Prior to woody's release, RedHat is perhaps a better choice. Even the older 7.1 version is more modern than potato, and not a moving target like woody/sid. Bosses generally don't like moving targets.
Unfortunately, being an idiot 5 years ago can bite you today. I know from personal experience. I just recently paid off a very large credit card debt and I've been saving, but my car is getting cranky and if I lost my job today, I'd be in trouble.
The problem is, many people HAVE to run testing because stable is too old. It's not a serious issue on my home PC, but I can imagine trying to get my boss to switch to Debian and telling him he has to use a "testing" distro because we need a web browser newer than mozilla M18. Or, worse, having to go to "unstable" because some security update didn't get into testing. If, in fact woody+1 is released faster, that will help a lot. Stable would still be old, but much more useable.
I don't sign my card because I WANT them to check my ID! However they almost never do. And it has nothing to do with how busy they are, I could be their only customer and they still don't check.
Debian 2.2 (potato) still uses kernel 2.2. Debian 3.0 (woody) installs 2.2 by default, but I think everything is set up to use the 2.4 kernel. However, woody will NOT include KDE3. Which means it, like potato, will be obsolete the day it's released.
The critical difference is that Ford can't use its monopoly power to put the companies that sell parts for GM out of business. I don't really care what crap MS bundles with their software. I DO care about them pressuring Dell/Gateway into removing Netscape as an option.
"Hmm... who has an idea of what it would be like if the Y2K bug had been kept mum? "
Well, I know how many Y2K errors I found during 1999. Fixing them gradually over the whole year was easy, but if they had all hit in 1/1/00, it would have been a mess. It probably wouldn't have brought us down, but I wouldn't have had any free time for quite a while.
At least not where I live. For a person to recycle their PC's THERE MUST BE A PLACE TO RECYCLE!!!! I gather from the comments that the idea is to use the tax to finance such centers. Fine, if they make them easy to get to and use. Based on past history, they won't! People will grumble about the extra cost, much like the SUV drivers grumble about gas prices, but they'll find it's more trouble than it's worth to recycle.
The answer is to make recyling paletable and easy, never _force_. _Force_ is exactly why you don't get voted in and is exactly why you never get into government in the first place. (ever seen someone choose to vote for someone by choice in a democracy?:-)
YES!!! One thing bothering me as that AFAIK there ARE no recycling places to take my old PC's. If there were, I'd take mine there. Sure, I could set mine out on the curb and it would be gone in minutes, but then certain people would know that I had something newer than what was out on the curb. Not good in my neck of the woods.
Obviously, Windows is not ready for your neophyte computer user! Linux would be no different in that regard. Admittedly, there are fewer support resources for Linux. The average person knows a dozen people who could help with Doze, and maybe one who could help with RedHat. But that's strictly a popularity issue. Linux is not any harder to *use* than Windows.
Suppose I want to donate my old PC. I want to wipe the HD because it's full of my personal info. But my Win98 CD's lost (its under one of these piles). But I don't want to force a "Naked PC" on them, so I install RedHat 7.2. Is that legal?
I don't understand the problem. Doesn't Whitehouse.com talk about Clinton?
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Perhaps one reason Y2K fizzled was BECAUSE of the attention. I found plenty of Y2K bugs in 1999. None of them were most important than the regular bugs I fixed all the time, but if they had all hit 1/1/19100, it would have been a real PITA.
Sounds familiar. In one group project, I wound up doing most of the work cause 3 of the others screwed around. Luckily, for the second project, I got the worst offender kicked out of our group. His replacement, being a good people person, took over my role as group leader and got the other 2 people to shape up, and we worked much better that time.
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Prior to woody's release, RedHat is perhaps a better choice. Even the older 7.1 version is more modern than potato, and not a moving target like woody/sid. Bosses generally don't like moving targets.
Unfortunately, being an idiot 5 years ago can bite you today. I know from personal experience. I just recently paid off a very large credit card debt and I've been saving, but my car is getting cranky and if I lost my job today, I'd be in trouble.
The problem is, many people HAVE to run testing because stable is too old. It's not a serious issue on my home PC, but I can imagine trying to get my boss to switch to Debian and telling him he has to use a "testing" distro because we need a web browser newer than mozilla M18. Or, worse, having to go to "unstable" because some security update didn't get into testing. If, in fact woody+1 is released faster, that will help a lot. Stable would still be old, but much more useable.
Woody will not include KDE 3. I don't mind them not having KDE 3 in May 2002, but that means they won't have KDE 3 in May 2003 either!
That's because KDE doesn't use its monopoly to stop RedHat from including Gnome.
I don't sign my card because I WANT them to check my ID! However they almost never do. And it has nothing to do with how busy they are, I could be their only customer and they still don't check.
Everybody knows M$ had a monopoly on POS systems.
Debian 2.2 (potato) still uses kernel 2.2. Debian 3.0 (woody) installs 2.2 by default, but I think everything is set up to use the 2.4 kernel. However, woody will NOT include KDE3. Which means it, like potato, will be obsolete the day it's released.
The critical difference is that Ford can't use its monopoly power to put the companies that sell parts for GM out of business. I don't really care what crap MS bundles with their software. I DO care about them pressuring Dell/Gateway into removing Netscape as an option.
I don't know the minimum requirments for the latest versions of Slackware, but the older versions would work on almost anything.
"Hmm... who has an idea of what it would be like if the Y2K bug had been kept mum? "
Well, I know how many Y2K errors I found during 1999. Fixing them gradually over the whole year was easy, but if they had all hit in 1/1/00, it would have been a mess. It probably wouldn't have brought us down, but I wouldn't have had any free time for quite a while.
WFT are you talking about? I don't see teh problem!
Actually, I believe 2.2.19 also has security flaws. 2.2.20 is the "latest and greatest".
2.4 has been doing better since Linus passed it to Marcello. 2.4.17 & 18 seem stable enough.
At least not where I live. For a person to recycle their PC's THERE MUST BE A PLACE TO RECYCLE!!!! I gather from the comments that the idea is to use the tax to finance such centers. Fine, if they make them easy to get to and use. Based on past history, they won't! People will grumble about the extra cost, much like the SUV drivers grumble about gas prices, but they'll find it's more trouble than it's worth to recycle.
YES!!! One thing bothering me as that AFAIK there ARE no recycling places to take my old PC's. If there were, I'd take mine there. Sure, I could set mine out on the curb and it would be gone in minutes, but then certain people would know that I had something newer than what was out on the curb. Not good in my neck of the woods.
But, if he did that, we wouldn't be able to bash him for not doing that anymore!
Obviously, Windows is not ready for your neophyte computer user! Linux would be no different in that regard. Admittedly, there are fewer support resources for Linux. The average person knows a dozen people who could help with Doze, and maybe one who could help with RedHat. But that's strictly a popularity issue. Linux is not any harder to *use* than Windows.
Stamped snail mail is okay, but don't handle the envelope after eating powdered doughnuts!
Suppose I want to donate my old PC. I want to wipe the HD because it's full of my personal info. But my Win98 CD's lost (its under one of these piles). But I don't want to force a "Naked PC" on them, so I install RedHat 7.2. Is that legal?
What does FDA approval have to do with safety? Weren't Fen-Fen & Redux FDA approved?
I don't understand the problem. Doesn't Whitehouse.com talk about Clinton?
Perhaps one reason Y2K fizzled was BECAUSE of the attention. I found plenty of Y2K bugs in 1999. None of them were most important than the regular bugs I fixed all the time, but if they had all hit 1/1/19100, it would have been a real PITA.
Um, that dump you were looking at? That wasn't the binary. That was the source!
Sounds familiar. In one group project, I wound up doing most of the work cause 3 of the others screwed around. Luckily, for the second project, I got the worst offender kicked out of our group. His replacement, being a good people person, took over my role as group leader and got the other 2 people to shape up, and we worked much better that time.