I wouldn't be so sure, A few guys where I work did their undergrad work with a guy that ended up getting a job at Blizzard when he graduated, it just so happens that he was kind enough to bless them with a beta of the game. It was REALLY buggy, I guess the inside word is that it has been a nightmare making it and they have been debugging it for almost a year and they still have a long ways to go. I'll be sticking to WCII myself.
The Instructor actually brought that up the first day, he said in the past there has been demand for a PPC version of the class, but since each platform has it's own unique instruction set there would be no overlap and you would just have to learn the language all over again for Intel coding. They mostly go on the demand of the market, (they just switched their main taught language from c/c++ to java) so they pretty much just teach the x86 version now.
I would have to agree with them that there would be alot more demand for someone programming assembly on an Intel box then on a Mac.
I would say what we have done so far is fun though. Any programming can be if you make it.
You also forget the other 95% of the balance sheet. Property plant and equiptment. In the real market (not over inflated tech stocks) Stock prices are based on traditional annual net revenue, their holdings and their debt or cash reserves. If you just base the stock price on potential earnings then you get Enron. Warren Buffet said it best "Maybe this will be a lesson to investors to not buy a stock based solely on potential income but buy it on the holdings.
Microsoft has alot of holdings, they just bought a huge software company where I live called Great Planes that is why their stock is at $50 a share, not because of their cash reserves.
This can't be all bad, AOl-TW was a mistake from the begining, and now they are paying for it.
It's the cycle of buisness, you start out small and efficient, you grow because of it, you get really big if you are lucky then you hire a bunch of people who don't care and you become every other large corporatation. Then you loose focus and decide the only way you can grow anymore is to buy someone out. So you do, then you buy someone else out, and someone else, until you become so big that you lost your focus, everything is way to complex and you either crumble and die off (AOL-TW) or you fix it and move on (AETNA).
That is the beutiful thing about capitolism, if you mess up, someone is always there to exploit it.
I currently work for an ISP with about 3500 customers. There are only 5 of us there, all of us know whats up. It might have something to do with the fact that we only take on average of two calls a night and play Warcraft and watch TV the rest of the night, but anyway.....
I quit working for a company called Sykes last July, there were about 700 of us there. They do outsource tech-support for all sorts of companies, at our site we had a Microsoft support line, Gateway line and Qwest line.
We took something on the order of 14000 calls every day in the two buildings...
Anyway, There were lots of guys there who knew their stuff, they either were just too lazy to quit and get a real job(this was in Bismarck, ND) or they were just waiting to quit or were about to.
There were two kinds of people there. The ones who came in the door knowing a little about computers and when they left they knew alot, or the ones who walked in the door knowing a little about computers and walked out thinking they knew alot about computers but didn't know a damn thing except what Gateway crammed into it... The latter were there for life. The guys who learned how it worked went on to get good jobs(if they got off their duff)
The whole problem with Tech support is that you talk to so many people per day that you just get burned out. A previous poster said it right, you get noticed but they can't do anything about it. You don't get promoted, you can't get paid more, then they switch your boss and you have to start over, after a while you just stop caring. (In 3 years I had 7 bosses) That happened to everyone I personally knew out there, 100+ people. You get sick of other idiot tech's telling someone something completely idiotic and you having to clean up the mess. They never train you on new products, and expect you to be able to work on them.
Tech support is fine in small companies but in the large ones it is terrible. People loose focus and people stop caring. It's quite sad
My college (NDSU) just recieved a MultiMillion dollar grant from the DOD to do research into NanoTechnology. They told us all about it in class. They are going to work on little censors that could be scattered all over a battlefield to relay back things like temperature, motion, etc, they are going to incorporate the ability to detect chemical and biological weapons also.
Plus if you get any publications such as R&D by Cahners, all they talk about is nano technology and it's possibilites.
Technology is technology, it has good and evil. The Manhattan project was one of the worst things to ever happen to us, but it also has given us almost unexuastable power sources, prevented major, world war level conflicts, for the last 60 years and given us further understanding of physics and chemistry. But it has also given the power to kill millions to way too many, just by pushing a button.
But if we started to put more energy into finding ways to get things to the moon cheaper, then that price would probobly fall. We could use the space station as a intermediaty (what it was put up there for)
And once we got this going over there, there would be no reason that we couldn't start to colonize up there, start to mine, and even build bases to launch missions to Mars and beyond.
If Nasa hadn't canceled the x-34 project then we would have a cheap way to get into space from a runway and be back in a few hours to land on a runway. No need for boosters.
As for being the fastest. IBM's Blue Gene [ibm.com] will outstrip this Japanese model in two or three years. That's the downside. It will be two or three years from now. Oh well, it will run at One-Petaflop.
This is what I like, competition. It's good the Japanese are trying to keep up. Competiton fosters innovation and inginuity.
One of my professors was talking about the problems with the IEEE and the DMCA, he is a fellow in the IEEE too, head of the EE department at my college. He was definitely against it.
The fact that he has about 20 gigs of Divx movies on his laptop he brings to class might have something to do with it.
What a ignorant statement. I read that whole article and they didn't say anthing about pc gaming. The only thing about gaming was the x-box.
Pc Gaming is alive and kicking, it's not going anywhere. Why buy a useless console that will be obsolete in a year when you can build a nice computer, and use it for 500 different things, including gaming.
I play games on my pc from the atari, nintendo, and playstation. I would of had to buy 3 consoles just to do that off of a pc and that woudl of cost me more than my comp. What a joke
This just seems like the next step to the eventual end. All communication will come into our homes/buisnesses on one cable, video, voice, and data. Pay one bill and suck up all the bandwith you can afford.
If you think about it there is really no reason to have multiple cables coming into your house.
Maybe we can get it all over the powerlines. Haven't heard of anywhere in the states offering that yet though.
AHH the horror! I have been supporting winmodems for 4 years. My personal favorite is the "Modem Blaster" absolute junk. You would think that they would want people's machines to be faster and have less problems. I guess not.
The problem is, the blame never goes back to the company that manufactured the stuff, it goes to the isp that supports it or the vendor that built the system for them..
Kind of fitting, since alot of the people from North and South Dakota (i'm one of them) that go to college become Engineers. I have heard we have one of the highest per capita Engineering gradutate levels in the country. I'm and EE major and alot of my friends are EE ME or CE majors. I bet the name has absoultely nothing to do with the Dakotas though.
I don't know why pc makers don't follow and ditch legacy. I mean how long has the serial port been around? 15 years?
I have a USB hub at home, that has two serial ports, one parallel port and 4 usb ports on it. I could use it to hook up to a new machine if I need legacy stuff, it only cost 40 bucks too. You can hook that right into a USB 2.0 port and have all your legacy needs taken care of.
I like this mobo having both firewire and usb 2.0 though. Nifty stuff. I have had nothing but good luck with abit. I highly recommend the dual processor VP6, it works great. Add dual p3's to it, about a gig of ram and a strip set and you've got a really friggin fast machine.
Yes, you are right, their service is terrible now.
I just quit working for Gateway after doing tech support for them for 4 YEARS!
When I started there the company was great, we made great products and everyone cared. From 98-2000 we got really big really fast and everyone stopped caring. The new CEO ran the company into the toilet and they outsourced way too much stuff to companies like Sykes, Stream, Tag and Convergence. Now Ted is back in charge, they are dumping the outsourcers and starting to put out quality machines again. Gateway was a great company from inception to about 98. Now they are starting over pretty much and I would give them the thumbs up again. 6 months ago I was on the fence and a year ago I would of told you to buy an IBM or a Dell.
The whole commercial with the cow makes sense. There are some really smart people working in the product development division in South Dakota and they know that this will hurt everyone, including the OEM's if it goes through.
No, an attack is only when you indent to harm the victim. Say you were giving a friend a ride in your car. If you got into a car accident that wasn't your fault and they were hurt, it wouldn't be an attack and it wouldn't be your fault. (kind of a bad example but you get the point)
Any judge with his head screwed on straight would see that no harm was meant and the case would be dismissed.
Just because/. has the following it does doesn't mean that if we overwhelm a companies resourses it is an attack.
ya, over on fark they called it "farked" They post way more links every day and at least 4 or 5 of them shutdown servers.
Anyone remember when grc got hit with a DDOS, you know what he did? Realized there wasn't a damn thing he could do about it and took a walk on the beach. Then waited 4 days until it quit and got his site back up and running.
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I wouldn't be so sure, A few guys where I work did their undergrad work with a guy that ended up getting a job at Blizzard when he graduated, it just so happens that he was kind enough to bless them with a beta of the game. It was REALLY buggy, I guess the inside word is that it has been a nightmare making it and they have been debugging it for almost a year and they still have a long ways to go. I'll be sticking to WCII myself.
The Instructor actually brought that up the first day, he said in the past there has been demand for a PPC version of the class, but since each platform has it's own unique instruction set there would be no overlap and you would just have to learn the language all over again for Intel coding. They mostly go on the demand of the market, (they just switched their main taught language from c/c++ to java) so they pretty much just teach the x86 version now.
I would have to agree with them that there would be alot more demand for someone programming assembly on an Intel box then on a Mac.
I would say what we have done so far is fun though. Any programming can be if you make it.
I figured this would be coming now, I just started my first Assembly class as a CS undergrad, a whole new group of registers to memorise!
You also forget the other 95% of the balance sheet. Property plant and equiptment.
In the real market (not over inflated tech stocks)
Stock prices are based on traditional annual net revenue, their holdings and their debt or cash reserves. If you just base the stock price on potential earnings then you get Enron. Warren Buffet said it best "Maybe this will be a lesson to investors to not buy a stock based solely on potential income but buy it on the holdings.
Microsoft has alot of holdings, they just bought a huge software company where I live called Great Planes that is why their stock is at $50 a share, not because of their cash reserves.
Quarks taste pretty good I've heard..
Warfs and Jadzeeas aren't as good though..
Ya, your kids, your dog, your wife, pretty soon they will be shoving a chip up your nose when you are born.
This can't be all bad, AOl-TW was a mistake from the begining, and now they are paying for it.
It's the cycle of buisness, you start out small and efficient, you grow because of it, you get really big if you are lucky then you hire a bunch of people who don't care and you become every other large corporatation. Then you loose focus and decide the only way you can grow anymore is to buy someone out. So you do, then you buy someone else out, and someone else, until you become so big that you lost your focus, everything is way to complex and you either crumble and die off (AOL-TW) or you fix it and move on (AETNA).
That is the beutiful thing about capitolism, if you mess up, someone is always there to exploit it.
Not necessarily true.
I currently work for an ISP with about 3500 customers. There are only 5 of us there, all of us know whats up. It might have something to do with the fact that we only take on average of two calls a night and play Warcraft and watch TV the rest of the night, but anyway.....
I quit working for a company called Sykes last July, there were about 700 of us there. They do outsource tech-support for all sorts of companies, at our site we had a Microsoft support line, Gateway line and Qwest line.
We took something on the order of 14000 calls every day in the two buildings...
Anyway, There were lots of guys there who knew their stuff, they either were just too lazy to quit and get a real job(this was in Bismarck, ND) or they were just waiting to quit or were about to.
There were two kinds of people there. The ones who came in the door knowing a little about computers and when they left they knew alot, or the ones who walked in the door knowing a little about computers and walked out thinking they knew alot about computers but didn't know a damn thing except what Gateway crammed into it... The latter were there for life. The guys who learned how it worked went on to get good jobs(if they got off their duff)
The whole problem with Tech support is that you talk to so many people per day that you just get burned out. A previous poster said it right, you get noticed but they can't do anything about it. You don't get promoted, you can't get paid more, then they switch your boss and you have to start over, after a while you just stop caring. (In 3 years I had 7 bosses) That happened to everyone I personally knew out there, 100+ people. You get sick of other idiot tech's telling someone something completely idiotic and you having to clean up the mess. They never train you on new products, and expect you to be able to work on them.
Tech support is fine in small companies but in the large ones it is terrible. People loose focus and people stop caring. It's quite sad
My college (NDSU) just recieved a MultiMillion dollar grant from the DOD to do research into NanoTechnology. They told us all about it in class. They are going to work on little censors that could be scattered all over a battlefield to relay back things like temperature, motion, etc, they are going to incorporate the ability to detect chemical and biological weapons also.
Plus if you get any publications such as R&D by Cahners, all they talk about is nano technology and it's possibilites.
Technology is technology, it has good and evil.
The Manhattan project was one of the worst things to ever happen to us, but it also has given us almost unexuastable power sources, prevented major, world war level conflicts, for the last 60 years and given us further understanding of physics and chemistry. But it has also given the power to kill millions to way too many, just by pushing a button.
it's catch 22
Anything from them with the word "Blaster" after it usually is terrible.
If any of you have worked for an ISP you could attest to the quality of the "Modem Blaster"
But if we started to put more energy into finding ways to get things to the moon cheaper, then that price would probobly fall. We could use the space station as a intermediaty (what it was put up there for)
And once we got this going over there, there would be no reason that we couldn't start to colonize up there, start to mine, and even build bases to launch missions to Mars and beyond.
If Nasa hadn't canceled the x-34 project then we would have a cheap way to get into space from a runway and be back in a few hours to land on a runway. No need for boosters.
This is what I like, competition. It's good the Japanese are trying to keep up. Competiton fosters innovation and inginuity.
One of my professors was talking about the problems with the IEEE and the DMCA, he is a fellow in the IEEE too, head of the EE department at my college. He was definitely against it.
The fact that he has about 20 gigs of Divx movies on his laptop he brings to class might have something to do with it.
So much for the internship at the hd plant in Rodchester I was hoping for. That is one of IBM's hd R & D sites.
Isn't this entrapment?
The police trying to get someone to commit a crime and then bust them when they do.
Sounds fishy
What a ignorant statement. I read that whole article and they didn't say anthing about pc gaming. The only thing about gaming was the x-box.
Pc Gaming is alive and kicking, it's not going anywhere. Why buy a useless console that will be obsolete in a year when you can build a nice computer, and use it for 500 different things, including gaming.
I play games on my pc from the atari, nintendo, and playstation. I would of had to buy 3 consoles just to do that off of a pc and that woudl of cost me more than my comp. What a joke
This just seems like the next step to the eventual end. All communication will come into our homes/buisnesses on one cable, video, voice, and data. Pay one bill and suck up all the bandwith you can afford.
If you think about it there is really no reason to have multiple cables coming into your house.
Maybe we can get it all over the powerlines. Haven't heard of anywhere in the states offering that yet though.
AHH the horror! I have been supporting winmodems for 4 years. My personal favorite is the "Modem Blaster" absolute junk. You would think that they would want people's machines to be faster and have less problems. I guess not.
The problem is, the blame never goes back to the company that manufactured the stuff, it goes to the isp that supports it or the vendor that built the system for them..
No, I will be known as the "Buffalo Commons" read the forum today.
Kind of fitting, since alot of the people from North and South Dakota (i'm one of them) that go to college become Engineers. I have heard we have one of the highest per capita Engineering gradutate levels in the country. I'm and EE major and alot of my friends are EE ME or CE majors. I bet the name has absoultely nothing to do with the Dakotas though.
I don't know why pc makers don't follow and ditch legacy. I mean how long has the serial port been around? 15 years?
I have a USB hub at home, that has two serial ports, one parallel port and 4 usb ports on it. I could use it to hook up to a new machine if I need legacy stuff, it only cost 40 bucks too. You can hook that right into a USB 2.0 port and have all your legacy needs taken care of.
I like this mobo having both firewire and usb 2.0 though. Nifty stuff. I have had nothing but good luck with abit. I highly recommend the dual processor VP6, it works great. Add dual p3's to it, about a gig of ram and a strip set and you've got a really friggin fast machine.
Yes, you are right, their service is terrible now.
I just quit working for Gateway after doing tech support for them for 4 YEARS!
When I started there the company was great, we made great products and everyone cared. From 98-2000 we got really big really fast and everyone stopped caring. The new CEO ran the company into the toilet and they outsourced way too much stuff to companies like Sykes, Stream, Tag and Convergence. Now Ted is back in charge, they are dumping the outsourcers and starting to put out quality machines again. Gateway was a great company from inception to about 98. Now they are starting over pretty much and I would give them the thumbs up again. 6 months ago I was on the fence and a year ago I would of told you to buy an IBM or a Dell.
The whole commercial with the cow makes sense. There are some really smart people working in the product development division in South Dakota and they know that this will hurt everyone, including the OEM's if it goes through.
No, an attack is only when you indent to harm the victim. Say you were giving a friend a ride in your car. If you got into a car accident that wasn't your fault and they were hurt, it wouldn't be an attack and it wouldn't be your fault.
/. has the following it does doesn't mean that if we overwhelm a companies resourses it is an attack.
(kind of a bad example but you get the point)
Any judge with his head screwed on straight would see that no harm was meant and the case would be dismissed.
Just because
ya, over on fark they called it "farked"
They post way more links every day and at least 4 or 5 of them shutdown servers.
Anyone remember when grc got hit with a DDOS, you know what he did? Realized there wasn't a damn thing he could do about it and took a walk on the beach. Then waited 4 days until it quit and got his site back up and running.