In 1998, it wasn't Sametime yet, it was still "VP Buddy" and Lotus had only barely begun absorbing Ubique's work. That was right around the time that AOL launched AIM as a separate product, functional on the broader internet. It was the IM boom!
Interesting. You seem to believe geek is now a culture dependent upon product selection. Is this related to the purchased hipster culture? Do you enjoy the labels you bought? Are you sure they are the right ones? You like forming cliques, and belonging to one when it's gaining popularity, don't you?
Minecraft is sort-of-fun on its own, but the game really blossoms when you do something like run a Bukkit-based server and get a world or two going, get some of the important plugins going, and invite friends into your world. If it weren't for the Bukkit project I would have been done with Minecraft by the time Beta came out.
My greatest hope is that one day someone will bridge the gap between second-life and Minecraft and will create a game that has the flexibility and user-generated content from second-life with the simplicity and procedural block-based terrain of Minecraft. I want more blocks! I want scripted NPCs! I want Minecraft to be a MUCK!
http://bukkit.org/ Bukkit project
http://tumblr.preoccupied.net/ Tumblr for our minecraft server
FSN (File System Navigator), was a real application made by SGI for 3D viewing of file systems. That really is a real gui layer, and you can get a clone of it for linux called FSV at http://fsv.sourceforge.net/
I'm close with you on this. I have believed for a while now that the American Dream is revenge. We love revenge as a society.
Maybe humans love revenge as a species. I don't know, I'm not travelled enough to really speak about other cultures.
But from winning the lotto and quitting your job with a big "fuck you guys" to postal workers going postal, to columbine, to "nuke the entire middle east" and how we treat criminals (we want punishment a lot more than we seem to want rehabilitation), we have a guttural response to everything. We have been hurt, and thus we will seek to hurt. Perhaps we aren't strong enough (money, influence, physical strength, etc) to take our revenge, but some day... some day we'll be the badass who will lay the smack-down.
I'm going to go back to lurking for another year or so now.
I agree, I envision a touch interface desktop to be like a small drafting table. It amuses me that people have a hard time considering this; there are posts and posts above where they only consider the options of either horizontal or vertical, since those are the positions they are currently familiar with.
I can report the precise same effect for Stunt Race FX (motorcycle in that water level). Just relaxed one day and wasn't paying attention, and had some amazingly great runs through the course.
I presume you mean WCPE (theclassicalstation.org). Not debating that they're one of the only stations that doesn't suck. WSHA and WKNC are often pretty good as well, both college stations. All three are going to be affected by this in their already limited pockets as they are all available via streaming webcasts, unless I'm missing an exclusion for classical performances and educator-run stations.
The end result is very beautiful, and I'm seriously considering attempting to duplicate this project, but with a few changes:
use green felt (like from a pool-table)
use symbols for the non-alpha-numeric keys (print screen, num lock, etc)
do something about that cable, it doesn't quite match the look of the rest of the project. Maybe some flexible shielded conduit?
This project reminds me of a case mod featured here a long while back, where the entire inside of the case was covered in chromed panels, and all the wiring was redone with chromed flexible shielding and headphone-style connectors. I can't find that article any more, and all I remember was that it was named after some fictional AI computer.
Er, personal medium copies are part of that fair-use as well.
You're living in a magical fantasy world where dreamtime images trickle down to everyone, and nobody can control what they've created because we're all connected as a culture. Thankfully, that's just a psycho-reactive induced daydream. This device is for purchasing a copy of a filmed production from its distributors and storing and viewing it. Unless your "download from anywhere" bit was all about content made explicitly for free, which I doubt, then you're deliberately infringing copyright, and hoping that since you personally feel we're a giant hive mind it's ok. The rest of your post can be written of as *extremely* full of shit.
Because some people wouldn't mind getting their movies legally. You realize you've stepped far, far out of fair use, right? If you want to rip your own movies, fine, but that's not at all what you just suggested. Apple is at the head of that "updated business and distribution model" that everyone has been harping on about for a while now.
The Virtual Places protocol used in Sametime was developed by the same people who wrote AOL's initial IM client. The company was named Ubique, and were later bought by IBM/Lotus (there's more history than that, but I'm not going to go into it here). I do not believe that the protocols themselves are identical, as I distinctly recall attempting to connect via TOC to a Sametime server and having it not work at all. Having said that, while I am intimately familiar with the Virtual Places protocol, I have acquainted myself with neither the older TOC protocol, nor the newer Oscar.
One thing Sametime is doing (or can be configured to do on a per-deployment basis) is providing a gateway to other servers/services via either XMPP or SIP. This works in much the same way that it previously allowed two separate Sametime deployments to interconnect previously. But this is actually part of the server infrastructure, and doesn't change the protocol that is spoken between a Sametime Connect client and the Sametime server.
As to why I care at all, I wrote the Meanwhile library, which is used by Gaim and Adium and Kopete and Miranda to provide Sametime connectivity.
DISCLAIMER: the history of Ubique and AOL, Lotus, and IBM is all stuff I dredged from the Internet, and may not necessarily be correct. I'm fairly sure it is, but I wasn't there, and I haven't directly spoken to anyone involved in any of the mergers
First, regarding "I thought I made it clear, embedding someone's content is bad," you are not the designator of judgment for all mankind, so do not attempt to take the tone that you are. You do not lead, and as your further statements indicate, you are unfit to do so.
Secondly, the word "embed" is technically incorrect in this case, as the content from the media is never embedded, mixed, or reused. Nor is it duplicated or redistributed. It is linked to. That is to say, its original location is publicized. Almost every blog is based on this principle, of finding something and republishing its location, and while some instances of it may seem unscrupulous it does not rate at the level of, say, plagiarism or even real copyright infringement.
Regarding "burglary," If you're going to attempt to apply physical metaphors to logical constructs at least attempt to make a metaphor that matches better to the subject matter. Burglary is so far out of scope that it makes you seem either incompetent or insane. You may also need to one day come to understand that metaphors are meaningless except as the very beginnings of a rudimentary explanation into a given topic. A metaphor can never solidly communicate identical relationships, except in a tautology. Basing moral (or worse, legal) decisions off of a metaphor means that you've applied judgment to a topic you do not understand, and hence your decision will be flawed.
You're also inexcusably naive re: "deserve the revenue," and "Just because they made a mistake." There is no such thing as "deserving revenue," you either take action to earn and receive it, or you do not. Income is not karma. And yes, you can profit from something someone else paid for. There's no selfish exclusivity to causality. Any action that another takes that has side effects can in turn be utilized for another's gain. They made some videos publicly available, so someone else linked to those videos too. Could it have been done more politely? Heck yes. Does that mean that it's a legal matter? Heck no.
You, and many like you, cannot get past the fact that even though a situation is unpalatable, it does not mean that it is (or needs to be) illegal. Not every disagreement is a case to bring before a judge. The legal system is not a giant father figure meant to sweep in and magically whisk troubles away. The content host did not perform diligence to protect his content, and in fact had made it readily available to any machine on the internet that might request it. When this went to court and the defendant made a miserable attempt at defending himself, he created a precedent that any deep linking can be regarded as illegal.
First off, yes, that is how the internet (or web, specficially) was designed to work. A hypertext document referring to additional content as separate resources. They didn't magically work around anything to have this happen, they linked to a publicly accessible resource. The article explicitly states that the material was linked-to, and not copied or redistributed.
You seem to be saying that since you disagree with how they used the content on a moral basis, that it should be illegal for them to do so; the "I don't like it, so it should be illegal" line of thought. This is dangerous, and I hope that in retrospect you'll realize why.
What actually would have been appropriate would have been for the objecting party to take the technical steps necessary to prohibit the undesired embedding (requiring a session for example, or checking HTTP referrer, or any number of other methods readily available to them). Instead they continued to make the information available openly, and pushed the burden and responsibility of securing their content onto the courts.
I do not believe that the person who was performing the deep linking should probably have been doing it from a moral standpoint, and should instead have linked to the content owner's pages. I also do not believe that, like an idiot, the defendant should have chosen to represent themselves in the matter. But both parties have behaved irresponsibly in this.
Please don't let the law be used as a crutch for the lazy, opting to have a governing voice dictate simple matters from on high. This could have been resolved between the parties either amicably (which it seems was attempted at least), or via a number of fairly trivial technical means (which the article indicates did not occur).
And this [functions as objects] is one of the nicest features of the language (along with lexical scoping and complete closures)
I'm surprised that none of the +3 comments make any mention of how close JavaScript is to Scheme (or any Lisp 2, I suppose) with the features you've noted.
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In 1998, it wasn't Sametime yet, it was still "VP Buddy" and Lotus had only barely begun absorbing Ubique's work. That was right around the time that AOL launched AIM as a separate product, functional on the broader internet. It was the IM boom!
Interesting. You seem to believe geek is now a culture dependent upon product selection. Is this related to the purchased hipster culture? Do you enjoy the labels you bought? Are you sure they are the right ones? You like forming cliques, and belonging to one when it's gaining popularity, don't you?
Minecraft is sort-of-fun on its own, but the game really blossoms when you do something like run a Bukkit-based server and get a world or two going, get some of the important plugins going, and invite friends into your world. If it weren't for the Bukkit project I would have been done with Minecraft by the time Beta came out.
My greatest hope is that one day someone will bridge the gap between second-life and Minecraft and will create a game that has the flexibility and user-generated content from second-life with the simplicity and procedural block-based terrain of Minecraft. I want more blocks! I want scripted NPCs! I want Minecraft to be a MUCK!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fsn
FSN (File System Navigator), was a real application made by SGI for 3D viewing of file systems. That really is a real gui layer, and you can get a clone of it for linux called FSV at http://fsv.sourceforge.net/
This has nothing to do with net neutrality. Customers can already (typically) purchase different bandwidth tiers from their ISP depending on needs.
I'm close with you on this. I have believed for a while now that the American Dream is revenge. We love revenge as a society.
Maybe humans love revenge as a species. I don't know, I'm not travelled enough to really speak about other cultures.
But from winning the lotto and quitting your job with a big "fuck you guys" to postal workers going postal, to columbine, to "nuke the entire middle east" and how we treat criminals (we want punishment a lot more than we seem to want rehabilitation), we have a guttural response to everything. We have been hurt, and thus we will seek to hurt. Perhaps we aren't strong enough (money, influence, physical strength, etc) to take our revenge, but some day... some day we'll be the badass who will lay the smack-down.
I'm going to go back to lurking for another year or so now.
Yogscast covered it pretty darn well on their youtube channel.
http://www.youtube.com/user/BlueXephos#p/c/561514793F6CB99F/0/aF7vrQ04_q4
Lots of play time and commentary, showing just how amazingly boring this game is. Also: cutscene. Cutscene. CUTSCENE.
I agree, I envision a touch interface desktop to be like a small drafting table. It amuses me that people have a hard time considering this; there are posts and posts above where they only consider the options of either horizontal or vertical, since those are the positions they are currently familiar with.
I can report the precise same effect for Stunt Race FX (motorcycle in that water level). Just relaxed one day and wasn't paying attention, and had some amazingly great runs through the course.
Replying to undo an accidental "Redundant" mod. It's a shame that those dropdowns take action to moderate immediately
I'd sure as hell play it
sounds like what Terence McKenna said in Alien Dreamtime
This reminds me of the invention of Bliss in More. Look at your bleak world through Bliss, and everything is bright and joyful.
I presume you mean WCPE (theclassicalstation.org). Not debating that they're one of the only stations that doesn't suck. WSHA and WKNC are often pretty good as well, both college stations. All three are going to be affected by this in their already limited pockets as they are all available via streaming webcasts, unless I'm missing an exclusion for classical performances and educator-run stations.
You've made up a bunch of shit in your head again, and are responding to it as though it actually happened. Your entire post is a non-sequitor.
thank you very very much for posting that. I'd never have remembered the name otherwise.
The end result is very beautiful, and I'm seriously considering attempting to duplicate this project, but with a few changes:
This project reminds me of a case mod featured here a long while back, where the entire inside of the case was covered in chromed panels, and all the wiring was redone with chromed flexible shielding and headphone-style connectors. I can't find that article any more, and all I remember was that it was named after some fictional AI computer.
Er, personal medium copies are part of that fair-use as well.
You're living in a magical fantasy world where dreamtime images trickle down to everyone, and nobody can control what they've created because we're all connected as a culture. Thankfully, that's just a psycho-reactive induced daydream. This device is for purchasing a copy of a filmed production from its distributors and storing and viewing it. Unless your "download from anywhere" bit was all about content made explicitly for free, which I doubt, then you're deliberately infringing copyright, and hoping that since you personally feel we're a giant hive mind it's ok. The rest of your post can be written of as *extremely* full of shit.
Because some people wouldn't mind getting their movies legally. You realize you've stepped far, far out of fair use, right? If you want to rip your own movies, fine, but that's not at all what you just suggested. Apple is at the head of that "updated business and distribution model" that everyone has been harping on about for a while now.
Just guessing... Raleigh, NC?
The Virtual Places protocol used in Sametime was developed by the same people who wrote AOL's initial IM client. The company was named Ubique, and were later bought by IBM/Lotus (there's more history than that, but I'm not going to go into it here). I do not believe that the protocols themselves are identical, as I distinctly recall attempting to connect via TOC to a Sametime server and having it not work at all. Having said that, while I am intimately familiar with the Virtual Places protocol, I have acquainted myself with neither the older TOC protocol, nor the newer Oscar.
One thing Sametime is doing (or can be configured to do on a per-deployment basis) is providing a gateway to other servers/services via either XMPP or SIP. This works in much the same way that it previously allowed two separate Sametime deployments to interconnect previously. But this is actually part of the server infrastructure, and doesn't change the protocol that is spoken between a Sametime Connect client and the Sametime server.
As to why I care at all, I wrote the Meanwhile library, which is used by Gaim and Adium and Kopete and Miranda to provide Sametime connectivity.
DISCLAIMER: the history of Ubique and AOL, Lotus, and IBM is all stuff I dredged from the Internet, and may not necessarily be correct. I'm fairly sure it is, but I wasn't there, and I haven't directly spoken to anyone involved in any of the mergers
The Sametime protocol is not at all like XMPP (Jabber).
First, regarding "I thought I made it clear, embedding someone's content is bad," you are not the designator of judgment for all mankind, so do not attempt to take the tone that you are. You do not lead, and as your further statements indicate, you are unfit to do so.
Secondly, the word "embed" is technically incorrect in this case, as the content from the media is never embedded, mixed, or reused. Nor is it duplicated or redistributed. It is linked to. That is to say, its original location is publicized. Almost every blog is based on this principle, of finding something and republishing its location, and while some instances of it may seem unscrupulous it does not rate at the level of, say, plagiarism or even real copyright infringement.
Regarding "burglary," If you're going to attempt to apply physical metaphors to logical constructs at least attempt to make a metaphor that matches better to the subject matter. Burglary is so far out of scope that it makes you seem either incompetent or insane. You may also need to one day come to understand that metaphors are meaningless except as the very beginnings of a rudimentary explanation into a given topic. A metaphor can never solidly communicate identical relationships, except in a tautology. Basing moral (or worse, legal) decisions off of a metaphor means that you've applied judgment to a topic you do not understand, and hence your decision will be flawed.
You're also inexcusably naive re: "deserve the revenue," and "Just because they made a mistake." There is no such thing as "deserving revenue," you either take action to earn and receive it, or you do not. Income is not karma. And yes, you can profit from something someone else paid for. There's no selfish exclusivity to causality. Any action that another takes that has side effects can in turn be utilized for another's gain. They made some videos publicly available, so someone else linked to those videos too. Could it have been done more politely? Heck yes. Does that mean that it's a legal matter? Heck no.
You, and many like you, cannot get past the fact that even though a situation is unpalatable, it does not mean that it is (or needs to be) illegal. Not every disagreement is a case to bring before a judge. The legal system is not a giant father figure meant to sweep in and magically whisk troubles away. The content host did not perform diligence to protect his content, and in fact had made it readily available to any machine on the internet that might request it. When this went to court and the defendant made a miserable attempt at defending himself, he created a precedent that any deep linking can be regarded as illegal.
First off, yes, that is how the internet (or web, specficially) was designed to work. A hypertext document referring to additional content as separate resources. They didn't magically work around anything to have this happen, they linked to a publicly accessible resource. The article explicitly states that the material was linked-to, and not copied or redistributed.
You seem to be saying that since you disagree with how they used the content on a moral basis, that it should be illegal for them to do so; the "I don't like it, so it should be illegal" line of thought. This is dangerous, and I hope that in retrospect you'll realize why.
What actually would have been appropriate would have been for the objecting party to take the technical steps necessary to prohibit the undesired embedding (requiring a session for example, or checking HTTP referrer, or any number of other methods readily available to them). Instead they continued to make the information available openly, and pushed the burden and responsibility of securing their content onto the courts.
I do not believe that the person who was performing the deep linking should probably have been doing it from a moral standpoint, and should instead have linked to the content owner's pages. I also do not believe that, like an idiot, the defendant should have chosen to represent themselves in the matter. But both parties have behaved irresponsibly in this.
Please don't let the law be used as a crutch for the lazy, opting to have a governing voice dictate simple matters from on high. This could have been resolved between the parties either amicably (which it seems was attempted at least), or via a number of fairly trivial technical means (which the article indicates did not occur).
I'm surprised that none of the +3 comments make any mention of how close JavaScript is to Scheme (or any Lisp 2, I suppose) with the features you've noted.