This discussion is ininformative because: A. It's not particularly userfull speaking of 'the internet' when obviously the choice to use banners or not to finance a site lays solely with each webmaster. B. The internet has not, as the anti-ad guy implies, been invented by marketeers, nor is it run by marketeers. Moreover, it will most certainly not fold if ad's are banned. Everyone who's been on the net more than say 7 years will remember the discussions when the first commercial sites began popping up ( no pun intended) on the in those days university-orientated web.
But hell, the guys obviously a bitter profiteer, so who cares. Also, he's gonna lose the technological war round blocking ads for sure.
As much as I believe persons exists that fit into your broad description, I don't think the majority of people are like this. That you are intelligent does not mean everyone else is dumb.
I don't think we slashdot readers can say much about the quality of customer service for a simple reason: the average slashdot reader probably has a larger understanding of computers than the average customer service employee. Point in case: I mailed compaq a few weeks ago, after I installed SuSE 8.0, because my computer was freezing, and the caps and scroll lock lights were blinking when this happened. I hoped the people at compaq could tell me if this was a diagnostic code. The support was pretty good; I got a response to my email in less than 15 minutes. I find that excellent. However, the poor guy at the support centre couldn't get a grip on what I was saying, because he consequently underestimated my knowledge of computers. His first response was to make me use the quick restore cd's, which would erase my hard disk and repartition it and reinstall the win98 se that originally came with the computer. My point is that if you're a professional yourself, your either better than the support guy or the support guy is not going to take you serious enough. Either way you won't be helped properly. That's why slashdot readers can't really have a representative opinion on help desks; help desks are aimed at nitwits (as far as their computer use goes anyhow).
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I guess there should be a distinction made between american culture and american "culture" as used by michael. Yes, you americans have a great culture; excellent writers, great artists and original musicians. Too bad that the stuff that actually gets exported the most is "culture": coke, disney and the worst of hollywood. I've been reading some of the comments and all I have to say is this: don't short change yourself or your culture, be aware of the things that have real value and give these to the world.
This article only confirms what any well thinking person should have concluded already: these guys are just a couple of profiteers who'll happily irritate people to make large amounts of money to satisfy their material cravings, not to mention the costs they incur on ISP's and others who keep up the internet with the thought of bringing good to the people against a reasonable profit. Wake up: these people will always exists, there's no ignoring them. They will only stop spamming if the economics are not profitable anymore, or it's downright outlawed. Please say 'no' to their unbridled capitalist philosophy and 'yes' to be considerate to others (and yes, this includes not terrorising the spammers by infringing their personal rights, no matter how mad you are about the mess they send you).
Well, I can give you about 10 different ways to restrict access to a site, and hell, if I had to present really important information on limited bandwidth, I'd be sure to allow only access to those people I could confirm really needed the info. So who's responsible here?
I have the opposite experience, having had email accounts for about 10 years and hardly ever receiving anything, till I opened a hotmail account. I just checked it and had about 200 spams, gathered in maybe two weeks. I never use the account for anything else, so I'm not bothered, but I like your way of dealing with spammers very much and maybe I'll indulge if I'm in a bad mood =)
They decided they couldn't use CmdrTaco's basement, cuz they'd have to move the used-geek storage facility to a less secure site, and it was decided that misuse of used geeks posed a larger threat than the construction of nuclear bombs from nuclear waste.
Dude, everything you say here just strenghtens their point, and I think it's pretty arrogant of you to assume they haven't taken into account your objections to their method. They calculate in the one resources that doesn't replenish itself and is constant: land area. Pretty smart huh? And until we find a reasonable way to colonize planets, this will be a constant.
Listen, the question if the world is going to go bust in 2050 or not is not very important. That's the future. The important thing now is to treat the earth as the valuable thing it is; the most valuable on earth for each human isn't on earth, it's the earth itself. If you had this really nice new computer, and you knew you could overclock it to make it even nicer, although that overclocking would reduce the lifetime of the computer so much that you wouldn't have the money to buy a new one before this one runs out, would you do it? I know I wouldn't, and I think the same thing goes for the earth, and that all we westerner should be very aware that we should be the leaders in reducing pollution, because in the coming years the pollution from developing countries will increase manifold, and they don't have the money nor the interest yet to do something about it. Reduce your energy and material consumption!
"As I recall, the Internet was basically unusable until DNS got fixed up again."
Eh, sonny? What's this DNS you're talking about? Only sissies use domain-names, real die-hards use IP-adresses. Now, lets see, what was that address for google again...
We just had a similar problem here in Europe where KPNQwest folded about a month ago. I don't know the exact figures, but they handled I think close to 40% of north-european internet traffic in their peak times, as well as a large amount of southern european traffic and of course one of the main links to the american continent. Their networks are now going down one by one due to lack of money for paying electricity and employees, but I must say that apart from a few small hitches, I noticed almost nothing. As I work daily on servers all over the world using SSH-links, I would've noticed if mayor shortages of bandwidth would have occured. However, we seem to have such an excess of bandwidth that even the failing of a large section of the network doesn't actually seem to be a big problem. I remember the times that I could actually notice America waking up by getting time-outs on American sites...
Let's all let our money go where our heart is, and make it pay for them to do the linux release. It's the only way we're gonna get more l33t gamez for our boxem. =)
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... my brains would probably just produce a heap of white noise, as I can't make up my mind.
... that I get prompted by mozilla before I accept cookies.
You forgot "all of the above".
This discussion is ininformative because:
A. It's not particularly userfull speaking of 'the internet' when obviously the choice to use banners or not to finance a site lays solely with each webmaster.
B. The internet has not, as the anti-ad guy implies, been invented by marketeers, nor is it run by marketeers. Moreover, it will most certainly not fold if ad's are banned. Everyone who's been on the net more than say 7 years will remember the discussions when the first commercial sites began popping up ( no pun intended) on the in those days university-orientated web.
But hell, the guys obviously a bitter profiteer, so who cares. Also, he's gonna lose the technological war round blocking ads for sure.
As much as I believe persons exists that fit into your broad description, I don't think the majority of people are like this. That you are intelligent does not mean everyone else is dumb.
I don't think we slashdot readers can say much about the quality of customer service for a simple reason: the average slashdot reader probably has a larger understanding of computers than the average customer service employee.
Point in case: I mailed compaq a few weeks ago, after I installed SuSE 8.0, because my computer was freezing, and the caps and scroll lock lights were blinking when this happened. I hoped the people at compaq could tell me if this was a diagnostic code.
The support was pretty good; I got a response to my email in less than 15 minutes. I find that excellent. However, the poor guy at the support centre couldn't get a grip on what I was saying, because he consequently underestimated my knowledge of computers. His first response was to make me use the quick restore cd's, which would erase my hard disk and repartition it and reinstall the win98 se that originally came with the computer.
My point is that if you're a professional yourself, your either better than the support guy or the support guy is not going to take you serious enough. Either way you won't be helped properly. That's why slashdot readers can't really have a representative opinion on help desks; help desks are aimed at nitwits (as far as their computer use goes anyhow).
I guess there should be a distinction made between american culture and american "culture" as used by michael. Yes, you americans have a great culture; excellent writers, great artists and original musicians. Too bad that the stuff that actually gets exported the most is "culture": coke, disney and the worst of hollywood.
I've been reading some of the comments and all I have to say is this: don't short change yourself or your culture, be aware of the things that have real value and give these to the world.
This article only confirms what any well thinking person should have concluded already: these guys are just a couple of profiteers who'll happily irritate people to make large amounts of money to satisfy their material cravings, not to mention the costs they incur on ISP's and others who keep up the internet with the thought of bringing good to the people against a reasonable profit.
Wake up: these people will always exists, there's no ignoring them. They will only stop spamming if the economics are not profitable anymore, or it's downright outlawed. Please say 'no' to their unbridled capitalist philosophy and 'yes' to be considerate to others (and yes, this includes not terrorising the spammers by infringing their personal rights, no matter how mad you are about the mess they send you).
Well, I can give you about 10 different ways to restrict access to a site, and hell, if I had to present really important information on limited bandwidth, I'd be sure to allow only access to those people I could confirm really needed the info. So who's responsible here?
Well, maybe they only need laws to invade allied countries like the Netherlands.
Yeah, and a law permitting the US armed forces to invade Australia to free captured media company execs.
But it has some serious personality problems. Luckily, I'm not the only one who noticed:
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[PATCH] PATCH: personality clashes
I have the opposite experience, having had email accounts for about 10 years and hardly ever receiving anything, till I opened a hotmail account. I just checked it and had about 200 spams, gathered in maybe two weeks. I never use the account for anything else, so I'm not bothered, but I like your way of dealing with spammers very much and maybe I'll indulge if I'm in a bad mood =)
All hotmail users complaining about spam will be executed summarily and on the spot. Non-hotmail emailers, proceed commenting.
The site is slashdotted, so here's a link to the google cachie.
They decided they couldn't use CmdrTaco's basement, cuz they'd have to move the used-geek storage facility to a less secure site, and it was decided that misuse of used geeks posed a larger threat than the construction of nuclear bombs from nuclear waste.
Dude, everything you say here just strenghtens their point, and I think it's pretty arrogant of you to assume they haven't taken into account your objections to their method. They calculate in the one resources that doesn't replenish itself and is constant: land area. Pretty smart huh?
And until we find a reasonable way to colonize planets, this will be a constant.
Listen, the question if the world is going to go bust in 2050 or not is not very important. That's the future. The important thing now is to treat the earth as the valuable thing it is; the most valuable on earth for each human isn't on earth, it's the earth itself.
If you had this really nice new computer, and you knew you could overclock it to make it even nicer, although that overclocking would reduce the lifetime of the computer so much that you wouldn't have the money to buy a new one before this one runs out, would you do it?
I know I wouldn't, and I think the same thing goes for the earth, and that all we westerner should be very aware that we should be the leaders in reducing pollution, because in the coming years the pollution from developing countries will increase manifold, and they don't have the money nor the interest yet to do something about it. Reduce your energy and material consumption!
"As I recall, the Internet was basically unusable until DNS got fixed up again."
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Eh, sonny? What's this DNS you're talking about? Only sissies use domain-names, real die-hards use IP-adresses. Now, lets see, what was that address for google again
We just had a similar problem here in Europe where KPNQwest folded about a month ago. I don't know the exact figures, but they handled I think close to 40% of north-european internet traffic in their peak times, as well as a large amount of southern european traffic and of course one of the main links to the american continent. Their networks are now going down one by one due to lack of money for paying electricity and employees, but I must say that apart from a few small hitches, I noticed almost nothing. As I work daily on servers all over the world using SSH-links, I would've noticed if mayor shortages of bandwidth would have occured. However, we seem to have such an excess of bandwidth that even the failing of a large section of the network doesn't actually seem to be a big problem. I remember the times that I could actually notice America waking up by getting time-outs on American sites ...
Let's all let our money go where our heart is, and make it pay for them to do the linux release. It's the only way we're gonna get more l33t gamez for our boxem. =)
Cool, at what level do I get to roll a D30 for my attack rolls?
You might consider upping the max execution time in /etc/php.ini
Check these guys, www.fathammer.com, they produce an engine for 3d-gaming on cellphones and pda's.
Yeah, I agree. Abiword should be able to import Serious Sam II save-files!