Granted, every critical command is available from the CLI. This is the default install.
However, all other commands are available from the CLI if you are willing to write some scripting to do it. I have yet to see a job that can not be done with the tools included with the default install if you want to write a script. (Either batch/cmd or wsh)
As for an overpriced remote video/mouse admin over tcp box, they go for $300 and up, they are called Windows systems, they run the terminal (remote desktop) client that is available for Windows 95/98/Me/NT4/2000/XP/2003 and the server is included free for remote admin of Windows 2000/2003.
I was talking more about a default configuration. I've used lynx several times, neat program. I know there are other text browsers out there as well, but lynx is the most well known.
Okay, maybe this can be explained in simple terms, you see, 1970 is over, and people use these things called a mouse to work on this thing called a computer, in this case it's called a server.
And guess what, it makes the server easier to work with, it reduces the learning curve for new admins and lets people do more. It also takes away a lot of crypic command line programs that the average server admin used to have to remember.
And I have news for everyone who wants to revisit the good old days of the CLI:
EVERY CRITICAL COMMAND IS AVAILABLE FROM THE COMMAND LINE.
Yes, you can't browse the web from the CLI, and you might not be able to set your mouse settings, but want to add a user to the server? Yes, you can do that, you can add a web server, start and stop any service and most drivers, add a virtual directory to a virtual web server, sure, you can do that. Want to change your domain policy settings, CLI tool for that too.
The world is moving on, a GUI on a server is a good thing, it reduces headaches in the long run. Yes, I use the CLI a lot, sometimes it's just faster, but the GUI is by far the better interface for day to day admin work. And anyone who says you cant administer a Windows 2000 server from the command line, never bothered to try.
Actually, if I remember correctly, Windows Me and Windows 2000 had the same shell (Windows Explorer). Not similar ones, the same one. Microsoft took the shell team out of the OS team at some point so they wouldn't have two teams working on what was pretty much the same project. It's also why Me had some really strange quirks.
(If anyone wants to do the research on this, feel free)
You're missing the point here, so I'll use an example.
I contract you to write a fully functional online store and invoice system. You write the store to spec, but the invoice system crashes every 20 minutes. Weeks go by and the invoice system doesn't get fixed. All deadlines are past and I can't use the new invoice system, however, the store is already taking orders.
Why should I pay the full amount of the contract? I spent thousands of dollars in time and money migrating to a new system that doesn't work properly and will have to be fixed in-house.
This is, of course, a very simple example.
The store is not broken, but the contract is not complete. Does it justify not paying at all? No. Does it justify the programmer breaking the online store? No.
I have worked on a web project where there are 2 undocumented URL's. The first one will pull up the version info and debugging page and the second will pull up the same info and who the software is registered to.
This is as far as I would go.
The information there is enough to a. debug the software if it goes crazy. and b. sue someone for non-payment. (and c. put a funny comment in for an easter egg)
Worst case, if someone found it, they know who the software is registered to and some information about their browser.
The problem is that many of these apps are networked. If it was a standalone app, it's not a big deal to have a way to override normal processing. When you get into systems with remote access, that's when you are asking for problems.
Reposession is the taking back of physical goods that were never fully owned by you. It's outlined in the loan agreement. When you buy a car with a loan, you do not fully own that car, the bank owns it, and the contract signed agrees to reposession as a method to recover if you default.
If that does not hold true, why would ANYONE pay for ANYTHING? "Yup, you just ship me that nice new PC, I'll send a check tomorrow". Bwa-hahaha. Time to upgrade to a quad Sparc-III, yup yup yup.
That usually ends in Bwa-hahaha... oh, Hello officer.
You are missing the point, the courts are the method of resolution for contract disputes. Self-help is not a legal resolution to a dispute, and will void your clause of no-responoibility for loss.
The client may have a valid reason not to pay. The software may not be written to the specifications outlined in the contract, the software may have bugs, etc, etc... Again, the courts decide the outcome of a dispute, not one of the parties involved.
Microsoft has always gone thru pains to make sure their products ARE backwards compatible. I doubt they will suddenly change their minds, it would outright destroy the home market and seriously hurt the business market.
So, lets see, that copy of Everquest you've been playing for 3 years doesn't work on your new computer, along with your entire software collection.
Good way to get people to upgrade. Hey, upgrade now and lose everything!
I'm amazed people can eat that airline stuff. I think the airsick bags are more for the results of the inflight food.
On another note, try the vegetarian food on Amtrak, its darn good! (The steak and chicken are tied for the best IMHO.) That's what you get when you actually have a full rolling kitchen.
It's not that you are using their resources, it's that they are also using your personal resources as well.
Do you submit a bill to your company for your home bandwidth charges when you check your work email at home or when you connect in remotely on your day off? Even if you charge by the hour, what about your computer costs? Electric? Heat and A/C?
Help or More Info should be the default button for most web install popups. Since few people read the help or read-me's, this may give them a second to think and understand what's on their screen.
Museum Tour is a typical web site running ColdFusion (Macromedia) and IIS 5 (Microsoft). They are also, not developing and distributing browsers to their users.
Okay, software, as most software companies would like us to remember, is licensed, not sold.
Museum Tour does not own Coldfusion, Windows, IIS, Internet Explorer or Netscape. They did not create any software that uses hyperlinks or frames, they licensed it all from a third party.
Since they did not create nor do they own any of the software in question, SBC really doesn't have a case against them.
Wouldn't that make the anti-ms critics responsible for many of the problems with Microsoft? (The same problems which in turn have fueled the anti-ms critics.)
"It was an intelligent article about the true nature of EQ." To me it came off as a crotch grabbing 'member holding' rant on the flaws of EverQuest.
The author may have a point, but it was blown away by the repeated use of the same metaphors and a style of writing equal to a 12 year old having a tantrum.
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Wouldn't that be speeding up, not slowing down?
If it takes you 365 days to get from point a to point b, but now it takes you 364 days, your speed has increased.
(If it takes you 15 mins to walk to the store, but you did it yesterday in 10 mins, you most likely ran)
Granted, every critical command is available from the CLI. This is the default install.
However, all other commands are available from the CLI if you are willing to write some scripting to do it. I have yet to see a job that can not be done with the tools included with the default install if you want to write a script. (Either batch/cmd or wsh)
As for an overpriced remote video/mouse admin over tcp box, they go for $300 and up, they are called Windows systems, they run the terminal (remote desktop) client that is available for Windows 95/98/Me/NT4/2000/XP/2003 and the server is included free for remote admin of Windows 2000/2003.
I was talking more about a default configuration. I've used lynx several times, neat program. I know there are other text browsers out there as well, but lynx is the most well known.
Okay, maybe this can be explained in simple terms, you see, 1970 is over, and people use these things called a mouse to work on this thing called a computer, in this case it's called a server.
And guess what, it makes the server easier to work with, it reduces the learning curve for new admins and lets people do more. It also takes away a lot of crypic command line programs that the average server admin used to have to remember.
And I have news for everyone who wants to revisit the good old days of the CLI:
EVERY CRITICAL COMMAND IS AVAILABLE FROM THE COMMAND LINE.
Yes, you can't browse the web from the CLI, and you might not be able to set your mouse settings, but want to add a user to the server? Yes, you can do that, you can add a web server, start and stop any service and most drivers, add a virtual directory to a virtual web server, sure, you can do that. Want to change your domain policy settings, CLI tool for that too.
The world is moving on, a GUI on a server is a good thing, it reduces headaches in the long run. Yes, I use the CLI a lot, sometimes it's just faster, but the GUI is by far the better interface for day to day admin work. And anyone who says you cant administer a Windows 2000 server from the command line, never bothered to try.
Seriously, some of the medium size companies don't bother with the logo. Intuit comes to mind.
Visit http://www.microsoft.com/windows/catalog to look up your favorite product.
Actually, if I remember correctly, Windows Me and Windows 2000 had the same shell (Windows Explorer). Not similar ones, the same one. Microsoft took the shell team out of the OS team at some point so they wouldn't have two teams working on what was pretty much the same project. It's also why Me had some really strange quirks.
(If anyone wants to do the research on this, feel free)
As soon as a Dodge Viper becomes a shared resource that can be copied while leaving the original intact.
So, when you duplicate that Viper and leave $20 under the door, then you can use the argument.
You're missing the point here, so I'll use an example.
I contract you to write a fully functional online store and invoice system. You write the store to spec, but the invoice system crashes every 20 minutes. Weeks go by and the invoice system doesn't get fixed. All deadlines are past and I can't use the new invoice system, however, the store is already taking orders.
Why should I pay the full amount of the contract? I spent thousands of dollars in time and money migrating to a new system that doesn't work properly and will have to be fixed in-house.
This is, of course, a very simple example.
The store is not broken, but the contract is not complete.
Does it justify not paying at all? No.
Does it justify the programmer breaking the online store? No.
I never said it did not work. I said it may not be written to the proper specs. It may have serious bugs.
Many programs have shortcomings, that doesn't make them useless or worthless.
That should read, the bank/lender has partial ownership.
I have worked on a web project where there are 2 undocumented URL's. The first one will pull up the version info and debugging page and the second will pull up the same info and who the software is registered to.
This is as far as I would go.
The information there is enough to a. debug the software if it goes crazy. and b. sue someone for non-payment. (and c. put a funny comment in for an easter egg)
Worst case, if someone found it, they know who the software is registered to and some information about their browser.
The problem is that many of these apps are networked. If it was a standalone app, it's not a big deal to have a way to override normal processing. When you get into systems with remote access, that's when you are asking for problems.
Reposession is the taking back of physical goods that were never fully owned by you. It's outlined in the loan agreement. When you buy a car with a loan, you do not fully own that car, the bank owns it, and the contract signed agrees to reposession as a method to recover if you default.
That usually ends in Bwa-hahaha... oh, Hello officer.
You are missing the point, the courts are the method of resolution for contract disputes. Self-help is not a legal resolution to a dispute, and will void your clause of no-responoibility for loss.
The client may have a valid reason not to pay. The software may not be written to the specifications outlined in the contract, the software may have bugs, etc, etc... Again, the courts decide the outcome of a dispute, not one of the parties involved.
People have been sucessfully sued for this practice.
If it's not fully outlined in the contract, he could have a really fun time in court.
No, that was the random seed used to encrypt Frontpage connections to the server.
(Kinda funny actually, someone who had to support Netscape 4.x for any length of time must have wrote it.)
However, once the phrase was found out it made it easy to start cracking the encryption. So it was removed and replaced with something else.
FYI: Its 3GB now with a special switch in the boot.ini, but MS wants you to buy the advanced enterprise server to access more RAM.
Microsoft has always gone thru pains to make sure their products ARE backwards compatible. I doubt they will suddenly change their minds, it would outright destroy the home market and seriously hurt the business market.
So, lets see, that copy of Everquest you've been playing for 3 years doesn't work on your new computer, along with your entire software collection.
Good way to get people to upgrade. Hey, upgrade now and lose everything!
I'm amazed people can eat that airline stuff. I think the airsick bags are more for the results of the inflight food.
On another note, try the vegetarian food on Amtrak, its darn good! (The steak and chicken are tied for the best IMHO.) That's what you get when you actually have a full rolling kitchen.
It's not that you are using their resources, it's that they are also using your personal resources as well.
Do you submit a bill to your company for your home bandwidth charges when you check your work email at home or when you connect in remotely on your day off? Even if you charge by the hour, what about your computer costs? Electric? Heat and A/C?
Help or More Info should be the default button for most web install popups. Since few people read the help or read-me's, this may give them a second to think and understand what's on their screen.
Here's a different angle.
Museum Tour is a typical web site running ColdFusion (Macromedia) and IIS 5 (Microsoft). They are also, not developing and distributing browsers to their users.
Okay, software, as most software companies would like us to remember, is licensed, not sold.
Museum Tour does not own Coldfusion, Windows, IIS, Internet Explorer or Netscape. They did not create any software that uses hyperlinks or frames, they licensed it all from a third party.
Since they did not create nor do they own any of the software in question, SBC really doesn't have a case against them.
Wouldn't that make the anti-ms critics responsible for many of the problems with Microsoft? (The same problems which in turn have fueled the anti-ms critics.)
Of course, if they had over 4 paragraphs per page they wouldn't get hit as much.
But then they would lose advertising hits.
"It was an intelligent article about the true nature of EQ."
To me it came off as a crotch grabbing 'member holding' rant on the flaws of EverQuest.
The author may have a point, but it was blown away by the repeated use of the same metaphors and a style of writing equal to a 12 year old having a tantrum.
Sony bad! Beer Good!
Who is to say anything below Tarrytown is even property of the state of NY?
The Hudson river is bordered by two states, New York and New Jersey. Does NJ have a say in this as well?
(And No, I'm from NYC)