holidays, who you vote for, where you spend your money, what setting to put your thermostat on.
You are so special and choose, but the rest of America doesn't? They don't choose big gas guzzling cars and live in suburbs far away from their workplaces? They don't choose to heat and cool some of the biggest houses in the world? If the government forced you, why didn't it force all the others? Why are the governments and businesses so much more powerful in Europe to make their CO2 so much less than yours?
You post GUESSES from EIA who has a LONG history of not getting a SINGLE PREDICTION CORRECT.
A PREDICTION from EIA is surely more valuable than numbers you pull from your ASS.
So just 1 more data point agreeing with that study that showed fox viewers knew less than people who watched no news at all.
"computer programmer's motivator" seeking women applicants with physical characteristics like Japanese adult film star Sola Aoi
Seems more balanced than a lot of places, just ask some actual Japanese.
These for starters, you will find out the rest when the business themselves close down as they are no longer profitable.