They already are. They've been on them for a short time now. Not all flights are covered. I saw a good special on it a month or so back. The details are kept very secret. They are trained and armed and ready to deal with just about any incident that comes up. I was talking with someone about this tonight and think that it's a great idea. At least two should be on each flight I think. An infinite number of disguises or gags could be used. Exact procedures need to be in place to deal with each incident (I think that's already been taken care of though). For example, on a 747 with two aisles, the marshal on the aisle with the straight on shoot (not across the plane towards the walls) should take the shots. No warning should be given either. You're wielding a gun or knife, you're a bullet sponge as far as I'm concerned. The other marshal should not make themselves known. They should stay seated and pretend they are a simple passenger. I remember reading about how numerous well-planned jackings have the boss on board or another accomplice sitting as a passenger. They don't make themselves known unless something goes south. If the marshal both made themselves known, they've just identified themselves as the two targets to eliminate to retake the plane. Anyhow, I thought I'd toss that out there. It's already being done. Just not to an extreme extent.
I know this post is going to be lost in the unprecidented mass of posts that have occured today, but I want to say it just the same. To all those/.ers, foreign and domestic that have expressed their condolences for the tragic loss today, thank you. Your voices are heard, if only for an instant. For those of you in the US, please please please consider giving blood or a few dollars to the Red Cross Emergency Relief Fund. This was an attack on us as a nation and we need to stand together as one nation. Also, express your support to the government officials that represent you to take terminal action against those that threaten our great nation or any other nation for that matter. For you non-US/.ers, express your support to whomever represents you in your government for their support of anti-terrorist measures that need to be taken. Tomorrow it may be your country that falls under terrorist attack.
Also, I don't recall any other/. series or stories (3 in all so far) receiving as great as attention as they have today. 3685 comments have been posted so far. I think that's a record.
Here's a mirror of the Washington Post picture before it gets/.ed. It shows a big hole in one tower ad billowing black smoke from both. Also, here's a rip off of the Washington Post story. (sorry WP):
Planes Crash Into World Trade Center
NEW YORK - An aircraft crashed into the upper floors of one of the World Trade Center towers Tuesday morning, and black smoke poured out of two gaping holes, witnesses said. Shortly afterward a second explosion rocked the other tower.
There was no immediate word on injuries or fatalities in the disaster, which happened shortly before 9 a.m.
The plane was coming in low and... it looked like it hit at a slight angle," said Sean Murtagh, a CNN vice president, the network reported.
Large holes were visible in two sides of the 110-story building, one of landmark twin towers.
There was no immediate word on injuries or fatalities in the twin disasters, which happened shortly before 9 a.m. and then right around 9 a.m.
The towers were struck by bombers in February 1993.
"The plane was coming in low and... it looked like it hit at a slight angle," said Sean Murtagh, a CNN vice president, the network reported.
Large holes were visible in sides of the 110-story buildings, landmark twin towers.
The tops of the twin towers were obscured by the smoke.
Thousands of pieces of what appeared to be office paper came drifting over Brooklyn, about three miles from the tower, one witness said.
The center bombingon Feb. 26, 1993, killing six people and injured more than 1,000 others.
In 1945, an Army Air Corps B-25, a twin-engine bomber, crashed into the 79th floor of the Empire State Building in dense fog.
Seriously. Starcraft really does make you think. You have to plan your attacks and defenses according to your opponent. Can I send 6 tanks in against 24 marines with stimpaks? It also is a little violent. Not in the sense that most people think of when they picture a violent game, but in the sense that you do kill beings. My $.02.
I was just getting ready to post about it. I love VT. It's been my default page now since at least '97. It's a great site. I haven't used the Windows side of it since I am a Mac guy (does the nick give it away) so I can't comment on it much. If it's as complete as the Mac site, it's well worth a look. Freshmeat.net will always be my *nix site but VT is my Mac site.
I have Cox Cable in Kansas which gets me RR. It's been ok except for a number of times where Cox had a bad case of router flap upstream of me and I couldn't get anyone at their tech support competent enough to understand the information I was giving. If DSL reached my building, I would have switched after that week of hell. It appears that there is no tier 2 in their tech support line. At the end I was finally pissed enough that I asked about what the procedure was for terminating an account. HE asked who's account. I told him my own. The guy hung up on me. Nice. They also don't have any way for the average Joe Admin to reach any security, abuse, or incident response team. You have to email them, never get a response, and hope they actually get off their asses and do something. The last time I reported 3 HipCrime IPs to them, it took them over two weeks for something to be done and I never heard about a final resolution. From one network professional to another, that is unacceptable. I think it's time for a bitch-list for them.
And it's an interesting idea. The only problem is random strings within the message. You've noticed the "[x623k9fd]" crap at the end of many of your subject lines (way way out there) haven't you? That random crap is usually different for each and every message that gets spammed out. Many large ISP MTAs filter mail when more than XYZ pieces of it come in with the same subject line, so they have to get creative and write random gibberish. That by itself will nix the MD5sum idea. Let's say we skip the subject line and just MD5sum the body. Shortly there after the spammers will start doing the same thing to text within in the message. They could stick some random giberish in HTML comments or tack it on to the end of a URL like "fred.html?blahblahblah". Bye bye MD5sums again.
Another way of identifying spam is looking for keywords and phrases. Each match raises the likelyhood that it's spam. A product has been built for this too, although I forget it's name. Supposed to work fairly well.
I personally use the RSS, DUL, soon the RBL, and a very very long access list of known spammers.
Just block them. They've been in my access list with a REJECT statement for some time now. My access list is just under 1000 lines long, including a few RELAY entries. I don't wait for MAPS to list them in the RBL, RSS, or DUL. I do the research, scan the logs from time to time, and block them myself. Simple.
IIRC from my early Computer Engineering classes, all it takes to damage a circuit is +5 volts or static electricity. It seems like it was something around +10,000 volts of static electricity before we as humans feel it. I think that's right. I'll have to dig out my old books. They showed a demonstration video of a typical engineer in a simple short sleeved button down shirt (plain) and simple tie. He neutralized himself (voltage equalization IIRC). Then someone (also equalized) held the tie at shoulder level just away from the 1st guy's shirt. He let go and let the tie brush against the guy's shirt. They then measured how much static electtricity was generated. It was more than enough to damage a circuit board. Mind you, +5v probably won't toast a board right away but it could easily cause damage that shows up down the road. IIRC correctly of course. It's been a while since I had that class.
That's odd. On my Old World Macs I did just insert the CD and boot. Simple really.
I do agree that it may not be the easiest platform to start out on with Linux. It is much easier than Alpha or Sparc though; you've got to give it that. It's not terribly difficult to master. You just have to be Linux-competent enough to be able to compile your own software sometimes. You also have to understand that not everyone programs in a portable way. You also have to understand that PPC development is usually 2nd priority or lower for many developers. Not everyone understands this. Also not all hardware works in PPC Linux variants. That's a pain. Personally I have numerous PPC-based servers (pre-G3 Macs mainly) that run flawlessly with LinuxPPC. Then again I'm also not a newbie.:-) YDL and LPPC have made great strides towards making PPC Linux very user friendly, at least on default installations. They sure beat RedHat to the punch on that one.
If it's ruled as inadmissible (sp?) then the Gov has no case. Everything they have came from what they got via that tap. If tap == illegal, evidence acquired via tap == inadmissible.
On a more ancillary note: His email was tremendously 'trollish' - his tone and demeanour would tell me that this person's ego had a LARGE part in his reaction to RMS... that tells more about hims own personality than it does RMS's.
It doesn't indicate that. It doesn't indicate that at all. What is does indicate is that the author is a man that's sick of RMS's shit. It's pretty simple really. He's a man that's been pushed to the limits and isn't going to take it anymore.
This really isn't a big deal. They should treat all the Olympic participants fairly. Not testing the chess players would be discriminating against the other participants in my physical events.
Yes I've seen a "non-x86 UNIX box" or two in my day. We have RS/6k's here as well as some x86 Linux boxes. I also have an Ultra30 sitting next to me in my office that isn't being used at the moment. I have PPC Linux machines next to me (and a couple at home) as well as a handful of Sparcs at home (Sparc1, 5 IPCs, etc...). I use x86 Linux machines for my contract work. I had an old SGI but I sold it. I've dealt with IRIX.
I think any OS can be an entreprise-level OS in the hands of the right person (even M$ Windows and OS/2). A former co-worker of mine could make an NT server scream. It had uptimes of a year or more. Very stable, very reliable---in his hands. We had a similar box for in-house purposes. Almost the same hardware. It went up and down like a damned yo-yo----in our hands. A similarly gifted AIX person can do similar things. The average Joe can't though. The average Joe can't make termcaps work right in AIX let along secure the box. I'd love to run PPC Linux on our 6k's. It would really make those boxes scream. Anything is faster than AIX on those boxes.
I would personally love to have the time to get really good Solaris experience. Sure I probably wouldn't use it in the end unless I became the admin of a number of Solaris boxes but still I'd like the experience. I'd like to shadow a good Solaris admin for a couple weeks.
BTW, the original post was 90% humor and 10% sarcasm.
What people simply don't realize is that the exploitation of little kids is all around us. People are just too nieve to realize it. I saw a show on HBO (I believe) 3-4 months back about this little girl that professionally starred in beauty pagents. Her mother grilled her constantly over walking right, talking right, smiling right, sticking out her chest ("strut it like you'll have it in 10 years"), her numerous dance routines and memorized lines, etc... The demand put on that little girl was extreme. I believe the mother home schooled her as well so they could spend more time in training. The mother would pay professional makeup artists to literally make this girl look like a little Barbie Doll. They made this little girl (eight years old I think) look like a miniature whore. It was sickening. The girl made a mistake on stage during a speaking part and started bawling when she got off stage. The mother ripped her for messing up her lines and now her makeup. It was disguisting. The mother was exploting the little girl. Hell I heard Shirley Temple was viewed as crude by many because of her short dresses and scenes with black men (tap dancing and what not). This shit is nothing more than a witchhunt and the media is doing nothing more than fueling the fire. School shootings are the same way. The media make it out to be a disease that is spreading across the nation and getting wirse every day. That's total bullshit. The number of violent incidents on school campus is dropping every year. It's less than half what it was in in the late 70's. The media will never tell you that. Blood and guts sell. Controversy sells. Early in my mother's teaching career she worked at a school in southern Kansas. A girl (known as a slut to everyone) accused the woodshop teacher of something (touching, sexual assault, I don't remember). She had no proof he did it. He had know that he didn't. Her story kept changing every time she was questioned. Never the less he was suspended. There was a big public outcry against him. Blah blah blah. You've heard it all before. Finally he left and went elsewhere. Shortly after that the girl confessed that she made it up because he gave her a bad grade in his class. It didn't matter. If you go to that town today and bring up his name with a parent around the age of say 55 now they'll probably remember his name and go on and on about his sexual misconduct and shit like that. The truth came out. No one listened. He was still run off. Hmm, I'm starting to rant now. Well, let me close with something I've long since believed. The media should be held accountable for everything they speak or write. If they accuse a teacher of sexual misconduct, they should be held legally accountable if that person is found to be innocent. Now that doesn't mean I don't think they can't print something that's not proven to be true. Say for example someone is hauled into court on sexual charges. State that. Don't print something weeks before on how some kid said person X did something to me. Kids say things. Wait until there is an actual fact. Then print it. Someone being hauled into court is a fact. It's not a fact that they did something but it is a fact that there is enough reason to let a jury or judge decide. Also, if that story is put on the front page with a 72 point headline, the retraction should be just as big and on the front page. It shouldn't be hidden back under the Classifides. It should be given just as much importance as the original story was given. Well, enough of my ramblings. We now return you to your regularly scheduled force-fed media hype.
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They already are. They've been on them for a short time now. Not all flights are covered. I saw a good special on it a month or so back. The details are kept very secret. They are trained and armed and ready to deal with just about any incident that comes up. I was talking with someone about this tonight and think that it's a great idea. At least two should be on each flight I think. An infinite number of disguises or gags could be used. Exact procedures need to be in place to deal with each incident (I think that's already been taken care of though). For example, on a 747 with two aisles, the marshal on the aisle with the straight on shoot (not across the plane towards the walls) should take the shots. No warning should be given either. You're wielding a gun or knife, you're a bullet sponge as far as I'm concerned. The other marshal should not make themselves known. They should stay seated and pretend they are a simple passenger. I remember reading about how numerous well-planned jackings have the boss on board or another accomplice sitting as a passenger. They don't make themselves known unless something goes south. If the marshal both made themselves known, they've just identified themselves as the two targets to eliminate to retake the plane. Anyhow, I thought I'd toss that out there. It's already being done. Just not to an extreme extent.
Also, I don't recall any other /. series or stories (3 in all so far) receiving as great as attention as they have today. 3685 comments have been posted so far. I think that's a record.
I disagree with the funny rating. It's not very funny. Honestly I think today would be a good day for the "funny" moderation option to be disabled.
Planes Crash Into World Trade Center
NEW YORK - An aircraft crashed into the upper floors of one of the World Trade Center towers Tuesday morning, and black smoke poured out of two gaping holes, witnesses said. Shortly afterward a second explosion rocked the other tower.
There was no immediate word on injuries or fatalities in the disaster, which happened shortly before 9 a.m.
The plane was coming in low and ... it looked like it hit at a slight angle," said Sean Murtagh, a CNN vice president, the network reported.
Large holes were visible in two sides of the 110-story building, one of landmark twin towers.
There was no immediate word on injuries or fatalities in the twin disasters, which happened shortly before 9 a.m. and then right around 9 a.m.
The towers were struck by bombers in February 1993.
"The plane was coming in low and ... it looked like it hit at a slight angle," said Sean Murtagh, a CNN vice president, the network reported.
Large holes were visible in sides of the 110-story buildings, landmark twin towers.
The tops of the twin towers were obscured by the smoke.
Thousands of pieces of what appeared to be office paper came drifting over Brooklyn, about three miles from the tower, one witness said.
The center bombingon Feb. 26, 1993, killing six people and injured more than 1,000 others.
In 1945, an Army Air Corps B-25, a twin-engine bomber, crashed into the 79th floor of the Empire State Building in dense fog.
Seriously. Starcraft really does make you think. You have to plan your attacks and defenses according to your opponent. Can I send 6 tanks in against 24 marines with stimpaks? It also is a little violent. Not in the sense that most people think of when they picture a violent game, but in the sense that you do kill beings. My $.02.
I drink a lot of Dew, The Juice of the Gods. I suppose that's a bad thing too.
MSAirforce One 2002
I was just getting ready to post about it. I love VT. It's been my default page now since at least '97. It's a great site. I haven't used the Windows side of it since I am a Mac guy (does the nick give it away) so I can't comment on it much. If it's as complete as the Mac site, it's well worth a look. Freshmeat.net will always be my *nix site but VT is my Mac site.
I have Cox Cable in Kansas which gets me RR. It's been ok except for a number of times where Cox had a bad case of router flap upstream of me and I couldn't get anyone at their tech support competent enough to understand the information I was giving. If DSL reached my building, I would have switched after that week of hell. It appears that there is no tier 2 in their tech support line. At the end I was finally pissed enough that I asked about what the procedure was for terminating an account. HE asked who's account. I told him my own. The guy hung up on me. Nice. They also don't have any way for the average Joe Admin to reach any security, abuse, or incident response team. You have to email them, never get a response, and hope they actually get off their asses and do something. The last time I reported 3 HipCrime IPs to them, it took them over two weeks for something to be done and I never heard about a final resolution. From one network professional to another, that is unacceptable. I think it's time for a bitch-list for them.
This is just what that American Pie kid needs.
Another way of identifying spam is looking for keywords and phrases. Each match raises the likelyhood that it's spam. A product has been built for this too, although I forget it's name. Supposed to work fairly well.
I personally use the RSS, DUL, soon the RBL, and a very very long access list of known spammers.
Just block them. They've been in my access list with a REJECT statement for some time now. My access list is just under 1000 lines long, including a few RELAY entries. I don't wait for MAPS to list them in the RBL, RSS, or DUL. I do the research, scan the logs from time to time, and block them myself. Simple.
IIRC from my early Computer Engineering classes, all it takes to damage a circuit is +5 volts or static electricity. It seems like it was something around +10,000 volts of static electricity before we as humans feel it. I think that's right. I'll have to dig out my old books. They showed a demonstration video of a typical engineer in a simple short sleeved button down shirt (plain) and simple tie. He neutralized himself (voltage equalization IIRC). Then someone (also equalized) held the tie at shoulder level just away from the 1st guy's shirt. He let go and let the tie brush against the guy's shirt. They then measured how much static electtricity was generated. It was more than enough to damage a circuit board. Mind you, +5v probably won't toast a board right away but it could easily cause damage that shows up down the road. IIRC correctly of course. It's been a while since I had that class.
I do agree that it may not be the easiest platform to start out on with Linux. It is much easier than Alpha or Sparc though; you've got to give it that. It's not terribly difficult to master. You just have to be Linux-competent enough to be able to compile your own software sometimes. You also have to understand that not everyone programs in a portable way. You also have to understand that PPC development is usually 2nd priority or lower for many developers. Not everyone understands this. Also not all hardware works in PPC Linux variants. That's a pain. Personally I have numerous PPC-based servers (pre-G3 Macs mainly) that run flawlessly with LinuxPPC. Then again I'm also not a newbie. :-) YDL and LPPC have made great strides towards making PPC Linux very user friendly, at least on default installations. They sure beat RedHat to the punch on that one.
I saw a commercial about a Visa card that's smart. It referenced a link to Visa's .
If it's ruled as inadmissible (sp?) then the Gov has no case. Everything they have came from what they got via that tap. If tap == illegal, evidence acquired via tap == inadmissible.
It doesn't indicate that. It doesn't indicate that at all. What is does indicate is that the author is a man that's sick of RMS's shit. It's pretty simple really. He's a man that's been pushed to the limits and isn't going to take it anymore.
This really isn't a big deal. They should treat all the Olympic participants fairly. Not testing the chess players would be discriminating against the other participants in my physical events.
It's not offtopic if I'm answering someone's question. Damn trolls with moderator points to burn.
Keys to the server farm, admin's car, and his or her house.
I think any OS can be an entreprise-level OS in the hands of the right person (even M$ Windows and OS/2). A former co-worker of mine could make an NT server scream. It had uptimes of a year or more. Very stable, very reliable---in his hands. We had a similar box for in-house purposes. Almost the same hardware. It went up and down like a damned yo-yo----in our hands. A similarly gifted AIX person can do similar things. The average Joe can't though. The average Joe can't make termcaps work right in AIX let along secure the box. I'd love to run PPC Linux on our 6k's. It would really make those boxes scream. Anything is faster than AIX on those boxes.
I would personally love to have the time to get really good Solaris experience. Sure I probably wouldn't use it in the end unless I became the admin of a number of Solaris boxes but still I'd like the experience. I'd like to shadow a good Solaris admin for a couple weeks.
BTW, the original post was 90% humor and 10% sarcasm.
Actually it's in use where I work and personally I can't stand the damned thing.
Let's just hope it doesn't run AIX. 'When you don't understand Unix, you probably run AIX.
What people simply don't realize is that the exploitation of little kids is all around us. People are just too nieve to realize it. I saw a show on HBO (I believe) 3-4 months back about this little girl that professionally starred in beauty pagents. Her mother grilled her constantly over walking right, talking right, smiling right, sticking out her chest ("strut it like you'll have it in 10 years"), her numerous dance routines and memorized lines, etc... The demand put on that little girl was extreme. I believe the mother home schooled her as well so they could spend more time in training. The mother would pay professional makeup artists to literally make this girl look like a little Barbie Doll. They made this little girl (eight years old I think) look like a miniature whore. It was sickening. The girl made a mistake on stage during a speaking part and started bawling when she got off stage. The mother ripped her for messing up her lines and now her makeup. It was disguisting. The mother was exploting the little girl. Hell I heard Shirley Temple was viewed as crude by many because of her short dresses and scenes with black men (tap dancing and what not). This shit is nothing more than a witchhunt and the media is doing nothing more than fueling the fire. School shootings are the same way. The media make it out to be a disease that is spreading across the nation and getting wirse every day. That's total bullshit. The number of violent incidents on school campus is dropping every year. It's less than half what it was in in the late 70's. The media will never tell you that. Blood and guts sell. Controversy sells. Early in my mother's teaching career she worked at a school in southern Kansas. A girl (known as a slut to everyone) accused the woodshop teacher of something (touching, sexual assault, I don't remember). She had no proof he did it. He had know that he didn't. Her story kept changing every time she was questioned. Never the less he was suspended. There was a big public outcry against him. Blah blah blah. You've heard it all before. Finally he left and went elsewhere. Shortly after that the girl confessed that she made it up because he gave her a bad grade in his class. It didn't matter. If you go to that town today and bring up his name with a parent around the age of say 55 now they'll probably remember his name and go on and on about his sexual misconduct and shit like that. The truth came out. No one listened. He was still run off. Hmm, I'm starting to rant now. Well, let me close with something I've long since believed. The media should be held accountable for everything they speak or write. If they accuse a teacher of sexual misconduct, they should be held legally accountable if that person is found to be innocent. Now that doesn't mean I don't think they can't print something that's not proven to be true. Say for example someone is hauled into court on sexual charges. State that. Don't print something weeks before on how some kid said person X did something to me. Kids say things. Wait until there is an actual fact. Then print it. Someone being hauled into court is a fact. It's not a fact that they did something but it is a fact that there is enough reason to let a jury or judge decide. Also, if that story is put on the front page with a 72 point headline, the retraction should be just as big and on the front page. It shouldn't be hidden back under the Classifides. It should be given just as much importance as the original story was given. Well, enough of my ramblings. We now return you to your regularly scheduled force-fed media hype.